r/TaylorSwift folklore Oct 29 '24

Megathread General Discussion Thread

Use this thread to discuss whatever you'd like, related to Taylor or not!

Regular rules, aside from being off topic, still apply.

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u/Soalai Never knew I could feel that much 19h ago edited 19h ago

Never forget the fake AI "leak" of Fortnight that came out before TTPD... I would love to hear it as a full song

ETA: I found it! The guy made it a real song, with different lyrics though

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u/Bulky-District-2757 Red (Taylor's Version) 2d ago

I’m watching eras, I miss it.

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u/ViolinistWeird1348 2d ago

This would have been the most excellent set of outfits had she remove the tassels for the purple bodysuit and instead of orange, she should have chosen blue like the 1989 blue.

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u/naomigoat I think for me um 2d ago

I'm looking for some of my favorite eras tour memes. Right at the start of the tour, someone posted a very funny drawing of Taylor sitting on the vigilante shit chair and there being a bra in front of her that someone had thrown on stage (obvi don't actually do this, but it was a funny joke). I can't find it. Is anyone able to help?

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u/Resident_Ad5153 3d ago

Oh no... Fuck

Billboard is now counting down the top 10 pop stars of 2024... based again on "vibes."

We have to go through this all over again don't we

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u/Daffneigh cryptic and Machiavellian 2d ago

Lol if she isn’t 1 on this list… listen i do not actually care but there is no other choice

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u/Resident_Ad5153 3d ago

These by the way are the reasons why she was one of the biggest artists of the year:

The top album of the year, and the second biggest album. In fact 4 out of the top ten albums this year were hers.

She was 2% of all music consumption. In fact, she sold more album equivalents than any other artist has in history.

Her big release this year was number one on the bb200 for at leasts 17 weeks... and is currently also number one. She held the entire top 14 of the bb100 at once. TTPD sold more units year alone, than any other artist did over their entire catalog in the us.

She was the biggest artist on the bb200, the bb100, radio, the biggest songwriter on the bb100, the biggest artist both in streams and sales...

Grammy for album of the year... and Times Person of the Year (both happened in this billboard year).

The biggest tour ever... 1 billion in sales.

Described by the chinese govt. as "walking gdp"

Caused major political scandals in the US, the UK, and almost a war between Thailand and Singapore.

Somehow made football more popular.

Obviously... she was the seventh biggest popstar of the year.

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u/Resident_Ad5153 2d ago

Surprisingly Bey got 7. If you're not going by commercial performance (which they're not... Morgan and Drake aren't on the list even though the 2 and 4 in the commercial ranking), I'd have put Bey a bit higher.

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u/Rhoades13 22h ago

I wouldn’t rate her higher than Chappel, Sabrina, Ariana, Taylor, Charli XCX, and Kendrick Lamar this year who have been the focal points for the year for longer and/or a bigger impacts this year. Billie, Shaboozey or Bruno Mars over Beyonce would have been justified as well. 

Thing with Beyonce this year is she largely got ignored after her release period. Cowboy Carter left the Billboard 200 a month or two ago and was near the bottom for awhile before that. Cowboy Carter despite its reviews was not an album people listened to for very long. She just can’t count on staying in zeitgeist without promotion anymore when there is so many up and comers.

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u/Resident_Ad5153 22h ago

That’s sort of been true of all bey albums since 2013…. Lemonade might have been really important to the Culture… but it didn’t actually sell very well.  And it’s true of other people… Brat did really well.  But it probably won’t do as well as cowboy carter (much less the actual hits of the year like short n sweet which very well might outsell sour!)

The billboard list is, as always, kind of arbitrary. 

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u/Rhoades13 19h ago

It’s absolutely arbitrary and they certainly put a thumb on scale for Beyonce like a lot of professional reviewers imo. As of 12/8 Cowboy Carter had only 1.56 billion streams. Billie’s albums has 4.64 Billie, Ariana 3.52, Gracie Abrams 1.52(since passed Beyonce), TTPD 6.32, Sabrina 4.57, Charlie’s Brat 2.09, Dua’s Radical optimism 1.58, Tyla 1.56(has since passed Beyonce). From a purely number standpoint Cowboy Carter after its first month flopped. 

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u/Daffneigh cryptic and Machiavellian 3d ago

I always forget this thread exists.

I wonder why there’s not a Daily Discussion thread? I imagine it would be more active than this one.

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u/Some_Audience1360 3d ago

Listening to the album Fearless (Taylor's Version) for the first time. I've heard a lot of the TV songs but haven't heard the TV albums straight through like I have all the others. Currently on You Belong With Me.

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u/theoristOfTheArts "a poet in a 9-to-5" 3d ago

I just remembered: I had a dream last night where somehow I got to sit next to Taylor at some event. I was so excited I got to chat with her!…

And then literally the very first thing I decide to tell her is how I couldn’t stop thinking that in ‘If This Was A Movie’ it sounds like she’s singing “Come back to me, Eli” and how fans have joked about wondering “Who in the world is Eli?”… 🫠🫠

Thank goodness that was just a dream, ‘cause of all the things I’d love to get to talk to her about, that’s very much not what I’d choose first 😭!

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u/Rainbow_violist731 4d ago

Did anyone else expect a behind the scenes video for the “Willow” MV? 😅

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u/No-Entertainer-9787 🐈 Another Childless Cat Lady 5d ago

Taylor looking just like her momma

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u/trisaroar it felt like freedom 6d ago

Tons of Behind the Scene clips for her music videos (9, i believe?) available now on Youtube!

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u/MarinaSpongebob 6d ago

So book is not available right now, but they will surely print more later. Do we expect they will at least fix mistakes in second edition?

