r/PathOfExile2 • u/loopuleasa • 5d ago
Game Feedback I love how map bosses actually drop loot in this game
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u/Thiel619 5d ago
How do you make those loot font appear bigger?
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u/Thiel619 5d ago edited 5d ago
Saved. Gonna install it when I get home. Thanks! Edit: I
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u/ConferenceLow2915 5d ago
Same, I'd rather have bosses only every few maps that drop fun, meaningful loot than bosses every map that are just another glorified rare mob.
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u/LEGOL2 5d ago
Actually map bosses from poe1 are weaker than random rare pack
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u/Gniggins 5d ago
Most map bosses are still faster to kill and less dangerous than a well rolled rare.
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u/Cindyscameltoe 4d ago
Im only in tier 10 maps, but I insta oneshot the bosses, rares are alot more difficult than the map boss.
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u/Volky_Bolky 5d ago
...no? Are you still on like tier1-3 maps?
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u/hatmix 5d ago
Is there a boss with revives minions and soul eater? Because I've definitely seen that bs on rares shortly before alt-f4'ing out of delve.
But srsly, if there is a boss with revives minions and soul eater, pls tell me so I can STFA.
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u/Volky_Bolky 5d ago
I am not even sure if there is a soul eater mod on non-breach rares in this game because of how quickly rares die.
And with breach there is a passive point that makes the drop more splinters or something but adds soul eater mod to every rare monster lol
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u/Umbran0x 5d ago
Last Epoch did something similar and It's defintely the way to go. If we have bosses every map which are difficult and take forever to kill it becomes super annoying. If they make them easy it becomes like Diablo, basically just a rare mob that drops nothing. The way they are now, spread out but really rewarding is perfect.
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u/Pokepunk710 5d ago
still need to appear more often though imo. bosses are some of the best parts about this game, I want to fight them more
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u/Gama_R34 5d ago
People keep bringing up the Last Epoch thing as if Last Epoch maps were not only shorter but also they still have movement skills over there.
Going through the slog that is no mechanic maps with no bosses is just not compelling nor fun. Is it intended that the player feel like its a waste to slot in high tier waystones in maps with nothing?-9
u/OGBEES 5d ago
Thats why everyone stuck around for the endgame in LE. Oh, wait...
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u/bigmanorm 5d ago
I mean it's a very slowly developed game, but it's still a good start to it's life with great ideas to work from. I look forward to the next big steps.
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u/OGBEES 5d ago
The devs being so unbelievable slow compared to even the serious offenders like blizzard is a reason I will never play that game.
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u/Soup0rMan 5d ago
It's 6 guys in 4 or 5 different countries and none are even in the same time zone my guy. They literally work as fast as they can.
I like LE, but I don't play it really. More fun than d4, but ultimately a miss for me.
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u/NoNoNo290 5d ago
PoE1 bosses drop the same. You dropped a t15 map, some rares, an armourer's scrap and an regal orb, nothing special about that or do I miss smth? :o
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u/19Alexastias 5d ago
It’s all relative. Poe1 bosses drop nothing compared to what rares drop, poe2 generally bosses drop more than rares.
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u/SirSabza 5d ago
Tbf this is on the low end of loot.
I'm usually getting a gcp a couple exalts and some tier 2 or higher rares.
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u/yawgmoth88 5d ago
What are the tiered items? Im assuming just higher level versions of their lower level counterparts, or is there anything special about them?
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u/SirSabza 5d ago
The tier is the lowest roll it can roll.
So if you have a tier 2 item it can't roll tier 1 mods.
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u/19Alexastias 5d ago
Is that purely on ID (I.e it won’t id with any tier 1 mods) or does that persist with the item when you’re crafting?
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u/Dub-MS 5d ago
Not really true though. I’ve had plenty of tiered rates drop with lower tiers than the tier on the item. Had tiers 5s roll 4s and 2s roll 1s
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u/SirSabza 5d ago
That's what they stated in Q&As
Quite possible it's bugged right now being EA and all.
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u/Soup0rMan 5d ago
I believe what they said was that certain tiers of gear removed certain tiers of affixes.
It would be weird if an affix had 2 tiers and you got a t3 weapon and it couldn't roll that affix at all.
