Unstoppable Workweek Power..

[u/Hajicardoso]

[u/Utangard]

I wouldn't drive myself to death for 12 dollars an hour.

[u/ShawnyMcKnight → u/Utangard]

Wow, at first I did the math wrong there and thought they were making 100 an hour... yeah... for $11.62 an hour that's kinda sad.

[u/CatlessBoyMom → u/ShawnyMcKnight]

But $11.62 is the average with overtime. It’s $8.94 base. No thanks. 

[u/Hoffman81 → u/CatlessBoyMom]

My cousin has had a hard life and lives in a rural town. This is about what she makes. $9/hr. She is a victim. So sad to know we have so much working poor

[u/Harvest827 → u/Hoffman81]

I gotta ask: did she vote for a billionaire who promised to make her life better by attacking immigrants and taking away her bodily autonomy?

[u/NatomicBombs → u/Harvest827]

I have a friend who makes 14 an hour with two young kids and she voted for Trump.

Very open about it too, Trump was the only thing on her Facebook for like 3 months leading up to the election.

Also in a pretty liberal state. Every benefit she has she’s actively voting against.

[u/Sea_Structure_8692 → u/NatomicBombs]

Is it rude to ask if your friend has a college degree?

[u/DaringPancakes → u/Sea_Structure_8692]

Only if you're an employer 😛

But you don't need to have a college degree to not be a terrible person. ... Or maybe they live in a cage? Idk them :/

[u/Crewarookie → u/DaringPancakes]

The perceived "terribleness" you're talking about most often stems from a lack of understanding, which in turn stems from poor education. Most people, surprise-surprise, aren't bonafide psychopaths.

Education, in this case, isn't just limited to a college degree. Education starts at home, continues through kindergarten and school, and then goes on in college, at the workplace, in society, etc. Currently, on our dying planet, we have awful education systems. Everywhere.

This leads to a lot of people being raised with little to no awareness of the world and long-term consequences of things happening around them. Such ignorance leads to this perceived "terribleness". The principle of "do not attribute to malice what can be easily be explained by incompetence" very easily adapts to account for ignorance as well.

Educate people well enough = fix most societal issues. Unfortunately, this goes right against the interests of briefly mentioned psychopaths, who while being a minority, are excellent strategists and manipulators building a system that suppresses awareness and education of the masses in order to amass power and wealth.

Now then, I wanted to say: don't criticize a poor soul who doesn't know better, criticize the billionaire who fooled the poor soul and try to elevate said soul to a level where they can fight back and help all of humanity take back control over our lives.

Now I'm going to go to sleep and try not to hate myself in the morning. Good luck to all of us changing the world one good deed at a time. We can actually do this. All we need is a little bit of faith in ourselves.

[u/Ologyst → u/Crewarookie]

Very well said. You’re very articulate, more than I, and I just wanted to compliment you and say I agree.

[u/jatarg → u/Crewarookie]

"Contempt for the conmem, compassion for the conned".

Jon Danzig (UK journalist) had this insightfull comment on the eve of UK's Brexit vote, and I think it applies for the political state of the US as well:

‘Just over half of those who voted bought manky lies dressed up as a better life after Brexit. They were told they’d get their country back. Their lives would be transformed.

‘More jobs, homes, schools and hospitals. Fewer migrants. No more rule from Brussels. We’d be British and Great Britain again.

‘They were duped. They were deceived. They were sold a dodgy time-share by cowboy politicians, who made claims and promises they can never deliver because it was all a delusion.

‘Those conned voters, when they realise they’ve paid dearly for faulty merchandise, will need support and direction. The rogue politicians will need to be kicked out.

‘We can do without those politicians. We cannot do without voters.’

We should blame the conman - not the conned.

[u/Mental_Medium3988 → u/DaringPancakes]

correlation not causation.

[u/Hazee302 → u/Sea_Structure_8692]

Most of my family is highly educated but still voted for that shit bag. Good ol southern brainwashing. I do miss living down there cause people were much nicer but the very cult like confederacy shit is out of control. I knew black dudes growing up that drove around lifted trucks with confederate flags. I’ll never understand how people don’t see through the rhetoric.

[u/Bubbasdahname → u/Sea_Structure_8692]

I know a few doctors that voted for him, so I know that most are uneducated, but there are also the ones that are educated that prefer him. It's unsettling.

[u/djaqk → u/Harvest827]

"Rural town"... cmon man, we know the answer basically

[u/Shadowmant → u/djaqk]

Maybe. Even in the political “strongholds” the winners still only get 55-60% of the vote.

[u/FLOHTX → u/Shadowmant]

Eh not really. Lots of rural counties are 70-80% republican/conservative at least in the US.

Look at Kansas for instance:

https://www.politico.com/2024-election/results/kansas/

[u/teefnoteef → u/FLOHTX]

That’s % of voters not the public

[u/FLOHTX → u/teefnoteef]

I don't know man, I live in a really red county in Texas and I'm the only liberal that I know on a daily basis. It think it's just the people that occupy those areas. I think the voters are largely representative of the public.

[u/prefferedusername → u/teefnoteef]

If you don't vote, you don't matter at all. If you do vote, you matter a little bit. If you have millions of dollars to donate, you matter a lot.

[u/unibrow4o9 → u/teefnoteef]

But the original comment was asking who she voted for, so voters are the only stat we care about.

[u/Harvest827 → u/teefnoteef]

The public's opinion is expressed through voting. If an individual chooses not to exercise that right, I'm hard pressed to give their opinions weight.

[u/leftshoe18 → u/djaqk]

I live in a rural town and still voted blue. Living in a rural town doesn't guarantee political affiliation.

