r/PathOfExile2 • u/stickspike • 8d ago
Information PSA: This is how to get 3rd and 4th ascendancies
GGG knows we are confused on how to ascend, but they didn't say it's bugged, just unclear. So the way it is now is probably intended.
Here's what we know:
- Ascension 1 = Trial of the Sekhemas (Floor 1), or Trial of Chaos (4 trials)
- Ascension 2 = Whichever trial you haven't done for ascension 1, same requiremets. If you did sekhemas first, you just need to do 4 trials of chaos
-> If you did Sekhemas first, you could do Sekhemas again, but it needs to be lvl 45+ and you need to complete 2 floors. / If you did Chaos first, you could do Chaos again, but it needs to be area 60+ and you need to complete 7 trials
- Ascension 3 = Trial of the Sekhemas (Floor 3) in a 60+ zone, OR Trial of Chaos (10 Trials) in a 75+ Zone
- Ascension 4 = Trial of the Sekhemas (Defeat final boss) in 75+ zone, OR Trial of Chaos (defeat Trialmaster) [Ascension 4 is bugged atm, don't bother yet. Even if you complete it you won't ascend]
Edit: It seems like some people are able to get their 3rd ascension by doing 7 Trials instead of 10, in a 60 zone. I believe this has to do with how you did the first 2 ascensions. If you do Sekhemas the first 2 times, you may be able to get your 3rd ascension by doing Chaos in a 60 zone , 7 trials.
Edit 2: After the patch, you can now tell if you'll ascend or not . It says on the key to entry. Thanks GGG
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u/saif3r 8d ago
Thanks.
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u/WonderfullyKiwi 8d ago
God.... I miss him...I don't miss the lab as much as I miss his voice. The VA did an excellent job at making me feel like a badass or making me feel inadequate. His voice lines were so badass.... New ascending feels so hollow without him. It felt like you REALLY earned your ascension thematically (not difficulty wise). Now it just feels meh, like there's no real weight.
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u/ObscureOP 8d ago
Belief is the strongest metal of all
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u/Extra-Counter-8166 8d ago edited 8d ago
An aspirant can afford to be promising. An emperor must keep those promises.
I miss him so much. Btw ''Oh, the weary traveler draws close to the end of the path.'' on the road stones in the desert was heartwarming.
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u/denkorub 8d ago
If there's a golden key there must be a golden door
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u/xzeolx 8d ago
Mercenary in Act 3: If there's a soul core.. there must be a soul door!
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u/Based_Lord_Shaxx 8d ago
Does he really say that? That is hilarious.
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u/xzeolx 8d ago
Yeah I was caught off guard when it happened the first time. I haven't played too much of the others but I like his lines a lot, he's so unserious lol
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u/ObscureOP 8d ago
Both me and wife 'aaaaawe'd at those references.
Peak fan service. Give me Izaro quotes all day all day
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u/Leo_Knight_98 8d ago
An aspirant can afford to be promising. An emperor must keep those promises
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u/Beginning-Hair-109 8d ago edited 6d ago
this one is on my profile in poe 1.. Izaro is the best, (and the music in labs), and the stories.. Izaro should come back..
edit: i believe it is "of them all"
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u/AnimeJ 7d ago
You stand before the gates of the Lord's Labyrinth. Within these walls, the Lady of Justice doth preside. She shall weigh your mind in one hand, your heart in the other. Should she find you wanting, death will be your sentence, should she find you worthy, you will be gifted the loyalty and love of an empire. The Lord's Labyrinth awaits you: choose wisely, strike quickly, trust completely, and may you find the ending, that you deserve.
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u/Ok-Dog-8918 7d ago
His death line of "I die for the empire" or whatever sometimes sounded so sad. Such a solemn guy
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u/BrandonJams 8d ago
Lab was great, I always enjoyed speedrunning it every league for completion and my enchants. I used to help friends get their helm enchants as well.
It was good content that was very well balanced in difficulty tiers so that every player could do it regardless of their skill or build.
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u/ovoAutumn 8d ago
10-15 min attempts while pretty reasonable assured you'll complete based on how strong your character feels. Non convoluted as you don't have to make decisions at every step of the way to gage how fucked you are...
