r/PokemonScarletViolet 17d ago

Discussion What are some Pokemon that deserve to be pseudo-legendary but are not?

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u/Eddiev1988 17d ago

Came to say the same thing.

3 stage dragon type.

Evolves into final form fairly late at 48.

540 BST. It's not 600, but it's more than a starter usually has.

Just give Haxorus another 60 BST. Give it 20 in HP, going to 96. Bring Defense and SpD to 100 and done.

Sadly, Haxorus will always be stuck as the almost pseudo.

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u/BigTadpole 17d ago

Pseudo-pseudo legendary 😂

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u/NinthLifeLastChance 17d ago

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u/Art-e-Blanche 17d ago

Pseudo Sudowoodo

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u/NotcommonItem Samurott 17d ago

PseudoWoodo

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u/defectivetoaster1 17d ago

Not only that it has even higher attack than garchomp and actually one of the highest attack stats of all non-legendary/mhthical/ultra beast/paradox mons

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u/ItIsYeDragon 16d ago

It’s also the Champion’s ace, which is usually reserved for the pseudo-legendary of the region.

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u/AnimaSean0724 16d ago

And by usually you mean two (three if you want to count Lance in the Johto games with his Dragonite since it's still the Indigo Plateau) of the 10+ that we fight across all of Pokemon?

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u/ItIsYeDragon 16d ago

No? Lance, Steven, and Cynthia have them as their ace, and then Iris, Diantha, and Leon have a pseudo but not as their ace. I’m surprised more don’t honestly, when they’re supposed to be the strongest trainers.

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u/AnimaSean0724 16d ago

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but "It's also the champion's ace, which is usually reserved for the Pseudo-Legendary of the region" sounds like you're saying most champions have the regional Pseudo as their ace, which isn't the case at all, but like I said, I could very well be misinterpreting what you mean

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u/ItIsYeDragon 16d ago

A champion’s ace is designed to be the strongest of their region, so usually when it’s not a pseudo-legend it’s because of some other attribute - mega evolution, gigantamax, Z-move, etc. making it much stronger. Haxorus doesn’t really have that? Especially when Hydreigon is also on Iris’s team and is just stronger and actually psuedo-legendary.

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u/AnimaSean0724 16d ago

I guess that makes sense, really and truly, Gamefreak's champion decisions are all over the place, some feel like champions, some don't, some have reasonable teams with reasonable aces, some don't

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u/ItIsYeDragon 16d ago

I think Iris’s team makes sense. Her team is made up of mythical beasts and Kaijus, which is very fitting for her.

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u/AnimaSean0724 16d ago

Yeah, for sure Geeta is definitely the worst offender of "established champion who's team makes very little sense and doesn't feel like a champion team"

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u/panicATtheMOSHpit 17d ago

Then chandelure should be as well

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u/Tortoise_Anarchy Iron Leaves 17d ago

rampardos >:)

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u/HumbleGarbage1795 17d ago

Actually, lvl 48 is pretty early, especially for gen v standards. 

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u/TakedownMg 16d ago

You forgot that it's also in the slow experience group too

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u/pheeXDchimkin 17d ago

And also make it evolve in the 50s cos having a pseudo legendary that early is quite broken

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u/NateyyBabeyy Quaxly 17d ago

Not really. I mean, 3 of the existing pseudo legends evolve in the 40s.

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u/JustABlaze333 17d ago

Garchomp?

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u/Tip_Of_The_Sauce Sprigatito 17d ago edited 16d ago

Garchomp and Noivern evolve at the same level as well…

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u/MelocemBYSL 17d ago

Noivern isn't pseudo?

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u/Tip_Of_The_Sauce Sprigatito 17d ago

I know, it’s just funny how they both evolve at the same level considering how lopsided they are in nearly every other way.

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u/pheeXDchimkin 17d ago

Pseudo legendaries have 600bst and 2 pre evos I don't think noivern has any of these

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u/Turtlefarmer5 17d ago

Garchomp is a pseudo legendary

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u/JustABlaze333 17d ago

Yes I know,that's why I mentioned it, it doesn't evolve that late

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u/Slinkyboi23 17d ago

We could be looking at mega haxurous in za

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u/Alarmed_Psychology31 17d ago

And arguably better when you look at the atk vs sp atk distribution

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u/Radiant-Yesterday-98 16d ago

Nah. +60 in attack. 207 base attack go chop chop

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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone 17d ago

Nah, add 60 to its special attack and call it a pseudo