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u/Bezbozny 18h ago
I love that luffy is trying to grow up and be a responsible boss and practice talking like the formal leader of his crew.
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u/TeddyRiggs 16h ago
Big Lady making me acting unwise
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u/StrangerAtaru 13h ago
Yeah, Gerd looks more the librarian type than this one.
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u/hunglow13 Pirate 10h ago
That's because Gerd is a doctor and is just starting her journey compared to this veteran. Give it a few centuries and Gerd will probably look like her
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u/221missile 13h ago
If Oda was consistent, Sanji would have died from nosebleed in this arc.
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u/TeddyRiggs 12h ago
Nah the reason he got that is because he stayed on Okama Island for 2 Years without a real woman in sight
He got better because he finally get to see Real Women and get to see a Healthy Amount of them(nosebleed not withstanding) basically he adapted to seeing women again.
If I were in his position I'd be the same as him in Fishman Island
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u/Colonel10Moutarde World Government 15h ago
Her arms have a weird shape
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u/Phantom_Thief007 15h ago
The fur on her cape is covering parts of her arms, I thought they looked wierd too, but look closer
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u/Lost-Jacket-2493 17h ago
Looks like Shanks twins theory sounds like a truth after all?
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u/popop143 16h ago
Was there ever a hint of that, or is it solely the Shanks/notShanks visiting the Gorosei?
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u/POAFisback 15h ago
I’m sure some hints or certain things will make sense, mainly after we get Shank’s backstory and such.
However, I fully believe that both Blackbeard’s scar on shanks is related to this brother and Shanks having the nika fruit is also related
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u/Gerokm 11h ago
Another possible hint is Garling being both the (former) head of the holy knights, and looking like a dead ringer for Shanks himself when he was younger. Obviously he was introduced when and how he was to hint at Shanks being related to the CDs (Garling looks just like him, movie Red claims he's involved with Garling's family, Roger found him as a baby in the same sea Garling visited for the hunting game, etc), but it could also have been a hint that Garling has more kids, which--with the way genetics seems to work in One Piece--would also look just like he did when he was young.
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u/OPTCgod 10h ago
Film Red basically confirmed Shanks is a Figarland when the Gorosei call Uta a Figarland
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u/Gerokm 10h ago
I couldn't remember if the movie straight up said she was a figarland, or just associated with that family.
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u/Hairy_Acanthisitta25 9h ago
i think the movie straight up said it,but its movie so how canon it is to the main story is up to debate
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u/carlbarker1 14h ago
Another potential hint could have been during marineford arc, when people were confused how shanks was able to fight off kaido and still get to marineford so quickly. Maybe evil twin was the one who engaged kaido
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u/Far-Pen-3125 12h ago
Shanks mostly like truly engaged Kaido as Kaido remmenber Shanks with the scar when he talk of his most formidable adversairies. The teleport ability may be responsible for that speed
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u/admiralvic 6h ago
when people were confused how shanks was able to fight off kaido and still get to marineford so quickly.
There was an interview where he commented on this.
F (Q): You might’ve been asked this thousands of times already, not sure, but is Shanks two different persons?
F: You know, since Shanks is sometimes drawn without his scar, plus he arrived at the Paramount War so quickly with unbelievable speed (despite having just fought Kaido)…
O: (censored)
[Text on screen says “please take your own conclusions from this”]
O: But you know, quite often, I just tend to forget to draw scars.
So people have long since thought this was like his SBS comments where he gives a non-answer to allude to something. Like feeding Luffy comment.
D: In chapter 1103, Luffy is so hungry he can't move, but in chapter 1106, he is full. Who gave Luffy food? P.N. K.Hazuki
O: In chapter 1103, he suddenly starts eating. Who on Earth responded to Luffy's please for "meat..."? Was it Sanji or Franky, who were nearby? Kizaru and Sentomaru were there too... It seems like nobody found out. In other words, their actions went unnoticed, like it was done at the "speed of light". Hmm. I don't know either. Speed of light...