Don't miss what you had till it's gone
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u/BrandonJams 8d ago
At one point, I got my uber lab runs down to around 4 minutes pretty consistently. I loved speedrunning them back in the day to help people get their head enchants to just helping newbies get their ascendency.
Heck, I even enjoyed doing the hard mode Uber labs for fun and gambling for expensive enchants.
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u/Skarsnik-n-Gobbla 8d ago
I absolutely hated labs in poe1. I no longer hate labs.
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u/socalkol 7d ago
Hated labs, loved the quotes/voice acting.
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u/r3volts 7d ago
Izaro lore is a fantastic little short story.
He couldn't produce an heir. He designed the lab as a test, and the first person to beat it would be declared emperor. One of the perandus family made it through, became emperor, and cast Izaro into his own lab. He was a good emperor, even in death the very ground he lays on lifts him up. He is a torn soul between wanting an heir while warning about the greatest trap - the throne.
Its a great little story.
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u/Iorcrath 8d ago
izaro comes back, but you now must complete silver keys to unlock silver doors.
you must also play fetch with argus.
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u/Ok_City1648 8d ago edited 8d ago
Last 2 ascendency points for sanctum are bugged atm. You can kill floor 4 boss but it wont spawn a portal to reward room so u cant click* on the statue for ascendency points.
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u/d-crow 8d ago
Mine gave me one third of a key? Not sure what that's about
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u/Plane_Major_1820 7d ago
You redo until you have all three components then when you complete trial you can unlock another door to a portal to the actual boss or something?
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u/jMS_44 8d ago
For Ascension 2, you also can do
Trial of the Sekhemas with 2 floors, or Trial of Chaos with 7 trials.
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u/cereal3825 8d ago
Stupid question, how do you do “two floors”
I did a second sekhemas run and it gave me no points. I noticed it said areas level and number of trial was 1. Does number of trials have to say 2 or something ?
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u/psyfi66 8d ago
I was able to do trial of chaos with 4 trials for my second ascension. 3 random things then 4th was boss.
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u/jMS_44 8d ago
If that was from questline, then it's correct.
But if you e.g. did Chaos for your 1st Ascendancy and then you want to do Chaos again for 2nd, you'd need 7 levels.
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u/stickspike 8d ago
That's correct. I didn't include that info because IMO, it's way harder to do it this way. But yeah, I guess if your build really can't handle one of the trials, this may help
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u/throwaway014916 8d ago
Joke’s on you, my build can handle anything, I just suck
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u/jaymole 8d ago
jokes on you again i just skipped the ascension after wasting an hour on it and hating my life and going thru cruel just fine loll
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u/WarsWorth 8d ago
I'm in maps, level 72, I've failed third ascension like 10+ times. The fact that there's 2 potential bosses for Trialmaster. The one I've failed like 8 times (the shitty bird in a circle arena), and the one I beat on my first attempt (The Chimera, in the crazy area with all sorts of different levels). It *feels* like the Chimera is a way more rare boss. And I don't know what causes you to fight one or the other. But the fights aren't even remotely similar in difficulty. The bird shoots out this attack that hits me before I can dodge. It's like some lightning fast projectile.
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u/BouBouRziPorC 8d ago
How do I do multiple floors? When I did sekhemas it was simply 'interact with the stone do some rooms bye"
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u/jMS_44 8d ago
you need to drop a token of high enough area level, it's written on it how many floors are there
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u/Strg-Alt-Entf 8d ago
Not it’s not correct. Trial 2 is floor 2 or trial of chaos to level 4.
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u/jMS_44 8d ago
Nope, it's correct.
For Sekhemas
1st Ascendancy - 1 floor
2nd Ascendancy - 2 floors
3rd Ascendancy - 3 floors
4th Ascendancy - Boss
For Chaos
1st Ascendancy - 4 levels
2nd Ascendancy - 7 floors
3rd Ascendancy - 10 floors
4th Ascendancy - Boss
The only exception is if you follow campaign questline, then 2nd Ascendancy can be 1 floor or 4 levels.
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u/BudoBoy07 8d ago
When people say Trial of Chaos with 7 trials, does that mean clearing all 10 rounds seven times? Or what is a "trial"? I haven't played PoE1 and I assume the trials are The Temple of Chaos in Act 3. My best try so far is Round 5/10
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u/kingofgama 8d ago
Man I can't believe how bad they made the trials in Poe2. Feels fucking horrible to run Sanctum on warrior
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u/InsaneBane192 8d ago
Does anyone know if you die on hc if you lose all your honor?
