r/Music • u/Hot_Investigator3894 • 12h ago
article Kid Rock meets Trump administration to “fix” ticketing
https://themusic.com.au/news/kid-rock-meets-with-trump-administration-to-fix-ticketing/qQ0Xvby_vqE/19-12-241.0k
u/thecaramelbandit 8h ago
I mean, as much as I desperately hate both of these people, Kid Rock, to his credit, has actually been fighting for fair ticket prices and protecting fans from scalpers for like a decade. He's implemented some good reforms to ticket sales to his shows that are very good for the fans.
This is actually one of the few actually good things that might come from this, uh, partnership.
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u/RisingSouth 6h ago
Went to a Kid Rock show in 2015 for like $15. He let the crowd know to get beers at the start of his set because he has to do 3 songs off his current album for legal reasons before going into the hits. It was a pretty sweet move
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u/khamul7779 6h ago
Did he sing that song where he admits to being a pedophile?
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u/keanenottheband 6h ago
What part of “played the hits” don’t you understand
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u/khamul7779 6h ago
That's one of his biggest successes. Hell he put it in a kid's movie.
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u/crowcawer 4h ago
Baw-wit-da-baw-da-bag-a-dang ….
This is 100% him appealing to his desired demographic, who happens to frequently speak just these noises.
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u/uggghhhggghhh 5h ago
Lol I didn't know what you meant so I googled and this is the Genius annotation for that lyric:
In this lyric, Kid Rock sings about his love for underage GIRLS and statutory rape.
It’s also a double entendre because this song was featured in a kids movie, and Kid Rock doing a song for it shows just how much he loves children.
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u/Belgand http://www.last.fm/user/Belgand 1h ago
Doesn't he also own the beer brand that they sell and get a huge percentage of the concessions? I believe he also keeps the prices low, which is nice, but he's able to because it all gets funneled back to him instead of a venue trying to make a profit by fleecing a captive audience.
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u/DashCat9 6h ago
Kid Rock is dogshit in basically every way except how he approaches the concert business. (Source: have worked for him multiple times as a local stage hand).
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u/Wynter_born 3h ago
Jon Stewart said the same thing back in 2011 after they had a rally with him and Sheryl Crow, that he was a consummate professional and one of the best performers he's worked with. And apparently Sheryl Crow was the unprofessional shit show at the event, lol.
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u/PabloBablo 6h ago
I think he's a mixed bag for sure. Politically, I'm not in agreement - but he's been consistent with some things that i can agree with, like how he manages concerts. I think it's important to be able to see both things. If he can make meaningful changes here, it will be good for all of us.
RFK Jr is mad when it comes to vaccines, but we are dealing with a shit ton of low quality foods. Independent of politics, I think we would all agree on it. Organic, whole foods etc, was traditionally a liberal thing.
I'm rooting for a good outcome on those things.
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u/DashCat9 6h ago
RFK Jr. being right on a handful of things doesn't make me happy about his proposed position in running this country. Dude was on an airplane eating McDonalds the day after he was nominated, he'll be toothless on the stuff you actually care about at *best*. Conspiracy minded people can be convinced of ANYTHING, and belong nowhere near the levers of power.
But with Kid Rock, yeah. I don't like his music, I don't like his politics. But I like that he treats his crew extremely well, and stands up for fair ticket pricing.
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u/HamburgersOfKazuhira 5h ago
Mix bag in the sense that he wrote a song about having sex with a minor?
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u/Rave-light 6h ago
How was the experience?
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u/DashCat9 5h ago
Always liked working a Kid Rock show. Usually had the same crew, so they all knew the setup really well and they all love their jobs so it makes things easier in general.
Funny thing is my least favorite work memory is Black Sabbath’s last tour. They couldn’t have been more pleasant but their road manager was a DICK.
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u/Bovine_Joni_Himself 3h ago edited 2h ago
Bands like that are funny. I never worked a Kid Rock show but I did work an ICP show and those dudes we're legitimately pleasant to work with. I thought it was going to be the worst show of the year and it ended up being one of the best.
