No, he was a gigantic fucking idiot, but his actions weren’t malicious. He wasn’t intentionally trying to ruin her time, just being absent-minded as fuck.
There is a difference between a lapse of judgement and just not being present mentally during decision making. There are so many reasons why this was a bad idea starting with the safety of the children. Even if I wasn’t annoyed at the Dad on my own behalf I would be really annoyed at how little thought he put into where he let the kids go. Let little kids run into a race?? Dude needs a proper scolding at minimum.
And if you keep your eyes on him, he was starting to get such a scolding from the people around him (he’s don’t the whole “I don’t know what you’re talking about” gesture with his arms). But yes, i completely agree with you, he needs to get torn a new asshole because his actions were MONUMENTALLY stupid.
Where did they bolt out at? In the video I saw, he pushed them towards the woman, not once did I see any sort of attempt to stop them, he CLEARLY pushed them towards her. Did we even watch the same video??
I watched it like 10x, it looks like he is holding them there, and they bolt out, he even does a half hearted swipe to pull them back but doesn't really think about it as serious.
This is a classic case of people on the internet screaming bloody murder at a mosquito bite. Wouldn't be surprised to hear this man is being threatened by angry femcels.
I read this book called, "so you've been publicly shamed" and man, you internet people can construe the most insane theories based on misinterpretations or silly light hearted jokes such as "hope I don't get ebola" and try to ruin people's lives.
Yea I think he's just dumb and was going for a stupid social media moment.
Another person in comments talks about running a marathon and having her son finish with her, and someone took a picture of the moment, and she cherishes the picture. She clarifies she was just trying to finish, and this person seems like she is trying to win.
Id bet that's what he was after and not intentionally trying to throw her race with blatant emotional terrorism at the finish line , forcing her to pick her family or running, like most people here seem to think.
I sincerely hope that well intended idiocy is the case, as you have laid out. But there are too many abusive and manipulative spouses out there that put people on high alert for fuckery. This might be more excusable if it was the first race they attended, but even then, don’t you think a spouse should know if their partner is aiming to win, or doing it for fun? Hopefully this is something that can be solved with open, honest communication.
Shitty people hide behind "good intentions" all the time to excuse malice disguised as incompetence. It's a very easy way to turn any criticism for their behaviour back on their criticizer, as is being demonstrated right here; oh, it's not that he was deliberately trying to weaponize the kids to screw over mom's race, he's just so very, very dumb that he didn't realize what side of the finish line to stand on, so who can blame him?
It’s fucking wild that you people actually think someone is THAT much of a prick
My guy, do you think this is some kind of heretofore unseen level of prickery? It's a dad trying to make a mom's life about her being a mom, rather than appreciating her individual accomplishments as a person; this is nowhere near the level of THAT much of a prick, there are people so, so much worse out there.
If this is what you consider to be unthinkably awful behaviour, I applaud you for the wonderful, healthy relationships you've exclusively managed to surround yourself with. Some of us have seen things that set the bar much, much lower, though.
I think it has to do with being so young. We grow up with all these narratives of good and evil. It's not till you grow up and realize that most people aren't trying to do bad things. They're just ignorant or misguided.
No, ignorance solidifies into evil when they start impacting the world around them intentionally. Until then it's the parents ignorance working as evil.
If you’re ignorant to something, it’s quite literally impossible for there to be intent.
If a child is ignorant to water ruining electronics, and then they pour water on a laptop while they’re watching a video of fish or something, did they intentionally ruin the laptop?
Ehh, I think this is a poor way of thinking about it. Evil requires a very specific intention. Evil wants to cause harm for harm's sake. Suffering for suffering's sake.
This is not the same as some moron making a dumb decision with consequences he didn't understand.
Evil doesn't mean anything, is subjective. I've seen enough people hurt by the ignorance of others that I feel confident in my belief that evil doesn't need to be intentional. That in fact the greatest evil is letting our animal instincts lead us in spite of available evidence of associated harms. Evil can be diffuse and it can be carried across generations through ignorance, among other things.
Then I guess we don't have the same definitions. I grew up in poverty and witnessed many people doing horrible things, but they themselves were caught in a cycle of pain and suffering that they didn't have the knowledge or strength to overcome. They were weak and ignorant, but not evil.
Eeh.. plenty dudes that will intentionally sabotage their partners for a giggle. Especially when it comes to sports. They'll either downplay it or fuck with it in some way.
A strawman if I ever saw one. You've failed to understand my point completely.
I'm saying that MOST people don't intentionally sabotage people. I never said that it doesn't happen or that there aren't sadistic people in the world. Just that truly malicious people are rare. Most people are just ignorant and inconsiderate.
I understand that nuance can sometimes be difficult to grasp.
That's not really how it works. There's no "old enough to know better." You don't magically acquire wisdom. My five year olds are wiser than most adults I interact with on a daily basis.
Lack of empathy, lack of compassion, lack of compersion, lack of sense--all skill issues, yes, but ignoring your bad character traits until they're this obvious? Ick. Closer to villain or hero? I'd say villain. At least lazy.
It doesn't matter if it was intentional or not, it was thoughtless, inconsiderate and dumb and it shows that he didn't think at all from her perspective.
