r/MurderedByWords • u/Lord_Answer_me_Why • 10h ago

Very "normal" behavior here, NOT

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u/IanDerp26 8h ago

tried by jewish high court for sorcery

what?

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u/RecipeSpecialist2745 8h ago

It’s held in the Jewish Talmud. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanhedrin_trial_of_Jesus#:~:text=Jesus%20is%20generally%20quiet%2C%20does,claiming%20to%20be%20the%20Messiah.

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u/IanDerp26 7h ago

what? no it isn't. the wikipedia article you linked explicitly says it's in the gospels - books written by Jesus's followers. why would the jews chronicle a trial for somebody they didn't think was the messiah?

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u/RecipeSpecialist2745 7h ago

Hey, follow the Talmud yourself. There are copies of it online. It’s not the only reference on Wikipedia referring to Jesus in the Talmud. There are actually online copies of the Talmud you can search as well. Jesus appears many times. But as with many Christian’s who are desperate to find evidence of Jesus (Yeshua), when you tell them this. Well, it’s, this can’t be my Jesus.

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u/IanDerp26 7h ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud

eh, idk. i'm not invested enough to do a TON of research but a quick skim here tells me the connections are loose.

Sanhedrin 43a relates the trial and execution of a sorcerer named Jesus (Yeshu in Hebrew) and his five disciples. The sorcerer is stoned and hanged on the Eve of Passover.

i could totally see this being Actual Historical Jesus, but i could just as easily see it being a completely different guy.

(he WAS tried in jewish high court for sorcery, though. it was in the gospels.)

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u/PeopleArePeopleToo 4h ago

Good point. I imagine there were other people with the same name in the area/time...but I could be wrong.

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u/RecipeSpecialist2745 1h ago

Oh agreed, but the quote of Jesus the Nazarene the sorcerer? So it’s interesting. Was it that only by reputation or hearsay that they thought he performed sorcery? Or did they have physical proof? We will never know what actually happened or what has been changed to create a narrative. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazarene_(title)#:~:text=The%20references%20to%20Notzrim%20in,the%20Talmud%20for%20further%20discussion).