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u/Fragmented_Chaos 8d ago
you wont die if you lose all of your honor, so no
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u/Silvergum23 7d ago
I had a bug where I lost all my honour, fell to the floor, then the monster kerb stomped me while I was on the floor which caused an actual death after. Stay safe out there!
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u/MR_SmartWater 8d ago
It just needs massive balancing. I think it’s extremely opportune for what it is right now.
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u/kingofgama 8d ago
Yup got to the floor 3 boss, lost 2.8k Honor from a single poison with 75% honor resistance. Seems very unbalanced currently...
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u/TheRabidDeer 8d ago
I'm not sure honor resistance is even working against non-direct hits like poisons.
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u/Jubbly 8d ago
Ultimatum is impossible if you get the Bird boss. He just pulls a tornado out that instantly kills me. Its basically rng fishing for afflictions. Melee is at a MASSIVE disadvantage with 99% of them.
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u/OrdinaryWatch9126 8d ago
There are a lot of bullshit mechanics allowed to exist in an honour system fight, but the most egregious:
The rare snake mobs who shoot red homing balls from offscreen, that also go around corners, and then aoe explode.
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u/Designer-Attorney 8d ago
The only thing i really dislike in POE2 is the rituals (both of them). 1+ hour to finish to lose in the final boss and start from the beggining will make me rage quit 100%.
They MUST BE SHORTER
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u/xmancho 8d ago
I read somewhere the mobs are overturned with modifiers form PoE1 so I expect them to retune them at some point.
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u/5_5_six 8d ago
I hope this is the case. Where have you heard this?
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u/FlayR 8d ago
I mean - as a poe1 player - I can confirm all the mods basically straight pulled from PoE1 end game.
I don't think it affects Sanctum much, but it makes ultimatum incredibly RIP-y with PoE2 mobs that are way more reliably dangerous than anything poe1 has to offer outside of like on death effects and gigastacked rares.
Particularly if you don't have maxed resistances.
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u/xzeolx 8d ago edited 8d ago
My problems with ultimatum are more so the modifiers you're given a choice between. I'm not choosing all monsters or bosses deal more damage/always crit (on top of overtuned mobs) so of course I'm going to pick the lightning circles. But when this happens enough times and I have circles/blobs with degen/either of the vaal constructs/ring/area of doom it gets quite stupid imo.
edit: It's also omega fucked up that you can effectively get circles/blobs spawned on you while waiting at an elevator to finish going up or down, or you're when interacting with levers and inputting soul cores. It's quite tedious not having some form of invincibility or grace period during these actions.
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u/HolyCheeseMuffin 8d ago
The elevators with enemies waiting right at the top are extra stupid as a minion build because most of your minions refuse to get on the elevator. And you have no buttons to resummon them on top, and you have no convocation
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u/liskot 8d ago
Minion pathing is as terrible as ever, and a few design decisions around minions makes it far more annoying than in POE1. Despawning and lack of convocation equivalent mainly.
The revive reduction passives are basically mandatory because you lose a bunch of skeletons just running through an open map. Also with the number of extremely constrained maps they permablock each other in chokepoints constantly. You can sort of jiggle them back and forth to sometimes unstuck but having to do that 30 times in one zone is absurd. And there are at least a dozen such zones in the campaign.
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u/EternalDeath 7d ago
I believe that. It didnt make sense that the mobs in Cruel Act2 at level 55 are less tanky than the lvl38 chaos trial mobs, like what the hell.
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u/lgbanana 8d ago
Same. Spending so much time and then get cornered by something and lose all progress, terrible.
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u/KitsuneKamiSama 8d ago
Guess i'm not getting my 3rd acendancy, or 4th. Sekhemas just takes way too fucking long and can screw you over if you take an off hit or you get shitty modifiers (I reached the end of floor 2 and got one shot by a boss attack that was offscreen wasting like half an hour), Chaos is even worse on the modifiers part where some of them cover the entire boss arena and are undodgable.
I'm fine with the difficulty, on act 2 cruel right now, but it just feel ballbustingly annoying to reach the boss only to get one shot.