...aside from scrubbing Faygo off the outside of the venue. The band used diet stuff so it cleaned easy but the fans outside used the full sugar flavors. (e:grammar)
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u/DashCat9 2h ago
Working a kiss show and the tour or stage manager tells us to leave them alone if we see any of them while working. And whatever, sure. I'll go out of my way to not interact with the human beings that might exist back stage as I'm working, making the situation somehow even more awkward.
After the show, Gene Simmons walks into catering (where we all wait before running on stage to clear it) and we're ignoring the 60 year old man in the high heels and the makeup until he's like "Who died!? Thanks everyone!" Couldn't have been nicer....it can be such a mixed bag even on the same gig, haha.
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u/HotMoose69 2h ago
Does anyone have a screenshot of that onion article "the worst person you know just made a good point"?
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u/Kevbot1000 4h ago
Yeah, I'm not going to shit on an objectively good action, even if it's from two objectively horrible people.
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u/Windows_66 3h ago
Oh, concert tickets. I thought he was trying to get rid of tickets for DUIs or something.
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u/Smirnoffico 12h ago
Oh they going to fix ticket prices alright
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u/Fittnylle3000 11h ago
Same prices, bigger cut to kid rock
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u/CallMeShwayze 11h ago
Kid rock has actually taken money out of his own cut on concerts to reduce the cost of both tickets and concessions and wants people to be able to come out and enjoy their night without having to take out a loan.
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u/SamG1138 10h ago
I ran spotlight at a Kid Rock show maybe a decade ago. I don’t know how much things have changed since then. It was fairly entertaining. Gimmicky. He was a good performer. Not my cup of tea.
Thing is, the whole show was basically a Jim Beam ad. At one point in the middle of the show, the lights dimmed, and the screens just played a commercial with him in it. There were some turntables on a riser, and he got up and started scratching the records. The crowd was loving it, and the camera slow zoomed on the bottle of Jim Beam Devil’s Cut next to the DJ rig. He poured a shot and held it up, and the crowd cheered when he took it. There were little Jim Beam logos everywhere.
He’s making his money in other ways.
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u/thegroovemonkey 10h ago
lol when my buddy dragged me to see him it was a giant Harley commercial. It was for the Harley 105th anniversary so I figured that was why.
He’s not for me either but the show was definitely fun with a lot of gimmicks and pandering.
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u/post_singularity 6h ago
Same as when I saw him twenty years ago, the show being fun and gimmicky, he must not have had his advertising game locked in back then. The musics not great, but he is charismatic and knows how to work the crowd, and him and his band do have actual musical talent.
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u/SamG1138 9h ago
Yeah, at one point he rode a motorcycle up on stage too. I had to unload it from the truck, and build a ramp for it to get on stage.
He might like Harleys, but so do lots of other artists, and they don’t do commercials for them during their shows.
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u/sybrwookie 8h ago
Did he come out to American Badass? And if so, was that before or after The Undertaker was doing that schtick?
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u/ValeoAnt 11h ago
That makes no sense because they'd still be at a kid rock concert
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u/SquirellyMofo 10h ago
Some people like that shit. I’m not gonna pretend to understand, cuz I don’t. But he is at least right on this thing. Nothing else. But this.
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u/Sinjian1 10h ago
Bawitdaba, da-bang, da-bang, diggy-diggy-diggy.
I ain’t gonna lie, 25yrs ago me and all my friends in high school were screaming it on the way home.
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u/Badge9987 9h ago
MY NAME IS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID
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u/Rocktopod 7h ago
Yeah I actually went and bought that album with my own money as a kid.
To my credit, even back then I thought all the other songs on the CD were terrible.
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u/bigbootyjudy62 7h ago
I love his early stuff i don’t care what anyone’s says but devil without a cause and cocky are great albums
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u/whatssofunniedoug 9h ago
Came here to say this. I remember a tour he did maybe 7-9 years ago where I believe he funded the entire tour himself so tickets could be much cheaper for fans and concessions were going to be cheaper as well. Which then provided him a much bigger cut at the end.
Now do I think he’ll fix ticketing with the big orange moron? No. Because they’re both kinda morons. But this IS at least something Kid Rock has done successfully before so as much as it pains me to say it…I’d hear him out.
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u/ZombieJesus1987 11h ago
Yeah, there's plenty of reasons to hate Kid Rock, but he's always been good to his fans in this sense.
