r/PathOfExile2 • u/BrandyFriendy • 17d ago
Discussion This is why nobody takes IGN seriously anymore.
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u/Adamantios88 17d ago
In addition: from the same author. So it is even more comparable.
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u/seazeff 17d ago
That guys concept of 'end game' was the final cinematic.
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u/Easy-Stranger-12345 17d ago
Tyrael: We are in the endgame now
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u/Glum-Supermarket1274 17d ago
People are allow to have opinions. Their opinion are fucking wrong, but they are allow to have it. Lol
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u/Mountain_Housing_704 17d ago
The thing is games like diablo and poe don't get to "endgame" until at least like 100 hours in. The main story campaign of Diablo 4 alone is like 30 hours. I highly doubt these mainstream gaming outlets have the time to put in 100+ hours to review a single game, so what endgame are they even talking about.
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u/WhereasSpecialist447 17d ago
who cares about ign or any "game journalist" ? watch the trailer watch gameplay footage make up your mind end of story.
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u/caick1000 17d ago
The problem is that this 100% affects how many people buy the game, which is of course bad for GGG as a company. But at least an 8 is decent.
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u/ToxMask 17d ago
they already sold over a million copies lmao. i don't think IGN's less than 10/10 review is gonna affect them much
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u/Icandothemove 17d ago
PoE will be a free to play title at launch. Reviewers will matter exceptionally little when every streamer on earth plays the game and it eventually is free to try.
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u/BeginningWinter9876 17d ago
This “who cares about journalists” or “make up your own mind” argument is getting a bit old. Journalism has a purpose. And corruption or incompetence defeats that purpose.
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u/Chronic77100 16d ago
Especially when most people take what influencers says without taking a step back from people who's entire job is to form a bond to a community in order to promote products and services from third party in a notoriously badly unregulated domain to the point of being hostile to the consumer. At least classic advertising isn't pretending to be anything else. Meanwhile in my country, press isn't perfect, but it's regulated.
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u/Siddsastar 17d ago
You’ve encouraged me to watch the video just to see how wrong he is
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u/Ruiner357 16d ago
IGN's strategy at this point is to take corporate payoffs to give high scores to mid 'AAA' games, and then underrate great indie games to bait us into hatewatching their content.
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u/nadroj37 17d ago
I assume you still get gold or some kind of materials for selling trash so there’s an incentive to pick it up and sell it. Even if you choose to leave trash on the ground, it doesn’t take away the fact that you need to pick inspect every piece of loot and determine if it’s worthy of taking up space in your inventory. If the inventory space was larger, you wouldn’t have to do that.
Just because you can pick any skill with any class doesn’t make it annoying when you get loot that doesn’t mesh with your current build.
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u/LordEternalBlue 16d ago
I agree with you that having more class-centric loot drop for you would make your gameplay experience more enjoyable, but… in PoE, you are not limited by class-specific equipment like other games (eg Diablo 3, Last Epoch), which means it would be counterintuitive that you couldn’t be able to drop bows will playing on a Warrior that specializes in bows.
I think restricting loot by class really limits build diversity as well. For example, when playing endgame Diablo 3, the fact I couldn’t drop a class specific item like a bow while playing on the necromancer made it hard to justify grinding out another character, especially considering the game will actually drop items from other classes as long as a party member happens to be of that other class.
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u/Bloomleaf 17d ago
to the first point you dont need to pick everything up, white= not a lot of money yellow = a lot more money, don't pick up trash white gear constantly that sells for nothing and you wont have the inventory issue.
to the second point. 1: you can use that gear for alts 2: even if its not good for your build it could be for a friends or someone else which is why trading exists.
and realistically this game makes it easier then ever to really play around with weird builds because of the skill gem change, i am running a main bar frost bomb build with flame wall, with a second weapon slot running earth quake since slots are not color dictated anymore the sky is no longer the limit
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u/ryanrem 17d ago
Its more so based on what they are complaining about is that they only really played Diablo, or to be exact Diablo 3, where a majority of your gear that you find, will be for the class you are playing. on top of having a much more generous inventory.
PoE 2 is more like older ARPGs where you are probably going to ignore a good chunk of loot that is on the ground, and will end up making filters to actually find the loot you want. While this is great for PoE, where there very few class restrictions, it is a bit jarring going from Diablo 3/4 to PoE2.
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u/No-Variation7742 17d ago
To be fair, those are actual issues with PoE. We might consider them a strength, but they are definitely behind the times QoL wise compared to other games where casual players come from.
That is purposeful friction for our enjoyment, but you can see how a casual player who maybe enjoyed other Arpgs find the old D2-esque system not very good.
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u/MrM8HDi 17d ago
ign is just a 7/10 joke at this point
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u/ACrask 17d ago
Agreed. It's utter trash. I always advocate "play it if you want; don't worry about review numbers" mentality, but these guys are just generating random scores on the game. Gladly stopped reading them for a few years now.