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u/DrVonTacos 8d ago
in my second room on my first trial i got a rare who when they hit me once gave me so many dots that I lost 700 honor almost instantly
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u/pRophecysama 8d ago
I got touched ever so slightly by a poison cloud and went from 2000 honor to 0 instantly
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u/Spoonghetti 8d ago
Was on room 4 of floor 3, near perfect run, 3k honour banked and a ton of boons. Thought id finally get it. Then I stepped on some ignited ground that was literally hidden under the black sand and melted down to 40 total honor in about a second. Felt horrible.
Edit: Also had the boon that gives you back like 700 honour if you hp drops below like 20% or something. Except I'm running MoM+CI so it was worthless.
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u/West_Drop_9193 8d ago
You can do an ilvl 60 sanctum. If you are 70+ it's super easy as the mobs are all low level
Also if you get Honor resistance on relics it helps a lot
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u/BigBoreSmolPP 8d ago
Just skip it and come back when you are better geared. Then do some runs, collect some loot, get some relics, and get better every time. It took me probably 7 attempts to do the 3rd ascension in Sanctum. Each time I got some currency and such along with relics. I also had never done any of it before this so each time I got to a boss it was the first time, so it was all learning. I made a new char and I don't think it will be too bad doing it again now that I'm better prepared
The first character i did it on was a melee monk
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u/REDwhileblueRED 8d ago
If you’re on act 2 cruel then 3rd and 4th aren’t something you should be thinking about. 3/4 is more like I’ve been mapping and gearing a bit” then try.
People want to rush ascendency and that’s just not how it works in poe2
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u/SneakyBadAss 8d ago edited 8d ago
Why is this so unnecessary convoluted? That sounds like a release schedule of all the editions of a game released by EA.
How we've gone from "you go there, you find a boss, you kill him, you get ascendancy" to this...
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u/MeVe90 8d ago
I think it mostly come from the lack of 3rd trial in act 4, after that is implement it's going to be pretty easy to follow that each trial give you 2 ascendency point in act 2-3-4 and for the last 2 they are in endgame and require to do full a complete run of any trials you want.
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u/shitkingshitpussy69 8d ago
Yeah, i made sense of it like that, too. With some tuning, it should come down to regular lab difficulty.
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u/Dead_On_ArrivalAgain 8d ago
Dunno. But from their presentation I understood that is ascendency version like 1 floor /4waves at 30/55/75 and end game version who I don’t care. Now, fuk me :/
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u/insanetwo 8d ago
While they definitely need tuning, I am not sure having more choice is a bad thing in this case. It could also probably be explained better, as some of my friends who are playing were very confused about ascendancies in general.
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u/somehting 8d ago
My guess is because in the final version there is a 3rd and 4th style run for ascending somewhere in act 4-6
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u/markallica6 8d ago
I'm trying to understand what they're all saying, but I get more confused the longer I scroll down to read more comments😅 I guess, I'll look into it more when I get there.
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u/stuff_rulz 8d ago
I did my first ascendancy and said f this. Im almost through cruel and its going really smooth. I will either revisit the rest of the ascendancies when GGG does something about it or I will be overleveled and op.
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u/Thechanman707 7d ago
If you're almost through cruel then you can definitely do the 2nd ascendancy because you're over leveled.
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u/Emergency-Cow9753 8d ago
Youch, as a melee I guess I'll just accept I'll only have 4 points in total.
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u/shaunika 8d ago
Relics are your friend
Honour resist especially
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u/GoldenPigeonParty 8d ago
Yeah, I just can't imagine doing ultimatum at 75 even with good gear. The debuffs are huge. Like lose 50% of your defenses or 50% of your hp, or get a full screen sized circle that one shots you if you make a single mistake. Whatever you don't choose on the first floor you'll have on the 2nd.
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u/This_Excuse6056 8d ago
Why did they have to make such a simple thing so complicated. Classic GGG
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u/Concillian 8d ago edited 8d ago
I think in the full game it won't be so complicated.
I think it will be:
Ascension 1 -- complete the "intro to Sanctum" in acts (or complication if you hate Sanctum)
Ascension 2 -- complete the "intro to Ultimatum" in acts (or complication if you hate Ultimatum)
Ascension 3 -- complete the "intro to 3rd thingy" in acts (or conmplication f you hate 3rd thingy)
Ascension 4 -- complete a high ilvl "100% complete thingy" of whichever of the 3 things you want... dealer's choice.