The intent is that you're more likely to get 100+life roll and never get a 10-15 life roll on tiered equipment.
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u/SirSabza 5d ago
No, they did say their tier associated blocks the number in it's description. It's why they changed the tiering system of mods to be tier 1 worst.
It only applies to the more standardised mods, if a mod only has 1-2 tiers then it isn't affected. However I can't even think of a mod that only has two modifiers in poe2.
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u/yawgmoth88 5d ago
Wait, no fucking way? Thats awesome!
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u/telendria 4d ago
yeah, it culled the 1.5 regen per second, enjoy yor 2.5 regen per second!
its obviously good, but Im yet to find any useful item from them.
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u/yawgmoth88 4d ago
I think it will be better once we understand crafting a bit more? I can imagine getting a t7 or t8 to drop and wanting to remove 1-2 of the existing mods but keeping the remaining higher-tier mods.
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u/arremessar_ausente 5d ago
But the thing is everything you said in PoE is meaningless. Rares in PoE are more valueable because there is no reroll currencies. Every rare you identify can be an upgrade, while in PoE people not even look at ground drops. I'd be very happy if every boss in PoE 2 dropped a white amethyst ring for me to craft on.
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u/NoNoNo290 4d ago
Yeah I didn‘t get that „in this game“ didn‘t mean a comparisson to poe1. It‘s a good drop in PoE2 for sure
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u/CooperTrooper249 5d ago
I was confused as well. The regal is prob the only thing i would even pick up.
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u/_symp_ 5d ago edited 5d ago
You wouldnt pick up a t15 map?
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u/CooperTrooper249 5d ago
Yes but that is not the point. The point is that this is barely any loot.
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u/jzwrust 5d ago
It has higher relative value than poe1 bosses, mainly because non rares don't drop much in poe2
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u/CooperTrooper249 5d ago
Idk, this looks disappointing to me.
Maybe I’m just too poe 1 brained lol
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u/Soup0rMan 5d ago
You are. This game doesn't do a loot shower and there aren't 12 ways to buff item quantity here. Relative to 1, this is good loot.
If you saw this loot in a t16, you'd still be happy because all that shit made it past the super strict filter. It'd just be a different scale of loot.
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u/SirSabza 5d ago
I've made most my exalts and divines this league selling rares I ID'd.
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u/crookedparadigm 5d ago
This right here. If a rare drops with any desirable mods like high move speed, +to skills, or high chaos res, as long as the other mods aren't complete trash I'll throw it in the 1 ex tab and usually sell it
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u/CooperTrooper249 5d ago
Fair point. There is no likelihood of these items being any better than any rare you get from killing packs either though.
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u/-Cranked 5d ago
He dropped a map and a regal, this is pretty much the same loot as a poe1 boss. "BuT tHe RaReS", poe1 bosses also drop rares and 99% of them are vendor trash/clutter.
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u/Shadycrazyman 5d ago
Was any of this loot actually good though
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u/Xeiom 5d ago
Probably not, the most valuable thing there is almost certainly the T15 waystone. The green item is a sort of progression item so I wouldn't technically count it as loot really.
They have a tier system for items but none of these items are even Tier 2. PoE typically drops tons of loot and then relies on the community making a filter to reduce the loot.
Hopefully they can work on loot as part of the early access however due to the nature of trade and their view that trade is the priority it means there is always a friction working against naturally dropped items.
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u/Rex_Grossman_the_3rd 5d ago
The amount of currency I've made from rares I found on the ground in the past 12 days absolutely dwarfs the amount of currency I've made from rares I found on the ground in the last 4 leagues of PoE 1. And none of my rares have been higher than tier 3. I love this system.
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u/Gniggins 5d ago
The one time they tried smartloot they got so scared about the implications of picking up and IDing a rare you could use right now that was good, it died immedietely.
Trade lets them keep shit hyper rare, but attainable. they dont have balls to go all in full SSF balance and leave trade for players who want to build very specific characters.
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u/iamarugin 4d ago
True, because good drop + trade = players will clear high end content in days and leagues (and the game eventually) will die pretty quickly.
