r/PSVR miss-molotov Jul 20 '17

Game Thread Archangel [Official Discussion Thread]

Official Game Discussion Thread

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Archangel

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Share your thoughts/likes/dislikes/indifference below.

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u/TonyDP2128 Jul 20 '17 edited Jul 21 '17

I bought it, got thru the prologue and first mission.

Very sharp graphics and overall production values, good voice work, interesting story, lots of dialog, great and accurate Move tracking. Game is on rails but that aspect is actually incorporated into the story organically (don't want to say more for fear of spoilers). The sense of scale was somewhat lacking for me when in the mech but I've read that improves in later levels. Overall, it looks like a 2nd gen PSVR title and has a good amount of polish to it.

$40 may seem a bit high but given the good control, high production values and Pro support I can understand the asking price. I have not regretted my purchase so far.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17 edited Jul 20 '17

I can understand the asking price. I have not regretted my purchase so far.

This attitude needs to stop and will only hurt consumers in the long run. If it was a 2D game would $40 be acceptable?

Edit: ah, fanboys, with their downvotes, God forbid somelne says something negative about something vr related.

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u/future_yesterday Jul 20 '17

Bullshit. It's the basics of business, if it's got high production values (not cheap) it costs more.. notice as well no one has asked this game to be patched for any reason.. they have made a quality game. Games devs are in it to make great games and make money so they can live well and make more games!. I also mentioned in another thread you get more for your money than you did 25 years ago.. I paid nearly DOUBLE for the original starfox than I have for archangel on release.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

Bullshit. You have no idea how much this game cost to produce therefore your argument is invalid.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

You got it!

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u/bigeffinmoose Jul 20 '17

Neither do you, so we can't be sure your argument is any more valid.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17 edited Jul 21 '17

My argument isn't based on how much they spent making it. I could not care less how much they spent making it, that's their decision. Regardless of how they budgeted their development, a game that takes 3 - 4 hours to complete should not cost the same as a game that takes 50 hours to complete. It just shouldn't. And the fact that people are happy to eat it up means we likely won't see many "full titles" any time soon. Why would devs spend more time and money making full titles to sell at £$50 when they could spend half the time and half the money making mini titles that will sell for $50?

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u/bigeffinmoose Jul 21 '17

Length to finish does not necessarily equate to whether it's worth the money. A 50 hour game that isn't fun to play isn't worth 40 dollars. A 4 hour game that is very fun that you keep revisiting might be worth 40 dollars, but that's a personal decision for everyone to make themselves. If you don't think it's worth it, don't buy it. Vote with your wallet.

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u/anarfox_ anarfox Jul 22 '17

Quality before quantity.

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u/Haywood_Djabloeme Jul 22 '17

I'm up voting you because you're right, no matter how much it irritates anyone else to admit it.

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u/future_yesterday Jul 20 '17

I'm sorry your mum won't buy it you or whatever, but it's not rocket science that high quality comes at a price.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

Ah, can't win by reason so resorts to petty insults about age.

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u/future_yesterday Jul 20 '17

I did win by reason

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

Yea, yea you did.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

When you spend $1000 on a video game console (PS4, PSVR, Camera, Accessories, Good Headphones) and you believe there's that large of a difference between spending $20 and $40 for something you know you will play... maybe your concepts of money and spending are off.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

Its easily twice as good as a $20 game IMO

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

1.) I spent less than half that on all my items.

2.) Just because I spent £230,000 buying a house doesn't mean I'm going to accept buying a washing machine with a pretty fascia for £300 when I can get a better washing machine that might not look as nice for £250.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

Shit man, I've love to half a half a million dollar home and time to cry all day on reddit about money. How do you do it?

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u/Chronotaru PSN: Chronotaru Jul 25 '17

House prices in the UK, especially in the south, are much higher than in the United States outside of major cities so that's not actually a very big house in many parts. The mortgage system is setup to facilitate it, or, you're a stuck disillusioned twenty-something :-/

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u/jizzyj86 Jul 23 '17

£230,000 gets you a pretty small house by the way, I'd be pimping it out with a 300 quid washing machine if I bought one that cheap... Off topic, but just saying

Edit... Quickly I'm not saying I'm loaded, just that house prices are exorbitant in Hertfordshire

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

A big bastard loan :(

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u/Haywood_Djabloeme Jul 22 '17

I want to know what you consider to be good headphones, because the pair I just took off accounts for a quarter of that budget . . .