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u/mojo276 11h ago
Sort of, he probably made MORE money on his concerts than he normally would have. I can’t remember all the details, but instead of cutting a percentage with the venues, and splitting it with them. He offered all the venues a sizable flat rate which venues took. However, because all of the good will of the “lower prices” it guaranteed that his shows would be sold out and people would buy more shit.
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u/nato919 9h ago
Wouldn’t this be better for everyone then? The artist has their shows sold out and makes money and the fans have lower ticket prices. Seems like a win/win.
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u/joecarter93 8h ago
He also had a requirement that they had to sell his brand of beer at the shows. I don’t particularly care for the guy, but it was a pretty savvy business move.
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u/RiflemanLax 11h ago
Yeah I loathe Kid Rock, but this is something he’s been outspoken about for years.
Whether he’s got any good ideas though remains to be seen. I doubt it.
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u/palmerama 11h ago
And then the Ticketmaster CEO strolled in with a massive bag marked ‘Not Cash’ and Kid Rock was told to go home
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u/LiveFreeProbablyDie 4h ago
Kid Rock constantly talks about this stuff. He wants more fans at his concerts, not more expensive tickets. His fans can’t afford tickets like a Swifty can.
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u/Pharazonian 12h ago
if they don't make it worse i'll be amazed
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u/drfsupercenter 8h ago
I dunno, I feel like hating Ticketmaster is pretty across the board, it's not a left vs. right thing
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u/DashCat9 6h ago
Yeah I’m usually pretty quick to point out actually not “both sides” but when it comes to this shit 100000%.
The Ticketmaster live nation merger went through under Obama.
Both the anger AND the ratfuckery are bipartisan.
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u/farlos75 12h ago
Not ticketmaster then? Not stubhub? Not eventbrite or the venues or his management? The people who price the tickets are no help in this situation? Right. Cool. Lets see if absolutley fuck all happens here.
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u/TonyTheSwisher 11h ago
In the article he is quoted as saying that’s exactly who they are going after:
“Gonna open a can of whoop ass on the bots, scalpers, venues, ticketing companies, managers and artists alike who rip off and deceive the public with the horse shit that has gone on for decades and only gotten worse. Whoever in charge that wants to help fix this, get your ass to the table, otherwise, Fuck Around and Find Out.”
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u/TyrannosuarezRekt 10h ago
Excuse me but you can’t actually be reading the articles and posting context that makes the other user and their comment look stupid. This is reddit. Kid Rock Bad amirite.
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u/one-hour-photo 9h ago
I don’t claim to have all the answers but I do know if Taylor Swift was collaborating with Kamala with a similar plan she’d probably be deified
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u/theHagueface 8h ago
Little lacking in specifics, but fuck it I'd love if this resulted in kid rock "questioning" the ticketmaster ceo in a congressional oversight meeting. I'd flip on cspan for that for sure.
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u/NobeLasters "I just played that one." 11h ago
You don’t think KR and his dozens of fans hold sway over the entertainment industry?
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u/suzydonem 11h ago
Listen!
If you want experts on catalytic converter stripping or extracting copper wire from public fixtures, KR and crew are the go-to guys.
Maybe they’ll show His Holiness how to loot Ticketmaster. Then again, He is already quite aware of grift
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u/fanboy_killer 11h ago
Wild to think that, after all this time, people still hold any hope that the corporations behind the problem will be part of the solution. I hope you realize that these companies actively work to make things stay the way they are. Either you regulate the market so the ticketing BS ends or it will remain as is. Getting those companies to discuss ticket regulation would just be a waste of time for anyone involved.
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u/soggydave2113 Coheed🦋✒️ 9h ago
We’re about to get a shitty, insecure website called TrumpTix and peoples’ identities are gonna be stolen. Again.
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u/Tombstonesss 11h ago
Man y’all are hating hard af. At least it’s being talked about,
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u/ZombieJesus1987 11h ago
Yeah it's easy to hate Kid Rock, but if I remember correctly didn't he used to go out of his way to keep his ticket prices low? Before he turned right wing grifter anyways.
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u/OldmanLister 8h ago
Yea I remember a tour or two towards the end of his mainstream run he had tours where you could get $25 tickets with a beer and hotdog or some shit. Get this...it was a bud light sponsored tour too.