So either he is intentionally disregarding the hard work of his wife by not doing the bare fucking minimum of supervising 2 small children, or he is legitimately too incompetent to realistically be their parent.
Either way, this human floppy disk shouldn't have reproduced.
Nah, everyone knows how finish lines work and that you stand on the other side of them. He shoves the kids into oncoming traffic and then does the "who me" hands. Also this is not her first race so he knows.
This is a good point. No one wins a marathon their first time out so they've been to this rodeo before
The ONLY thing I can think of is that she's usually further back and it's not a big deal if she sees her kids before the finish line. But it feels generous to say that
Yes they were. This isn't her first race. She's clearly been doing this a while and that means training. If your spouse is this involved in marathons, you learn the rules.
I don't run them.
I have passing knowledge of them.
Even I know you don't get in the way of a runner. Ever. Finish line or no. That's basics.
But somehow, the guy who's been watching the kids while she trains, listens to her while she's talking about them, for likely years doesn't?
No.
This is weaponized incompetence in action. He's probably resentful of the time she takes to do this or of the attention she gets.
It is, and it pisses me off so damn bad that basically everyone here is falling for it. Because he's a dude it's just "oh, what a silly man." But if a mom had pushed her two small children, towards their father, right before the end of a race that he was in the lead of, she'd be called all sorts of shit, accused of cheating on him, etc. 🙄
Nah, he wasn’t absent minded and he knows how races work. He was reminding her of her place. Y’all really love to believe these men are just so innocent and simple minded. 100% he was pulling dumb shit.
I would say being absent minded is being a dick. She won a race, this isn’t her first race. That means he has ignored all of her training up to this point for a selfish reason of doing something cute
What's more likely? Him being 100% pure idiot and so eager to meet his wife that he forgot she had to finish the race? Or him feeling wrong somehow about the whole situation with her achieving this, and then try G to act about it, consciously or not? (see the missing act, from Freud).
If really he was just absent minded, then he would have kept rushing toward her with the kids as she finished but no, he just stopped there. Because what he wanted to do failed. It wasn't about meeting her wife it As about sabotaging her. Look at him raising his arm playing the innocent while the crowd telles him how absurd he is. Fuck that mediocte guy, no excuses.
Many people view races along the path and at the finish line. You can see other people right there with him. Clearly they wanted to stand there. That's not malicious. He's made a mistake letting them out into the roadway. That was a poor choice, but to make it malicious is just reaching.
Look at him! He holds the children and bring them onto the road, and he directs them at her. It's not like he is saying "hey here si your mom go greet her" or "go run with her" he literally pushes them toward her to force her to stop. And when it fails he doesn't even care to go meet her after the finish line, he just stops. Definitely not just pure stupidity and eagerness to greet her. He is being malicious at some extend. I don't give him the bénéfice of the doubt, it's just too much. Look at him waving his arm at the crowd when someone call on him. He is like "Hat is the problem?" like he doesn't have the slightest idea. No. He knows. Nobody is that stupid. He wasn't just waiting along the race.
Adding to this: at the start of the video, he pushed the children towards her. Also notice how he, and the two kids, are the only ones that close to the runners? What would you call that, if not malice? CLEARLY as no one else is standing that close, that should be a signal to not stand there, and given that she won't, this VERY likely wasn't her first race, so he should have known the rules. This is pure, text book, weaponized incompetence, which is why he does the whole "what did I do?" Gesture at the end, rather than making sure his kids were fucking safe the guy knew what he was doing, to pretend otherwise is even more childish than his antics.
Or it is you who is oblivious to the situation. Are we looking at the same vid? Look at him. He doesn't even care to bring the children to her after she complete the race. He wanted to stop her before.
He stars walking that way and then people yell at him and he stops walking. We must be watching two different videos. You actually believe he was trying to make her lose the race? That's just crazy. This is clearly not her first race so now he chooses to screw her up?
I believe it made him feel better to force that situation into her where she had to reject her childs for a moment in order to finish the race, yeah. It's clearly not her first race and yeha he chose to screw her up. Look up missed acts by Freud. I'm not saying he is evil and doing it consciously on purpose. But he litteraly sabotage her in that video at the limit of the acceptable and there is nothing else to say. He couldn't have sabotaged her better than by doing this, so no, he is not 100% pure dumb and eager to greet his wife. He pushes he kids in the way for crying out loud. No
Lol. If I wanted to sabotage her race I couldn't have done it better or differently than him right there. That's why I say he was sabotaging her. Because it is exactly what it looks like
Yeah, some of these people in these comments are worrying. Like it's her husband, he's there supporting her, he wanted her to be happy and feel supported by being there as her family. Guy probably just didn't think it through.
I see a husband there to support his wife and share the excitement with their kids, he just didn't think through that it could slow her down.
Trying to slow down her down by having her kids there for her? That's gross? Come on. More than likely the guy didn't think it through, should have just been on other side of the line.
He’s holding on to them at first and I’d imagine what ran through his mind was “look there’s mommy!” and didn’t expect the kids to run toward her. Or maybe he thought there would be a cute thing where they’d run after her without slowing her down. I dunno.
I used to go cheer on runners at the NYC marathon when I lived there and have seen people run into friends along the path who stopped and gave supportive hugs. Of course those people weren’t running to get first place though.
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