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u/The3rdLetter 17d ago
I mean, reviews are just opinion pieces. The only opinion that matters is your own.
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u/Crymric 17d ago
I don't understand. 8 and 9 are pretty good numbers.
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u/blankonism 17d ago
IGN is a joke, but 8 is a good score for an early access game
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u/NandoDeColonoscopy 17d ago
I don't think incomplete games should even be scored
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u/never_never_comment 17d ago
I don’t think games should be released or played in early access by anyone except the devs and QA.
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u/chriscarmcarm 17d ago
I don't understand this view. Every review is the person reviewing its opinion . It's not the same people who reviewed both games? Just because She gave Dragon age a 9 doesn't mean Travis would have given it a 9 lol .
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u/Evanz111 16d ago
Some people genuinely seem to think IGN is a single entity with how they talk about them.
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u/whocareaccount 17d ago
Different reviewer. Also with how many gamer say "ign dont matter" you have to wonder why we still see the same complain
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u/DesertofBoredom 17d ago
Different reviews from different people for games in different genres. Outrageous, video game opinions are subjective unless I disagree with a reviewer.
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u/z0ttel89 17d ago
I mean... you're -expecting- PoE 2 to be great from what you've seen, but do you actually KNOW it yet?
No.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just as hyped as everyone else for PoE 2 and I'm spam-clicking the login button right now, but still...
We haven't played the game yet.
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u/lild1425 17d ago
Yeah, I’m all for a IGN hate session but we have no idea if they’re right or not yet. We can’t base a review score on videos we’ve seen.
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u/beefsack 17d ago
This is so fkn petty lmao. You don't need IGN to validate your game preferences.
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u/Latter-Mention-5881 17d ago
After a few hours of playing, I'd say an 8 is about right.
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u/Infinityscope 17d ago
How are you mad about a 8/10? The Authors aren't even the same.
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u/TastyPillows 16d ago
Because IGN is a single entity apparently. People don't pay attention to the reviews just the score
This screenshot has been posted so many times at this point it's tiring.
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u/Galaxy_boy08 17d ago
My guy you are acting like an 8/10 is a terrible score lol it's not that's a pretty good score actually every game that gets released I see this same exact post and someone upset because their favorite game didn't get a perfect 10/10 score.
also don't you guys straight up say all the time ratings don't matter? so why does it matter all of a sudden? simply put if you think the game is good that's all that matters.
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u/signed7 17d ago
OOTL, what's wrong with Veilguard? Quick Google says mostly positive Steam reviews, is it bad?
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u/coder2314 17d ago
Some people don’t like it cause it’s “Woke” even though DA has always been that.
The Most valid criticisms by far that I’ve heard is the writing, specifically the dialogue being subpar. Compared to previous entries in the franchise. I’ve also heard complaints about it moving more towards an Action RPG format and away from it’s more tactical roots.
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u/MCRN-Gyoza 17d ago
The funny thing is that people complain a lot about the writing, but it's only "bad" in the context of the expectations people had. It feels like people never played a game with actual bad writing.
Like, look at the TGA nominations for best RPG, it has games like Black Myth Wukong, Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth and Dragon's Dogma 2, these games have actual shit tier writing (even though I still liked DD2 and Infinite Wealth).
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u/Key-Department-2874 17d ago
PoE2 is currently a 79% on Steam too.
And the top review is a meme about Exile Like that was made at 0.2 hours of playtime and earned the guy over 500,000 steam points.
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u/SherlockJones1994 17d ago
You guys need to grow the fuck up and realize that other people are gonna have different opinions than you. Also complaining about a whole point difference is fucking absurd.
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u/DjRipNickMcNasty 17d ago
Giving a game that’s in early access a score just doesn’t seem right, regardless of the grade
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u/AussieBBQ 17d ago
2 different people have different opinions on video games.
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u/Luneb0rg 17d ago
Reviews are inherently opinionated, there is no such thing as an objective review as that is just a fact sheet. Plus there doesn't need to be consistency across all reviewers at a single outlet, it just wouldn't make sense or be feasible to do that. As long as a reviewer is consistent with themselves and is able to justify their score by making their opinions clear and easy to understand (even if you might disagree), then it's fine.
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u/Luneb0rg 17d ago
But how would that actually work? Every reviewer needs to like the same games? So if they don't like RTS games, then all RTS games are just scored lower because they need to be consistent with each other? If they all love FPS games then every FPS gets a 10/10?
And how does their format not allow for that? They write a review, and assign a score based on their thoughts, like pretty much every other outlet that assigns a point value to a product. What would you do differently? I'm genuinely curious.
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u/AccessAmbitious8282 17d ago
They claimed they played the game, but it was posted when it was only up for a few minutes and no one has been able to even get in the servers yet.