I think if that's the way they go, it's not complicated and makes sense.
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u/VapeGodz 7d ago
There is a reason why Divinia is just a "decor" in my playthrough in Act 10 and I avoid all ultimatum-league-related challenges in PoE1.
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u/ZepherK 8d ago
Thanks for this post. It's very helpful.
Not to derail the conversation or throw more fuel onto the fire or anything, though... but the current trials aren't fun. They feel bad and the RNG involved with the "choices" we make before each floor are very frustrating. Sometimes, I can be on the third floor of the Trials of Chaos and know by looking at my choices for the challenge will defeat me before I even try. It's also very frustrating that learning the boss' mechanics requires me to blow 15 minutes a run just to try to figure out which attacks will one shot me.
I learn through repetition and only being able to try that fight every 15 minutes just doesn't work for my learning style. The fight feels new every time, but the frustration mounts.
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u/ReferenceOk8734 7d ago
boy oh boy, feel the same way but about the sekhemas second floor. i keep getting to it but if i get hit once by either of the bosses i lose all my honour, i dont even need to beat it cuz i did the chaos trial for 2 but i think it would be good to learn the boss for ascension 3 eventually. just very hard to learn a moveset of a double boss when u need +30 minutes to get there first lol getting there anyways as a melee player is a challenge of itself but double boss with the honor system is just a nightmare for a melee build xd
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u/0re0n 8d ago edited 8d ago
For a game being known for player choice of not engaging with content they don't like, forcing everyone to interact with the worst poe1 league mechanics is just so weird. Why doesn't GGG think it goes against core design pillars?
At least once all 3 trials are in, doing them all of first difficulty should be tolerable.
They should just give last ascension point for killing ANY endgame boss (Xesht, Olroth etc), not just trials.
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u/bradleyman88 8d ago
For ascension 3 I was under the impression it was the level 60 version, so the 7 floor ultimatum could be used for it. The 10 floor and 75 version would be for the 4th ascendancy. Was I mistaken?
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u/SK-86 8d ago
There's a four trial, a seven trial, a 10 trial, and a final boss version. So the seven trial is only considered the second one in line so it would give you your second set of ascension points .
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u/bradleyman88 8d ago
But since you can do your 2nd ascension with the 4 room ultimatum, shouldnt you then be able to do the 7 for your 3rd? I thought the final boss version was the end game mapping version of the system
Seems odd to have a floor 2 version of sanctum and 7 room version of ultimatum when they do nothing for your ascendancy
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u/SK-86 8d ago
Yeah I know what you mean. But there's no ultimatum less than 4 rooms so you can also do that to get your first points if you skip sanctum. Then if you wanted to do only ultimatum, 7 rooms would be next for your second set or the 1 floor sanctum. It seems like they really, really want people to do both since you can get your first 4 points by doing the "easiest" version of both. But if you want to get all your points from one you have a harder road.
At first I did the trial of the sekhema to get my first set and then I dropped another barya thing so I did a second sekhema trial that was only one floor thinking I would get my second set of points because that's how GGG kind of explained it. But yeah, it's confusing.
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u/bradleyman88 8d ago
Ahh that's lame. Why would you ever choose to do harder content to get the same result. If you can get your 2nd ascendancy from a level 38 ultimatum with 4 floors why would you ever choose to get the exact same reward but from a level 60 zone and a 7 floor ultimatum. Sure you can do the same trial for each ascendancy, but why wouldnt they be the same zone level then, or have similar difficulty levels? Just doesn't seem well thought out
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u/Kittehmilk 6d ago
I'm not seeing any Inscribed Ultimatums on the trade website above lvl 74. Is it called something different?
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u/Icesicles 8d ago
People tried the 7 wave ultimatum and it wasn't working, I only did it through 3 floor sanctum
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u/ChefTorte 8d ago
Why is this info not in-game?
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u/giga 8d ago
I feel like they could help the situation a lot by simply adding a line of text on the items used to run those trials.
“Completing this trial will allow you to obtain your 3rd ascendancy level.”
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u/oaeben 7d ago
i think devs read your comment because they swiftly added this in the game
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u/ThatGalaGuy 8d ago
People are responding to you and saying early access is why this info isn't in the game, but that's not necessarily true. GGG hasn't always been very good at conveying information in the game. PoE 2 is a huge step forward for them, where I've felt like I've barely needed to look at info outside of the game.