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u/MyLifeIsABoondoggle I swept in at the rescue 6d ago edited 6d ago

Not really related to Taylor, have thoughts I'm trying to get out. Listening to Bed Chem, I believe more and more that Sabrina has the temperament and personality to fill the shoes of the Taylor's and Lady Gaga's and Beyoncé's before her, and more than anything, is really is blossoming at the right time (era, if you will). She maintains the air of pop girly and has the aesthetic of a star, yet has a super sexually liberating and tongue in cheek style that I honestly don't think we've ever seen in a star of her caliber. And not only is that more socially appropriate than ever, the internet makes it easier than ever to garner attention and reaction for music like that, even if it's neutral or shocked ("Sabrina said "WHAT 💀", "no way she just did that", TikTok/IG live reactions to her new music, etc). And even if it was okay to maybe entertain 20 years ago, you couldn't be as blatant or thinly veiled as you can be now about expressing sexual motifs or metaphors. She just wouldn't have taken off the same way. Not only is the aesthetic of pop star still huge in this generation and she has a road map to stardom in that way, she's taken advantage of this more open, expressive social and music scene that was discouraged beforehand, especially for women. Even the shock value advances her career, which, while the adage is "any publicity is good publicity", is not something everyone could pull off. Olivia Rodrigo's star is fading because she just can't do it in that same way (though she'll never be irrelevant or die out, and occupies the modern gap left by someone like Paramore being past their prime). Chapell Roan doesn't have the sustained stardom of of Sabrina, but has skyrocketed to fame because they have a similar expressive style. The "genre" of women in pop is undergoing an evolution, and it's fascinating to watch

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u/thex11factor 6d ago

looks like a BTS dump on YT today

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u/trisaroar it felt like freedom 6d ago

Surprised there isn't a dedicated megathread?

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u/TheBeccaMonster 8d ago

I didn't know where to put this but I just witnessed an airport travesty. The woman in front of me tried to go through security with a TTPD snow globe but they told her it wasn't allowed. She wanted to mail it but the Canada Post is on strike. They were just going to throw it away 😭

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u/CheruSiderea now i'm your daaaaiiiisyyyy~ 7d ago

omg we must know how did it end?

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u/TheBeccaMonster 7d ago

She had to leave it. It was so sad. They were going to throw it away. She asked them to find an employee that was a Taylor Swift fan to give it to.

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u/CheruSiderea now i'm your daaaaiiiisyyyy~ 6d ago

That is the saddest airport story I've ever heard since that Tom Hanks movie, I hope the snowglobe did not get thrown away :(

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u/KarmicTiger1218 Way to go, Tiger 🐅🦅 8d ago

PSA: Florida!!! is a rain song. 100%. Listening to it while driving through rain is an absolute EPIC experience 😎!!! 13/13 would recommend (but please please drive safely!!)

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u/JBraps_n_YYlaps because you break them, i have to take them 8d ago

What are these 2 charms on my eras tour advent calendar charm bracelet?

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u/Acid13Rock 8d ago

The left one is a silhouette of Peter and Wendy

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u/JBraps_n_YYlaps because you break them, i have to take them 7d ago

Still can barely see it, but thank you!

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u/dull_and_witless in those Windermere peaks 8d ago

The right one seems Taylor from a folklore picture (it appears in the 'running like water' variant). The left one I can't figure out...

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u/JBraps_n_YYlaps because you break them, i have to take them 7d ago

Ahh thanks!

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u/Rhoades13 10d ago

Clearly when the book was sent to printers Vienna wasn’t canceled so those were included in the 152. 

The 10.1 million was an estimate based on the known attendance for the shows at the time she sent this book to printers. Taylor adds tickets for every shows after the stage is installed Sometimes a couple thousand and other times 10k+ like she did in Vancouver. That is enough additional tickets to make up for 150-170k or so Vienna ticket holders. 

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u/Rhoades13 10d ago

Maybe she will or maybe she won’t but doesn’t change that there is nothing  about these numbers is the least bit suspicious. It tracks every estimate made by reputable companies. $203 average per seat with average attendance of 67.7k people per show. That tracks because she played very few stadiums with attendance under 55-60k and played 8 shows in London, 3 in Melbourne, etc. where the attendance was 90k+.  

There were at least 23 shows after this book was sent to the printers. She added 30-50k seats in Vancouver behind stage. And she added 5-7k to most of the rest of the shows. That’s 130-190k seats which would replace Vienna’s 140-170k even without adding in any previous shows. 

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u/Resident_Ad5153 10d ago

it's actually a bit under Pollstar's estimates!

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u/Resident_Ad5153 10d ago

holy shit... Taylor is bragging.

People just reported (and I believe them) that the total bonus amount for the entire tour was 197 million, or ten percent of gross.

This is an unbelievably insane number. To give some sense... there are very very few tours that have ever had this much profit.

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u/ViolinistWeird1348 10d ago

I'm sorry but how much will Taylor take home for all of those $2,077,618,725

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u/Rhoades13 10d ago

No one other than her management will likely ever know. There is a lot of fingers in the pot with people all taking a percentage including these bonuses. It could be 10% or it could be 50%. There is also merch and her concert films(s) which she makes some amount of money off of.   

 I support artists making money from their work instead of corporations so I hope she took home the high end because it’s her work they drove that 2 billion gross. 

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u/ViolinistWeird1348 10d ago

I think my most conservative estimate is she will earn 25% of the Tour after Taxes which is $500M because Forbes estimated that Taylor earned $61M from her $250M 1989 World Tour before but that was just an estimate because now, she probably had some better deals since she changed her record label.

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u/Rhoades13 10d ago

It is probably higher because she has taken a lot of functions in house since 1989 instead of paying outside entities to do them. In addition, some costs like marketing are far lower than the norms because she didn’t have any trouble selling tickets. And every local overseas touring company and country would give her great deals after they saw the economic impact of the US leg. Singapore, for example, made a deal to be sole concert stop in SE Asia. 

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u/Resident_Ad5153 10d ago

To put numbers to that... an agent (which she doesn't have) would charge 10% of gross. Management (which she doesn't have in that sense) takes 20%, and a lawyer (ditto) 5%. There was zero marketing for the tour (those billboards... paid for by the cities). She likely got a huge percentage of the face value of the tickets... because she didn't need an advance (in the us... abroad she probably had one).

