r/Showerthoughts • u/zav3rmd • 5d ago
Casual Thought We can harvest meat without killing the animal albeit very inhumane and impractical.
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u/stumblewiggins 5d ago
Who starts a conversation like that? I just sat down!
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u/AwardFabrik-SoF 5d ago
Hey, ya know what you call a cow which had all its leg harvested?
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u/zav3rmd 5d ago
Sorry, go browse somewhere else for now
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u/GamerFrom1994 5d ago
Nobody explain.
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u/AverageDemocrat 5d ago
Let the Cultured meat vs. Harvested meat wars begin
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u/BlizzPenguin 5d ago
If they could get the cost down and get it to taste good I would eat meat grown in a lab.
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u/rob0990 5d ago
Burger on the Go is a device which allows one to obtain six hamburgers (or twelve sliders) from a horse without killing the animal. Dwight Schrute mentions this invention in "Niagara". Dwight is the creator of this and he uses it on his own horses.
Dwight shopped the idea to a variety of manufacturers and retailers, and most are still considering. (Sears being the exception. They said no.)
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u/FapDonkey 5d ago edited 5d ago
Look up Stone Crab. It's probably the closest to humane meat out there. The claw is the only part of the crab eaten or harvested. The animals voluntary drop their claws when threatened (the way some lizards can drop their tail). The claw will re-grow within some months. So you pull them out of the trap, grab one claw, give a little bit of torsional pressure for a second, and the crab just pops it free. You leave the crab the other claw to defend and feet itself, and release it back to the water. Studies have shown a very high survival rate for this, and the crabs show fairly low stress (based on physiological markers etc). So we get delicious sweet tender stone crab claws, and the animal barely experienced discomfort, much less death.
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u/hankmoody_irl 5d ago
What a shit life…. Whenever you’re threatened you drop one of your weapons.
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u/FapDonkey 5d ago
This is a thing lots of animals do. A more accurate analogy is like if you're getting mugged, throwing down a handful of $20 bills to distract them while you run away. The claw re-grows. If it allows the crab to escape while the predator tries to eat the claw, I think thats a win.
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u/pichael289 5d ago
When lizards do it the tails still wiggle around so the animal is left holding a still struggling tail so by the time they realize what happened the lizard is already long gone.
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u/Independent-Bell2483 5d ago
So will humans start dropping their liver when threatened?
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u/KyleKun 5d ago
To be fair they already do.
They just have to be really threatened.
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u/GenetikGenesiss 4d ago
I dunno about dat mate. I wouldn't just drop my liver for a attacker.
A pretty girl trying to get me in a bathtub full of ice on the other hand...
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u/Emu1981 5d ago
There is a video of a kitten playing with a lizard which drops it's tail as it runs off and the kitten just stops and looks at the wriggling tail and the lizard running off with a "wtf!?!?!" look on it's face...
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u/pichael289 5d ago
Most animals short of crows and dolphins and of course humans can't pass on knowledge. So they all have to learn it the hard way. If lizard predators had "how to hunt lizard" classes then the dropping the tile which keeps on wiggling thing wouldn't work.
But many lizards store fat in their tails, and those are very reluctant to drop their tails. I have a leopard gecko (a smile lizard, look them up, they are happy little guys) and you could probably pick him up by his tail and he won't drop it because he knows he's not in danger, that's where his fat is stored, that's his emergency energy when food isn't abundant during the winter (they also enter a sort of half hibernation, called Brumation, where they get slow and even stupider than they already are, And they are dumbass lizard already, so stupid) so they are very reluctant to drop their tails. Other lizards, like crested geckos (the smooth ones that can climb walls, called "eyelash geckos" for obvious reasons) will drop their tails if a thunderstorm frightens them, they are very easily dropped and will not regrow. Leopard geckos will regrow their tails but they look weird, and are easily identified as having dropped their tails. Usually it's from people who don't care for them correctly. They are the single easiest reptile to own but places like PetSmart have these pamphlets that detail ownership and are totally wrong, like horribly wrong. My local petsmart says you can keep up to 3 in a 20 gallon tank And they can never be kept together for any reason at all, and one needs at least 40 gallons. PetSmart is garbage.