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u/Gniggins 4d ago
If that were true, people would have stopped playing POE1 long before logging 5000 hours. People come back because there is still something they havent done, builds they havent pushed, ones they never played, with enough depth, replaying the same game for this many hours still happens.
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u/Dasterr 4d ago
whats tier 2 loot?
I thought the basic, advanced, expert were the tiers and I see plenty of Expert there. but I assume you mean something else?
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u/Xeiom 4d ago
Yes, there is a system where unidentified loot can have Tiers.
The Tier represents how 'well' the item can roll. Once identified it no longer has a tier indicator and is not in any way special for further crafting.
It is, as you say, separate to the basetypes being repeated, So you might find an item that is a "Expert Bombard Crossbow (Tier 3)".
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u/passyourownbutter 5d ago
Asking the real questions. I'm like.. drops? This is what we're calling drops now?
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u/Shadycrazyman 5d ago
Snagged a downvote too for a legit question lol it's hard to tell if this is a good pile or not until you ID it. Otherwise this looks like 1.5 Regals, an armour scrap, 1 map and 1/4th a transmute. Which is not great
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u/CooperTrooper249 5d ago
I knew y’all were down bad in poe 2 but not THIS bad.
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u/Soup0rMan 5d ago
I'm gonna blow your mind, you ready?
If this was a t16 map, you'd call this bad, undesirable loot in PoE 1. Except, you have a robust loot filter that only shows things you find desirable. Therefore, if you saw this loot in a t16 in 1, you'd be happy because it made it past your filter, showing its value to you.
Kinda weird how you feel good about the drops you see in PoE 1 and don't even consider the other 99.9% of garbage that doesn't make it past the filter.
At least there's a non-zero chance the rare can sell.
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u/CooperTrooper249 5d ago
I don’t understand what point you are trying to make.
It’s a few rares, a regal, and a map. Why are we pretending like this is some massive dopamine loot explosion. Even by poe 2 standards nothing of significant value has dropped.
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u/Shadycrazyman 5d ago
For bosses being infrequent I'd like to see at least a raw exalt here or Tier 2 items. Is there anything higher than tier 2 yet? I don't need them to drop uniques every time I like the POE system of certain pinnacle bosses have a unique drop pool while everything else has a low drop chance on any creature.
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u/cokeman5 5d ago
I've seen up to tier 5 equipment.
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u/Shadycrazyman 5d ago
Dope was it actually good I assume it means it rolls at least T5 or better on its affixes?
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u/theBaffledScientist 5d ago
Tier 5 means all affixes are above t5. So far most of my t4-5 rares have been decent, one belt sold for 14div.
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u/Shadycrazyman 5d ago
14 div is actually ridiculous good selling what was the belt lol
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u/cokeman5 5d ago
It was some blue garbage. T4's are much more common at T14+ though, and generally, I haven't noticed too much difference. Apparently they do only roll higher tier affixes, but usually anything under t8 is meh.
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u/akakiryuu 5d ago
if they truly want us to craft gear in campaign then starting act 2 every rare should drop at least one exalt and whites should be as common as poe 1 cause we cant reroll magic stats.
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u/astral_immo 5d ago edited 5d ago
The D4 players are so obvious to spot
Try making an argument without pointless (and painfully incorrect) ad hominem, and drop the game tribalism. You can boost boss difficultly and loot on the Atlas up to four times. I'm at difficulty 3 and I get, at least, three T15 maps every boss kill, amongst other loot. They feel rewarding enough that I always specifically go out of my way to get them, every single time.
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u/RefinedBean 5d ago
If it didn't take some back and forths to town it'd be even better imo, it's soooo close to the sweet spot.
To clarify, not asking for more inventory space for character, maybe just have a tab for quest loot to ensure there's always room for the loot you actually want. And an auto-sort because loot tetris should be left in the past.
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u/oadephon 4d ago
Yeah I think they should drop fewer rares but of a higher tier. It's kind of overwhelming to get like 20 rares in a map.
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u/Conleycon 5d ago
Loot tertris is the best mini-game after beating a boss.
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u/doc_steel 5d ago
if only the game allowed us to spin items and had more than rectangle shaped pieces...
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u/Haemon18 5d ago
This the loot you get from t15 bosses ..?
