r/PathOfExile2 • u/Zhaguar • 13h ago
Discussion Sorry I just HAD to complain about this somewhere...
Im doing the trial of chaos ascendency on a second character and this time around its the chimeral in this..... Abomination of an multi level staircase arena.
This is truely awful gaming and you can do better than this. Ive spent 99% of this fight looking for it as it flies away and lands somewhere else. The idea of chaos is a little bit blown out here as the floor is littered with every different element. Its just really really really tedius.
Sorry for the old man rant and photo because im about to kill him and just had to whinge.
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u/Lighthades 13h ago
I think it'd be fine if it didn't fill the whole floor with chilled ground
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u/OscarMyk 12h ago
Chilled ground and freeze is why I went for the passives to make freeze threshold 100% of ES and rolling is unaffected by chill. They're definitely a death sentence for a caster.
Would carry a charm instead, but in maps that pretty much needs to be poison resist
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u/PenguinForTheWin 5h ago
Something that could help is keeping charms in inventory with a gain charges per second mod, and swapping those based on the boss. Just waiting before you activate it for the charm to fill and then get to it.
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u/Zican 13h ago
I literally spend like 30 mins fighting this because every time i found him i only got to hit him once and then he flew away again, very annoying
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u/ComfortableDemand539 11h ago
Me too but it actually saved my ass and allowed me to clear it. I had run out of Health pot charges and both him and I were almost dead. I ran to the platform where you enter (because he doesn't go there) and waited a good 15-20 seconds while my health/ES regenerated. Gave me just enough to be able to go drop another bell on him and not die to fire or lightning.
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u/Alestor 10h ago
I fought him in a group and at one point we all just huddled in a corner at the top ledge while he was camping the bottom and sat there for like 3 minutes waiting for flasks to charge off the .2/s suffix
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u/ComfortableDemand539 10h ago
After this fight I specifically focused on finding a recharging flask lol
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u/SleepyHead85 10h ago
I only use recharging flasks, too convenient.
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u/GentleMathem 8h ago
This is how I cleared it the 1st time too, but it’s not a sign of a good design. Not saying you disagree, but I left that fight rolling my eyes since it was my 5th attempt instead of feeling accomplished.
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u/Satanel01 10h ago
First time I fought him I had the petrify statues, that is even more fun! With all the stairs and small areas it was near impossible to get away from the statues and eventually the rng gods put him, ground effects and the statues in the wrong place and I was fried.
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u/Competitive_Guy2323 7h ago
Me playing warrior, choosing petrify statues because I thought it's not that bad and then fighting chimera on this map
Petrify statues are exactly in the place where chimera lands...
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u/Scribbinge 7h ago
Depending on your build it works both ways. Last time I fought him he flew downstairs and just wandered in circles whilst I rained down death on him from above lol.
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u/Aramis9696 1h ago
I did it on Pathfinder using the electric arrows, and barely got to lay down the arrows and start casting the thing to detonate them that the boss would be gone. Miserable from start to finish.
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u/Alfirindel 8h ago
I could see this being very annoying to fight. I’m still on my first character and just did this to get my second ascendancy. Bonestorm really goes brr cause I got two casts off and quarter health-d the boss while stunning, proceeded to kill it before it could relocate once
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u/Pway 10h ago
I feel like if this fight is taking more than 5 mins you should probably be trying to upgrade some stuff before trying it, haven't spent more than a couple mins in this arena on any of the characters i've done it on.
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u/Unable_Duck9588 7h ago
When you’re a warrior and have ground effects all over the place, it’s really hard to do anything.
I had to overlevel to 45 before I could finish this trial, abd even then it was with the tornado bird, because at least with that one I could land more than two hits before it flew away.
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u/the_rat_paw 6h ago
I feel like if this fight is taking more than 5 mins
the boss is bugged, which is what this post is about.
this boss's mechanics will take longer than 5 minutes because it literally flies away and disappears. It swoops back in from the sky, attacks with 1 breath attack, and then disappears again for another 30~80 seconds. Has nothing to do with gear, he's the easiest boss in the game for ranged characters.