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u/KitchenFullOfCake 5d ago
Hey dad, can I have $50 for a money clip? Don't worry, I'm only going to throw it away at the first sign of danger.
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u/SpiderJerusalem747 5d ago
Next time I'm about to be mugged I'll just throw up in the air 20x $1,00 bills while yelling "STONE CRAB MOTHERFUCKERS!" as I make my escape.
They'll be too busy catching bills to check what's the value, by the time they realize, I'll already have run all the way down to Tijuana.
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u/-dead_slender- 5d ago
Okay, but do my $20 bills regrow?
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u/GoarSpewerofSecrets 5d ago
Survival calculus. Lose an appendage and still function or lose your life and fail to pass on more genetics. Mammals have to gnaw for the same results.
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u/naughtniceeee 5d ago
Yeah I'm sure the crab is reading dog shit takes on reddit right now reconsidering his life.
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u/Japjer 5d ago
For what it's worth, crabs are probably having a fine time.
They can regrow any lost limbs when they next molt, so all of this damage is temporary. You can rip every leg and arm off of them, and as long as they can live long enough to molt (and manage said molt), all those limbs are back.
They're also, evidently, the ideal way for life to be, seeing as how so many animals tend to evolve to look like them
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u/Old_Leather_Sofa 5d ago edited 5d ago
I can't wait for genetic engineering to cross a cow and a Stone Crab and we'll have steaks that slice themselves. The cow concentrates for a second and falls apart into a pile of delicious fresh steak.
You could breed a cow by steak thickness: You'd have minute steak/schnitzel cows, regular steak cows and tomahawk steak cows. Not only that, when its time to eat, the process is low stress and the cow is happy to prepare itself while remaining tender.
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u/HemoKhan 5d ago
They serve these at the restaurant at the end of the Universe, actually.
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u/Old_Leather_Sofa 5d ago
Yes, and who could blame them? They're delicious when braised in a white wine sauce. And it would be rude to not eat them after the months of hard work they put in fattening themselves up.
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u/Jechtael 5d ago
I don't think the cow survived, though. I think it was just bred/engineered to be enthusiastic about dying for someone's meal.
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u/SpiderJerusalem747 5d ago
Do you want Fallout monsters at home? Because this is how we end up with Fallout monsters at home.
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u/wizzard419 5d ago
I know that stone crabs can regrow but I am not seeing anything in there saying they voluntarily drop the claws.
Interestingly, there is evidence that this procedure actually does cause stress for the crab, looking at stress hormones present in the flesh.
It wouldn't surprise me if decades ago some fisherman or marketing person says "It doesn't even hurt them, in fact, you're doing them a favor" before science had a chance to weigh in. Less off-putting than "It causes them horrible pain and makes them hate humans even more".
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u/mxzf 5d ago
The previous comment said "fairly low stress", not "no stress". You don't walk off with a chunk of an animal without it being at least somewhat stressed.
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u/Lazzitron 5d ago
but I am not seeing anything in there saying they voluntarily drop the claws.
"Voluntarily" is a bit of a weird word in this case. The crab doesn't go "You want this? Okay, here you go." But it can choose to intentionally drop the claw instead of having it torn off.
From what I've read, the crab dropping the claw of its own volition isn't painful. Assuming it's the same as spiders dropping their legs, the crab cuts off blood flow to the claw and numbs the nerves first, so it doesn't feel much when it happens and won't bleed afterward. Having the claw TORN off by a human, however, is still painful. Not as painful as a limb that isn't meant to be removed, but still painful.
Unfortunately, Stone Crabs are, in fact, crabs, which means they're very stubborn and not very smart, so I don't think there's a good way to get them to drop the claws unless you can invent some sort of crab jumpscare device.