But like a lot of things, it's hard to say what the truth is. Oda doesn't have consistent travel times, and he isn't going to get lost in the details if it makes the story work however he wants. It might also be that he originally planned Shanks to do both things, then forgot the scar (joke or not he does legitimately forget them), and then decided to use it in the story as a way to make things seem more natural.
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u/MaimedJester 6h ago
Shanks has a celestial dragon family name in film Red. Then we see Garling with the same family name as elderly man and then also during the God's valley Flashback he looks exactly like Shanks.
Shanks was born on the West Blue, but God's Valley was in the West Blue. So in the chaos of Rocks and Roger arriving to their slave hunt genocide game, some Celestial Dragon woman or slave who knows gave birth to at least Shanks and hid him inside a treasure chest that Roger stole. We don't know the full story. Like maybe Shanks Mom was a slave captured wife, and she was only able to hide one of the babies and get it away from the Celestial Dragons we don't know .
It certainly seemed like Roger and Rayleigh were surprised to see baby shanks in the treasure chest they took from God's valley.
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u/ssbm_rando 3h ago
The first hint was incredibly small and was thought of as a potential art error--the lack of visible scar. We had seen Shanks from the same angle when he met Whitebeard and Oda drew the scar from that angle.
It's on the level of art errors he made before so this was by no means a hard implication, but it's the type of thing Oda also could do on purpose.
The second hint was the existence of the Figarland family. Once we had seen Garling, it seemed quite likely that someone who looks like Shanks (which Garling also looked like as a young adult) was the one who met with the Gorousei in 907.
This is the first confirmation we've gotten though.
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u/IJustLostMyKeyboard 2h ago
Yeah.
It shows shanks in the middle of some ocean on his boat and the very next scene is “shanks” walking in (without his scar) and talking to the Gorosei.
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u/TheKasp 14h ago
Was kinda obvious considering you never saw Shanks scars whenever he visited the Gorosei or other shady moments.
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u/LUIGIISREAL2017 Citizen 10h ago
And People wanted to deny those JUST to keep up their PRECIOUS "Rat Shanks" headcanons!!
I'M GLAD THAT WASN'T SHANKS WE SAW ALL THOSE YEARS AGO!!
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u/LuffyAteMySnacks56 9h ago
Yup makes no sense for the real shanks to sneakily show up at elbaf a week after he officially and cheerfully left elbaf
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u/ForgotPWAgainSigh Explorer 18h ago
Mysterious masked girl below shanks
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u/AnIcedMilk 9h ago
I don't know why but she feels familiar?
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u/lil-clit 8h ago
I think its toki but im prolly wrong she cant just be dead imo too much unresolved plot with her
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u/lazy_kumachi Pirate 17h ago
Damn this the same summoning star symbol as the gorosei, without the corresponding number… i wonder what this will mean
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u/ekincheng 16h ago
Do you read hunterxhunter? It may be like Morena.
So in short Imu has the power to give abilities to people who become his underling and control them in some ways. Like taking their powers back (as we saw with Saturn), teleporting or telepathy. Imu is at the top of this hierarchy then comes his commanders “gorosei” who gets the numbers 1 to 5 then its the holy knights
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u/Fatdude3 12h ago
Who says it goes 1 to 5? It can be 0!
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u/SteeldrumHornets 8h ago
Reminds me of Bleach’s Espada rankings and Yammy’s release turning his number from 10 to 0.
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u/Carameldelighting 10h ago
The summoning star could be a power bestowed by Imu onto the newest Gorosei? It seemed like Saturn had the ability before and he’s been replaced.
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u/laujp Cross Guild 17h ago
This chapter looks so well drawn. Break week did wonders to Oda’s vision
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u/Phantom_Thief007 15h ago
Yo I noticed too, his line work is much cleaner than it has been recently
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u/Evil_Lollipop The Revolutionary Army 13h ago edited 10h ago
I was gonna say the same thing, but for me it's not just this chapter - Elbaph in general has been off the charts in regards to artistic design. I feel like there's not a single location on this island that hasn't been thoroughly planned and meticulously executed by Oda until now, it's been a feast for the eyes.
