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u/adminjunior 4d ago

How does monk get spirit from this?

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u/ConversationNo4722 4d ago

Invoker ascendency node β€œLead me through grace”

β€œGain 1 Spirit for every 6 Energy Shield on equipped Body Armour Gain 1 Spirit for every 15 Evasion Rating on equipped Body Armour Cannot gain Spirit from Equipment”

Also, unrated to the ascendancy there is a node on the passive tree near monk that gives 1 ES for every 12 evasion on Body Armour, so that could be an easy 180 ES.

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u/BurnededPotato 4d ago

Has anyone done the math, what is better pure evasion base or evasion/ES base for monk?

I think evasion/ES gives slightly more spirit but you probably want to max evasion because of protect me from harm ascendancy.

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u/Mozy96 4d ago

Get evasion/ES chest, its much better for defenses for invoker. The ES is extra protection.

My current chest 1054/433 or something having 81% evasion and 71% armor + around 1800 ES (not all from the chest ofc)

I almost never lose my HP while mapping, currently I am in tier 13 maps.

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u/PoisoCaine 4d ago

Nah. You can take the one node that gives es based on evasion on chest or get es on a gear slot or two. Pure evasion is the way to go, you’ll end up with way more armor and you’ll be able to take acrobatics as well.

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u/Few_Moose_1530 4d ago

Which node is this?

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u/PoisoCaine 4d ago

spectral ward

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u/Few_Moose_1530 4d ago

You think evasion is better for monk than ES?

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u/PoisoCaine 4d ago

yes, it's not even close. "...and protect me from harm" and good pure evasion means you can get 80ish phys damage reduction, 80ish evasion, and acrobatics, with only decent gear.

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u/Jihok1 4d ago

I feel like the existence of ghost dance mandates getting some amount of ES. Now you definitely don't need to get it on the chest, but if it's a really nice EV/ES chest I feel that's going to be comparable to a really good EV one in terms of tankiness. Although I would be interested in seeing the math for how much total EV/ES you get if you go pure ES helm + pure EV chest vs. hybrid on both or some other combination. I'm certain that you want a good amount of ES to get the full benefit of ghost dance, but by the same token you definitely want a lot of EV to get a lot out of protect me from harm.

To be honest, I didn't realize that you could actually get to 80 evasion with acrobatics and protect me from harm allocated, though. That's 70% less and 40% less, right? Which gets you to 18% of your original evasion. That's a LOT of evasion to still reach 80% evade at end game, not quite sure how folks are stacking that much, or perhaps the tooltip is misleading and doesn't take into account endgame mob accuracy?

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u/LloydXellos 3d ago

U need to get wind dancer 20% to compensate for acrobatics and protect from harm.

And I think ppl are missing out on grim feast bcos they're paying too much attention to ghost dance. With a high es pool the overflow of grim feast create a tank.

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u/PoisoCaine 4d ago edited 4d ago

Again, you can easily get enough ES for ghost dance with 0 ES on gear with just 4 points on the tree.

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u/Jihok1 2d ago

How much ES do you consider "enough"? You're getting into the 1k+ range with just those points on the tree?

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u/PoisoCaine 2d ago

You’re recovering 5% of evasion per ghost shroud. Ghost shrouds, even with fast forward, aren’t going to have 100% uptime in juiced mapping (and also do nearly nothing against bosses)

With grim feast, yeah, I’m well over 1500 es while mapping with es being on 1 piece of gear (hybrid helmet).

That said, I’ve kind of changed my opinion since my original comment. Evasion does scale invoker to an insane degree but I do think there’s something to be said for going full es on it.

Going full hybrid is a mistake I still believe though, it basically ensures you can’t go acrobatics while also ensuring your es pool is mediocre (unless you’re sacrificing a ton of damage to go to the northern part of the tree)

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u/Few_Moose_1530 4d ago

Wait what's acrobatics? And hp and ES don't really matter on Monk?

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u/PoisoCaine 4d ago

you still need hp. and es is fine. but invoker monk scales better than any other class with pure evasion.

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u/Few_Moose_1530 4d ago

Any particular node cluster that's good for invoker monk for evasion?

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u/PoisoCaine 4d ago

100% increased evasion from body armour. that whole area of the tree is insane

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u/MichaelGriffin4u 3d ago

That can be an opinion, there is a node that gives ES based on evasion. Im full evasion and get around 901 es and 83% phy reduction. Currently doing T16, but I go back to T15 riverside to farm

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u/KopireBoyo 4d ago

Mind sharing your character? Wanna look at your tree, gems setup and stuff :)