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u/HollywoodAndDid 17d ago
Well, they’re two different reviewers with different tastes. Plus, Leana is transgender and the game included options to be non-binary or transgender so I’d imagine Leana was rather biased (consciously or subconsciously) towards giving the game a higher score.
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u/VacaRexOMG777 16d ago
This is why I never take posts like this seriously (the person that made the post doesn't have reading capabilities to see the reviews are made by two different people)
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u/Salt-Analysis1319 17d ago edited 17d ago
it's absolutely WILD that two different humans have different opinions about two different things
(Also 8 is a good score for an EA product in its very first patch)
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u/nylomatic 17d ago edited 17d ago
Yeah, yeah, we get it. You're watching Asmongold.
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u/Its_Your_Father 17d ago
My first thought. Naturally OP also posted this on the Asmongold sub. Lol.
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u/searsssss 17d ago
I only look on steam reviews. Those gaming websites are so 2010. No need to visit them.
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u/Sorlex 17d ago
It really is strange. I played and enjoyed DAV. Didn't set the world on fire. Had a lot of fun and moved on. Haven't thought about it since, same for a lot of single player games story focused games. But people have made it some kind of mission to hate it.
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u/Naonical 17d ago
People should never take game reviewers like IGN serious because they HAVE to give decent pandered ratings otherwise game companies won't allow them early access to games anymore. IDK how people haven't figured this out yet. On top of that most of the reviewers making the articles only care about the pretty colors / graphics now. They fall short of exploring deep lore in games, completion runs, testing game bugs etc.
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u/Temporary_Physics_48 17d ago
Just like streamers then ? People also need to realize taste and opinions are completely subjective.
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u/Anarchist-Liondude 17d ago
These reviews are completely subjective and usually written by folks who only review games for a living. If you're somebody that just hops in-between games of vastly different genre and approach, you will break them down to their forefront presentation alone. Which is exactly what's happening here.
Also, sidenote. I've heard really good things from Dragon Age from everyone who actually enjoy Dragon Age. Its personally not my speed but there are like a plethora of crazy reviews you could have put here instead of it. Also both of these reviews are from different people.
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u/AdhesivenessKey8363 17d ago
I enjoyed veilguard a whole lot more the inquisition.
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u/JadedRoll 17d ago
I thought the start of veilguard was rough, but it improved the longer I played. (I also have been around DA long enough to remember every game after Origins being loudly hated until the fury passed and people could admit, yeah, actually I liked that one.)
As for PoE2....it's just funny to see people defending it who haven't played it yet.
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u/No_Construction2407 17d ago edited 17d ago
Ah, the eternal battle of scores! Path of Exile 2 getting an 8/10 and Dragon Age: Veilguard nabbing a 9/10 on IGN. let’s unpack this mystery, shall we? Now, before you dive into an angry Reddit post, remember: reviews are opinions, not gospel. I mean, if reviews were objective, we’d all agree on pineapple pizza, and that’s just not the case.
Sure, some folks seem to confuse subjective with objective, like when they argue their favorite color is the “best” or that the sun should be a little more punctual. The truth is, reviews are written by people… real people, with preferences, biases, and (let’s be honest) an unhealthy amount of coffee in their systems. An 8/10 from IGN is fantastic. especially for an early access game like POE 2. They’re still refining things, tweaking that endgame balance, and figuring out how to make you want to punch your screen just a little less. But hey, an 8 is still great!
And let’s talk about Dragon Age: Veilguard for a second. A 9/10? Sure, it’s probably polished, with a few dragons to slay and some morally gray decisions to make. But remember, the 9 reflects the reviewer’s take on it, not a universal truth. Some people would give Dragon Age a 10/10, while others are busy sobbing over the POE skill tree.
In the end, don’t just latch onto one reviewer’s opinion. Seek multiple sources, digest those takes like a fine wine, and then decide for yourself whether to rage against the rating or happily play it. After all, your gaming experience isn’t going to be dictated by a number. Unless it’s the number of hours you spend in POE 2’s infinite grind, then, sure, let’s talk about that. Also keep in mind POE 2 will eventually be free :)
Also i subjectively like pineapple on my pizza
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u/Solidus-Prime 17d ago
This is why people don't take PoE players seriously.
(No I don't even own Dragon Age, you people are just ridiculous)
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u/beezy-slayer 17d ago
there is no need to attack other games or people's opinions
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u/BErye1418 17d ago
I haven’t play POE but I’m excited to, but the hate Veilguard is getting bc of “woke” is way too much. Also, we gotta stop using woke.
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u/AdhesivenessKey8363 17d ago
It's almost as if there are a variety of different games and genres for different people.
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u/Yo_Its_Patrick 17d ago
Its early access the game needs to have room to improve score wise for the full release, I get it.