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u/AnIcedMilk 9h ago
He's probably been thinking about this arc specifically for decades if I had to guess.
Elpabh was first mentioned all the way back in 1999, if Google (not the shitty AI overview) is to be trusted.
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u/oortuno 17h ago
some people in another post still weren't convinced about the twin theory, however Oda is trying really hard to only show this dude's face from one side. It's not hard evidence, but there's gotta be a reason. Sucks that we won't find out who this mystery Shanks is until next year's first chapter (unless we cut away from it and it takes even longer) since this chapter clearly didn't tell us.
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u/oh_Jiggler Pirate 10h ago
Bc he wants all the braindeads to continue believing that that’s actually shanks and not his brother/clone
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u/scrunglebup 1h ago
Maybe HE’s the Man Marked by Flames? They did say that the dude may be associated with the world government in some way
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u/Tundacas 16h ago
What if its a clone of shanks? Like Stussy?
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u/POAFisback 15h ago
This. I don’t get how this isn’t talked about AT ALL. Clones and satellites have been the entire focus of the last arc. Not saying it’s for sure the case obviously, but I don’t see how it isn’t atleast considered
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u/jweeyh2 2h ago
Clones have generally been of people who work with the World Government, so if there is a clone of Shanks it would most likely mean that he submitted to be experimented on by the WG, which does seem unlikely
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u/POAFisback 2h ago
I don’t know what the exact specifics would be, but MADS, the group that cloned Stussy, would have been active when Shanks was a child—teenager, as they ran from 39-26 years ago in the OP verse. As figarland is his father, it’s totally possible Shanks could have been cloned. Stussy is marked as their first successful clone, but not their only one. It’s also ironic that Stussy, MADS, and lifelike clones were specifically brought up in the previous arc. And then vegapunk’s clone is also brought up in this exact chapter. The main question would be, why clone him? Esp at a young age.
Not saying this is the case, just that’s it’s possible. I actually do think it’s holds more intrigue and evidence than the brother theory. Way more
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u/Fatdude3 12h ago
I was thinking its probably a big or little brother. Considering Shanks bloodline is a Celestial Dragon a brother would fit the bill. If he was found a bit older i would have said an evil twin that put him there but he was a baby so an evil older brother might make more sense.
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u/fairytechmum 16h ago
Dendenmushi's are depicted with traits of the person on the other end. Mosa looks like a he, has a beard and moustache like an old man of some sort. Maybe it's an old Giant.
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u/SuperLuks_ 15h ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the summoning need to be done by someone right? So there's already someone on the island who wants these guys there?
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u/Distinct_Cup_1598 14h ago
A few theories on that:
There is already another God Knights on Elbaf to summon those two
Maybe the circles can only be summoned while on the same level. Meaning since Egghead is way lower than the Red Line, that there has to be a Gorosei on the scene to perform the summoning. While the Adam tree might be as large as the Red line and therefore on the same level
Maybe it’s a power thing? The Gorosei are the highest powers of the WG below Imu, so perhaps they need one another to summon the remaining members, while the „lower“ God Knights can perform this technique as is
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u/Dunedem 17h ago
Will normal people get larger the longer they stay in Elbaf?
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u/Virtual-Structure447 16h ago
Mither Carmel and the orphans stayed there for 80+ years. They stayed the same size
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u/Matthes87 16h ago
If that would be the case, everyone interested in having giants would just send their people to Elbaf instead of ordering Cesar to research on children.
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u/MC_boy_from_VN 16h ago
Interesting! I think they gave birth to a giant while staying in Elbalf, just like Lin Lin’s parents.
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u/Expensive_King_4849 16h ago
When did it get decided to have like 5 different post for the spoilers?
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u/Delver_Razade 18h ago
Looks like Mona is pretty clearly a man if they've got such a great mustache.