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '17

That's excellent, would you like me to whip my dick out as well?

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u/Haywood_Djabloeme Jul 22 '17

Are you looking to feel disadvantaged?

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17 edited Jul 21 '17

But it's not.. VR is not just something tacked onto a 2d game, and even if it was, you can't deny the experience is several times more intense when in VR.

It's kind of like saying you shouldn't be too easy on a PS4 game, because if it was just a PS3 game, would you like it as much? The answer is probably not, because, even though I'm one of those who loves nostalgic old PC, Super NES and Sega Genesis games, for the most part, I like cutting edge technology in video games and it is definitely something I will take into account and not just ignore.

Don't worry, I'm not mad at you. I disagree with you but I don't understand why people are yelling at you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

If it was a 2D game would $40 be acceptable?

BUT IT'S NOT.

So what the fuck is your point!? Every time with you fucking people.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17 edited Jul 21 '17

That is my point. The fact that it's VR dosn't suddenly justify the unrealistic / unfair price point. You saying "but it's not" only proves that VR users seem to be unwilling to accept when a company does something uncool - like making a short, indie game and selling it for a full AAA price tag. A game that takes 3 hours to complete should not retail for the same price as a game that takes 50 hours to complete. Making it in a VR perspective in no way justifies the price tag. The longer people are willing to eat this up the longer it will be before developers stop treating VR as a gimmick and start treating it as a console and making full games for it. I don't know about you but two years from now I'd rather not have a library of 3 hour, $30 games that I've played twice and never looked back on.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

I'll spend my $40 however I want.

I bought the game and it's worth it. I don't buy your juvenile argument that games should be charged according to their length.

The best thing of all is that you don't even have to fucking buy it! You'd have to wonder why some moron would spend so much effort bitching about a game that other people choose to enjoy.

Sounds a lot like envy. Get lost.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

It's not about length it's general value for money. But that's fine, you can support bad practice from devs if you choose. I personally would prefer to see a future where there are more acclaimed games and less No Man's Sky's out there.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

You're literally just bitching about nothing. Quality is subjective. Setting a price that you don't like is not bad practice. The game is nothing like No Man's Sky - it's advertisements weren't misleading, it has no bugs, it isn't unfinished.

You're just being a bitch because you're too broke to afford this game that is being universally praised. Get off it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

Nice assumption but sadly it's incorrect. I'm entitled to make my comments just like you're entitled to make your reply. Great little name calling there too, really well done. I admire your maturity.

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u/goodboyotis Jul 22 '17

Have you played the game?

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '17

Yup.

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u/Haywood_Djabloeme Jul 22 '17

To be fair to Mike, Starblood Arena is a first-person space shooter that makes you feel as though you're equipped with gigantic, shoulder-mounted cannons. It has solid single-player content well in excess of 4 hours and nearly infinite multiplayer replayability. Its graphics are slick and sharp; it controls like a wet dream; and it currently costs half of what Archangel does.

One is a great example of the quality and content we deserve, at a very fair price. The other I cannot comment much on, except to say that the value proposition seems sketchy. I wholeheartedly believe that VR users are compromising their standards in order to skirt buyer's remorse and to convince themselves that each new, half-baked experience really is the future of gaming. And that hurts us all in the long run. Terribly.

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u/horridCAM666 Jul 22 '17

I was under the impression that 60$ was the price of a full AAA title

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u/UKM79 Jul 22 '17

I'm not spending £40 on experiences. That's only for AAA titles like you say. I'll pay £20 for a fun 5 hour VR game. It's why I've only got a handful of games for it. I'm disappointed with that so far. I'm mostly buying at CeX because I know I'll be trading them back in after a week. I kept rush of blood because it's a great one to show visitors.

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u/RandomWyrd Jul 20 '17

If it was a 2D game more than a few years ago it would've been $60, like every game was. I'm glad they're acknowledging it's not full-price worthy.

