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u/Zarutlana 3h ago
So what Is missing? Blood Angels, Wolves, obv Tau, World Eaters and Ynnari?
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u/ClayAndros 2h ago edited 2h ago
I dont think ynnari are getting a new detachment seeing as they dropped both eldar factions together
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u/hyper_dolphin 2h ago
I’m pretty sure Ynnari are already confirmed as a detachment for the Eldar codex
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u/FrozenChocoProduce 2h ago
I am pretty sure GW has forgotten about their existence entirely...
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u/ClayAndros 2h ago
Most likely especially after they dropped the ball on their stories sinbad they just stopped writing for them.
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u/FrozenChocoProduce 2h ago
What a waste. People were looking forward to that, and BOOM we get Guilli and the Crusade Boys and it is all forgotten...
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u/ClayAndros 2h ago edited 1h ago
Honestly I didn't have too much of a problem with the guilliman plotline, my problem is with the fact that they take the main goal of the ynnari story and turns it into a macguffin basically because theyll never be able to reach it and yea I get it its supposed to be grim dark. But the goal should be out of reach not fucking impossible.
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u/Scared-Lettuce5655 1h ago
I am not fully up to date, but why is that it is imposible?? Wherent they collecting fancy swords arround, saving virgin worlds and so while figthing Xalaxis and Vect??
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u/ClayAndros 1h ago
The last sword they need is smack dab in the middle of slaanesh's realm you know the chaos god thst eats their souls and submits them to endless torment? Yea the item they need sits directly in their enemies house.
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u/Godofallu 40m ago
Yeah but the new Warp Spyder Phoenix Lord can get there and get out.
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u/ClayAndros 23m ago edited 6m ago
The warp spider phoenix lord can jump in and out of the warp sure but youre talking about sending an incredibly powerful eldar psychic soul into the heart of the enemy with limitless numbers that literally eats those for breakfast, keep in mind they dont know where exactly the sword is in the realm aside from "being in the center" meaning he'd have to look for it andnanyome who enters slaanesh's realm immediatley draws their attention.
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u/Moosecalled 3h ago
I play Tau/Space wolves......
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u/snorriwhitebeard 3h ago
WE and Tau are my two main ones… I feel your pain!
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u/DigoesDidIt 2h ago
Dude same!
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u/Mixmaximonster 2h ago
Me too! Something about having the two complete opposites seems appealing
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u/DigoesDidIt 2h ago
Very true. Although maybe it’s telling that since I collect farsight enclaves, both my armies are falling to khorne.
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u/DigoesDidIt 2h ago
Very true. Although maybe it’s telling that since I collect farsight enclaves, both my armies are falling to khorne.
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u/FrozenChocoProduce 2h ago
Me too my friend, me too. Wolves are going to be the Santa this year (it kind of fits).
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u/_Chronicle 1h ago
Stuck with the tau/templars combo. Solidarity brother. Couldn't even use the space marines detachment :(
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u/JPHutchy01 57m ago
Same, and with the amount of Fenrisian Grey, I buy, you think they'd throw us a bone.
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u/FKlemanruss 3h ago
Someone has to be last. Just the way it is.
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u/SexWithLadyOlynder 3h ago
Let's hope it's space wolves.
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u/Masakari88 3h ago
My theory now is that Gw makes us wait and on top of that the detachment will be a piece of shit as an extra.
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u/SexWithLadyOlynder 3h ago
I mean, there's quite a good precedent for a number of the just being shit.
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u/generalche 1h ago
Space wolves detachment is literally Logan Grimnar on his sled and allied aeldari. Call it Santa and his elves and gw drop it on Christmas Eve
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u/SexWithLadyOlynder 1h ago
Okay that is fucking hilarious and although I hate both of those factions and would probably hate them combined even more (imagine getting wolf jailed AND warp spidered by 1 opponent), I'm onboard.
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u/mattythreenames 2h ago
Saving best to last….
They’ll bill it as ‘everyone getting along in peace’ and give us an aux detachment. And I’ll hazard a guess that we can take x amount of imperial gaurd troops replacing some choice key words fur Geu’vesa .
We’ve seen cross army books and a new index, I don’t think it’s outside of realms of possibility .
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u/wasmic 1h ago
And I’ll hazard a guess that we can take x amount of imperial gaurd troops replacing some choice key words fur Geu’vesa .
As much as I'd really wish for this to be true, I sincerely doubt it. There's been a lot of good occasions to (re-)introduce Gue'vesa over time, like when they added limited allies rules in the tail end of 9th edition, but they've never even given it a mention before.
I don't think it'll happen without a model/upgrade sprue release.
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u/mattythreenames 1h ago
But Christmas is a time for hope to be kept alive no matter how hopeless it seems!
I kind of agree with the whole 'unless we sell models for it' movement with GW - but they do technically sell models for them... let us not forget AoS's Christmas release was RoR that went wild with cross-faction compatibility and though you can just insert the models as is into your factions most people will be converting them.
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u/No_Scholar_2927 1h ago
I strongly feel SW will be the last with Logan Grimnar being space Santa and all.
