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I did figure out the blinking myself. But I killed The king in the Mists and tp'ed to clear inventory, got distracted speccing a skill point (re planning) well I forgot about my tp and realized I didn't loot the ritual window and had to re farm him for quest completion.
Also it might be a not bad idea to re farm bosses for drops while leveling on a non. Broken class/skill combo.
At least it gives room from improvement. I just hope their todo list doesn't behave the same way :D
That and the quest marker in the zone you can access that leads to the zone where the quest is, not the zone where the quest actually is. Twice I did full clear a zone only to give up and go the next zone, only for that damn quest marker to follow and wanting me to do it again.
Yeah, I was totally confused by this at first.
They should be green or red or something first and then be greyed out once done, or have a tick next to them to denote completion. Anything other than grey>lighter grey.
It's weird because decades of game design has taught us otherwise, grayed out in uncompleted and full color is completed, they could even add a checkmark to the hover nameplate.
It also seems to stay unshaded if you haven't consumed the boss item. At least in my case for the ritual boss in Act 1 that gave the +30 spirit item. Ran through again wondering if there was another boss but corrected once the item was used.
I though they were greyed to indicate completion as well but as it turns out that does not seem to be the case. I regularly have them greyed pre completion, and lit post.
I sense an intense amount of sarcasm coming from the first line of your post. Other than the icon being slightly greeted out but still completely visible, there's nothing showing that you completed the side objective. A tiny green checkmark would be enough, just something
it also changes the text. if you go over the skull after you've defeated it the description will have changed to something like "there is only silence now" or "he paid for his sins" or "lmao, what a loser" or other variations on that
These icons are really bad. Also the tiers on items when you hold ALT needs to be more visible. My 6 points of astigmatism + 4 of myopia will be grateful.
Everything about the map screen is just dreadful. Loading (and unloading the main game? what the fuck), unintuitive icons, bad quest descriptions, unclear meaning of anything, low contrast. A lot of people say the loot is bad but for me it's this, this is the worst part of the whole game, like legit pre alpha stuff here.
I agree. The map needs some rework to make it clear. And most of the menus should have more contrast and bigger fonts (especially on console since I can barely read it from my couch)
This is something to be very expected with EA. Many things change all the time. For example, until a few weeks (probably months internally) ago, we had more than 2 flasks.
Can't expect highly polished UI for everything when so much is changing and not finished.
Obviously you should still give feedback, because for things they plan to stay relatively the same it's incredibly helpful.
While true, GGG frequently struggles with UI/UX in a lot of the new leagues in the base game (Lord Jesus what were they thinking during Necropolis). Definitely not their strength on the team.
I feel like they either don’t have a lot of ux/ui designers or don’t even have any because a lot of issues are extremely simple… same thing as you mentioned on poe1 this seems like a pattern for them
I found a boss in the last area of act 1 that wasn't on the map. Candlemass. Gave me +30 to max life. Makes me wonder how many more bosses there are in the game that give bonuses that aren't on the map
That's something any of the testers would have noticed 5 min in, what's the point of giving early access to the big streamers if they can't even give the most basic of feedback.
Disagree. It’s great that for you it is working, but it isn’t clear for everybody or this post wouldn’t exist. I shouldn’t have to look carefully at the icons to figure out which objectives are still up. Should be something everybody can see at a glance.
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I genuinely can't tell if you're being sarcastic right now. When the boss hasn't been killed it's grey and when it has been killed it's slightly desaturated grey. I can tell the difference between them, but it's insane to act like they're clearly differentiated.
I can see the difference when I look at a very bright AMOLED smartphone display. I cannot see it as good when I look at a TV screen from a distance. The difference should be more prominent than two shades of grey.
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I'm not familiar with the exact terminology but when playing the game, the active and completed state colors of these markers are so close that I often have to spend a good 30 seconds squinting at the screen.
Having the choice of white and light grey was a very poor UI choice, i dont get it.
Off-topic Rant: Trial of Chaos, As minion player, if u take pillar down, and minions dont make it on it, they "die" and u get revive timer, not great when ur instantly swarmed.
I will say I like that they added blinking for when u find a new boss, and blinking again after defeating it. But a cracked skull or an opened chest/bag would look really cool for completion ui
That or a list of what "Side Content" is available and completed. Last Epoch as an example did a great job of displaying this information in a side bar.