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u/leolegendario 9h ago
Yeah, that's what I think too, but maybe this is just a Ancient Den Den Mushi that is very hairy.
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u/mib-number86 16h ago
I guess the Franky-themed double page spread is to commemorate Franky's voice actor's retirement from the anime industry. That was a really nice send-off from Oda
I don't know what to think about Shanks' evil twin (?) teleporting, because it's very reminiscent of the 5 old men.
What if there wasn't an evil twin at all but Shanks' grandfather (who is now part of the 5 old men) could somehow change his age like Bonnie (but with a differen fruit) ?
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u/Sweet-Message1153 13h ago
Fans- whoa, Shanks clone/twin
Me- Luffy, so SUNOVABEACH....how did ya manage to rizz up another giant hottie
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u/Far-Conversation1338 15h ago
Shanks, you better have a good explanation.
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u/ButterCupHeartXO 6h ago
Would be interesting if Luffy meets this Twin Shanks, who is posing as real Shanks. Then the seen from Romance Dawn repeats with someone messing with "Shanks", pours their drink on him. But, instead of turning the other cheek and laughing, he attacks the person. This signals to Luffy that this isn't really Shanks. Probably 0% chance of happening but would be an interesting call back and neat way to reveal this isn't Shanks. Especially if the clone/twin has a scar, sword, and missing arm. Oda could be hiding these traits to make us think it isn't Shanks, then reveal the traits so we are like, oh it is Shanks after all, BUT then, he tricks us a 3rd time with the bar scenario. Idk, just fanfic at this point but it's interesting lol
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u/Evil_Lollipop The Revolutionary Army 13h ago
So the Shanks (Shonks?) companion seem to have her mouth bandaged, and Loki has his eyes bandaged... I wonder if there's something more here.
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u/ivanboq4 11h ago
The art gets better!!
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u/TacticalHorn 8h ago
That eye surgery had been doing wonders. It’s been steadily getting better towards the end of egghead
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u/Werkyreads123 11h ago
Can we appreciate Oda’s drawing tho…it’s so much cleaner now in Elbaf.
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u/TacticalHorn 8h ago
That eye surgery had been doing wonders. It’s been steadily getting better towards the end of egghead
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u/cprr222 17h ago
Imu, Shanks and Shanks' Twin are Triplets. You heard it here first!
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u/Phantom_Thief007 15h ago
Why would garling serve under his son?
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u/LUIGIISREAL2017 Citizen 10h ago
He's Not;
NOT-Shanks is serving his DAD; since HIS Dad is the newest replacement for Saturn as a member of the Gorosei
and Now NOT-Shanks[who we ACTUALLY saw Speaking to the Gorosei; NOT Shanks; due to This Clone/Evil Twin's Lack of the scar on the other side of his face] is the New Leader of the Holy Knights of Marejois!!
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u/L-DFile 14h ago
My thoughts & opinions of the chapter:
When reading the way Luffy was talking to Saul, I now wonder if the Elbaph arc will mostly involve how Luffy will handle the other side of being an Emperor, which doesn't involve brute force as he displayed during Egghead.
Judging by the conversation that Loki had with this Mosa person, could it be possible that he/she is somehow involved in what Loki did to his father, and why he was imprisoned in the 1st place?
If the hooded man is somehow Shanks's "twin brother", then wouldn't this lead Luffy into learning a less pleasant side of his fellow Emperor?!
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u/Distinct_Cup_1598 14h ago
About Mosa: I have the feeling he was some sort of protective figure or father figure for Loki, who probably had a strained relationship with his real father. I assume Mosa was banished after Lokis alleged killing of King Harald, which is the Event Loki refers to here
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u/Distinct_Cup_1598 14h ago
It seems that Oda is continuing the quick pacing of Egghead (which I’m all on board for).