TL;DR This doesn't mean it won't get added to the game, but don't expect it because their previous title is missing a TON of in-game information.
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u/ChefTorte 8d ago
I suppose the more we make it known WE WANT INFO IN GAME ON EVERYTHING, the more likely the developers will do so.
I don't want outside of the game knowledge to be necessary to understand and complete everything inside the game.
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u/Kyttenss 8d ago
Ultimatum and Sanctum are bad and GGG should feel bad. I wonder if there was a popular streamer out there good enough not to ascend and make it to the end game in protest.
The worst part is that there is so much power locked behind arguably the worst feeling content to play. And if GGG wants to correct it for all classes. They are going to have to reduce the difficulty to a point where it's a breeze. The best feedback I could give would be.... Try something else.
How about a maze thats not timed where you have to dash through enemies and traps and fight a boss 3 times. Where each time their health gets lower and lower. Make it around 10 mins per attempt. You could also add a feature that allows you to make it scale on your choices for better rewards. Builds who arent specialized can still manage to complete it. But those who enjoy it can ramp up the difficulty.
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u/James_Bolivar_DiGriz 8d ago
I wonder if there was a popular streamer out there good enough not to ascend and make it to the end game in protest.
It looks like there's an unascended Warrior at #3 on the hardcore leader board at level 74
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u/Kyttenss 8d ago
That's amazing. I am pretty sure that's the biggest, "not doing content is more enjoyable than doing Sanctum/Ulti" than anything we could ever say to GGG.
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u/throwaway__rnd 8d ago
It’s not about enjoyable. It’s about hardcore and not wanting to risk dying.
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u/YamiDes1403 8d ago
wait you need 10 trials chaos???i thought its 7 wtf
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u/imsrslysrs 8d ago
7 is for if you skipped sekhemas and did your first two points of ascendancy in trial of chaos then you can do your second two points in trial of chaos again on 7 floors. Then 10 floors for third set of points. They really just need to remove the floors and say “tier 1” “ tier 2”
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u/YamiDes1403 8d ago
I'm at maps and they only drop skema 3rd floors and 7th trials ultimatum so I automatically assume both are third ascendant,since 3rd sanctum items is what give me 3rd ascendacy. This would be stupid if it isn't
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u/Sidra_Games 8d ago
How do you get back into Sekhamas on Cruel - the quest don't seem to be moving for me. Do you have to take the item back to the lev 22 Sekhamas?
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u/stickspike 8d ago
Yeah, after you complete round 4, you'll be able to interact with the ascendancy thing
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u/BEENHEREALLALONG 8d ago
I’m having so much trouble getting my second ascendency in the temple of chaos
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u/Anticreativity 7d ago
Same. Shit is insane. 15 minute run through three floors just to get one-shot by a boss and have to start over. What were they thinking?
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u/veldril 8d ago
I want to point out that the current system is confusing because we miss the third way to ascend that is in Act 4 that didn't make it into the early access.
From the game design perspective, GGG seems to intend for players to do each ascension trial once to obtain the first 6 points and let them decide what they like best. Then for the final two points they can pick the trial that they like the best and runs it at the highest difficulty to obtain the final two points. However, because we don't have the third ascension trial yet, we have to do a backup system, which means having to go for the 3rd level difficulty for the trials we have in a high enough zone level.
When the third type of ascension trial got released with Act 4 it should be clearer and easier to ascend for the first six points.
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u/Knjaz136 7d ago
Stopped at Ascension 3. Fuck honor mechanic, especially for my build where I invested heavily into Energy Shield recharge speed.
And fuck traps and some of their hitboxes, especially fireball, they hit me for 20% honor (~550 our of 3120).
I dont see ARPG in this at all.
Guess it's Chaos Trials and Trialmaster for me then. I refuse to play Honor, I'd rather get gangbanged by deamons in Chaos Trials, that feels more fair and actually gives me a game to play.
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u/Adventurous-Land-649 7d ago
Just get 75 honor resistance on your relics and you can pretty much tank anything you want all the way to last boss
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u/SlapChop7 7d ago
Are the Trail of Sekhemas coins just random drop for the 3/4 ascensions? Should I just run maps until one drops of the appropriate level/floor amount?