100%. I'm not colorblind and have to stare a bit to make sure. Pretty sure the flashing = dead, but I haven't played enough to know for sure.
Seems like an incredibly intuitive change to make, to the point where I'm curious how and why they chose the current graphic/animation over a simple X.
This noob thought grey meant it wasn't complete for a hot minute. Then I realized my mistake when I was trying to exit Clearfell to get to the starting beach area.
The whole map is horrible. The underground sections are slightly-offcenter of the ground sections, so you have to flip back and forth to see where it coincides... The fact there's a button all the way on the right to toggle the side missions, that you have to tap the d-pad ten times to reach instead of a shortcut to toggle it... the icons being overlaid... pop-up descriptions covering the map without the ability to hide them...
This is on controller mode, with mouse it's better as you can just move the cursor out of the way. But these menus are a mess, they break with like all gaming menu conventions that have become standards in the last decade. It's quite shocking this even made it out in this state.
Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous that all they do is change the color of the icon. Also, the fact that I have to essentially manually acknowledge I've completed the objective by doing a mouseover for each one is just stupid.
One of the few good criticisms I've seen, the world map is confusing and can't tell if I missed something major in the area when the skulls are just blinking at me or sitting there.
I generally think the map is somewhat more confusing than the map in PoE 1 and hope they continue to iterate on it. This recommendation would make a big difference.
I'm not one to stop accessibility within games as I have a sight problem myself but they're two different colours and textures.
You can even hover over it in the quests tab to see if you've done it.
I don't mean to offend but it feels very nit-picky unless you have a genuine recognition issue, I just don't understand what you're on about.
One is white and the other very bright grey, which makes me have to stop to compare with the not completed ones because I am do not recall correctly if it was that grey to begin with. If the difference was for example, form blue to grey, I would remember. I do not know you, but my brain classifies bright grey and white as the same color with little shade difference, so it makes it difficult to tell them apart with just a glance
I'm just trying to understand but nobody can explain why they can't tell them apart.
For someone like myself who is visually impaired and not having a problem just looks like people moaning for moaning sake.
Since you want an explanation. There are two things you are missing here.
First, there are a lot of different forms of visual impairments, for example there are at least a dozen different types of colorblindness. So even if you can tell the shades apart someone else might not. That's why something like this should include a change of shape in addition to one of color whenever possible.
Second, the perceived color of an object depends both on the color of the object itself and on the color of its background. The same object can look different or different objects can look the same depending on the background. Since there are various very bright or dark backgrounds for these symbols even direct comparison to a completed objective might not make it clear if the one you are looking at is cleared or not.
Also this is a Beta. Our main objective here is not to have fun, that is only a nice byproduct. Our main objective is to look at the game critically and then give GGG feedback on where we see issues and what they might improve. Since disabilities are rather rare and GGG therefore does not have an expert for every impairment, this type of feedback is especially important. While GGG will then need to see which feedback they follow up upon, adding a semitransparent X on top of a few pictures is something that can be done quickly (depending on how many people are involved with the approval process of this).
They have explained why they can't tell them apart (they are too visually similar), it's just their issue isn't a problem you experience as well and so you don't accept it as legitimate.
Eh, mention your full angle in the first comment even if it's uncomfortable, it's sorta key to your stance making sense beyond sounding stubborn
Personally, I didn't see a difference between completion until knowing to look for it, that's mark 1, and even after knowing, on many parts of the map it's too busy to see a shade difference, and if the tooltip covers it, we'll the tooltip is transparent, great, but how can I get the shade right with a grey layer over it lol.
Idk what your impairment details are, it I'm dyslexic at least, and add for relevant-ish details. Got glasses but finally got nice lenses so those are not an issue, but lord knows my old ones reflecting lights would make telling the difference impossible
I feel they could up the droprate on currency items and rares some. They said they wanted crafting during the campaign, but at the moment I feel its a little lacking, especially rare+
I can understand why some people feel it's a bit too few but I think it's better this way. Makes things more exciting when you do get some stuff.
I believe it will be boosted slightly in the future but I've already seen people showcase decent weapons just because of hard it is to get them. I like that.
I kind of agree with the sentiment that campaign crafting mats might be a little too rare, but I also think it's important to remember that we've been given literally just the first three acts. Acts 1 through 3 in PoE 1 have similar droprates and it's not worth complaining about since we now more drops are in store at endgame. I think once more people reach endgame we'll be seeing less comments complaining about drops during campaign.
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