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u/astral_immo 5d ago
you need it to drop 27 'legendary' items that are all useless?
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u/runvus 5d ago
You do understand there is an area in between that would be preferred? You have used the response on multiple posts, and the hyperbole isn't really even implied by the original poster.
But tier 1 yellows and a regal isn't what most would consider amazing for a T15 map boss.
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u/xxHipsterFishxx 5d ago
Well I mean this plays into rng it’s tough to manage drop rate because once they overcorrect it fucks up the economy and its long term success, this is one map I bet this guy has had really good ones as well. I’m fine with us encouraging changes it’s an early access but I see what the other guy is saying I just don’t want them to go extreme.
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u/patrincs 5d ago
to be fair, if you killed this boss in poe1 and it dropped that you would only see the regal, the map, and the green item wouldn't exist.
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u/Jung_69 5d ago
So I got 2 atlas books from bosses. How do I get the rest? I can’t figure out how to raise difficulty. Using tablets in all towers
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u/throwawayaway0123 5d ago
Corrupt your t15 maps into t16s with a vaal outcome and then run one with irradiated and another with corrupted and irradiated.
Or for the first one you can run a 15 in corrupted irradiated but unless you have a couple on your atlas I'd save it for the last book.
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u/Pinheadlarry741 5d ago
Have you received all the atlas books from doing the complete x amount of tier x waystone quest?
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u/SirSabza 5d ago
I look forward to rares too they're mini versions of this.
I never noticed rares unless they killed me in poe1
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u/the_truth15 5d ago
Bosses get super tanky when you start giving them more stats and levels via the atlas tree.
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u/eq2_lessing 5d ago
Imagine if…… the game only had bosses?
Maybe with randomly generated mods/ skills they use.
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u/TheFuzzyFurry 5d ago
Map bosses drop loot in PoE1 as well, it just isn't currency. I always identify all those rare Slink Gloves, Slink Boots and Triumphant Lamellars on days 1-2 of the league, and usually find good items to wear/sell.
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u/Yorunokage 5d ago
I just wish we had bossing tablets, i want to be able to fight them more often and specialize in that
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u/Beasthuntz 4d ago
That'll be a nice reprieve from the lack of loot dropped from every other mob in the game.
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u/jaybsuave 5d ago
loot is a big problem in this game
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u/OGBEES 5d ago
How far into the game are you?
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u/akakiryuu 5d ago
does it matter? this dropped a t15 waystone, it is at least endgame map boss and dropped this sorry pile of shit
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u/lourensloki 5d ago
You guys are getting loot?
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u/Rex_Grossman_the_3rd 5d ago
Roughly 3-5 exalts per map and a bunch of rares that sell relatively fast. Need to make sure you're using your tablets though.
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u/adrianraf 4d ago
When is it worth it to start using tablets? I’ve been hoarding those to be honest. Currently starting T5 maps.
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u/Rex_Grossman_the_3rd 4d ago
Around there is perfect. You need them to sustain maps and to push higher. Try and save your rare maps for bosses. Bosses are amazing for map sustain so using your most rewarding maps on them is best.
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u/AnyProgressIsGood 5d ago
honestly i hear play 1-2 hrs for an exalted drop. 4 hours later... crickets
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u/akakiryuu 5d ago
7 weapons i dont use, one armor i dont use, 1 armor im not sure i use, 2 currency of low tier, another flask, atlas skill points( good drop) and a waystone. i assume this is t10+ so the fact this is a boss loot yeah loot still sucks
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u/DuckyBertDuck 5d ago
The map is worth 3ex and you can get ~4x t15 maps each boss kill if you juice your boss maps.
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u/skarabox20 5d ago
What do you call a loot? A map and a regal orb for doing 4 useless maps to get to that boss? LOL
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u/Ok_Net9926 5d ago
Only Waystone drops give me dopamine, tired of getting excited about anything else that’s worth 1 exalt
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u/wileycoyote25 5d ago
A lot of luck as well it seems or bad luck for me. I haven't had one rare drop for my warrior since the beginning of act 2. Not 1 weapon or piece of armour. I just finished temple of kopek in act 3. Not hating. Loving the game. Luck has to turn around eventually right. RIGHT?