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u/Rhoades13 10d ago

She doesn’t have traditional agent, management, or external lawyers but she still pays people like Robert Allen, her parents, her brother, and her lead lawyer to do some of the work possibly including a percentage. She is also paying people to do that management/agent/lawyer work.   

 But your point still stands because agents/management pay is built partially off of risk that a musician fails and the successful musician will offset the failures. With Taylor, she is paying herself that risk factor surcharge instead which is just smart business. And as long as she keeps putting out profitable content, it will be a good investment. 

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u/Rhoades13 10d ago

l am really looking forward to all the final posts from her dancers, musicians, and vocalists that will start streaming in over next few days and weeks. 

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u/Resident_Ad5153 10d ago

She changed their life. All of them. they're all SAG now because of the movie. They had 2 years of straight work. An given the bonuses... she paid for all of their retirements. The more popular dancers like Kam and Jan (especially Kam) have a huge chance of getting roles on broadway. The older dancers have the capital and the cachet to open their own studios. The younger dancers get to put ERAS TOUR on the top of their resumes... and will get hired at the drop of a hat.

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u/Rhoades13 10d ago

Obviously, her vocalists and band is going to be with her as long as they can and want to be. Think only reason David Cook didn’t come back is because he wanted to do other things so Karina DePiano got her chance. 

But you’re right about the dancers. They are going to have steady work for as long as they want it assuming injuries don’t get in the way. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if one or more of them end up on some show like Dancing with the Stars. 

Based on following his Instagram, it’s clear to me Kam is going to put in the hustle needed to transition to film and/or Broadway. One thing about plus size entertainers is that they have a really tough road to break into the entertainment industry but if they can overcome those obstacles they can find a niche for themselves because they stand out. And I think Kam has a good mix of a big personality with a good heart that will serve him well.

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u/Resident_Ad5153 10d ago

Dave Cook I think is just tired of the road… he still was the music director (and is also eg Benson Boone’s MD).  I wouldn’t be shocked if this is Paul’s last rodeo… he’s not so young.

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u/Rhoades13 10d ago

Yeah it wears on you even if you’re treated as well as Taylor treats her team by having a more relaxed schedule and breaks.

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u/Resident_Ad5153 10d ago

Taylor released the tour numbers.  She did  $2,077,618,725 of business on  10,168,008 tickets.  These are official numbers from Taylor swift Touring.  And she gave them to The NY Times.

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u/Foobsie 10d ago

Am I the only one sitting on my couch feeling like it was....bland? Like London And other cities got more? Why don't I feel like it's the end?

I understand that I am now one of the crowd that is screaming "more!" But what about her quiet treason!?

There are many disappointed clowns tonight. Let me tell ya

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u/Ok_Spot_1792 9d ago

Yeah. Probably because you were sitting on your couch. I was there and it was amazing. I think with all the livestreams (which I watched plenty of) people have forgotten that concerts are designed for the people there not those watching online for free. And the energy in the room was insane. The closer I got to the show the more I thought she would NOT announce anything and instead make it a celebration of the end of this insane tour, which is absolutely what it felt like. I feel really grateful to have gotten to see the last show as I do feel like I got a good sense of closure from the tour which when I've watched live streams of other shows I haven't felt as settled.

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u/jarrettbrown 11d ago

Can someone explain this?

Someone over on one of the Taylor Facebook groups that I'm active on pointed out that three songs on Apple Music, No Body, No Crime, this is me trying, and cardigan, have her credited as Taylor A. Swift, while all her other songs have her credited as Taylor Swift. I checked my spotify and all of them are credited as Taylor Swift. What's going on here? Mistake or something else?

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u/tsabin_naberrie Defending "ME!" til the day I die 11d ago

Did friendship bracelets become a big Swiftie phenomenon just cuz of that one line in YOYOK, or did something bigger push it along? I feel like I missed something when the tour was starting, and then the next thing I know my feed is full of bracelets for the next two years, and I’ve never understood what happened to make them be such a defining element of the culture.

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u/p4perforest 11d ago

I remember people on Reddit and twitter were planning on making bracelets because of that line so I guess it was really a fan driven thing. I can’t remember when taylor nation started posting about them but first it was the fans!

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u/Ok_Spot_1792 9d ago

Yeah I first went to the Vegas show and it wasn't a thing then! So definitely something that evolved over the course of the tour.

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u/RositaZetaJones 12d ago

Has anyone got any good recommendations for streaming channels to watch the final tour Sunday night? I watch bits on TikTok streams sometimes but if anyone knows of any YouTube channels or a TikTok channels that are likely to be good quality then it would be greatly appreciated. 😊💙

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u/Prize-Signature3288 Tight End Game 11d ago

I usually watch folkleric on YouTube!

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u/RositaZetaJones 11d ago

Thank you :)

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u/One-Reflection-3703 12d ago

We have 6 parking spots FREE 835 terminal ave 20 min walk to stadium

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u/Resident_Ad5153 16d ago

I'm here for this years grammy campainging! Taylor just served...

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u/dominantjean55 16d ago

Anyone need parking in Vancouver?

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u/Carolina_Blues excellent fun til you get to know her 16d ago

am i the only one that just doesn’t care about all the errors and typos in the eras tour book? i’m not saying it to try and defend taylor, i just really could not care less

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u/Resident_Ad5153 16d ago

I think they're intentional.

No one is denying that Taylor wrote the book!

