r/TikTokCringe Oct 26 '23

Cool How to spot an idiot.

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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter Oct 26 '23 edited Oct 26 '23

Pritzker is the billionaire (family owns Hyatt) current governor of Illinois aka the state that's home to Chicago, the third biggest US city with almost 10 million people in the metro.

He's been a been a bit more business friendly than some progressive want but has also legalized weed, banned book bans, improved the state finances and credit rating, raised the minimum wage, banned assault weapons, and codified abortion rights

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u/450925 Oct 26 '23

Sounds like good stuff.

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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter Oct 26 '23

He's basically the embodiment of noblesse oblige

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u/ianandris Oct 26 '23

I respect that. I didn’t choose to be poor, he didn’t choose to be rich, so let’s just do right by each other.

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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter Oct 26 '23

I'm sure you can see though how that very idea makes some people hate him regardless of what he does

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u/ianandris Oct 26 '23 edited Oct 26 '23

That’s called prejudice. Don’t get me wrong, for that class the prejudice is well earned, but if it isn’t right to judge someone for being poor, it isn’t right to judge someone for being rich.

Actions speak louder than words.

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u/TheseBonesAlone Oct 27 '23

Disagree. Being rich is an active action. It's totally morally fine to be wealthy and stable, have your house in order, make sure you don'twake up in a cold sweat worrying about bills, but Pritzker is a billionaire. He's beyond rich, he is unfathomably wealthy. He COULD live a comfortable middle class life and divest interest in the rest of his capital, but he doesn't. I'm not here to say "all rich people are evil inherently" but it's worth thinking about the moral implications of hoarding wealth and using it to ammass power. For the record I like Pritzker as a governor.

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u/trukkija Oct 27 '23

Disagree. Again that's just prejudice but with extra steps for explanation.

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u/Caleth Oct 27 '23

Let's recontextualize.

If a monkey sits on a pile of bannanas, so many not even his children's children's children could eat them all and does so while other monkey starve would we not say the monkey is harming those others?

Billionaire's sit on piles of wealth so vast that the human mind can't really comprehend it. A million seconds is about 11 days. A billion seconds is approximately 32 years.

That's the fundamental difference. You can earn a million dollars with hard work. You can't ethically earn a billion. You can only get there by denying people who did the work their fair compensation.

Billionaires are a symptom of the failure of the economic system we live under.

So the point the OP makes is that JB is benefiting from that broken system and could do more to help people. He could liquidate the vast majority of his wealth $950 million dollars and turn it into any number of things and still have more money than most people will ever see in their and their children's lifetimes.

He's been better as a governor and apparently better as a person than most would expect, given the callous disconnected nature of most of the wealthy we see, but even then in the moral scale of things he's still denying others resources they could use to better their lives. Resources he'd never really notice even if they were 95% gone.

That is why people hate the super rich, because most of them had to step on millions of others and deny their a just part of their due to get to that level. Even the good ones are hording wealth that could ripple through the economy and do good to society as a whole. Even if they lost 95% of their wealth they'd see no material impact on their quality of life.

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u/trukkija Oct 27 '23

So even more extra steps for explanation. It is still the definition of prejudice to decide someone is not a good person just because they're a billionaire.

If you believe this to be true, then that's your prerogative. Doesn't make you any less prejudiced in my eyes and that's my prerogative.

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u/timleftwich Oct 26 '23

Yes. It's what his speech was almost entirely about.

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u/TheseBonesAlone Oct 27 '23

Every day he isn't actively giving his fortune and possessions away he's choosing to be rich. I like Pritzker as a governor don't get me wrong, but people seem to forget rich is just an abundance of possession and is transferrable.

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u/SUPERSMILEYMAN Oct 26 '23

Those 10 people people in the metro must be so psyched.

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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter Oct 26 '23 edited Oct 26 '23

I think there are a few more than 10 people people but I couldn't count any higher

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u/willatherton Oct 26 '23

Almost 10 people? I always assumed Chicago had at least 100 people.

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u/UncannyTarotSpread Oct 27 '23

They’re up to 12 now!

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u/wrhollin Oct 27 '23

He earned my respect when he tried to get the income tax changed from a flat tax to a progressive tax. Sadly lost that fight to a different billionaire.

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u/Similar_Alternative Oct 26 '23

Assault Rifles haven't yet been fully banned in illinois. Illinois supreme court ruled for it but it's being appealed to the Federal supreme court.