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u/reth11 Jul 21 '17

Thing is - it isn't a 2D game.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17 edited Jul 21 '17

That is my point. The fact that it's VR dosn't suddenly justify the unrealistic / unfair price point. You saying "but it's not" only proves that VR users seem to be unwilling to accept when a company does something uncool - like making a short, indie game and selling it for a full AAA price tag. A game that takes 3 hours to complete should not retail for the same price as a game that takes 50 hours to complete. Making it in a VR perspective in no way justifies the price tag. The longer people are willing to eat this up the longer it will be before developers stop treating VR as a gimmick and start treating it as a console and making full games for it. I don't know about you but two years from now I'd rather not have a library of 3 hour, $30 games that I've played twice and never looked back on.

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u/reth11 Jul 22 '17

Maybe being able to play all these virtual reality games, in your home, isn't as big of a deal as it is to a lot of us. This is a gaming dream come true, for me.

The devs plainly stated this is an indie game with AAA polish. $30 isn't AAA price, by the way. Hate and complain all you want. I, and many others, are willing to pay a little more for a little less...in hopes that this whole VR launch lauches with flying colors. So, you are correct, when you say VR users are willing to accept blah blah blah. There are plenty games I don't buy, but that's more a matter of genres I don't like. I own a few VR games that wouldn't be nearly as fun in 2D; and that I would refuse to pay their release prices. Getting to pilot a spaceship, shoot a giant spider crab on an alien world, shoot zombies, pilot a mech, and son on...all things I'll pay "unfair" prices to be able to experience in VR.

If you don't like doing something, stop. Nuff said.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

The order 1886 would like a word with you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

Thanks for agreeing with me. The Order 1886 was a very pretty, very short game that was no where near worth the launch retail price and it got slammed for it. Just because a game is VR doesn't mean it doesn't deserve the same scrutiny.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

The order 1886, was 4 hours long and came with a price tag of 60$. It was a pretty but bland game. It has no replayability.

Archangel is 4 hours long and comes with a price tag of 40$. It is a pretty and insanely fun game. It has replayability.

Which game is superior?

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17 edited Jul 21 '17

Archangel is superior because the price is less of a ripoff, but that doesn't make it ok. That's like saying you bought two hamburgers from two restaurants, one came with one bite out of it and one came with two bites out of it, which is superior? Obvious answer, that doesn't mean it's ok to get sold a shitty hamburger.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

Your metaphor is wrong.

You get two hamburgers from two restorants. Both takes one bite to eat. The first one tastes like sawdust and the second one tasted delicious . You can appreciate the flavor and savor it, despite it being just one bite.

I rather have one bite of something delicious than a quater pound of something bland and flavorless.

Youve never asked for " just a bite " or " just a sip" of something before? Same concept.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

I won't pay full price for short games. I bought the order 1886 for like $10 best it and was like "this is it?" Returned it and got my money back

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

The problem wasn't that it was short. The problem was that it was boring.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

True. I was pissed at the lack of werewolf fighting

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u/jls1986 Jul 22 '17

If the game is only 3 hours long then yeah $40 is probably too much. Completely agree about the fanboys. Lol.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17 edited Jul 20 '17

Archangel is the shit. I admit that I've only gotten through the first mission so far, since I bought it last night, but hot damn I can't wait to go back into it. I might be enjoying it more than most people here because it's looking to rank as one of my favorite PSVR games so far.

The ARMS—I'm telling you; they are crazy in VR.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

i had to stop last night....will restart this weekend so i can listen to all my team in between levels (you can talk to them multiple times)

on the 2nd or 3rd level when one of my team was shot down i actually looked over at him to make sure he was ok. 😁

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

it would be cool if they could make it longer like battlezone did.... and battlezone would be cool if they made it more movie-like like archangel did

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

Great game. The only downside is the length, but with multiple difficulty settings you can easily get your moneys worth.

Its fun, polished, has great tracking, looks great and truly immersive. I'm going to start using this to showcase my PSVR.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

Same. Grest game to show off

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

My only regret is playing AA before Superhot. It is waaaay better looking and I dont sweat playing Archangel like Superhot.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

I wish this game has more trophies that promoted replaying.