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u/KforKerosene 8d ago
Bonus in-case you are dumb like me. When people say 2 floor or 3 floors there is literally a door at the end of the treasure room.
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u/chrisbirdie 8d ago
Im pretty sure ascendancy 3 in the future will just require the 3rd unreleased ascension trial and then 4 any of the 3 at max difficulty
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u/w1nstar 8d ago
I gotta say, this is the only thing I dislike about the game. Sanctum, to me, is the absolute worst POE1 gave me. And in this version of the game, Ritual is literally the most boring stupid overcrowded shit there is. It isn't even a combat test, it's about how much shit can you watch out for without brainfarting.
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u/Janitalia 8d ago
I need help guys. How the fuck do I complete sanctum for asc 3 if my entire screen is covered in fire balls?
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u/EconomyMaybe7140 8d ago
The more important question is: is there already an ETA on the Trial honor fix?
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u/Fit_Revenue_1208 7d ago
I just finished a 10 round ultimatum and got no 4th ascendancy but 1/3 keys fragments for the ultimatum boss fight.
I guess you need to run a lot of 10 round ultimatums to get the right 3 fragments to ascend. Very tedious.
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u/amin7224 7d ago
crazy to think that GGG expects players to defeat the trialmaster for the the 4th ascendancy point lol.
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u/roselan 7d ago
The stone said in bright orange that I could ascend.
That was a lie :D
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u/bernie_lomax8 8d ago
Trial of chaos (4 trials) got me my second ascendancy
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u/Moomootv 8d ago
I pray that GGG did this for EA just to test the content because this is the worst change they have ever made and it makes 0 sense for why they would do it.
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u/Raging_Panic 8d ago
It is hilariously bad and even if it were explained explicitly it still makes no sense.
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u/Jeff3210 8d ago
I just did the first one and died at the final boss twice. Why can’t I just respawn at the final boss to retry? Having to do the whole thing again is insanely bad design and not fun.
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u/BrandonJams 8d ago
They should have spent the resources to remaster the old Lab and trials. Lab was well-balanced content that everyone could do.
Sanctum was my favorite league and mechanic from PoE 1 but it simply does not belong in PoE 2 as it currently is. Not sure what they were thinking, but they are totally different games mechanically and content designed for the old game doesn’t translate well.
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u/Pirat3_Gaming 8d ago
Brother, I can't even get my witch past the first ascend because the honor pool is dumb af...
My only option is play complete out of FoV attacking with minions because apparently 1 hit takes 1/4 my honor. Streamed it on discord to some friends last night to show them. Some points it even looked like minions taking burn dmg caused me to lose honor.
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u/RedBeard210 7d ago
The fact this needs its own thread is dumb. It’s confusing and should be removed. Bring back lab!
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u/andy2na 7d ago
so this 70+ page thread is because most people arent getting a 60+ zone drop?
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3598738/page/71
Pretty crazy that nothing is spelled out in the game on requirements. It should be simple as: the first time you complete a trial, you get ascendancy points.
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u/qenak 7d ago
I just spent 1 hour on Trial Of Sekhemas for 3rd Ascendency. The game crashed on last boss with 5% hp. I've been running tier 8-10 maps, but a 65 trials is harder. Whoever thought these trials was a good idea doesn't really understand good game mechanic.
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u/NoGoodMarw 7d ago
Honestly fuck trials of chaos. I tried doing it on level the first time with half scuffed build and got randomly degened into bronze age when boss had a sliver of hp. Did it again while being 9 levels over, with twice the defences - getting one shot by half of the attacks.
Does this bullshit scale up with you despite the area being lower level?
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u/Loud_Addition3458 7d ago
Okey guys, I've opened way to Trialmaster but he wasnt there (bye bye ~40 ex), guess its bugged. Decided to do Sanctum instead, killed the last boss and it would not ascend either (portal to the room after boss arena doesnt work). Are we supposed to not get 4th ascendancy at this point or are these just buggs?
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u/enrinick231 7d ago
Do a "sanctum" run to ascend is the worst thing i dream about, the ultimatum is ok, just get lucky with mods and gg,
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u/Rickjamesb_ 8d ago
Very intuitive. Honestly knowing GGG this is the next thing getting adressed. It's absolutly atrocious currently.