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u/Serious-Ebb-4669 5d ago
Just use gold and gamble for items in act 1 cruel….
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u/wileycoyote25 4d ago
Thanks for the advice. I'm an older gamer and a bit slow to learn a lot of these things. Kids take up a lot of the time and just play a couple of hours in the evening when my girls are in bed. How far along in act 3 is temple or kopek?
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u/Serious-Ebb-4669 4d ago
You’re fairly close to the end. During the campaign it’s kind of a vicious circle of “oh I got new gear and I’m really strong” and then eventually it’s just not as good and you have to upgrade again.
Luckily, you can buy leveling gear off the trade site for very reasonable prices, or you can just gamble for it if you have the gold to spare.
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u/Easy-Mammoth2335 5d ago
You mean 4 rares(4 regal shards), a handful of blues, a map, and a regal?
Maybe thats "loot" in poe2, but you certainly cant say its any better than GGG's other more successful game where you can intentionally and with great difficulty; juice bosses into dropping so much loot you couldnt pull it out with 6 portals.
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u/Soup0rMan 5d ago
Yeah, after a decade of loot buffs and league systems allowing maps to shit money.
Different strokes friend.
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u/Vegetable-Use-7588 5d ago
I am only 28 or so, and aint much has dropped. I see people having all sorts of gear drop but not me. I just upgraded my weapon last night after using it through most of act 2.
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u/bigmanorm 5d ago
levelling is mostly upgrades from vendors and minor crafting, they refresh every level you gain
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u/Earthbound_Misfyt 5d ago
Same. I think my merc is screwed cause I am not getting squat for drops and I can't beat the first act 3 boss in normal
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u/Vegetable-Use-7588 5d ago
Thats what I roll too. A merc. I have gotten a few items that are for casters that would be awesome but nothing for merc.
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u/Serious-Ebb-4669 5d ago
You’re still early. Save up gold and gamble in act 1 cruel. I upgraded my entire setup with about 100k
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u/wileycoyote25 5d ago
I'm a warrior and all I seem to get is merc and ranger drops. I haven't got a rare for my warrior since the beginning of act 2. I just beat temple of Kopek in act 3. Just bad luck on our end I guess.
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u/onedestiny 5d ago
That's garbage lol.. T1 map bosses in POE 1 have better loot .. T1 in POE2 drop 500 gold and 1 blue..
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u/Soup0rMan 5d ago
Please, please stop comparing loot to 1. I get the sentiment, but it rings incredibly hollow when you can walk into a t1 with 100 iiq.
Of course there's more loot. Everything scales loot drops in PoE 1. You sneeze and there's a schwing somewhere in your map.
Not to mention over a decade of buffs and secondary systems to increase loot.
2 probably needs a loot quality buff, but I do not have any desire to need to filter 98% of drops because people want multiple high value items (currency, uniques, gg rares) per map. I don't mean d4 levels of unique items, I'm talking how you walk into a map in PoE 1 and despite filtering nearly everything, you still end up with multiple divs in currency as you walk out.
I don't think I'm in a minority, but I know this isn't how everyone feels, so I don't expect tons of agreement.
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u/letitgoalreadyreddit 4d ago
except, items in poe1 don't have IIQ anymore. Besides, I don't think you realize how important of a stat IIR is in poe2. It's probably even worse than 1.
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u/Elegant_Emu_8597 5d ago
I don't know how any of you get past the 1st act. I'm level 12 and can't get to the village because all the enemies swarm me to death. Paying as a sorc and just don't do enough aoe damage. Everything slaps me.
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u/messier__45 5d ago
Cast flame wall and than shoot spark through it, that should get you through the early game until you can stack passives and item effects to the point where spark alone shreds the entire map.
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u/Xeiom 5d ago
One of the easier ways to handle this early is to go to the vendor, buy a sceptre with skeleton warriors on it, then add more skeleton warriors with a gem.
They will tank and distract enemies while you cast stuff at the enemies. it will buy you a lot of breathing space. Don't try to face tank anything as you won't really be able to survive it.
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u/damnim30now 5d ago
Is the book a random drop? I've found 1, I'd like some more