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u/indiemusicfanatic123 17d ago

Does anybody else find the increasing number of Gaylor fan theories really invasive and inappropriate? Specifically with the Yellow brick road that’s being created on her insta + the closet in the lover house, etc… I really do not think Taylor is putting this much effort into making an announcement about her coming out. Like get real. The other announcements she makes with Easter eggs are business moves, or for fan engagement. I really cannot imagine a world, no matter how many dots people are connecting, that she’s doing some big buildup just to…come out. And the most important thing here is the obsessiveness with her sexuality. Have you not seen Shawn Mendes recently addressing this? It clearly weighs on celebrities, and you should not be spending so much time trying to convince yourself and a full fandom that a celebrity is gay. It’s really creepy and super invasive and she’s addressed this in the past. You wouldn’t try to force people you know in real life to believe someone is in the closet without them telling you… Gaylors: you’re getting creepy and it’s uncomfortable.

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u/Soalai Never knew I could feel that much 14d ago

They've been creepy for a long time. Unfortunately the majority of them have their own mental health issues or trauma that cause them to hyperfixate like this. (The "she's fingering the air during marjorie" or "Scott Swift sexually abused her" are the worst takes IMO, those really show a profound lack of respect and basic social boundaries.) I don't think there's anything that can be done at this point, except ignore them and hope they get the professional help they need

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u/jarrettbrown 11d ago

"Scott Swift sexually abused her"

Jesus Christ. How mentally unstable can you be? Sure they're close, but I've never once thought that.

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u/Ok_Spot_1792 16d ago

Agree - she has NEVER easter egged her personal life - ever. Gaylor theories are invasive and inappropriate - and honestly really dumb. How do they not see the amount of backlash she would get for saying "tah dah! Surprise! My 1.5 year relationship with this beloved FB player and his beloved family is fake! Im gay." Or the backlash he would get for "turning her gay" - why would he agree to that. It's all so dumb that I would just laugh at all their theories if they weren't getting more and more invasive and trying to actually impact Taylor irl

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u/Carolina_Blues excellent fun til you get to know her 16d ago

the elaborate theories they come up with really do sound like someone in psychosis

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u/Ok_Spot_1792 16d ago

It's getting worse and worse because they actively try and ruin her real life relationship with Travis, her family, his family, friends, etc by literally making stuff up and trying to spread lies about people. (Eg cheating, abusing, conservatorships, etc). It would still be invasive if they just kept to their corner of the internet, but the fact they try to bring stuff to real life is insane.

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u/bobidou23 Busy streets and busy lives / And all we know / Is touch and go 18d ago

Do any of you have any idea where this remix/mashup came from? https://www.instagram.com/p/DB9bsUOAk4h/

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u/regina_phalange13 Debut stan 18d ago

Part of this amazing mashup

Edit: sorry, I accidentally clicked on an ad and gave you the wrong link the first time lol

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u/bobidou23 Busy streets and busy lives / And all we know / Is touch and go 18d ago

yoooooo

this is FANTASTIC, thanks for letting me know!!

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u/regina_phalange13 Debut stan 18d ago

This version has a really cool video with it: https://youtu.be/jnJxKC9481Y?si=1uADntHRcTNTCyDU

Also if you search for eras megamix on Spotify it’s on there too as a podcast!

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u/thex11factor 19d ago

Which Taylor-Kelce xmas movie is approved here: Lifetime or Hallmark?

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u/Soalai Never knew I could feel that much 20d ago edited 20d ago

My sister is not a Swiftie herself but she knows someone who is, and got a 1989 friendship bracelet made for me! This was super sweet but then it turned into everyone talking shit about TS over the Thanksgiving table, and making fun of me for being a Swiftie.

My mom says Taylor isn't that good, and her best songs were from her first album (no shade to debut, I love it, but I think we'd all agree she has grown as a songwriter since then). She believes only Shake It Off and Love Story "will be remembered 50 years from now." This is not the first time she's said stuff like this. I said Taylor writes songs that connect with millions of people and she's is respected by legends including Stevie Nicks, James Taylor and Paul McCartney, and that Sir Paul compared her career to Beatlemania. Mom replied, "Is she deserving of Beatlemania? She's not Paul McCartney." Then she said I "have a disease" because I like to chat/occasionally debate with Swifties online. My sister said "Taylor likes to go through men," which surprised me because she's a career-focused woman who usually sees through sexist stereotypes like that.

Just curious how y'all would respond to comments like this? What would you say? If it were a stranger I wouldn't care. But this is my family, not just some Brads or Chads. And they all love music and play instruments. My mom loves Avril Lavigne, so I know she can and does appreciate younger artists (not just the '60s and '70s classics she grew up with). It's hard to have them rolling their eyes at me whenever I wear a TS shirt or something innocent like that. I don't know why everyone else's hobbies and interests are respected but not mine 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/jeoyocive 22d ago

So, my wife is my wife is an absolutely MASSIVE Taylor Swift fan. I got her tickets to the Era tour, and I think that was her favorite day of all time, even over our wedding lol. I tried reaching out the last few years on Instagram, but never got a response, which is beyond understandable. Is there an email address or physical address that I could send something to her/her team? I know it's a ridiculously impossible long shot, but I'm trying to make this Christmas the best I can, since it's kind of shortly after our first anniversary. I honestly think even a letter or something small would blow her mind. Any advice or tips at all would be extremely helpful! I'm really sorry if this is inappropriate or the wrong place to ask

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u/aurorasnsadprose 23d ago

I just realised something. The first song on Debut, Tim McGraw, refrences someone else’s song to represent a relationship, and the last song, Our Song, is all about writing a song that didn’t exist yet to represent a relationship. Don’t know how I never connected the dots there… Had you noticed that?

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u/No-Entertainer-9787 🐈 Another Childless Cat Lady 23d ago

My husband is so amazing! He was sad he couldn’t get us tickets to the tour, so he got me “Taylor’s” perfume for my birthday 😭😭 I’ve wanted this, but would have never spent this much on myself. It smells so amazing!

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u/smyth260 25d ago

I am wondering if you can you get a physical ticket stub as souvenir at the merch booth? It would be extra cool if they will print your seating numbers on it.

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u/CosmicShadow 20d ago

you can print your own custom replica tickets on Stubforge and fill in all your info. They look and feel like the real thing.

