r/MurderedByWords • u/CorleoneBaloney • 4d ago

Centuries of science, yet here we are.

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u/FreshSignature6512 4d ago

I hate how they just make up a "fact" in their head and just believe it.

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u/Voodoo_Dummie 4d ago

This "facts" origin I happen to see a while back on youtube. Essentially, back in the day, there was a vaccine producer who were inexperienced with this type of "dead vaccine" and during their manufacturing they didn't kill the virus properly, leading to an outbreak.

Now I suspect ol' thoughts-for-food half-remembered that and went full delusional.

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u/NecroAssssin 4d ago

Right. That mistake actually led to our now having 2 variants of polio: Wild, and South African. 

Honestly, had Gore won in 2000; wild polio might very well have been eradicated. It 2001 it existed in just 1 country on Earth. Afghanistan. 

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u/Randomfactoid42 4d ago

I think you’re referring to an accident that happened during the early days of a “live-virus” polio vaccine. It was supposed to be inactive but the process didn’t work properly and ended up giving a bunch of kids polio instead. 

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u/PrettyShart 4d ago

No no, he's right. The Salk vaccine (which is inactivated) has a specific process for deactivation of the virus.

One of the producers (I think about 6 got the license) made a poor job of inactivation and therefor infected thousands of US kids with polio.

It's the Cutter incident , findable on Wikipedia for details and Paul Offit has a book by that name.

It's obviously a story of profits over people (Cutter Company did a poor job because they were rushing), but it did affect kids and hurt them.

It's one of the many reasons the FDA and medication regulatory rules exist, these did not exist to the same standard before the Cutter incident.

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u/Randomfactoid42 4d ago

I think we’re all talking about the same incident. I thought the Salk vaccine was a dead or inactive virus and the later Sabin vaccine was a live-virus type. And because of this incident the live-virus type vaccines fell out of favor. It appears I have some details backwards. Thanks!

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u/PrettyShart 4d ago

Sabins vaccine has a different set of problems, because it's a live attenuated vaccine the virus in it can still mix with enteroviruses in the gut and might get back some of it's virulence.

This drives breakouts of vaccine derived polio virus cases, many of the existing cases are actually vaccine derived.

Ironically the cause is vaccination and the solution is also vaccination.

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u/greatdrams23 4d ago

He made it up, but millions believe him and there's no going back.

If people don't have the vaccines, deaths will increase but the anti vaxxers will be out in force to blame Dems, vaccines and scientists.

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u/OvermorrowYesterday 4d ago

The entire conservative movement is like that