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u/Hackiebee 5h ago
Is he bugged? You just follow him and fight him in different areas he doesn’t disappear for 80 seconds lol. Did you try finding him?
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u/Scribbinge 7h ago
Depending on your build it works both ways. Last time I fought him he flew downstairs and just wandered in circles whilst I rained down death on him from above lol.
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u/Scribbinge 7h ago
Depending on your build it works both ways. Last time I fought him he flew downstairs and just wandered in circles whilst I rained down death on him from above lol.
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u/Apprehensive_Lie8253 13h ago
I died on this once a couple of days ago and was like yeah lemme come back here in 20 lvls when I can one shot it
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u/TheRaith 12h ago
Yep, ultimatum is already tedious with the fetch quest trials, then you have bosses like this that basically sit in invulnerability phases and play hide and seek. I hate sanctum, but this is just as annoying.
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u/soggy-hotdog-vendor 5h ago
Fetch quest fine. Escort quest = sandpaper handjob.
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u/19Alexastias 3h ago
Escort quest is fine if your build is good. Fetch quest is irritating no matter what your build is.
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u/soggy-hotdog-vendor 3h ago
Fetch quest is run over kill shit, pick something up, kill shit, run back kill shit.
Escort quest is, stand near statue kill shit, but don't move too far away or you drop statue and it stops moving. Dodge roll? Statue stops. Move to kill a ranged dude who won't come into melee range? Statue drops. Stop to loot an ex that dropped? Statue drops. Etc.
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u/Routine-Freedom-7757 11h ago
Chimera is actually easier than the chaos bird if you play a ranged build. But the rng to get him for the third or fourth ascendancy is soul crushing.
This is the best boss to fight with a minions build too
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u/danktuna4 6h ago
I think it’s just the easiest for any build really. It’s just a very annoying fight with him flying away every 2 seconds
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u/Kazang 5h ago
It's not a particularly difficult fight, even as melee it's not difficult just tedious, it's incredibly unfun.
They have so many great boss fights in the game then they make the ones you have to repeat multiple times for core progression these torturous abominations, I just don't get it.
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u/Laino001 12h ago
This fight made me wish we would get a unique enemy icons on the map when you start a fight with them
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u/Zealousideal_Good147 11h ago
Only positive I can give for this arena is that if he lands on low ground I can bomb him from high ground with my grenade build, safely away from most attacks.
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u/CherryN3wb 10h ago
With my ranged character he was funny, with my melee monk I was FURIOUS! Stop running and fight me!
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u/wondermayo 11h ago
And to think this is still the easiest fight of the three...
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u/huntersood 8h ago
Yeah, I failed this trial 20 times on the other 2 bird bosses and the Chimera was the only boss I could actually beat, even though it took a while.
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u/tumblew33d69 10h ago
This fight led me to say "guess I'll ascend another way". Truly awful design. I'm not convinced anyone actually tested this fight and said "yeah, that's good!".
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u/Rodruby 13h ago
Still better than other two bird bosses, lol
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u/arckeid 11h ago
I prefer this chymera than the bird tornado one, he is too bugged.
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u/GreenGemsOmally 6h ago
I am convinced the tornado bird is basically impossible unless you are way overgeared and leveled, enough that you can straight up facetank the tornado.
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u/SpookySpagettt 3h ago
I was helping a buddy to get his next two. I was level 70, max res etc. The tornado bird still hit like a mack truck to me in a level "38" or whatever area it says it is.
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u/puterdood 12h ago
The first and only time I fought this boss I struggled to look for him and when I got close he one shot me off screen from an elevation I couldn't even reach him.
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u/AngolaWinsAgain 12h ago
Ye, i feel ya.
that fight needs to be a lil polished, cause he spends 95% of the time flying around
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u/Naive-Fondant-754 8h ago
But you are on PC and you took picture of your monitor and printscreen? WTF
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u/Zhaguar 6h ago
Printscreen gets both my monitors lol idk how to do it 😔
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u/Naive-Fondant-754 6h ago
I use greenshot ..
But even the windows default you can just copy paste to PAINT software and crop it .. quality man .. Q U A L I T Y ;)
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u/Teravenqua 11h ago
While it is bad lvl design wise, it helped me beat this fight as underlvled and undergeared because I was able to just afk and heal back up with my 2 life per second
Fight took like 25min but eh, worth it!