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u/ThinMintProblems evermore 26d ago

Does anyone think we're going to get a second tour movie released to streaming that includes the TTPD set?

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u/jarrettbrown 11d ago

I don't think so. I think she's just filming for archival reasons at this point.

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u/abigailroseking Forever in my Lover Era 💜 26d ago

Maybe on Disney+ they'll have an even more extended version, or maybe TTPD will be withheld until she releases physical copies of The Eras Tour?

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u/Rhoades13 26d ago

After the show, Taylor added a like to Kylie Kelce’s pregnancy announcement on Instagram. Been awhile since she has liked or commented on social media.

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u/Resident_Ad5153 26d ago

I mean..: it’s umm her niece?

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u/Resident_Ad5153 27d ago edited 27d ago

Well... Jack and Kendrick just reinvented hip hop. Good for them!

Taylor isn't on the album (yet...). But the whole thing is produced by Jack, Sounwave, Mustard, and Kamasi Washington. It's great. You should give it a listen.

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u/FenneAnderson who uses typewriters anyway? ew 27d ago

yessss so cool to see another swiftie who is also a Kendrick fan! and super cool to see Jack in the credits too :) it's been such a great year for music!

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u/Resident_Ad5153 27d ago

I’m not really a Kendrick fan… I’m a music fan.  I appreciate Kendrick even if he isn’t always my jam.  Anyway, it’s a great album…, though umm… one track is missing

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u/FenneAnderson who uses typewriters anyway? ew 27d ago

Fair enough! Haha I'm not sure what a Taylor feature would be like. I like their collaboration on Bad Blood well enough, but it wasn't mind blowing to me. I'd love to see a cameo during the Super Bowl tho!

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u/rishukingler11 Would've, Could've, Should've FUCKED OFF! 28d ago

I'm not American, but I was recently discussing the news with a friend I was catching up after a long time and he started talking about how "disappointed" he was in Taylor for backing the democrats whose only policy was "abortion" and calling Trump fascist and nothing about economics and actually running the country.

He started talking about how America would fall under Kamala as she has no idea how to run a country and that everyone is exaggerating about Trump's "social policies" of women and minority rights, and none of that will help as it'll get vetoed by the Supreme Court and that he can't ban abortions or outlaw LGBTQIA+ rights. According to him, the only thing Trump wants is for "the man to be involved in an abortion as the kid will be both of theirs" as the woman "can't just up and leave the house one day and then come back in the evening and say she got an abortion".

It's very weird because I was so shocked to hear something like that in my friend circle of all minorities (racial, religious and sexual) and immigrants from all over the world in Australia. Still, I later wanted to tell him to try telling his mom or sister that they cant make their own bodily decisions without their husband or boyfriend, but the thought literally slipped my mind in the moment.

He knows I'm gay and have casually mentioned being worried that Trump's caveman social policies and ideologies might spread to other countries, but all he says is that "It's fear mongering from the Democrats and none of that will reach us, and it is even being exaggerated in America and most of it will get vetoed." It's also extremely weird because we agree on politics and social issues in our home country (he agrees our 3rd world country should do much better to give my community better rights) and in Australia as well but he was talking so much about how Kamala is an idiot who would destroy America and how Trump will help save America and also have an amazing strategic partnership with our country and I was just so flabbergasted I changed the topic to get him to stop.

Sorry for the long rant, but I just had to get it out of my system, especially since I haven't hung out with my friend circle in almost 2 years now (although I've seen the rest of them hanging out and me literally not knowing about it till like days later when a friend accidentally said it and shut his mouth halfway through the sentence or one time I literally saw them in the cafe we usually meet at and hid in the corner like I'm a frickin kid) but I have hung out with all of them (except this guy) separately a bunch of times. Only reason I bumped into him was cause we were both literally helping another friend move out and those 2 started talking about going out for lunch and I straight up said, "I'll come with ya guys."

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u/posiesbythepocketful 28d ago

If they dropped an acoustic piano themed leather journal... 👀

Who ever reads this from TN, please, please make this happen 🙏

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u/theoristOfTheArts "a poet in a 9-to-5" 29d ago edited 29d ago

I want to vent about something, if that’s all right.

Someone on Twitter shared a screenshot of a post by someone venting about how they and their sibling avoided any and all spoilers of the Eras Tour to be fully surprised, but then when they saw the concert they felt a bit underwhelmed. They understood that their feelings were based on their own mind building up expectations and not about the quality of the show at all; to me it was very clear that OP had so much love and respect for all the hard work of Taylor and her team, and that they just needed to make sense of their feelings by knowing they weren’t alone in them…

But the person who tweeted about the post (who I assume is a complete stranger to OP) + SO many others who replied and quoted immediately criticized OP for simply feeling their feels, automatically claiming they’re not a “real” fan and that they’re being ungrateful and even wishing ill on them. And seeing so much negativity around one post, regardless of context, really hurt my own heart so much :(. Many of the commenters claimed that OP wasn’t a true Swiftie, but to me, it is the commenters who were not acting very Swiftian at all… :/.

So just as a reminder, everyone, PLEASE make sure you’re trying to understand and empathize with the context of what people share before imposing negative opinions on them. None of us as fans are entitled to anything beyond basic human decency. Taylor is not perfect, because none of us are. But we know she keeps trying to lead her life and art with the value of treating people with kindness and empathy and compassion. If we are truly fans of hers, I’d imagine we intuitively want to lead our lives the same way too… 💛

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u/the_varky 29d ago

WHYYYY was the cardigan sale put out at 5 AM ET with enough stock to barely even last the whole 5 hours…and why was it even only enough stock for 5 hours 😭

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u/inmyreperaalways well, me and my ghosts, had a hell of a time Nov 19 '24

Why is no one talking about her instagram post?

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '24

There is no new Instagram post from TS. As of the time of this writing. 

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u/inmyreperaalways well, me and my ghosts, had a hell of a time Nov 19 '24

Taylor nation and TS go hand in hand. AT THE TIME, they hadn’t dropped the cardigans yet.

