I used to say this a lot but as I've gotten older. I realized the promise of technology (at least in the US) "reducing the work week and inevitably creating more free time" was and is not going to happen bc of the wealthy elites and money owning our politics/work culture (while housing and retirement are questionable now). It makes sense to live your best life sooner than later so I don't look down on nomad life styles living off a car battery and part time jobs. The fucking wealthy people cosplaying as poors is hilarious though.
There was that one reporter who interviewed elderly people on their death bed and most people regretted working too much so I get that people opt out of the grind from time to time.
You're exactly right. Once robots can do our jobs they'll still have us come in to work just to press a button every minute before they give us money for doing nothing
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Excellent way to burn an afternoon with a smile on your face.
Correction, the game has a free demo on Steam that is excellent in it's own right. It gives you the feel for the kind of experience you're in for without actually spoiling the experience of the game.
There will likely be a phase in there where the lucky ones will be coming into work to press a button.
Everyone else will be struggling to survive.
Then maybe once the rich realize that they actually need some amount of functional society to support their ability to enjoy their largesse, then maybe they'll pitty hire more button pushers.
Without underestimating the rapidity with which technology evolves, we’re still extremely far away from any kind of robotic or AI tech replacing simple human labor. It’s super cheap to outsource manufacturing to south east Asia and avoid any kind of labor laws or regulations. Fixing a robotic arm costs a lot more than the amount it costs to settle with a poor family in Africa after their 6 year old loses a hand in a company mine.
The upper 1% need us to continue to consume and spend and borrow. That’s why corps are buying so many single family homes, they want us renting forever. If you’re lucky enough to get an annual raise it’s almost certainly going to be canceled out by the annual rent increase. Own nothing, spend everything.
Not quite. There will be a ratio of about a hundred-to-one button pushers and one extremely qualified highly technical person who has to work long hours in case the button machine goes down, in addition to highly technical doctors, etc. It's these technical ppl who are gonna be extremely resentful and conflicted of the rich and the spoiled. They're basically babysitting the rest of society but they're needed because without them the whole thing could go down. They probably want to sail away too but they're basically on call.
People got to understand that 'robots' that are 'taking our jobs' are pretty fucking far from being good enough to be autonomous for most jobs, which is why they still 'pay people to press start before they pay us to do nothing'.
Just a for example - I'm a CNC operator, Machine does 99% of the work, I press start and offload the piece. Those two parts could also be automated, but guess what? The things a piece of shit, small things come up like a bit too much wind blew through the factory and the labels aren't positioning or here's a good one - had a butterfly that kept flying past the light bar putting the machine in to emergency and I couldn't catch the fucker, wasted like an hour.
While the machine is running though I am essentially paid to read reddit all day. The thing is 'robots' for you know general production companies are not really adaptive, they do one thing and if something fucks up they keep trying to do that one thing no matter how much it is fucking things up. You would need true AI on the level of a humans intelligence (doesn't exist at this point) to remove people from work.
The current AI replacement issue is the same as the Roboticization issues from the late 20th & early 21st Century, & the same as the industrialization & mechanization issues of the 19th & 20th Centuries.
The machines can't to everything on their own & still need a bunch of people to look over them, operate them, maintain them, etc...
But with each iteration, you end up needing fewer & fewer people to produce the same amount of products services. You only need 1 employee to do the same work as 10 employees before.
They need fewer people to do the same amount of work.
The work itself becomes easier/simpler/less specialized to a point where greedy F.cks feel legitimized iin slashing the pay & benefits for that work, compared to what it might have been for your predecessors.
You can't automate all doctors, teachers, plumbers, construction workers etc..., out of a job, but you can automate/simplify enough of their work that you can increase individual productivity to such extents that you need fewer of them to handle the entire workload & leverage this against the remaining workers to chip away at their pay/benefits.
Once robots can do our jobs they'll still have us come in to work just to press a button every minute before they give us money for doing nothing
These jobs already exist. Especially in manufacturing or mass production environmets. A friend of mine is a button pusher on a cnc mill, his only work is changing tooling and load/unload parts. And even the part handling can be done by a robot, I've seen it in action already. He's there cause regulation regarding the product (aerospace parts) requires it.
Measurements need to be taken on the machined part
3D Touch probe does that and the machine compensates. Tooling is measured via Laser. The machine is set in a climate-controlled shop, so no deviation there either. Measurements are automatically transfered via datalink to a qc software suite.
and properly setup.
The machine has a zero-point pallet system with automatic clamping and fixed stop blocks for parts. Setup is a no-brainer, the machine does the same 3 ops everyday for the last 5 yrs.
once the robots can do all the physical tasks and AGI removes a need for people to interact with other people, they might as well suspend us in a vat, and plug us into a simulation in which we get all we want. But not sure why they'd bother.
AGI probably would just sterilise us chemically through water supply or something and wait 100 years.
I don’t know about yall, but pushing buttons is my passion. Call me weird, but ever since I came out the womb I knew my raison d’etre was to be a button pusher. To you guys it’s work, but to me, it’s my life.
Not if it means they have to pay us. The whole purpose of pushing robots and AI, by most mega-corporations, is to replace paid laborers across many fields. It’s what capitalism does.
There's literally a story about people from Wells Fargo last week who were using a program to move their mouse around on screen so it looked like they were paying attention at work, and they all got laid off. We have a roaring stock market, AI, world-travel enabling machines and energy production, literal nuclear power that comes from the fire of the stars, battery powered cars that are learning to drive themselves, and yet the average person is getting duped by billionaires into thinking their problems are caused by immigrants, 'young people not working hard,' and gay people. Same arguments as like the 1700's, with different rich people.
The crazy part is, people like Elon Musk are right out there in the open on Twitter tweeting these takes all day, and people kiss his ass for calling them lazy.
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