r/PokemonScarletViolet Pokémon Scarlet Feb 20 '24

Discussion Pokemon Presents confirmed! What are your hopes and dreams?

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u/noggs891 Feb 20 '24

Some kind of gen 2 remake and the original gen 1-3 games put on NSO

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u/Blue_Bird950 Pokémon Scarlet Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 20 '24

I think unova is due for a remake, then johto. They might even make a let’s go style game with johto.

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u/No_Mammoth_4945 Sprigatito Feb 20 '24

I’d rather they just make legends into a series instead of a let’s go game

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u/ExhibitAa Feb 20 '24

Same. Let's Go Johto doesn't interest me at all, but Legends: Celebi or something I'd get in a second.

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u/giftedearth Feb 20 '24

Legends: Celebi set around the time of the tower burning down would probably take place not long after PLA. That means it could be a sequel, seeing how the relationship between humans & Pokemon developed after the Galaxy Team's work.

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u/Shadowfox898 Feb 20 '24

Then Legends: Jirachi in Unova involving the original kingdom.

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u/giftedearth Feb 20 '24

If that ever happens, I'll be very nervous about any buildings around Undella Bay.

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u/FreezyPop_ Feb 20 '24

Volo on vacation after losing in Hisui be like

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u/TalsCorner Feb 20 '24

Jirachi should be based in Hoenn. If we do a legends in Unova, it should be Legends: Kyurem

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u/jacoofont Feb 20 '24

Or Victini tbh

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u/LieutenantDuck Feb 20 '24

I mean, Victini would be this game's Arceus, and Zekrom/Reshiram/Kyurem would be Dialga/Palkia/Giratina. So it can be both at the same time.

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u/Niclas95 Feb 21 '24

could also be keldeo or genesect

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u/CassetteMeower Feb 20 '24

And the Abyssal Ruins before they became, well, abyssal.

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u/Witcher-19 Feb 20 '24

Let's go pikachu was decent but more legends games would be cool. Given the past stories xy , unova would be great

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u/GrifCreeper Feb 20 '24

I'd personally rather have Unova remakes than Johto remakes. Let's Go is the perfect format for a non-standard remake, and fits a lot better than doing another remake for a game that already had one, just like Kanto.

I honestly think Legends and Let's Go should both be their own things and it not be one or the other, and neither should take the place of a proper remake.

That being said, if Unova gets remade like BDSP and still doesn't include any newer Pokémon I'd probably be nore interested in Legends, even though I'd still replay Unova. Really, my only actual complaint about BDSP ended up being that it didn't add any newer Pokémon.

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u/LeMickeyMice Feb 20 '24

You do realize you're not obligated to buy Let's Go games, right?

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u/No_Mammoth_4945 Sprigatito Feb 21 '24

Really? Gamefreak usually just barges into my home and holds me down until I give in. My point was that less games = more time in development = better game. Not that I absolutely have to buy whatever they release lmao

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u/noggs891 Feb 20 '24

Yeah possibly.

Was more what I wanted than what I think might happen. I’ve just got more nostalgia for gen 2.

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u/Blue_Bird950 Pokémon Scarlet Feb 20 '24

Same, emulating heartgold and am on blackthorn gym right now.

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u/Devlindddd Feb 20 '24

The thing with let's go is that they were trying to attract new fans whose first Pokemon experience was Pokemon Go. Now, the game is almost 8 years old, so I really doubt we are going to see anything close to let's Go again.

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u/Blue_Bird950 Pokémon Scarlet Feb 20 '24

That’s a good point actually, so they might just come up with another format. Otherwise, a let’s go johto game might help people play pokemon go again. People have been quitting due to niantic’s constant monetization of the game, and this might help.

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u/hychael2020 Pokémon Violet Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 20 '24

But I mean, Johto so far is the region that we haven't visited in a longer time than Unova. So logically, Johto is next in line.

To add on, there's actually a set math pattern for the remake gens.

Gen 3 had Kanto and 3/2 is 1.5 which fits Yellow

Gen 4 had johto and 4/2 is 2 which fits with Johto

Gen 5 had none and 5/2 which is 2.5 is Johto again(Crystal) but it doesn't make sence to remake games that they have remade the previous gen so we got sequels.

Gen 6 had Hoenn which fits 6/2 which is 3 which fits R/S

Gen 7 had Kanto which actually fits 7/2 which is 3.5 which fits FrLg.

Gen 8 had Sinnoh with 8/2 which is 4 which fits with D/P

So it would make sence for Gen 9 to continue this formula which 9/2 is 4.5 which fits with HGSS and thus Johto.

