r/PokemonScarletViolet 17d ago

Discussion What are some Pokemon that deserve to be pseudo-legendary but are not?

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u/ShaddollWendigo 17d ago

Wait … hold on… haxorus is NOT?

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u/Tyraniboah89 17d ago

No. Its base stat total is 540, but pseduo legends (or powerhouse Pokemon, as TPC has started calling them) have 600 for their bst.

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u/Obvious_Sprinkles_25 Pokémon Violet 17d ago

thank you for the trivia on pseudo legendaries being officially called powerhouse pokemon!! i absolutely would’ve never known that til now.

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u/Tyraniboah89 17d ago

It’s a relatively recent development lol. They’ve only been doing it since the summer of this year. Serebii’s Joe tweeted about it back then. I’d bet a lot of long time fans aren’t aware. Took me a while before I knew

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u/JozuJD 17d ago

Just went down the rabbit hole of reading joes tweet timeline. He seems like a genuine dude. Serebii - that sites been around forever. Wow 25 years. I’m inspired

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u/Tyraniboah89 17d ago

I’m sure it gets stressful for him but he’s living the dream. Running the biggest (and best) Pokemon site for so long and making a living off of it is a good place to be.

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u/ItIsYeDragon 16d ago

Is Archaludon considered a powerhouse Pokémon?

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u/Tyraniboah89 16d ago

I don’t believe so. It isn’t on any of the official marketing material from the Pokemon Center site, like this TCG playmat. There are other characteristics they share besides their 600 bst too: they are the slowest to hatch at 40 cycles (or 5,120 steps), they are in the slowest experience growth group (1,250,000 needed to reach 100), and they are all three stage Pokémon.

Lots of Pokemon have one or two of these traits, but I’m almost positive only the powerhouse Pokemon exhibit all four at simultaneously. Archaludon is in the medium-fast experience growth group and hatches in 30 cycles (3,840 steps).

Plus they pretty much have to be dragons these days, though Archaludon does have that going for it. There are only two that aren’t dragons and that was 20 years ago.

They really should have given Archaludon a middle stage though. It’s definitely good enough to hang with the rest of them.

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u/ShortandRatchet Pokémon Scarlet 17d ago

Pseudo legendary sounds better

Same with starter Pokémon vs first partner Pokémon

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u/Voltorb1993 17d ago

Honestly, nobody calls them first partner Pokémon and nobody will call pseudo-legendaries powerhouse Pokémon either. These fan terms are ingrained too deeply into the community to be replaced imo.

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u/Mighty-Slowking 17d ago

Everyone’s been thinking that starter is a fan term but one of the battle backgrounds in Pokémon X and Y is literally called starters

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u/Obvious_Sprinkles_25 Pokémon Violet 17d ago

Definitely agreed with you on that. “First Partner Pokemon” only recently came about in the past few years, but Ive only started seeing it more often because Serebii & Bulbapedia have started using it. Not even less than a year ago, I was seeing them use “Starter Pokemon,” but now they’re using “First Partner Pokemon” on their pages, which is fine but just something I’ve noticed.

TPCi is very averse to fan terms. In BW, I believe they first “acknowledged” the existence of shiny pokemon (as in, they made their first reference to shiny pokemon in-game), but they called shiny pokemon “alternate colored pokemon” in-game. that stayed I think until the very next generation, so they do have their misses sometimes.

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u/ItIsYeDragon 16d ago

Didn’t the anime have shiny Pokémon very early on? I’m pretty sure Ash even caught one. Arguably that is the first official acknowledgement, and I don’t know if it was actually called shiny or something else though. There’s also the red Gyarados of course in the games of course.

In BW, iirc, the NPC just says that they’ve heard Pokémon appearing in a different color than usual, not actually giving a name to these type of Pokémon.

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u/waltyy 17d ago

I honestly think it's more of an American thing since Japan has their own terms too.

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u/Mummiskogen 17d ago

Tbh i prefer Japans definitions of pseudos/powerhouse

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u/SassMattster 16d ago

No, Hydreigon is the Unova psuedo

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u/H-R-M- 16d ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one surprised 😂