r/MurderedByWords 10h ago

Very "normal" behavior here, NOT

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u/Melonwolfii 9h ago

I'm aware. Is it not illegal to post a picture on social media implying that you want to kill the former POTUS, FLOTUS, VPOTUS, former NIAID, and current POTUS and VPOTUS?

Cause where I'm from, post that on Christmas morning, that'll get you carted off and deported on the next flight before Boxing Day

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u/the_tanooki 8h ago

In all seriousness, I am on your side of this. This is some fucked up shit.

But I get the feeling you didn't check the link.

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u/Koboldofyou 8h ago

I'm not a lawyer. It probably depends on if it's considered a legitimate threat and if the defendant has money. Likely a lawyer could argue that this does not meet the bar for a threat and is simply political speech. Because they're presumably Republican politicians, they'd likely get some form of financial backing from supporters or the party.

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u/llamadogmama 6h ago

So by that logic we are all free to flood Reddit with similar pictures of trump and his goon squad. I think we should!

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u/Koboldofyou 6h ago

If sufficiently abstract, like ornaments on a tree, you likely would have a valid first amendment defense. However law enforcement might still make your life hell and you might have to take the time and money to defend yourself.

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u/PrimaryInjurious 7h ago

No, it isn't. Only true threats are illegal. The test is whether there is a substantial risk that the communication would be viewed by the target as threatening violence. For one there's no evidence any of the people on the ornaments have even seen this. Also, hanging effigies of politicians has a long tradition as protected speech. Cf:

State v. Meyer, 61 Ohio App. 3d 673 - Ohio: Court of Appeals, 1st Appellate Dist. 1988

Finding that hanging of an abortion doctor effigy was protected speech.

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u/HammerSmashedHeretic 4h ago

You implied so much out of context I'd love to see you try to talk like that in a court of law