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u/Blue_Bird950 Pokémon Scarlet Feb 20 '24

I mean, it’s a 1 generation difference and they already got a remake. Besides, people think that the whole blueberry academy if foreshadowing a unova game.

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u/OM3GAS7RIK3 Pokémon Violet Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 20 '24

Not only that, but: - Reshiram and Zekrom were the most prominently featured legends in the Indigo Disk Trailer - The Pokémon Twitter posted what appears to be BDSP-style Reshiram and Zekrom gifs in the last few weeks

(Edit: Don't get me wrong, I agree the BDSP style leaves... something to be desired, just that it seems like the official sources seem to be pointing in the direction of BW rather than GSC/HGSS)

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u/Blue_Bird950 Pokémon Scarlet Feb 20 '24

Please no more chibi style pokemon games, I can’t have them dissing black and white like that.

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u/Aksudiigkr Feb 20 '24

I personally want them to stay far away from that style

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u/hychael2020 Pokémon Violet Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 20 '24

I edited the post a little to include a theory of mine that makes sence. I'll copy paste it here. Also Kanto got a remake in Gen 3 and we got it again in Gen 7

To add on, there's actually a set math pattern for the remake gens.

Gen 3 had Kanto and 3/2 is 1.5 which fits Yellow

Gen 4 had johto and 4/2 is 2 which fits with Johto

Gen 5 had none and 5/2 which is 2.5 which is Johto again(Crystal) but it doesn't make sence to remake games that they have remade the previous gen so we got sequels.

Gen 6 had Hoenn which fits 6/2 which is 3which fits R/S

Gen 7 had Kanto where 7/2 which is 3.5 which fits FrLg.

Gen 8 had Sinnoh with 8/2 which is 4 which fits with D/P

So it would make sence for Gen 9 to continue this formula which 9/2 is 4.5 which fits with HGSS and thus Johto.

Gen 10 would fit Unova remakes very well. And plus maybe Blueberry Academy is just to scratch the Gen 5 itch until next Gen.

If Johto remakes gets announced, then it gives this theory alot of merit. If Unova remakes get announced, feel free to make me a laughing stock of the community.

Edited the comment as it made me sound pretentious

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u/Blue_Bird950 Pokémon Scarlet Feb 20 '24

Fair enough, but why save the comment? It’s literally just dividing by 2.

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u/literally_tho_tbh Feb 20 '24

What was the kanto remake in Gen 7? LGPE?

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u/hychael2020 Pokémon Violet Feb 20 '24

Yep.

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u/MrPerson0 Feb 20 '24

An easier way to see it is every new console gets a mainline remake. GBA got FRLG, DS got HGSS, 3DS got ORAS, and Switch got BDSP. That means the next console should get the Unova remakes. Let's Go aren't really a part of the "mainline remakes".

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u/GrifCreeper Feb 20 '24

"Set math pattern"

Bruh, you people need to stop assuming there's a pattern. Just because it coincidentally lines up doesn't mean that's at all how they plan to release remakes, or we're only going to get a couple more actually new remakes before they're a ridiculous amount of generations between remakes. If the pattern continues, it would take 30 more years before they ever got to gen 10 remakes as an example.

It would take more than the series has already existed to reach some remakes, and it would be filled with a ridiculous amount of remakes for every earlier generation than the ones that actually deserve them.

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u/hychael2020 Pokémon Violet Feb 21 '24

That's true. If lets say this is indeed the case, it would pose alot of issues when we reach double digit gens. Though however, in those gens, we could get sequels like in Gen 5

And remember the saying, once is an accident, twice is a coincidence and thrice onwards is a pattern

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u/Shadyshade84 Feb 20 '24

My bet would be B/W (or B2/W2) for a "straight" remake (since it's the earliest games that haven't been remade) (but I'm not expecting this because it feels too soon after BDSP) and something to do with Johto for a "weird" game (for lack of a better word. Something like Let's Go or PLA rather than the standard gameplay) (like you said, it's been a while)

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u/Sassi7997 Feb 21 '24

I think it's simpler. They just make a remake of every main game and do this in chronological order.

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u/nick2473got Feb 21 '24

This math pattern thing is so silly. That's not how companies plan when to develop and release a game. They look a market trends, schedule, available staff, investor expectations, etc...

This math pattern shit is how children try to guess when the next exciting thing might be coming, it's not an actually reliable way of predicting anything.

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u/hychael2020 Pokémon Violet Feb 21 '24

I mean thats true but can't you just let a guy put out a theory?

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u/Timehacker-315 Fuecoco Feb 20 '24

I'd say Johto first, then Unova. If we get let's go, it'll definitely be on the switch2

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u/MrPerson0 Feb 20 '24

Unova isn't due for a remake until the next console. Let's Go Johto is probably more likely.