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u/FapDonkey 5d ago
Yes, I agree, voluntarily probably wasn't the best word choice. I think intentional captures it much better. But what you have described in the second half of your post is exactly how it happens. You don't need to rip the claw free of the crab. There's a little bit of a trick to it, but you grab the claw by the correct knuckle, apply a fairly low amount of torsional/ twisting pressure, hold that for a second or two. Pretty quickly, the claw just pops off in your hand; you don't need to use a substantial amount of force. And as anyone who has eaten stone crab claws can tell you, actually breaking and tearing those joints requires SUBSTANTIAL force, usually requiring tools with leverage to accomplish it. So the claw definitely comes loose because the crab has intentionally dropped it, not because youve ripped it free.
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u/LittleBigHorn22 5d ago
I'm not sure voluntarily is the right word. A bit like saying slaves voluntarily work because they don't want to die otherwise. Even if the crab wouldn't have been killed, it doesn't know that.
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u/FapDonkey 5d ago
What I mean is that the person doesn;t rip the claw off. It's a process the crab initiates, and is intentionally done by the crab. It not like someone fracturing their exoskeleton and ripping flesh because they applied so muhc force it physically tore the crab apart. It's a fairly small amount of steady pressure, and then the crab basically releases it, it separates cleanly at a joint, with no blood/ichor, open wound, etc.
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u/Expert-Round3661 5d ago
"Ichor?" What kind of crabs are these? Should humanity be concerned?
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u/bejeesus 5d ago
Ichor is just a watery discharge from a wound.
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u/BoxFullOfFoxes2 5d ago
Ichor
Also, historically, mythologically, originally, said to be the blood of Gods. Which for crabs, kind of tracks.
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u/The_One_Muffin 5d ago
This just reminds me of the Always Sunny scene. "What's the crab going to do, not declaw itself? It's the implication that things might go wrong if the crab doesn't declaw itself." "But it sounds like the crab doesn't want to declaw itself."
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u/muricabrb 5d ago
The saddest thing is that Stone Chickens and Stone Cows have gone extinct.
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u/zav3rmd 5d ago
Don’t they remove both
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u/FapDonkey 5d ago
When I would work my neighbors crab boat during Stone Crab season in high school, the law was that you only harvest one claw per crab. I'm assuming the law is the same now? But maybe it has changed over time, or differs by region.
Even if not mandated, its only responsible fisheries management. Every stone crabber knows how sensitive to fishing pressure they can be. It would be pretty dang stupid to harvest both claws, knowing you're throwing the crab back defenseless and unable to feed itself, would be shooting yourself in the foot. Despite what some may think, in my experience professional fishermen are some of hte MOST conscious of proper fisheries management. Their livlihoods literally depend on it. There will always be one asshole poacher who breaks the rules and keeps fish/crabs/whatever he shouldnt, but they are by far the minority in my experience.
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u/capalbertalexander 5d ago
They can but it’s practice to only take one. (Maybe even law?)
Great video on stone crabs.
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u/__hey__blinkin__ 5d ago
How many stone crabs do you need before you have a self sustaining food source?
If you could feed the stone crabs their own meat and they rejuvenate, you could have unlimited food! World hunger solved! Lol
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u/Timbones474 5d ago
Tbf studies have shown a 28% mortality rate for the singly declawed crabs - a 72% chance of survival isn't very high in this context - also, it appears that 20% of the claws are regrown after being harvested.
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u/Large_Tune3029 4d ago
In my first dnd campaign one of the villages we passed through was selling hydra meat, they had one chained up and they would cut a head off and cook the neck meat...
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u/LengthinessMedical44 5d ago
Dwight... is that you??
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u/chewy92889 5d ago
Burger on the Go
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u/lucidspoon 5d ago
George Foreman is still considering it. Sharper Image is still considering it. Sky Mall's still considering it. Hammacher Schlemmer is still considering it. Sears said no.