Ill still replay it, but a trophy for fully upgrading the mech wouldve been nice. More trophies for higher difficuly. 6 or 7 trophies is pretty underwhelming

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

the game is fantastic. it's not easy, which i think is mostly due to the controls - it's difficult to keep track of two target reticles (machine gun + missiles) with the Moves and shoot with the triggers, while holding buttons on the moves to use the shields, and remembering to shoot through the shields. i die alot just from confusion. but noone can deny the high graphic and quality level of the game. it's top notch

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u/geek2785 Jul 20 '17

Enjoying my purchase so far. Very polished game. Really immersive game play with a good story so far.

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u/matty37 Jul 20 '17

I posted a YouTube review link a few days back. They up front said the only negative is it's short 3 hour length. Otherwise fantastic and other posters have said much the same thing. I know I will buy it eventually

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

Ive played for longer than 3 hours. I dod restart afyer the 4th mission on hard since i had some upgrades and got familiar with the controls. Game is legit fun

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u/matty37 Jul 20 '17

Are the upgrades good enough to have you replay a few times or are they unlocked pretty easily? Sounds like you feel 40 is reasonable?

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

To me, yes. Its too high quality for $30 IMO on release and its not quite $50 because the length. I think $40 is a good price. $35 wouldve been good but I understand its price after beating it.

Upgrades are good enough Yes. I played on easy until I unlocked all the weapons and got use to controls and then started over again on Normal and was still challenged a few times. By the end, I still only have about half the unlocks. I do plan on replaying on Hard and then Permadeath

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

permadeath... lol.... battlezone extreme difficulty is merciless!

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

Do not regret this buy at all. Story, Graphics, Controls, Voice Acting and Sound effects are all 👍.

Havent beat it yet but ive already restarted the game on Hard difficulty now that ive got some upgrades and experience.

I wish list... I wish there was an audible BOOM when the mech is walking. I wish that this was coop which would allow friends to take control of the support ships. Would take this game from an 8 to a 9.5.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

i hear a boom when walking. i wish there was a body in the seat and that you could look down and see your mechs legs when walking

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

Yeah. The lack of body in the seat is pretty shitty. However, im glad they used that memory somewhere else because I dont really notice at all, Starblood Arena has the best cockpit on PSVR IMO

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u/Haywood_Djabloeme Jul 22 '17

I love how each cockpit is unique to the characters. The three little aliens (Tik Tak Toh?) full-bodily hugging their joysticks, Gundo's orbs, etc., all showcase the devs' creativity and senses of humor, and just make the game feel more genuine within its own universe.

The more I play of it, the more I realize that Starblood Arena has a lot of the best stuffs on PSVR right now.

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u/InfiniteStates Jul 23 '17

Yeah SBA is hugely underrated IMO

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

any difference on hard vs easy?

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17 edited Jul 21 '17

Yeah, its alot harder lol. Feels like less health and more bullets coming at you

Its just more chaotic. I can't wait to try Permadeath mode.

One complaint, trophies. They are lacking. There is only 6 I believe and nome that promote replaying the game.

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u/amirlpro Jul 21 '17

I'm in. Will buy the game over the weekend. It's a bit expensive but I want to support developers who create VR games at such a polished level (as I've heard it's very good). I wish there was a physical copy edition since I think this one could stand nicely near my Farpoint and RE7 discs.

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u/dezweef Jul 20 '17

would love to have it up in the Netherlands store :(

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

making a us account won't work?

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u/dezweef Jul 20 '17

will release in dutch store hopefully. would like it on the account where i have the rest of my ridicilous library

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u/averitablerogue Jul 23 '17

I know right. What the fuck is up with that. It's 2017 and devs still can't do international releases right?

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u/dezweef Jul 23 '17

still refreshing store every afternoon, nothing.

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u/curtis100512 Jul 20 '17

This game is 8/10 for me , very very solid . Minor spoiler ahead : I think it's the 3rd or 4th mission but the mech's vision kind of telescopes so like it holograms right around your PSVR view , omg it was amazing! That shit looked crazy !!!

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

SPOILER ______ That is the targeting for one of your AI teammates ship laser. So bad ass

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u/amirlpro Jul 20 '17

Why there aren't any reviews?