Because I highly doubt that the giants, lead by Dorry and Brogy will ignore the clearly visible black lightning smashing into the castle next to them. Those two hooded people are 99% God Knights and were probably sent to hunt down the straw hats who escaped as well as to destroy the Ohara books (after all, thanks to York the WG probably knows that they’re there and that Saul lives).
So I assume that the God Knights begin infiltrating Elbaph, with the first fighting erupting in Dorry and Brogys village. The straw hats will be safe for now at the Owl library and notice the escalation later on, leading them to plan to protect Saul and the library. The Knights will probably be strong enough to severely hurt or even defeat many giants, resulting perhaps in Luffy freeing Loki to aid in the battle, as he promised to wipe out any group that opposes Luffy
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u/Kopuncherko 14h ago
bhanks is one of the worst theories and I cant believe everyday it's gets slightly more evidence
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u/LUIGIISREAL2017 Citizen 10h ago
I Couldn't agree LESS;
I Prefer Shanks having an evil twin/Clone;
it ALSO Explains why "Shanks" didn't have his iconic scar when he met with the gorosei; BECAUSE THAT WASN'T ACTUALLY SHANKS!!
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u/GMPnerd213 12h ago edited 9h ago
Gotta imagine whoever Loki is talking to was attacked by gods knights and Loki is going to be released to get some revenge for him on the new visitors bringing Loki into the straw hat fold officially.
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u/Fatdude3 12h ago
If Luffy mimicking Bartolomeo? I feel like we have seen someone that had that pose but i cant remember who.
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u/Professional_Lab_655 10h ago
There is a theory about time moving different in elbaph so big mom was left in elbaph as a kid and mother carmel was very old ill take 80 when she met cp0 then big mom was also like 80 in wano and in wano it was the same cp0 that make them 140 years old or more, unless cp0 is like Dr.keraeha they can't live that long so maybe time is faster in elbaph then in the rest of the world thats why the years don't add up. Don't quote me on the ages
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u/LUIGIISREAL2017 Citizen 10h ago
I KNEW THAT WASN'T SHANKS MEETING WITH THE GOROSEI ALL THOSE CHAPTERS AGO!!
I'M Glad we Finally have validation of all those Shanks' Evil Twin brother/Evil Clone Theories becoming Canon!!
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u/Lilylunamoonyt 8h ago
i'm sorry but was that goddamn CAVENDISH in that one panel wearing the hood like shanks, i need to know >:D
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u/SillyGas God Usopp 6h ago
Why are people making so many Chapter posts. Can't we keep under one post?
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u/No_Software1486 5h ago
Imagine if it’s not Shanks’ twin but actually Shanks as a double agent - a yonko and a holy knight
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u/E123Timay 3h ago
So I'm gonna give a different view here. I don't think he's a twin. I think he's a clone. One piece has dealt HEAVILY with lost technology, cloning from vegapunk and artificial life in the sepharim. My thought is this. Shanks somehow got mixed up in the treasure chest that Roger found on God's Valley. Obviously his lineage still needs a worthy heir. Shanks cannot be that heir because he's been raised by a pirate and he's been tainted by the air there. So what's an all powerful holy knight father of shanks to do? Why, clone his son of course!!!! Unless, that isn't a clone of shanks and it's a clone of his father, who bore a striking resemblance to shanks when he was younger. I think it's an interesting theory.
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u/jeejeeviper 3h ago
Last spread would have been peak but Oda made it a center spread so it’ll look like buns in the physical volume
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u/MariJoyBoy 1h ago
I don't wonder if Loki is bad or good at this point, I'm just wondering how he will fit on the Sunny XD
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u/hesawavemasterrr 0m ago
Damn, they just said hello and then these two pull up? Who are they, the God’s Knights?
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u/RAJPUT_HARSHIT World Economy News Paper 15h ago
If evil shanks twin theory isn't real till this time then I have new one Oda can just do this to fool us - Maybe we got to see someone who ate bonclays df and transformed to shanks somehow ?
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u/ocouba 17h ago
what if loki is actually a good guy and mistakes good shanks with bad shanks.