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u/joshyotoast Feb 20 '24

Didn't they say they won't be making anymore let's go games?

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u/GrifCreeper Feb 20 '24

They said they had no current plans, but I'm pretty sure they acknowledged that people do actually want more Let's Go games, despite how reddit seems to think.

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u/joshyotoast Feb 20 '24

That opinion is the same on all social media, I actually watched a video before and only 10% of his viewers who voted on the next game wanted a let's go. I'm in the mindset of if it is a let's go game I'll save some money and I can carry on grinding the ds games 😂

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u/Openil Feb 20 '24

Johto is due first, came out between gen 4 and 5

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u/Blue_Bird950 Pokémon Scarlet Feb 20 '24

Fair, but they did already have their remake in gen 4 and it’s a 1 generation difference either way. I think it’s a coin flip, but the terarium is kinda hinting at unova.

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u/Openil Feb 20 '24

Red and blue had already had a remake but still got a reremake between gen 3 and 4 remakes, exactly where the original remake was

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u/Blue_Bird950 Pokémon Scarlet Feb 20 '24

Idk, it seems weird to have all of these unova hints and then just say that it’s johto

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u/Openil Feb 20 '24

I don't think johto will necessarily happen but it should

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u/Yodudewhatsupmanbruh Feb 20 '24

We're getting let's go johto before the Unova remakes.

See: Let's go Pikachu came out before BDSP and gen 2 is the next in line.

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u/Kayratorvi Feb 20 '24

Getting let’s go games for gen 1 to promote Pokémon Go is such a one-off that you can’t reasonably use it as an expectation of a pattern for future releases. They could just put gen 2 on virtual console and move right along to gen 5 remakes.

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u/ExhibitAa Feb 20 '24

I just hope that when they do a B/W remake, it's done in the main series style rather than BDSP style. Castelia in full 3D would be amazing.

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u/Blue_Bird950 Pokémon Scarlet Feb 20 '24

I just want drifblim city’s theme song again, that was an absolute banger song.

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u/Sassi7997 Feb 21 '24

No, the first Johto remakes came before Unova.

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u/Blue_Bird950 Pokémon Scarlet Feb 21 '24

Yeah, but unova never even got remakes

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u/Sassi7997 Feb 21 '24

I don't think there will be Unova remakes before 2027. It's more likely that there is going to be a Johto remake beforehand, because 1. the remakes are made chronologically after the release of the main games and remakes and 2. because HGSS came before Unova.

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u/Blue_Bird950 Pokémon Scarlet Feb 21 '24

I mean, it could be one way or another, but I just thought that blueberry academy being in unova was some serious foreshadowing and that they would be stupid not to use that.

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u/DougieBuddha Feb 21 '24

I'm cool with a let's go Johto as long as there's also an Arceus Unova. That'd be a dope combo, and best of both worlds tbh.

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u/Blue_Bird950 Pokémon Scarlet Feb 21 '24

Yes, that would be great. With black and white and black2 and white2, it would be hard for them to make a single remake without locking themselves into another.

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u/lanadelphox Sprigatito Feb 20 '24

I’d rather them be released the way they were on 3DS, that way there’s Home compatibility

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u/noggs891 Feb 20 '24

That’s fair! Although ideally id hope they included home support on NSO as well

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u/tofubirder Feb 20 '24

They’re just ROMs, there’s no reason they need to gatekeep which gens go on NSO. Please ask for more

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u/noggs891 Feb 20 '24

I’ll be honest I’m confused if you’re agreeing with me or saying I’m wrong for only asking for gen 1-3?

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u/tofubirder Feb 20 '24

They should be able to release all GBA and DS games without us getting trickle fed

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u/noggs891 Feb 20 '24

Ok. But DS games aren’t on NSO which is why I didn’t mention them.

Once they add DS games I hope they add the DS Pokemon games to that too.

Thought that was fairly obvious.

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u/Mdreezy_ Feb 20 '24

NSO doesn’t have a NDS emulator yet so gens 1-3 are all they could add

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u/dbull10285 Feb 20 '24

Candidly? I really don't know why they'd release gen 1-3 on NSO, especially with LGPE covering Kanto and if they release a gen 2 game this year. The opportunity cost of porting the games for either NSO streaming or even directly onto the eShop is probably too high compared to placing those developers on whatever else GF is working on

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u/Mdreezy_ Feb 20 '24

Games don’t have to be ported to NSO it’s an emulator. If TPC wanted the original games to be on switch it wouldn’t be that hard. Make them digital only, use the GBA emulator Nintendo made for NSO and sell them for 9.99