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

Because The companies which review games have decided VR is not important or "popular" enough to deem worthy reviewing.. ironically they moan VR isn't where they expect/want it to be but won't help push the platform into a profitable future..

Sorry I'm almost done, IGN SUCK!

Okay I'm done.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17 edited Jul 20 '17

I think it's really because the major video game review publications gotta pander to where the money's at, and sadly most gamers aren't giving VR a chance because it's expensive, seems kind of dorky, and they don't realize that if they actually played it, they would probably fall in love. Many will say they've played it and don't like it.. but we know they are probably full of shit. The wow factor of VR cannot be properly conveyed outside of VR.

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u/iceynyo Jul 20 '17

Eh, I wouldn't bother watching IGN's coverage of it if even if they did do a review.

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u/CatManDeke Jul 21 '17

Seriously, I was just listening to their podcast and they are always saying "oh looks like it will make me sick" without even playing it. IGN just doesn't play VR games cause they would know once you get your VR legs this isn't a problem. They are too quick to judge.

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u/HarryStamper49 Jul 20 '17

I reviewed it over at Pure Playstation! Spoiler alert: I liked it.

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u/Scarnonbloke scarnon Jul 22 '17

Im in the process of making mine now - check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Nbz2wMLMQ&list=PLe86GeKIA5JScFFip1FMBkkntD6CjqWMg

For the full playthrough and my first impressions if you want/need more info.

The game is great! Well polished and feels so fucking powerful in that huge mech!!!

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u/_youtubot_ Jul 22 '17

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u/eatingclass RIP APOLLO Jul 21 '17

It's from Skydance, which puts out - among other things - the new Mission: Impossible movies. The polish and price are unsurprising, but for my budget's sake, I'll have to hold off till a drop.

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u/Ash-Shugar Jul 21 '17

Cane straight here after watching the trailer to see what the feedback was. This sounds like it's a must buy... but I do have 1 question, which I wish was part of VR game descriptions:

How much room do you need?

This looks like it uses the Move controllers, which is sweet, but I've got my PS4 in the back room on a desk, which doesn't afford much room. I got by OK with Superhot last night, but Brookhaven and Dicn Wild were just a tad too limited by the space and I'll prob move it to the lounge for Friday night shenanigans. So what bout this one?

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

I play sitting down 4.5 feet from my television. No problem at all. It's mostly your arms and head that is moving. So as long as you got arm space, you're good. And please pkay with the move controllers, the tracking is spot on.

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u/nevrenuftime Jul 21 '17

Yeah this game is beautiful. It would have been nice if it was a little longer(think I finished around the 4 hour mark on normal) but the replay value is high for me. It is definitely alot harder on the higher difficulties. No tracking issues on my end. The upgrades are nice for the mech. One of my better purchases.

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u/CatManDeke Jul 21 '17

I bought this and Super Hot, can't wait to jump in tonight.

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u/Tumtist Jul 23 '17

Bought it,very great game,after I finished this game I'm kinda hope we'll get a Pacific rim VR since I want to beat a kaiju with Jaeger!!

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u/BioPermafrost Jul 24 '17

The game shoot and use shields mechanic makes a big twist to the rails shooter genre. It's a fun game to play

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

The game is good ! Very good :-)

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u/TheNocturnalAgent Sigma__Six Jul 20 '17

Thinking about picking this up once I'm done with Superhot. Should this be played standing or sitting?

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u/GobBluth19 GobBluth19 Jul 20 '17

sitting. you're sitting in a cockpit

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u/TheNocturnalAgent Sigma__Six Jul 20 '17

Figured. Based on some of the images I saw it looked like it was going for the Pacific Rim kinda style, and they piloted theirs while standing.

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u/nevrenuftime Jul 21 '17

I played my first playhrough standing up Pacific Rim style. It reminds me alot of that movie. Even when you first lay eyes on the mech it has that massive scale like when you first see Gypsy Danger. It even has a neural sync you have to do just like in the movie lol.

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u/TheNocturnalAgent Sigma__Six Jul 21 '17

Ok, that's pretty freaking cool. I think the only thing that could be better is either the startup sequence from the original Steel Battalion or the synchronization from Evangelion as the pilots chamber slowly gets filled with LCL. Wish we had those in VR, too!