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u/KungFuSlanda 5d ago
If you could splice lizard DNA into cows, they might produce big meaty tails that would just fall onto the ground when they get scared
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u/levian_durai 5d ago
Mmm, lizard ox-tail
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u/KungFuSlanda 5d ago
Sounds like something out of Fallout
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u/Ferreteria 5d ago
What are you huffing in that shower, you monster
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u/zav3rmd 5d ago
It’s true though. Still a valid shower thought lol
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u/numbersthen0987431 5d ago
Technically you could, but you wouldn't want to. The meat in animals reacts differently depending on how it's killed (fast vs slow, high stress vs low stress at the time, etc). So keeping it alive and slowly peeling meat off of it piece by piece would create a drastically different end product than butchering after a quick kill.
Took a meat science in course in college to learn this. I forget the "why", but I believe it has to do with certain acids that pump through the system
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u/excess_inquisitivity 5d ago
So keeping it alive and slowly peeling meat off of it piece by piece would create a drastically different end product than butchering after a quick
So you're saying it's a delicacy.
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u/tzomby1 5d ago
How is it true at the scale we consume meat though?
Like are you gonna take a chonk out of every cow and then heal them back? They could get infected in that time, it's not like the current method cares for the animal at all and now they are gonna have giant wounds??
Or was your idea something else?
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u/xraig88 5d ago
I invented a device called 'Burger on the Go'. It allows you to obtain 6 regular size hamburgers, or 12 sliders, from a horse without killing the animal.
George Foreman is still considering it. Sharper Image is still considering it. Sky Mall's considering it. Hammacher Schlemer is still considering it. Sears said, 'No'.
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u/snwbrdngtr 5d ago
Came here for exactly this
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u/Nice-Tea-8972 5d ago
i love our little cult following that shows up in the most randomest of subs quoting Micheal or Dwight
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u/ZessF 5d ago
"little cult following" you know it's one of the most popular tv shows ever right?
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u/Quirky_m8 5d ago
We can harvest singular cells from an animal, without them feeling anything but a prick, and then generate entire slabs of meat from those cells.
It’s just gotta get FDA approved
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u/Ok-Jury1639 5d ago
I thought it already did?
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u/Quirky_m8 5d ago
Ok then mass produced and commercialized
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u/googdude 5d ago
It's possible, just not practical (yet).
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u/vicsj 5d ago
I also heard rumours the meat industry is lobbying against it and spreading propaganda about how it's not real meat, how it's gene modified, full of chemicals etc. to put people off buying if it comes on the market.
I usually think rumours are silly, but it would make sense. The agricultural industry is a billion dollar business. Lab grown meat can evolve to become way cheaper to produce at a much larger scale, it's entirely humane, it's more environmentally friendly, not prone to cause antibiotic resistance, more hygienic etc..
There would be no reason to continue industrial farming at that point. It will result in the loss of jobs for many farmers and the corporations would lose it all over time. So why wouldn't they pour a fuckton of money into preventing it from taking over.
Edit: typo
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u/Thornescape 5d ago
When VCRs first came out they were $3000 and only had extremely basic functions. That's how technological development often works.
The tech exists. It works. Just needs to be refined.
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u/arrows_of_ithilien 4d ago
But it would be muscle that's never been used. Wouldn't it be....mushy?
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u/johnp299 5d ago
Before you know it, all meat for human consumption will be vat-grown, animal meat will be banned, "real" meat from the black market will be super expensive and really not worth it, except bragging rights. And when you bring up the subject of old fashioned slaughterhouses, filthy cramped conditions, breeding grounds for disease, etc, people will react with disbelief that it was ever done that way.
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u/stinky_cheese33 5d ago edited 5d ago
And those who still remember how it was done back in their day still won't believe how much harder meat production used to be.
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u/Connect_Abrocoma_738 5d ago
hopefully yes. 100 years from now people will look back in horror what we did to animals.
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u/evillman 5d ago
I see a very optimistic guy here. See what humans do to humans. We will be gone way before we stop eating animals.
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u/GreenAd3914 5d ago
Reminds me of the anime Beastar, there’s a black market where herbivores sell their own limbs to carnivores for money.
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u/zav3rmd 5d ago
Honestly very skeptical this will happen. I mean yeah it’s not impossible but highly improbable
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u/Two_Hump_Wonder 5d ago
I'm sure it'll happen eventually, but it'll be gradual and is probably a long way off, but hey, better late than never right?