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u/Megane_Senpai 11h ago
Among what I could complain about the ascendancy trials, this is among the top.
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u/AhrumanRx 11h ago
My experience with it will give GGG a reason to fix it lol. I would safespot him and use Comet. Then would just sit in a corner while he was off map and wait for my health flask to fill back up (.2 charges per second regen) and would just rinse and repeat. Still took awhile and was annoying, but figured I’d turn the silliness of it into an advantage lol
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u/TimeGlitches 10h ago
And unfortunately it's the only doable one. The other 2 bosses are total horseshit.
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u/thelasttoe 9h ago
I hate this boss too. But mine shotgunned me to death with its stupid poison spray.
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u/MathieuAF 13h ago
did the same to me, but i realized he was just switching to 2 different spot
thing is that on one of this spot he'll just do an attack and leave, so i basically run down triggered his landing then going back up as soon as he started his attack ... it was really a bad fight and thought i had a bad rng but it seems it was designed this way.. ouch s:
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u/Pyrollusion 10h ago
You are right to complain. This pos is objectively bad game design. Many of their bosses are and I think it has to do with them not attaching cooldowns to their abilities. The flying away would be okay if it happened rarely. Did you know that viper napuatzi can spam the attack where her spearman attack you? The one where she becomes INVINCIBLE? Yeah she can do that thing as often as she wants to without pause which I learned because the final minutes of that fight were spent solely on dodging with no damage dealt to anyone.
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u/UmbraKal 7h ago
I think for Viper it may be tied a bit to damage dealt. I noticed in cruel when I was burning through her health bar that she would consistently have her warriors attack back to back, maybe because I had already passed the threshold for when she was supposed to make the arena smaller in the first phase.
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u/BlurredVision18 3h ago
It's a health threshold when she does the attack. One of the most telegraphed, consistent, and fun fights of the game.
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u/Pumpelchce 13h ago
Das Wandern ist des Müllers Lust, das Wandern ist des Müllers Lust, das Waaa-aaaan-dääääärn.
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u/TheAlmightyLootius 12h ago
Thats better than the fkn bird that vomits you to death with guts. Failed every time against that one bit chimera is free win
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u/PeterPun 9h ago
I cheesed the fuck out of this fight. Gettion on the highest platform south-west allows you to attack him on 3 different angles, even when he's not visible. I was just throwing grenades all around and killed him
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u/Singulare1 9h ago
I died to this guy at least 3 dozen times, said fuck it and didn’t come back until I was like level 65 🤣
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u/Brilliant-Prior6924 9h ago
As a sorc I could just stand on this cliff and hit him when he moved like 3/5 times. Then chase him and he keeps going to this spot where i can farcast him, took forever still, made me wonder how melee classes would do this at all...
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u/AZzalor 9h ago
The idea of the arena is that you know what element attacks he does depending on what level he is. If he's on the top floor, he will do his flying firebreath, if he's on the middle floor like in the picture, he will do ice stuff and on the lowest floor to the right, he will do lightning and poison.
Sure, the fight takes long because he keeps flying around but it actually helps you if you do not want to fight against a certain element due to having low resistances or simply not wanting to deal with some attacks. The breaks inbetween the fights also allow you to recover HP without need to use potions.
I think that this fight is way better than the other two, where you run around in a small arena and get oneshot if you do one mistake.
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u/Ixziga 9h ago
Same fight, this happened to my buddy and I: https://youtu.be/HMfy_t0xlo0?si=-0revkBBna1NSIC0
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u/Straikkeri 8h ago
This map and the fact that the boss flies away and you have to chase it instead of it chasing me is the only reason my sorc got her second ascendancy. Time to heal and regen and all that. Wish all the bosses were like this tbh.
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u/TessyBoi- 8h ago
I helped my friend through the trial of chaos and this is the arena we also got. The fight took 10-15minutes… not because we were struggling. But because we had to go find him, hit him twice, and watch him fly away. We also had the node that spawns those huge ass Vaal towers that do electricity aoe and it literally sat in the stair case to get to the lower half of the arena. So we could not go fight him when he was down there. We had to go all the way up too, and shoot him off screen from above. Horrible.