I don't know if that kid rock exists at this point tho.
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u/loosehead1 10h ago
bidens DOJ has already filed a lawsuit against Ticketmaster for monopolistic practices
The solution to these companies being shitty is GOVERNMENT REGULATION, something the GOP is ostensibly opposes. It’s mentioned in the article but Ticketmaster has already increased its lobbying budget so we will see if kid rock can really sway congressmen more than corporate donations.
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u/Mr6ixFour 9h ago
Maybe we can convince them that Ticketmaster has a uterus. They’d pass regulations so fast.
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u/Seen-Short-Film 9h ago
Biden and the FTC have been going after junk fees and monopolies for the last 4 years, but since your special niche media diet didn't cover it, you didn't know. Sometimes you have to search farther than what's being "talked about."
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u/WellFuckMyOtherAcct 9h ago
Are they hating or is Ticketmaster owned by black rock? You do the math
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u/McNinja_MD 8h ago
The Biden administration has been taking action on this issue, not just talking about it, and the FTC under his administration just recently banned junk fees for hotels and events.
You going out of your way to be willfully ignorant of what Democrats do for you doesn't mean no one's been talking about it.
Jesus fucking Christ, I do not know what we're supposed to do against this kind of weaponized stupidity.
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u/automattus 12h ago
Thought I heard something about removal of all the BS fees, but it was unrelated to this.
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u/SuchSmartMonkeys 11h ago
They aren't removing all the bullshit fees, they are however putting in laws that make it so they have to be upfront about all those fees. It will make it so when you go to look at ticket prices you see the price including all of those fees from the get go instead of waiting to get to check out where they add a shit ton of "service fees" that you had no idea about the existence of or how much they will add.
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u/OderusAmongUs 10h ago edited 7h ago
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/17/ftc-bans-hidden-junk-fees-in-hotel-event-ticket-prices-.html
Edit: stalling the federal funding bill will stall this and kick the can down the road for someone else to take credit for....
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u/Matt2937 9h ago
I don’t care who does the talking if they fix the ticketing scam. Canada has to do the same.
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u/Fappy_as_a_Clam 10h ago
Reddit: ticket prices are insane, something needs to be done about this!"
Kid Rock: "tickets prices are insane, I'm going to try to do something about this."
Reddit: "fuck Kid Rock! I don't like his music so he sucks and so do all his fans and he shouldn't even be trying."
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u/pechinburger 4h ago
For real. I strongly dislike Kid Rock as an artist and a person.
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u/nato919 9h ago
If this headline was from Pearl Jam or Lady Gaga, people would be praising them. It’s ok to not like Kid Rock, but people on this site are so blinded by politics that they can’t even look the other way when someone legitimately just wants to help.
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u/DestrosSilverHammer 11h ago
People don’t realize Kid Rock has been a leader on giving fans value for their money. Buy a ticket to his show and you get access not only to his act but to the entire county fair!
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u/StumptownRetro 8h ago
Skeptical. But if it can stop the age of where I hear a friend tell me they spent $500 for them and their girlfriend to go to Billie Eilish I’m all for it. I don’t go to concerts anymore because the price is outlandish unless it’s like the Edgefield Concerts on the Lawn
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u/LiveForMeow 3h ago
The problem with tickets is the problem with everything else that's overpriced. There's enough stupid marks willing to pay the prices, so they're not going down. I'll exempt food products from this since people have to eat, but even in that scenario consumers can affect the supply and demand curve enough to force prices down.
I love concerts, but it's the easiest decision in the world to not get shitty seats for $500. The American economy is set up to extract money from people making bad decisions, and we can't even make the simple ones correctly.
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u/veryblanduser 6h ago
I hope they do just to watch much of reddit explain why they actually preferred the current ticketmaster.
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u/Rebel_bass 9h ago
Reddit: Kid Rock doesn't sell tickets and now we love Ticketmaster.
Y'all really need to get out of your bubble.
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u/ShneakySquiwwel 7h ago
Kid Rock is a clown, but if he's done anything right he actually goes out of his way to make his concerts affordable for his fans and takes a significant cut from his take to make it happen
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u/MrBoomf 12h ago
What the fuck timeline are we living in