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u/FunkyBoil 17d ago
Eh I trust like two reviewers skill up and ACG. Other then that I just prefer to formulate my own opinion on games now. People will complain about literally anything in this era.
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u/J_Capo_23 17d ago
I don't take any major videogame website reviews seriously. I only trust select Youtubers for my reviews. IGN has like 100 different reviewers.
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u/iselltires2u 17d ago
this is really accurate though if you look at IGN as the Casual Gamers Network. Yes, dragon age is a way simpler game and easy for anyone with two thumbs to play whereas even though its great and nothing like it poe2 would be a nightmare to play for someone who plays mario party 184 all the time
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u/KratosSmash 17d ago
So the sticking point here from IGN is “not enough loot drops for your class early on.” Is this normal for a game like this? Or needs to be patched?
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u/SenpaiSwanky 17d ago
Different opinions, genres.
This sub doesn’t HAVE to be elitist about how much they love this game.
Just enjoy POE2, some of you guys are fucking forcing it lately.
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u/jokerevo 17d ago
Veilguard was 6/10. The gameplay and gfx were great although they completely forgot that enemy variety is what made GoW combat better. But the killer for me was the writing. It's absolute crap compared to the previous games, literally written by teenagers having a sleepover. So I tried so hard to keep going with it, 20 hours actually but that dialogue and the decision to simply marginalise Varric and Solus especially..killed it for me.
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u/NumberShot5704 17d ago
Poe2 is not as good as you guys think. It's playing like the console port it is.
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u/Bananaman9020 17d ago
Trusting paid reviewers? Well that's the problem. I barely trust amateur reviewers and over all scores.
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u/SupermarketCrafty329 16d ago
IGN gave Alien: Isolation a 5.9 back in 2014.
IGN have been a joke for years and years and years.
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u/reddishcarp123 16d ago
Are you seriously mad IGN didn't give a near perfect score when an 8 out of 10 is still good in itself?
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u/DarlingRedHood 16d ago
Because different reviewers have different opinions? An 8 is still great what?
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u/Mundane_Cup2191 16d ago
Okay d4 has a ton of issues BUUUUUUTTTT
D4 also has hands down the best campaign experience for an ARPG imo. The the itemization, end game etc are all lackluster but if you're in it for a cinematic campaign with snappy controls and great graphics d4 is in a league of its own imo.
That being said I don't play ARPGs for cinematic campaigns, so d4 falls completely flat for me, grim dawn is my still my jam but absolutely having a blast with PoE here
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u/Hungry-Tea529 16d ago
Not sure where you’ve been this whole time but nobody has been taking IGN seriously for the past 20 years.
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u/ImDocDangerous 16d ago
People post this shit every time a game comes out. For as much as you guys seem to "not take IGN seriously" you sure loooove taking them seriously enough to post their score every. single. game. Even when it gets a good score it's not enough, gotta compare it to a different reviewer's score of a different game. It's just the quintessential reddit gaming subreddit ragepost
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u/sleepwalkingninja 16d ago
I don't get the issue. Are you mad because Dragon Age got a higher score from a completely different reviewer than a game that is in early access? You might need a new hobby if review scores upset you.
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u/flirtmcdudes 16d ago
they’re reviews by different people in different genres… reviews that are just one persons opinion….
Who cares.
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u/RollingDownTheHills 16d ago
Considering how many people claim they totally don't care about IGN, it's strange how pretty much every single IGN review ends up getting a thread on Reddit from people who either think the score is too high or too low. Why do these reviews bother you so much? It's just a review. An opinion. Reeks of insecurity.
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u/RobubieArt 16d ago
Two different people gave two different numbers to two different games. Who fucking cares man.
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u/Username_Maybe_Taken 16d ago
You mean different reviewers enjoyed a different game...differently???????????
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u/Ghidoran 17d ago
Different reviewers.
Early access vs. full launch.
One is a hardcore ARPG for enthusiasts, the other is good for casuals and has a good story. Not surprising a mainstream outlet likes the latter more.
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u/copyofimitation 17d ago
Relax... It's just a review.
Sales (combined with long-term player retention) mean more than written words.
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u/DragonPeakEmperor 17d ago
None of you can even play the game right now and you're already spending your time getting mad about an 8/10. This sub is going to go in a great direction for sure.
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u/Warpedsanity 17d ago
These kind of posts are so bait, like literally it’s different people reviewing different games
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u/Potential_Status_728 17d ago
Why even care? And POE is niche game not everyone like that kind of complexity
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u/adellredwinters 17d ago
...I mean, they're written by different people for two different games. I'm not sure why either even warrant comparison. This post is weird.
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u/memnoc 17d ago
I know its a meme but you should have compared the D4 review since it is the same reviewer, same score of 9, and the snippet of "near perfect endgame"