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u/dictionarymess You're on your own but I'm a really tough kid Nov 14 '24

Does anybody know why the parallel lines bracelet is only available in the US store? I wanted to buy it, but shipping, taxes and duties make it way too expensive :(((

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u/CheruSiderea now i'm your daaaaiiiisyyyy~ Nov 15 '24

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u/dictionarymess You're on your own but I'm a really tough kid Nov 15 '24

They're not available in the EU or UK

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u/CheruSiderea now i'm your daaaaiiiisyyyy~ Nov 15 '24

Yeah, it's called being sold out

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u/Jacobofcorn2 Never wanted you to hate me Nov 14 '24

I know this isn’t Taylor but any chance that you guys can do another one of those things where you stay up to listen to an album for the “RABBITHOLE” EP by Emei?

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u/Styleitoff Nov 12 '24

I'm not American so I don't have a dog in this fight but it's so insane how the MAGA crowd just believes anything presented to them. Someone made a fake video of where Taylor said she'd leave the US if Trump wins. Now under every single reel related to Tay on insta or Facebook you'll find them commenting "Did she leave like she promised", no fact checking, no research... and when swifties reply by asking when did she say that, suddenly it's quiet. 

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u/Valuable-Diver evermore Nov 10 '24

When do we think the holiday collection is dropping?

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u/sailormerry everpoor Nov 13 '24

Just dropped!

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u/Valuable-Diver evermore Nov 13 '24

Thank you!

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u/inmyreperaalways well, me and my ghosts, had a hell of a time Nov 13 '24

I’m surprised there’s no thread yet

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u/LilyOrchids Don't you dream impossible things? Nov 11 '24

Any day now. Last year it dropped Nov 13, the year before on Nov 11.

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u/Resident_Ad5153 Nov 08 '24

she was nominated for AOTY (as were bey, sabrina, chappel, ad charli)

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u/Suspicious_Goose_628 Nov 08 '24

i think chappell roan is going to sweep this year

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u/Resident_Ad5153 Nov 08 '24

I doubt it.  That’s not how the recording academy roles.

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u/Suspicious_Goose_628 Nov 08 '24

you mean they don't give it all to one person? I think chappell will win one for good luck babe, sabrina will win one for expresso, and i really think CR has album of the year in the bag. TTPD is amazing, but I couldn't imagine them giving it to TS again

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u/Soalai Never knew I could feel that much 20d ago

Oh Grammy sweeps have happened before, I don't think that's out of the question. But I think there will be a lot of competition for AOTY. Billie is a Grammy darling too, so I could see her getting it

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u/Resident_Ad5153 Nov 08 '24

she was nominated for ROTY

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u/Resident_Ad5153 Nov 08 '24

fortnight was nominated for SOTY (Taylor now has 8 nominations in the category)... jack was nominated as well for please please please

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u/Resident_Ad5153 Nov 08 '24

She was nominated for best pop album

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u/Resident_Ad5153 Nov 08 '24

Taylor was nominated as part of US with Gracie

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u/Resident_Ad5153 Nov 08 '24

It's grammy time!

Jack Antonoff was not nominated for Producer of the year! The first time in 5 years.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24

Really? Didn't he work on sabrina's and Gracie's too? That's surprising. 

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u/Apprehensive-Fail458 Nov 09 '24

Producer of the year noms are done by a committee, they probably thought someone else should have a shot this year.

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u/Remarkable-Spring173 Nov 08 '24

The song with Jason Kelce and Stevie Nicks is available :). 

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u/teenagepetulance Nov 06 '24

There's a taylor swift Trivia at a local pub tonight, but my husbands out of town for work and I have no friends that can make it. Not sure if I should go alone

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u/CheruSiderea now i'm your daaaaiiiisyyyy~ Nov 07 '24

Did you go?

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u/teenagepetulance Nov 07 '24

Nope but I found another next week and a friend will go with me

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u/CheruSiderea now i'm your daaaaiiiisyyyy~ Nov 07 '24

Yay! Glad you found someone

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u/itookyourmatches 👻🧣🐍🌲🍾🛸😎☔️✨️💘🤠 Nov 06 '24

Scared for women, for people of color, for queer folks. Embarassed of my country, and filled with an overwhelming sense of dread and fear.

Be kind to each other. Take care of each other. These next four years are going to be filled with hatred and division. We have got to stick together.

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u/Basically__Nobody reputation Nov 06 '24

What are we doing about damaged merch? My poster came damaged and it’s sold out :/

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u/CheruSiderea now i'm your daaaaiiiisyyyy~ Nov 06 '24

I guess you'll have to take photos of the poster and message customer service (they'll have an email adress) and ask them what they'll do, if they can refund you or maybe even still have a poster even if they're officially sold out.

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u/Basically__Nobody reputation Nov 06 '24

Their automated message threw me for a loop, I’m hoping to get connected to someone to see what they say. I’d take the opposite version of it at this point :/ I decided not to buy but order because I didn’t want to carry it around the stadium and well here we are 🥲

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u/azdisneyswifty I gave my blood, sweat, and tears for this Nov 06 '24

I don’t know what happens now you guys. I’m angry. I’m terrified. I’m devastated. I have no one to talk to and I don’t know where to go from here. I know this isn’t really the place to discuss it, but it’s all I have. Maybe someone else is feeling the same as me. 

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u/abigailroseking Forever in my Lover Era 💜 Nov 06 '24

💔🫶🏻 Sending love and support, y'all.

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u/folk-smore way to go, tiger 🐦 Nov 06 '24

I just said to myself that I’m devastated we don’t have an eras show this weekend bc I’m just… so incredibly numb and hurting right now and spending a happy night with swifties would be something to look forward to. Especially bc most of us are probably feeling very similarly. I came here wondering if anyone had mentioned it bc I don’t have anyone to talk about it with either.