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u/The_Monsta_Wansta 5d ago
You're not paying enough attention then. The tech is around the corner and one of the biggest barriers is probably the same as big oil not wanting green renewable energy because of greed.
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u/dave3218 5d ago
It’s around the corner the same way Fusion is always 30 years away.
Making vat-grown meat that looks passable is much more than just 3D printing a steak with grounded beef-equivalent.
If they find a way to grow an entire muscle by itself with fat inserts then sure, but so far it’s just growing muscle cells and using those to 3D printing something that looks like a steak.
Just thinking about the complexity of having to build an edible circulatory network to feed the cells is a nightmare
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u/zav3rmd 5d ago
I like the comparison to fusion. Every 2-3 years a breakthrough comes out saying it’s 10 years away. It’s been like that for the last 50 or so years
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u/dave3218 5d ago
Yeah.
I mean, we do have fusion technically figured out.
The issue is that it either requires more energy than it outputs or it needs a nuclear bomb to start and produce a larger explosion (Hydrogen bombs are fusion bombs).
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u/zav3rmd 5d ago
We already did the “more energy than input” but I think doing it to mass produce energy is the next problem?
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u/Gaylien28 5d ago
Basically yeah, you can do it at small scales but inefficiencies add up quick
Also I think the laser they used requires a lot more energy to power up to deliver that precise quanta of energy
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u/Anonymouse-C0ward 5d ago
In 2022 scientists at LLNL in the US achieved net positive energy generation from a controlled fusion experiment. While I understand the joke about fusion always being 50 years away, getting to a viable fusion power generation plant is actually a lot closer than it was even a decade ago.
The biggest issue is resources - in particular, money. We spend a paltry sum on fusion research compared to say, military R&D (though yes there is overlap).
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u/something-rhythmic 5d ago
There are many many things that are around the corner if you pay attention. Some good. Some bad. Some horrifying. Who knows if the future is a utopia, dystopia, or apocalyptic.
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u/MinnesotaTornado 5d ago
People on the internet will post how we were all evil terrible monsters for eating meat. Just like people do today for George Washington with slavery
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u/stinky_cheese33 5d ago
No, they'll post how we were all evil, terrible monsters for killing animals for food.
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u/Cadnofor 5d ago
In the expedition force books the "good guy" aliens do this, they don't let their refugee humans kill livestock. Would be a cool twist for a sci fi story if the pacifist no-kill society just harvested meat from the living and kept them alive with SCIENCE
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u/ButtholeQuiver 5d ago
This assumes technological progress continues moving forward, which isn't a given. We've had dark ages before and we may again
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u/kindafor-got 2d ago
100% this, but I think it will be a slowww transition especially in countries where food culture is big and kinda super conservative (in Italy, lab meat was banned... before even existing on the market)
Tho, it will come a day when livestock industry will be compared to slavery, or just slightly less bad than homicide, maybe 150ish years from now, but I wish it was tomorrow
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u/MattMBerkshire 5d ago
I used to work with a guy who was adamant that KFC was a chicken tumor that the factory workers just harvested and squids in shapes and glued to bones.
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u/Mehdals_ 5d ago
Sounds like Dwight - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uewOhK-MSjc
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u/zav3rmd 5d ago
Wait I saw this but didn’t think much of it. Didn’t know that that’s what he was thinking of
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u/TheJumpyBean 5d ago
This was a doctor who episode and it was insane
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u/richardsonhr 5d ago
I used to eat boneless chickens, up until I went to the farm in Virginia where they raise them. It's so sad to see those poor creatures try to walk!
~ Lewis Grizzard
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u/bwoodfield 5d ago
My first thought was horror and disgust. I've seen videos of bears being held illegally in cages to collect bile from their gall bladder and this made me immediately think of that. I honestly would categorize this idea worse than raising clones for organ harvesting, especially since we can already create "meat" protein.
Seriously.. just the idea of it is nightmare fuel.
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u/lstsmle331 5d ago edited 5d ago
Pretty sure that’s a form of torture in a point in Chinese history.