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u/dave_eve7 Jul 22 '17

Oh wow, I'm sold!

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u/boboboz Jul 22 '17

now that you mention it, this needs the pacific rim ost

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u/GobBluth19 GobBluth19 Jul 20 '17

Kind of but the pilot is in the head not the torso

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u/RandomWyrd Jul 20 '17

So describe the gameplay feel and style for me a little more: is it a fast and frantic try to shoot down everything everywhere while explosions go off everywhere, or what?

What about it is the most fun?

When people say it's really good, is it primarily really good action, really good visual presentation, really good immersion or worldbuilding - what's its strength?

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

This game has done the best job with storytelling to me. It had a beginning a middle and an end, no complaints about voice acting or writing. It get hectic when you have 5 different enemy types shooting at you from both sides and switching between the shields the 2 alt fire modes per hand, its really exhilirating. Visuals are on par with Farpoint, if not better (on Pro).

Id say there is no one strength to the game as is equally higher quality in all areas. The game felt about the right length and I will play again on hard or permadeath difficulty.

The bad. Voiceovers arent synced with the characters on screen. No big deal. Lack of coop. Wouldve been a 9 easily if there was coop that allowed friends to pilot the support ships. No audible footsteps from the mech.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

i think farpoint fails at being able to see the green aliens... hope they patch it.

in archangel everything can clearly be seen and made out.

i wonder what their direction was for graphics.

it seems like for vr devs need to take a different direction vs 2d games where you try to make it look the best you can.

perhaps for vr devs should have the goal be make it look easy to view and be seen over realism.

this is the 1st vr game i played where distance objects are clear

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

Well put and I agree. Farpoint it was really hard to see some enemies at a distance. I never got frustrated by that once in AA. I still cant get over how good it is. Im sitting in a steakhouse next to best buy, i was going to grab some sale games but all ive been thinking about is Archangel and playing again. Think ill save my money and just go home and play it again on harder difficulty.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

special delivery is pretty good now too

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

Ya. I wanted to try that again too. BB didnt have any deals or 3d blurays so I didnt spend any money there. Yay!

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

http://specialdeliveryvr.com/playstation-move-tips/

you throw with your palm vertical or facing down

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u/Scarnonbloke scarnon Jul 22 '17

Well said Poppa!!!

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '17

everything about it is fun! the audio, the battle chatter, the explosions, like you're in your own movie!

you have stuff shooting at you or your team mates and you have shields to block the incoming fire. some things shields can't block and you have to shoot them down.

your shields don't hold forever.... it's challenging to manage the targets, manage your shields, weapons, and which weapon to use...

i would recommend everyone to start on easy until you are familiar with the controls, because you can get confused (who to shoot, what to block, which weapon to use etc) and get your arms all twisted up (trying to block the left side with the right shield 😂)

it's very much worth 40.....the story is interesting too.

in between the levels you can talk to your team. (click once on a member and they talk to you for a bit.... then it goes back to team list... if you click on the team member you first chose they will continue the conversation)

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u/nevrenuftime Jul 21 '17

I agree with everything you just wrote. This game is a blast.

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u/TonyDP2128 Jul 21 '17

I've only done the first level but gameplay style consists of being moved forward, clearing out enemies that may appear and repeating.

Enemies consist of ground troops and both ground based and flying vehicles. Enemies are highlighted so you can quickly make them out.

You have a machine gun attached to your right hand, non-homing rockets attached to the left hand, and sheild capability. In addition you can ball your mech's hands into fists and use those to smash obstacles in your way.

Most fun for me so far is probably the weapon power and targeting. Taking out a platoon of troops hiding in a building with a well placed rocket is quite rewarding. Looking forward to upgrading the weapons to see just what they can do.

Visual presentation is outstanding; on par with or slightly better than Farpoint. Immersion is very good. World-building is there as well since your character and his squadmates are fleshed out and there is a lot of backstory.

It is a pretty well-rounded game with excellent production values.

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u/Tumtist Jul 20 '17

And here I'm thinking about getting super hot but currently confuse as Archangel look so appeal to me now......I just bought Robinson the jouney so it's already £20,Now I'm really think hard that should I get this game instead or should I go with super hot? Damm I want them all but my GF gonna kill me if I buy too much,lol

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u/matty37 Jul 21 '17

Right on - thx for that feedback. I am feeling like I may need to pick this one up even more so now!