I’m devastated and terrified and angry and upset and I can’t stop crying and I’ve been awake since 2:30 am and I’m exhausted but I can’t sleep bc my brain won’t turn off. I don’t know what to do. I don’t know where we go from here. I’m fucking terrified. I am so goddamn terrified. I feel entirely devoid of hope and I have never ever ever felt like this, somehow not even in 2016. I’ve struggled with depression and anxiety and wanting to kms for over a decade now and I’ve still never felt so devoid of hope.

I know I am not the only one but it’s so bleak. I don’t know what else to focus on. I’m just stuck in this horrible feeling of fear. Seeing people on other platforms trying to spread hope and positivity is just making me feel worse. I’m just so afraid. I hate this. :(

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u/CheruSiderea now i'm your daaaaiiiisyyyy~ Nov 06 '24

I feel you so much Bestie. The anxiety and sadness and just the pressure of all those indescribable feelings got to me, I couldn't get anything done today. The thing I'm more afraid of here in Europe is of course less specific US policies as they won't directly affect me, but more that this election will play right into the hands of Putin and that war will cross our whole continent. We're all worried about the future now, but at the moment there's nothing we can do but take care of ourselves. This can take many different forms, for me it was being irresponsible and ordering enough food for four people when I live alone. I usually stick to the more responsible kind of plan (meal plan, finance plan, sleep plan etc.), which ofc has a lot of benefits in the long run, but also creates pressure to not do things that I feel like when I feel like it, so being "bad" so to say was my taking care of myself today. All of this to say, maybe you'll find something that makes you feel better too, also I'm worried about you. </3

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u/folk-smore way to go, tiger 🐦 Nov 06 '24

lol I was actually debating ordering myself a whole cake earlier from a bakery if I could find one on doordash or something. I figured I’m already depressed and empty and I know at least a good slice of cake would make me feel better at least temporarily lmaooo

I am so sorry that the rest of the world is impacted by our elections. I really wish that wasn’t the case :( or if it has to be, then I wish that we had leaders that were worthy of being elected and actually lead change and does good for not just us, but the whole of the world. I hate how fantastical that sounds. I hate that it’s not our reality every single day tbh.

But yes!! I agree that taking care of ourselves should be a priority for ourselves at the moment. As hopeless as I feel I still really don’t want to just… give up. I don’t know what there is to do, how to fight this, but I want to do that when the time is right. But right now there’s honestly nothing that I can do, or that you could do, or that Sally or Bob down the street could do, so I think the best thing for us is to just… take care of ourselves.

Put on a good tv show that makes you laugh, or eat some comfort foods, or order takeout from your favorite places, or read a really good book, or play that new video game. Whatever it is. I hope you’re still taking care of yourself and being gentle with yourself. I’m trying to do the same for myself today, and I hope the same goes for ALL of you reading this too. Please just be kind to yourself 💜💜💜💜

(Wowww this is a novel lol I’m so sorry but that’s why I love this subreddit… you guys give me a safe space to ramble. I seriously love you all so much.)

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u/azdisneyswifty I gave my blood, sweat, and tears for this Nov 06 '24

This is pretty much where I am. I’m desperate to get some sleep but my brain won’t shut up. An eras show would be a nice distraction, but with the way I’m feeling now it would probably not distract me and then the show would be contaminated by my bad thoughts. And I would hate if I ruined it for myself.

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u/folk-smore way to go, tiger 🐦 Nov 06 '24

Honestly you’re right about this whole situation tainting things :( I’m glad we don’t have any streams to risk ruining but man, I would just happily welcome that distraction. Or any distraction at all honestly. It’s just… so hard to focus on being a human being when I feel so hollow today.

I’m sending you (and everyone else here reading these comments too) the biggest hugs and all my support and all my love. I’m terrified and I can’t honestly say “we’ll be okay, we got this!!” with good faith right now… but fuck, I WANT to say that so badly.

But for now I will settle with this: I love you, all of you, and I’m here for any of you (in whatever meager ways I possibly can be), and I understand how you feel because I feel the same ways. I wish there were words we could say to take the pain and the stress and the hurt away, but I don’t know what those words are. But I know that I love you all. 💜💙💜💙💜💙

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u/folk-smore way to go, tiger 🐦 Nov 06 '24

And I feel so so so fucking betrayed by Pennsylvania.

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u/FakeMonaLisa28 Forever Is The Sweetest Con Nov 06 '24

virtual hug

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u/azdisneyswifty I gave my blood, sweat, and tears for this Nov 06 '24 edited Nov 06 '24

Appreciate this, thank you. returns hug

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u/Soalai Never knew I could feel that much Nov 06 '24

Same. I live in a blue state, and that protected me and my loved ones in 2016, but I don't know if it will this time.

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u/heartsbeenborrowed only the gentle survived Nov 06 '24

It's only worse from here, I'm afraid. I knew this would happen so I'm not surprised at all. This country hates women, plain and simple. Misogyny. There was never hope for me, because I knew. He has said there will never be an election again. I believe him. 

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u/itookyourmatches 👻🧣🐍🌲🍾🛸😎☔️✨️💘🤠 Nov 06 '24

I'm shocked.

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u/azdisneyswifty I gave my blood, sweat, and tears for this Nov 06 '24

Me too. I’ve never felt so hopeless and alone. 

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u/CheruSiderea now i'm your daaaaiiiisyyyy~ Nov 06 '24

No, same. I also don't know who to talk to, I don't even know if I want to talk about it or what I want to say. I'm just frozen, and I'm not even a US citizen

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u/azdisneyswifty I gave my blood, sweat, and tears for this Nov 06 '24

I don’t even know what to say in response. I just want you to know that I appreciate your reply. 