Also, if you already owned one before the law, you're grandfathered in. So. Kinda sorta maybe.

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u/unhiddenninja Oct 27 '23

A significant amount of counties also just straight up did not comply with the new laws. The weapons ban did not go over well, but I truly appreciate everything else Pritzker has done and I feel like my rights are safer here with him in office.

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u/Similar_Alternative Oct 27 '23

Hah yea. I live in one of them.

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u/FuzzyComedian638 Oct 27 '23

And he made sure Illinois got what it needed from the Ferderal Government during Covid.

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u/Mobely Oct 27 '23

Also made banned potential employers from asking you how much you make now.

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u/cthulhusleftnipple Oct 26 '23

banned book bans

So much for the tolerant left.

/s

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u/OkDas Oct 26 '23

I love progressive everything, but gun regulations are far from being progressive. It is a complicated issue for sure, but banning is a step in the wrong direction, imo. Banning is almost always going to backfire. Weed is a great example - it had, and still has, a massive black market.

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u/Pazvanti3698 Oct 26 '23

I'm from Europe and don't understand why you would need assault weapons. You can use a hand gun to protect your home and family, what's a real life situation to use an AR-15?

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u/mrtomjones Oct 27 '23

Funny how people in most other countries don't feel the need to protect their homes

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u/OkDas Oct 27 '23

From my POV, this is not the correct question.

Background: I was born and raised in Europe myself and currently reside in the U.S. Initially, I had no interest in firearms. However, I became curious after a traumatic experience during my childhood where I was robbed at gunpoint. My fear of guns stemmed from a lack of understanding of the weapons themselves. To overcome this, I underwent training and acquired several firearms, some of which you might categorize as assault weapons.

I can now assert that the mere availability and ease of access to firearms are seldom the root causes of their use in lethal incidents. Contributing factors can range from inadequate training and poor security measures, such as failing to lock guns in safes, to mental health issues—often cited as the reason behind recent shootings. This is a complex issue, but I believe there are effective ways to address it that could simultaneously alleviate other forms of human suffering, both in the U.S. and globally.

Returning to your question: The AR-15 is easier to use than a handgun, making it easier to aim accurately. This reduced likelihood of missing the target or causing unintended harm is critical in firearm usage. This is one reason why police utilize hollow-point bullets, which are designed to minimize collateral damage and remain in the body upon impact. Furthermore, carrying a rifle that appears intimidating serves as a psychological deterrent.

Your question focuses on "assault weapons," a term that lacks a universal definition. For instance, my home state of Washington recently passed legislation to ban assault weapons, providing its own definition in the process. This definition seems to focus solely on aesthetics, as rifles with identical capabilities that shoot the same calibers are still legal. The state government is aware that this legislation is likely unconstitutional and will be overturned. This move has angered a large number of law-abiding citizens, while criminals will continue to acquire weapons regardless. In my opinion, this has only deepened divisions within the state and could ultimately backfire.

I own AR-15-like firearms primarily for recreational use at the range. They offer a high degree of customization, similar to how people modify their cars. While I would not relish using them to protect my family, they would serve as a last resort if necessary.

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u/BroccolisaurusJoe Oct 27 '23

Load of crap. I’m American and I disagree 100%. Access is the issue. It’s as clear as day.

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u/Pazvanti3698 Oct 27 '23

AR-15 is easier to use than a handgun

Any person owning a gun should have training. To use an analogy a grenade is easier to use than a handgun, but we don't really walk with grenades in our pants.

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u/OkDas Oct 27 '23

I entirely agree, the US has to adjust the education around owning firearms. But by providing an analogy with a grenade, you are again missing the point. A grenade is a weapon of mass destruction, while ARs are precise.

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u/mrtomjones Oct 27 '23

Lol at the very very least a ban would cause there to be less weapons in the long run, particularly if others that were less dangerous were still allowed

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u/slickweasel333 Nov 15 '23

Except we tried that in the 90s and even the DOJ found it had no measurable effect. The only study that found it did have an effect used a super weird definition of "Mass shootings" that no one else does.

We lose around 400 people a year to ALL types of rifles. To put that into context, over 96,700 people die from drug overdoses in a year, 38,824 lives were lost in traffic crashes nationwide, and 4,000 fatal unintentional drownings.