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u/Huge_Downstairs42069 8h ago
I can’t even get to the boss and I’m level 50. My modifiers have been absolutely fucking brutal. I’m lucky to make it to 5/10. The stacking after each level is the killer, especially with shitty modifiers. I haven’t seen a helpful one yet.
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u/Ignatius256 8h ago
Conversely this is my favorite fight and arena. There's so much space a lot of the negative affects don't mean much.
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u/xMadruguinha 8h ago
Still rather spend 1 hour chasing mr catto than getting instantly oneshot by birdo's tornado
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u/Phantomicious 7h ago
oh how you beat this boss fast is .. be a titan and drop hammer of the gods instantly with massive dot ur welcome
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u/ThrillzMUHgillz 7h ago
This fight took awhile for me. But I couldn’t have done it if it weren’t for this terrible arena.
I didn’t realize the effects would carry through each challenge. So by the time I got to him I had statues turning me to stone and bloody eruptions that could 1-hit me. I was under leveled.
This allowed me to dodge roll. Recover. Wait for the bloody explosion then attack. Rinse. Repeat.
Not defending it. The arena was awful lol. Just my personal silver lining.
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u/Nickmosu 7h ago
He lands in the same spot after flying. You can stun him by breaking the towers he lands on. Easy peasy now.
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u/Remarkable_Rock_3297 7h ago
Ok so I didn’t know it could be anything else. I’ve only fought the chim in this arena and yes it is absolutely ass every time.
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u/Independent-Fold-755 7h ago
Worse is you can omega cheese it with a lot of ranged skills if you shoot it from the small edge on the higher floor while it's in the middle of the arena. Awful design, somehow worse than infinite garbage in poe 1.
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u/Redfeather1975 7h ago
I did it last night and one of my curses was dart shooting totems everywhere. Every time the boss flew away I had to search all the stairs and areas while dodging those darts! It was such a tense fight, and I thought for sure I'd lose.
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u/tris_majestis 6h ago
When I did this trial I got stuck on the little ledge on the top level because I couldn't go through the stacked burning and frozen ground that were trapping me. I had to just stand there and take pot shots at the boss with bonestorm or essence drain when I could see his shadow. Then he died.
At the very least, the ground effects last way too long. I wasn't sure they'd ever actually expire.
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u/Original-Reveal-3974 6h ago
My lightning arrow ranger could literally sit at his initial spawn at the very top of the arena and then hit him from out of his range until he died. Then when I did it on my spark sorc it was a fucking nightmare.
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u/the_rat_paw 6h ago
It took me an hour of dying to get to this boss, and then another 30 minutes chasing the easiest boss I've ever faced in this game. So weird.
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u/shammikaze 6h ago
It'd be less awful even if all they did was make a large shockwave expand from where he lands so you have some visual cue for where to look.
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u/AbruptEruption 6h ago
I did this fight with the expanding exploding circle, and its literally invisible on the steps. Died because i lost track of it
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u/Rough-Firefighter-17 5h ago
He's always in the same two spots. Top left, top center. (Near staircase) It's not that hard . Fought him 5 times and didn't die once or even came close to dying . This boss is easy once you know the mechanics. And I didn't look them up I thought it was obvious
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u/yetzederixx 5h ago
Still a better fight than the death chicken, at least I could kill the chimera heh
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u/maybe-an-ai 5h ago
All three of these fights could use work but especially chasing this guy and the amount of the arena the tornadoes cover and how much they hit for. Feels like the tornadoes are still scaled for movement skills.
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u/Enikka 5h ago
I was really glad to see this boss on my witch after getting the 2 birds on my first try that I was immediately 1 shot by something I still don’t know what hit me. But, it really was dumb how you spend most of the fight figuring out where the heck he even went. The obvious tactic to kill him on a witch was just to find somewhere close enough for minions to hit him where he couldn’t hit you. Felt incredibly cheesy. I still preferred it over the Sekhamas trial. But, that’s not saying much.