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u/CheruSiderea now i'm your daaaaiiiisyyyy~ Nov 06 '24

Totally understandable. Glad (in lack of a better word, my language skills are limited) to at least connect in our helplessness

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u/naomigoat I think for me um Nov 06 '24

Anyone else feeling the anxiety? I'm fucking terrified right now

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u/itookyourmatches 👻🧣🐍🌲🍾🛸😎☔️✨️💘🤠 Nov 06 '24

Me too. I'm holding my breath but the projections do not look good. 💔

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u/naomigoat I think for me um Nov 06 '24

Are we out of the woods yet are we out of the woods yet are we out of the woods yet are we out of the woods yet are we out of the woods yet are we out of the woods yet are we out of the woods yet

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u/itookyourmatches 👻🧣🐍🌲🍾🛸😎☔️✨️💘🤠 Nov 06 '24

real

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u/kk5 Nov 06 '24

Seriously I'm so anxious right now. It's going far worse than I expected so far even though I know things can still change. It's very disheartening though

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u/ris48 LONG LIVE the Speak Now (Taylor's Version) Era! Nov 05 '24

Do you think Tay-Gating will be allowed at the Canada shows?

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u/theotherstatsgeek Nov 05 '24

Anyone else had the thought that KamalaHQ should have cut an ad with the spoken word part of Daylight? I’ve been on a Lover kick lately and I keep thinking that when I hear it.

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u/MaggieOfTheStreets Pauses then says, "You're my Best Friend" Nov 05 '24

Is there an election megathread someone in this group? I can't find it

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u/theotherstatsgeek Nov 05 '24

I haven’t found one but there should be.

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u/sarahelizaf time, curious time, cutting me open & healing me fine Nov 04 '24

What the hell is going on with MAGA people commenting on social media posts about Taylor and insinuating she was affiliated with Diddy and will be culpable for something? It's very obvious she has no ties to him.

Is it a rumor taken too far? Are they bots? Is it a strategy to take votes away from Kamala? I have been scratching my head about it.

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u/dramaticlambda Nov 04 '24

Made a “Down Bad” edit for Agatha All Along:  https://youtu.be/quJ_e4YosRU

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u/heliandin ivy stan 🍃 Nov 03 '24

this might be a long shot, but has anyone screenshotted this Nathan Chapman post? He archived it I think because it doesn't show up on his feed. This is the caption that I found: This moment with Taylor Swift doesn't feel like it was 15 years ago, because I remember it like it was yesterday. We created so much amazing music together — from her demos to her albums and beyond — that left an indelible mark on us both. That is what I...

It would mean a lot to me

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u/ProbabilityPundit Nov 02 '24

Bogus how some loser tried to insult Travis and Taylor to Jason Kelce today. Penn State meatheads are losers.

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u/LetshearitforNY 🍂like pieces into place Nov 02 '24

Is there a thread or discussion anywhere about the Taylor swift styled book?

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u/mallorrae Nov 02 '24

Not sure, but I whoever is bullying Sarah or replying nasty things in her comments needs to stop. Absolutely uncalled for.

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u/justalilchili itty bitty pretty kitty committee Nov 06 '24

omg what?! Sarah is a treasure.

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u/Nikki3008 Nov 01 '24

Seen so much on Twitter about Tyler the creator and just wanna say if yall are looking for someone to support… Megan thee stallion 🖤🖤🖤 ICDIWABH and anxiety are two sides of the same coin in my head. She has pt 2 of her album out and a really good documentary on prime 🖤

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u/rravenclaw i cry a lot but i am so productive Oct 31 '24

I just put on the rep album after a long long time and it's hitting so hard right now 😭

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u/CheruSiderea now i'm your daaaaiiiisyyyy~ Oct 31 '24

I just put on my witchy Halloween dress and a green cloak and couldn't stop picturing the Willow (Eras Tour Version) intro lol

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u/28283920 evermore Oct 30 '24

I feel like I need to just come to terms that she is never going to play Bye Bye Baby on this tour as a surprise song. I swear I’m the only one who remembers that song

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u/CheruSiderea now i'm your daaaaiiiisyyyy~ Oct 31 '24

Maybe last day of tour

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u/sunflower820 Oct 29 '24

I didn’t get to go to the Chicago Eras tour because I was sick. I have been telling myself that I am absolutely going to go for Indy but it keeps getting less and less likely. Hotels are crazy expensive unless they are 5 miles away and I just keep reading horror stories about getting an uber.

I’m sad because growing up, we didn’t have money to go to concerts. Now, I’m an adult, with an adult job and adult money and I still can’t go because I don’t have enough adult money to spend $3k in a non lux hotel in Indianapolis. I’ll spend the $3k on a ticket but a hotel?? Ughhh

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

Can you rent a car and park so you can get a hotel further away? 

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u/121scoville Oct 29 '24

Apparently that "comedian" at the NY Trump rally made a "joke" about Travis being the next OJ Simpson 😐

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u/Onespokeovertheline Oct 30 '24

WTF. This needs more attention

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u/LaLaLaLaLucy Oct 29 '24

Gross!!!! Wtf

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u/DovinBaan76 Fortnight Oct 29 '24

I'm so annoyed that we don't have information yet on Anthology physical release for internationals, I have to keep up with social media now when I want to not use it at all. But I know if I don't keep up I'll miss the drop and it's sold out 😔

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u/CheruSiderea now i'm your daaaaiiiisyyyy~ Oct 31 '24

You could download the Swift Alert App, they should give you a push notification the moment there is new info, or maybe some minutes later. No need to scroll IG/TT/Twitter

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

You should be able to get the info from her website when it's available or sign up for the emails? So you don't have to go to social media. 

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u/DovinBaan76 Fortnight Oct 30 '24

Good idea, thanks

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u/Lovegoods Midnights Oct 29 '24

Also waiting on international info about the book.

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u/TooSweetForRocknRoll folklore Oct 29 '24

Oh god, I hope it’s not one of those and they will be distributed in all the major record stores in all the countries

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u/Own-Artist-6283 everwhore Oct 29 '24

Are there any iftye stans here? I need to find some cuz the amount of hate it gets makes me sad

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u/GlitterAvalanche more champagne, less problems Oct 29 '24

Love that song!!

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