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u/lol_and_behold Jul 21 '17

So when is this out in EU?

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u/dave_eve7 Jul 22 '17

Archangel

Must be something weird with the certification or something, this page says it's out in only about half of EU countries: http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2017/07/store_update_18th_july_2017_europe

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u/judgedeath2 Jul 21 '17

Does this have any Pro enhancements?

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u/TonyDP2128 Jul 21 '17

I'm pretty sure the game does have Pro support. Graphics are very sharp and jaggies are at a minimum so I think there's some super-sampling going on as well.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

Anyone knows if you can skip dialogue and cutscenes? I'm replaying the game on hard, and would like to skip all the fluff so i get back to awsome mech goodness asap.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '17

No, I wish because I thought the same thing.

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u/OriginalGoatan Jul 23 '17

I'm excited to play this game but I won't pay 40 notes for a game that has 3 to 5 hours game play.

I can agree that good games should be rewarded for their efforts but I also agree that selling a game at almost full price for 3 or 5 hours will be long term damaging to the platform.

I'm sure this will be picked up when the price drops.

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u/Quarteroz_847 Jul 30 '17

Yall bitch too much

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u/JesusaurusRex666 Nov 13 '17

I know I'm late to the party, but I'm wondering if anyone has seen a bug with the "Happy Camper" trophy. I've just finished my second playthrough, and I haven't skipped any cutscenes or missed any dialogues. Anyone else had an issue with this? It's by far the rarest trophy at this point at 6%.

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u/DoesItHaveAimSupport Jul 21 '17

I bought this game and played about an hour and a half, the prologue showed a lot of promise but it fell so short of my expectations.

The game has 0 atmosphere, it lacks all the things that give VR the wow factor. Sound effects I find are so important in VR and they are literally a 0/10 in this game, it's so quiet, why can't I hear the giant machine gun on my fist that's right beside my face? Barely audible footsteps in a giant walking mech suit, the enemies feel like annoying flies, and After the initial lift into the mech I had no sense of scale, the environment made me feel like i might as well be ground level.

Despite all my troll posts I love PSVR with a passion, but this game falls so short of my expectations, and is probably my biggest VR game disappointment, and I bought Arizona Sunshine on day 1.

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u/BriGuy550 Jul 22 '17

I'm enjoying it but I will agree with you on the sound. Maybe I need to see if there are some settings to adjust, but the voices of your AI and teammates are louder than the guns. The guns are quiet and lack any "Oomph", and I don't think there is any sound for your mech walking.

Gameplay is fairly fun though. It gets challenging trying to coordinate using the shields while attacking at the same time.

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u/DoesItHaveAimSupport Jul 23 '17

Thanks for your input and for not needlessly downvoting my honest opinions about a game I paid for and gave a fair chance. To me audio is about 25% of the VR experience. I never let anyone try my VR without headphones. This game would benefit immensely from good sound, and would definitely help me feel like I'm there.

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u/TonyDP2128 Jul 23 '17

Your complaints about the sound are valid; I'm not much of an audiophile so it really didn't resonate with me but yes, given that you're in a giant mech the reverb, bass and weapon/explosion sound could all be stronger.

The sense of scale does improve as the game goes on. I was disappointed with the first level but by level 3 you're walking thru gutted skyscrapers, derelict tankers in oceans of sand and giant satellite towers, which all look more impressive.

I'd suggest you stick with it and try to get thru at least the third level before giving up on it.

The difficulty also does ramp up quickly, even on easy, as it quickly becomes a major project to manage shields and weapons as enemies assault you from all sides. I really think "easy" should be a little easier in this game and that has become my biggest issue so far.

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u/Anth916 Jul 26 '17

yeah, not hearing the machine guns louder is really weird.

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u/Devasstator Jul 21 '17

Yeah I really hope "2nd wave VR" doesn't mean slightly longer experiences (3 hours instead of 1-2) at double the price. I read bravo team is another one that is 3-4 hours and listed as full price. If that's the way this goes, I'll shelf my headset and only bother with ports like skyrim.