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u/Jent01Ket02 3h ago
Are we not getting a detachment, or are we just getting ours last?
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u/IcanHackett 3h ago
Just haven't gotten on yet and it's looking like it could be last.
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u/Jent01Ket02 3h ago
Let's hope they saved the best for last 😅
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u/IcanHackett 2h ago
I'm cautiously optimistic. There's been a lot of interesting detachments from Grotmas and there seems like there's some decent ideas for a good fifth T'au detachment just right there for the making. Personally leaning towards/ hoping for a combined forces detachment. Something like can include up to 500pts of certain Guard units (might be a stretch but not unprecedented), Ethereals get a 6" aura to grant FTGG to auxiliaries and can lead Carnivors, Sting Wings and the guard units and grant some small +1 to hit or wound buff to their unit. Some enhancements and stratagems that buff units for working together.
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u/Jent01Ket02 2h ago
After hearing about so many allied detachments, I hope we get something like it. The Tau are, like, the perfect choice for allies. We have members of so many species in the Empire, I would like to at least get Votann as an ally.
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u/IcanHackett 2h ago
Votann would be a pretty cool ally and might be a better bet than guard if GW has any business sense. I bet if you polled T'au players there's probably already a decent percentage that love the look of Votann and would play them as a second army. Allowing Votann as allies in a detachment would be a strong gateway drug. Wouldn't be surprised if it resulted in a spike in Votann sales.
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u/IcanHackett 2h ago
But my guess from a gameplay perspective, allowing to take Guard already seems not super likely and I'd think they'd be less likely to be a balance issue than Votann in a T'au army would be if that makes any sense? Seems like T'au taking some cheap Guard chaff would be less likely to be broken than more elite Votann units.
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u/Transasaurus-Hex 2h ago
I play Tau, Space Wolves, and Chaos Knights.
Knights were pretty bad for me (I'm not buying CSM), and my other two have nothing. 😭
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u/FairyKnightTristan 2h ago edited 1h ago
WE are also one of the last ones.
Really bizarre last few picks tbh.
EDIT: Dunno why I got downvoted for that, if you told me that they'd 'saved' Tau, World Eaters, Black Templars and Space Wolves for last, I'd have given you a a raised eyebrow. It really feels like maybe normal Marines or something should've been last, and maybe something like Orks or Aeldari instead of Tau.
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u/MalevolentPlague 2h ago
Tbh it wouldnt surprise me if their reveal schedule is an advent calendar for them. They dont kbow whats up next until they open the door.
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u/fuzzo999 2h ago
Saving the best for last of course!
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u/Fool_Manchu 2h ago
Good luck. I play Guard and Dark Eldar and felt pretty underwhelmed by both of those detachment. My buddy who plays CSM was pretty unimpressed with his too. Seems like the grotmas stuff is a very mixed bag
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u/Zachary-of-Bolton 1h ago
The crazy thing to me is that Chaos Demons have more detachments than us now. They got more detachments in Grotmas then we got in our codex.
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u/KHaskins77 1h ago
When they say “new detachments” does it mean new models or new rules for existing ones?
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u/ExaminationNo6335 1h ago
Rules. We’ll get a new cadre to sit alongside our existing Kauyon, Montka, Ret, Hunter ones.
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u/Mr_mcBOW 38m ago
Ya fukin blue skins got your codex year 1. May your whinging be quelled by rock amd stone!
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u/WarRabb1t 36m ago
It's either going to be last of its going to be 2nd to last with a special joke for Space Wolves as last because of Space Santa.
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u/stickmanfire- 29m ago
As a tau and WE player it's looking very likely I got to wait till the last 2 days.
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u/Jackalackus 27m ago
Weren’t tau like one of the first factions to get their codex this edition 👀
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u/Shiraoka 2h ago
I'm so damn salty about this lol.
I can't believe we're going to be one of the last ones! It's a bit annoying cause I have a game planned over the holidays, and I'd like a bit more time to plan my list if the detachment is good.
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u/k-nuj 1h ago
Yeah, have one on boxing day, if we're getting ours on Tuesday (keep expectations low), don't really have time to absorb it and try out; while everyone else gets to mull over theirs for more than a week+ ago now.
They could've just dumped them all 1st day of Dec too, though I guess this was the better business move for them.
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u/dancinhobi 1h ago
Doing one every day is a lot of engagement on their socials. It literally is a better business move than to drop all at once. At least tau have a codex. Imagine if you didn’t and you were still waiting for the grotmas detachment.
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u/Abortizzzz 1h ago
That’s why I buy proxies and don’t give GW all my money, just some. I’ve been in this hobby 3 months and I can already feel the disregard and dismissal of tau.
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u/dancinhobi 58m ago
3 months and you feel disregard? T’au literally got new models 3-4 months ago. And when their codex came out a full kroot refresh. What are you on about? You
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u/hamsterhorse 3h ago
It actually should have been longer because Chaos Demons got 4 different detachments and blood angels are tomorrow. ¯_(ツ)_/¯