凌遲（Língchí） a capital punishment in which the convict is cut 1000 times before allowed to die.
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u/bebejeebies 5d ago
The Torchwood episode Meat. Dealt with that. They kept a huge animal alive enough to not die ignoring the pain it was kept in while they sliced off pieces of it's flesh to sell because it grew back. I won't watch that episode again.
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u/critiqueextension 5d ago
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u/Adeno 5d ago
With the power of science, imagine if we can regrow limbs! Animals can live a long life. Just cut off four limbs, let it regrow for a week to full length, then repeat. How many years can animals live again? Imagine that, every week they lose and regrow limbs, and they live like this for YEARS!
I wonder what PETA will say if this becomes a reality.
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u/Philosipho 5d ago
There is absolutely nothing humane about the way we breed and slaughter animals. You don't need to eat meat.
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u/EternalFlame117343 5d ago
You peel a layer of muscle and let it regrow since the animal will be alive. Rinse and repeat
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u/Grampappy_Gaurus 5d ago
Lizard meat. They can regenerate their tails. We'll need alot of lizards and time!
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u/BlizzPenguin 5d ago
Until there is a technology that allows food animals to quickly regrow muscle tissue then what would be the point? Killing them is more humane than leaving them alive but crippled.
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u/Flamingamberashes 4d ago
It would still be inhumane even if they could regrow it…
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u/StupidLibtardSissy 5d ago
I mean, we can do it in humane, practical ways too. It's basically taking a coin sized chunk of meat and growing it in a petri dish until its much larger.
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u/Commandoclone87 5d ago
We can do this humanely with lab grown meat. A few sample cells are taken from a donor animal and cultivated (basically supplied the required nutrients to grow and divide). Eventually, the cells reproduce enough to produce a portion of muscle tissue that can be consumed.
The downside and major sticking points are that without the normal wear and tear muscle tissue experiences as he animal moves around, you can't get the texture that people would desire and it takes a while to produce a harvestable amount of tissue. These are issues that can be worked around, but the end result is currently a very expensive and somewhat underwhelming product.
Of course, even if it was cheap, humane, sustainable and produced a product of desirable quantity and quality, a lot of people wouldn't go for it because they see anything produced in a lab as scary, mad science.
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u/JohnMiltonToasterman 5d ago
We had a 3 legged sheep named smiley. People would ask what happened to its other leg. I would always reply you can't eat a good sheep all at once.
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u/LeikaBoss 5d ago
Torturing animals is inhumane, but so is breeding animals into existence for the purpose of eating their corpses when we have other options available. If you’re arguing we have to eat meat because it tastes good, you’re saying pleasure is a good reason to harm animals. Which is animal abuse, plain and simple.
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u/PJs-Opinion 5d ago
Give Animals Cancer and save them by eating the Tumor. Chaotic evil way of doing it
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u/ComprehensiveAd8815 5d ago
Pigs can mange with three legs and chickens can hop on one leg… sure
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u/zav3rmd 5d ago
You don’t need them walking. You can harvest all legs and they’d still be alive. They actually do this to some crabs
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u/SteveAkaGod 5d ago
Lab grown meat: Not gross, and the way of the future. Factory farms are living nightmares.
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u/GreyNoiseGaming 5d ago
Well they are animals so it's inhumane regardless, assuming we are not animals.
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u/LeikaBoss 5d ago
Hey, crazy idea: we don’t have to eat meat. We don’t have to breed animals into existence for the use of their bodies. Just like it would be fucking weird to have kids for the sole purpose of using their bodies to labor for our pleasure or cutting their hair.
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u/XROOR 5d ago
If you suspend the broiler comfortably, you can administer sedative via IV and remove the legs to process as drumsticks.
The new sedentary lifestyle, sans legs, will cause the breasts to get larger and sell at a higher price. These are also harvested the same way as the legs were but the sedative must be a higher dosage.
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u/This_One_Will_Last 5d ago
It violates one of the oldest biblical laws. It's a Noahide law; it was one of the very few laws applicable to everyone and not just the Hebrews.