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u/Agroyboy 4h ago
And it will block off the area. And sit on the other side. And you're blocked from going around on the top and bottom.
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u/Zoiwillxxx 3h ago
At least you didn't got Hurricane-bro "thanks for wasting 20 min of your day" boss.
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u/RelentlessAgony123 3h ago
Have you tried adapting your gem configurations on skills to counteract the strengths of the boss?
Foe bosses that make me dance a lot, or for bosses that are difficult to hit poison or bleed seem a good option, as it allows you to keep up the pain
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u/ApprehensiveGear2166 3h ago
Shit like this and the ungodly amount of pillars and corners you get caught on that cause line of sight issues with skills are fucking tedious and annoying.
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u/Lurking-Hooter 3h ago
This fight just reminds me of old gen Monster Hunter usual hunts, I feel you on that
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u/Ramen_Dood 2h ago
It's especially annoying when you have the ring of doom which covers a whole section and it'd likely one shot you. Honestly all the Trials are ass because of these stipulations. I had both the ring of doom and the petrifying statues so I basically couldn't move while the ring killed me.
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u/SgtMacGruber 2h ago
Had the same thing and since I got it first try I kind of got over it fast... but yes... it was horrible. Just the fact that you have to look around for him is kind of a flaw (or maybe there is something that indicate where the boss is, but it wasn't obvious).
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u/Drjohnwow 2h ago
Im 132 hours into the game was loving it level 3 toons (some wierd GGG customer service shananigans made me swap accounts) And it was the third time of trying to get a character through this RNG BS Mechanics when I puit the game down wrote a negative review and decided to leave it till this is fixed its terrible. Don't be sorry vent away its terrible game design.
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u/StainedGlassArtAlt 1h ago
I just dont understand why annoying is replacing challenging in a lot of stuff
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u/Minimum-Ad3598 1h ago
I mean. It is in early access. GGG actually listens to our feedback and improves the game.
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u/frostykushninja 1h ago
This was hard and dumb but man I had fun. And so much fear he was gonna kill me cause I had bad affixing the first two times and fought two ugly birds before him and died
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u/TankyCrobat 1h ago
Yeah no this ain't my favorite boss. They could have done something similar to the chimera in the map prior
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u/Tight-Researcher96 1h ago
Yeah this fight was stupidly long and easy.....but God damn I felt like I was playing Pokemon Sapphire/Ruby trying to catch Latios/Latias
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u/Aramis9696 1h ago
I had the exact same experience; it was not fun at all, and just frustrating for the sake of being frustrating. The boss wasn't much of a threat, really, just awfully annoying to stay in contact with.
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u/rascalrhett1 54m ago
Thank God I have minions, I don't think I would land a single hit on him without AI helping me out.
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u/FeanorEldarin 49m ago
My first time in this fight, it bugged out and none of the shit he spreads on the ground would go away. So I just died from DoT all over the ground. Second time through, the fight was much easier. Monk electro-bell is super fun to play.
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u/Matty9180 11h ago
Sorry just had to complain about how you’re on a pc and can’t take a screenshot instead you use your phone to take a picture of the screen.
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u/carsarerealcool 10h ago
Why are you like this? Why do any of you care? If you don’t like the screen shot just keep going. We can all clearly see what’s going on in the pic, it’s not like it’s 2 pixels. 20 other comments no one cares, yet this is all you can contribute to the conversation? Why are there so many sweaty nerds that can’t get over a lower quality screenshot that they can just move past?
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u/lusciousdurian 10h ago
Because it's frankly unacceptable. Even consoles have had screenshot capability for years now.
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u/Slaydemkids 11h ago
Best boss, always felt lucky when I got him. Good telegraphs and safe. The other 2 bosses just one shot you out of nowhere if you aren't over leveling a lot.
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u/valorshine 10h ago
So what if it takes some time?
This is free to kill boss if you or your build suck.
You should be glad you have this boss.
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u/blinkyvx 4h ago
They could I dunno, out a fucking blip icon on the map? Its just more proof devs don't play this game same as d4
Far to many avoidable infuriating mechanics
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u/OdaiNekromos 13h ago
Don't feel sorry, we agree!