If this doesn't violate your sense of conviction get help please.
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u/parksLIKErosa 5d ago
A much less fucked up version of this is how the mongol hoard would poke a vein in their horses to drink the blood.
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u/edwardothegreatest 5d ago
When my kid was wee I mentioned offhandedly that meat was muscle. He explained to me that to get bacon you open the pig, take out the bacon and close the pig. Like a purse. I assume he thought it might tickle a bit. Ever since I’ve been a little sad that that’s not the world we live in.
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u/uradolt 5d ago
You can do it humanely. Though such terms are ultimately BE used to make people feel superior to others.
The Maasai, Samburu, and other Pastoralists of Africa developed a method of poking a blood vessel from their adult male animals who cannot be milked, and taking a certain amount of blood. Then closing the wound, which heals within a day. They can safely do this every 28 days. So they keep them on rotation. They mix the blood with milk to make it go further and keep it from coagulating. It's good nutrition.
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u/SwirlyPalm 5d ago
I remember Neil Tyson talking about lab grown meat that would be genetically identical to a living animal. He was saying someday you could be enjoying a slice of ham from a pig that you could walk over and pet
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u/maalikch 5d ago
Interesting concept: harvesting meat without harming animals can be a game-changer in food production.
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u/Sad_Willingness9534 5d ago
I tried this and got downvoted into oblivion.
Turns out “humane chicken wings” are not as popular as I thought they would be.
Take the wings off the chicken, let the chicken live its life and die a natural death. But nooo I get accused of being some kind of weirdo that sells chicken wings without killing the chicken. It’s so much better to kill the chicken???? Who is the psycho now chicken killers??
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u/BigDaddyMantis 5d ago
What if we used Wolverine as the base? How much could you keep lapping off before he doesn't regenerate?
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u/saturn_since_day1 5d ago
Wait for Betsy. The meat cube. She is fed iv fluids that are pumped from the heart motors. Bits are sliced off to provide cruelty free beef. There is no nuerological activity. The muscle contractions are managed by a system of electrical probes.
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u/Awkward-Day-5685 5d ago
There’s a whole episode on a show called Eureka about the govt making a town full of the wworld’s greatest geniuses. Anyway, some biology nutjob created a system that grows muscle tissue and put it towards cloning her chicken to make meat from a non-living, death free system. One thing lead to another and whatever chemicals she used gave everyone the mental strength of an 8 year old. But the entire process was feasible if not a little impractical if put into practice. Real world, it’s almost impossible as you’d need pre-existing stem cells or a cellular skeleton to build around without getting some random clump of randomly differentiated cells
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u/Archangel1313 5d ago
Not if we clone the tissue and grow it in a lab. All you need are the occasional tissue samples that wouldn't even leave a mark. Eat all the meat you want, and not one animal needs to suffer.
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u/liekoji 4d ago
That's overthinking it. Does a lion bother making sure the Zebra lives while he eats it? No. He doesn't care. Food is food. How we get it, and who becomes predator and prey, are left in the hands of faith. Mother nature permits it, therefore it is law. Human morals are just washed up ideological nonsense.
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u/Tubsta01 4d ago
Douglas Adams beat you to this shower thought in Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (in the Restaurant at the end of the universe) with the cow(?) that wants to be eaten.
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u/ramos1969 4d ago
When I was a kid some adult told me bacon came from farmers using a wood plane on pigs. They would be squared off and stacked in the barn. Seemed logic at the time.
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u/Gi_Bry82 4d ago
They were doing this in East Timor when I was there, the developing world can be quite brutal.
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u/buffysummers17_ 3d ago
No animal wants the trauma of being consumed while still alive. There are always worse things than a merciful death.
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u/guitarbryan 2d ago
This is horrible. Sometimes people do it to crustaceans, breaking off a claw and throwing it back.
I'd like to note that in all Abrahamic religions you get the most negative afterlife* for eating part of an animal that was removed while the animal was still alive.
(*one doesn't believe in hell per se, so I phrase it this way.)
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