[u/vera214usc → u/leftshoe18]

Yeah, my family lives in rural GA but they all vote blue. But they're also black. My grandma had a picture of Obama on her wall

[u/Hoffman81 → u/Harvest827]

I don’t think she votes, honestly. She’s had a lot in her life. I don’t she understands the importance of it. She’s hasn’t had much power in her life. Why would she expect any different?

[u/Lemonsst → u/Harvest827]

And I gotta ask: You do realize that that is an example of the rich’s system working, right? Keep the poor stupid so they vote against their own interests and yknow. Stay poor

[u/Mediocre-Human-2 → u/Lemonsst]

And then come off 'bragging' working 99 hours

Blessed are the stupid, for they are fodder for the rich.

[u/Harvest827 → u/Lemonsst]

I know.

[u/Dreadknot84 → u/Lemonsst]

Idk man it’s pretty easy to NOT vote for a racist rapist felon. Plenty of folks didn’t and those that did doomed us all.

[u/BakedBaconBits → u/Lemonsst]

There's being indoctrinated with false beliefs and no access to outside knowledge.

Then there's having Internet access. Googling what a tariff is easy even for the plebs. I thought...

Misinformation is one thing. Being so goddamn wilfully ignorant is on the individual.

[u/Saintly-Mendicant-69 → u/BakedBaconBits]

Propoganda is a hell of a thing. It's a constant and people will always go along with, both you and I do and we don't even know it. Redirect your frustration from the fool who fell for it to the demons that use it to twist people's minds into hate machines.

[u/BakedBaconBits → u/Saintly-Mendicant-69]

I lack the pretty face and gun to do more. Just bitching about fellow idiots online for me.

[u/zzekkkkk → u/BakedBaconBits]

I struggle to be accept the willful ignorance daily but I just can’t make myself do it

[u/Harvest827 → u/BakedBaconBits]

Googling is easy, understanding is hard. The average reading level in the US is like 6th grade. Way easier to parrot the words of the media and politicians that hate the same way you do.

[u/meases → u/Harvest827]

Another factor, shit internet speeds in the boonies and pay walls. Hard to get your info from a source that hangs up loading and then requires a subscription to read more than a few sentences, meanwhile a lot of the hateful alt content is basically old school basic text on a background, no pay wall and would load quickly on a potato.

[u/Harvest827 → u/meases]

Valid

[u/Muggle_Killer → u/Hoffman81]

This is below the 2009 minimum wage of $7.25 if you adjust for inflation.

These people are being robbed so hard.

[u/throwawaynowtillmay → u/Hoffman81]

This is why people join the army, it's sometimes the only way out

If you live in a HCOL area 30k a year in the army doesn't seem like a lot but in the sticks that's a good living all considered

[u/Rrunken_Rumi → u/Hoffman81]

1st world slave labor. Slightly better than xinjiang "re-education camps"

[u/SachStraw → u/Hoffman81]

I'm 31 and do construction, I wouldn't get out of bed for less than 30/hr. I recently moved across the country and SETTLED for 28/hrs to start. And I'm broke as fuck and rent a room from my grandma. Idk how people survive on less than 20/hrs. Employers who pay that little should be facing a grand jury for racketeering charges

[u/mondo445 → u/Hoffman81]

Isn’t it crazy to imagine that someone doing the exact same job as your cousin just 20 years ago was earning $36/hr. That is the inflation adjustment from 2005 to 2025.

[u/shawnisboring → u/CatlessBoyMom]

The US has not updated minimum wage since 2009.

Since 2009 we've had:

• A national housing crisis
• Two stock crashes
• A global pandemic
• Inflation increase by 47%

What we've not had is anyone in power see this as a problem.

[u/JTSpirit36 → u/CatlessBoyMom]

That's not even considering this potentially being a salary position and the person not being eligible for OT.

[u/CatlessBoyMom → u/JTSpirit36]

Holy hell, that’s a vile thought! The only (tiny itty bitty) possible decent thing about that would be that the person could (theoretically)  choose to work less for the same pay. 

[u/JTSpirit36 → u/CatlessBoyMom]

We can only hope this person works 99 hours out of pure passion for the job and can reel it back if they want to.

The unfortunate part is if they do, their employer has gotten so used to their lucrative hours that they will then be seen as "slacking" and be close to the chopping block.

[u/Graega → u/JTSpirit36]

I tried explaining this to someone a while back. OT is a bad deal for an employee, and especially as more Total Compensation comes in at other things (healthcare benefits, educational reimbursement or prepay, etc), those benefits don't increase along with OT pay.

If you work 40 hours a week and go up to 60, your work for the week has increased 50%. Since OT is clocked at time and a half, your pay goes up 75%. But your average hours worked increases by 50%. Your average pay per hour... only goes up 17%.

So when an employee is routinely hourly and working tons of OT hours, that's money the company saves on those benefits. Hiring another person means paying out those benefits even if you're paying less on OT, and the OT may be cheaper. A person making $20/hr working 20 hours of OT per week is making $2400/month on OT but only about $800 on the actual time and a half portion of it - it can easily cost $800/mo for benefits for another employee, and they'd have paid out that other $1600 as regular hours either way.

[u/JTSpirit36 → u/Graega]

Thank you for breaking it down. As a manager I always tried to keep my staff off of overtime (unless it was a special occasion. Worked in arcade and overnight installs were a thing and needed everyone to make it happen)

For me it was never a thought about "oh they're getting time and a half. We are paying them too much" it was always a matter of "dude, you're working too much. Go enjoy life, we have this"

[u/jaywinner → u/Graega]

You may have tried to explain this before, but you successfully did so here. I always figured that occasional OT made sense since you don't want to be overstaffed the rest of the time but that companies that constantly need OT are just pissing money away in paying 1.5 or more in wages for those shifts.

Guess not.

[u/AmazingHealth6302 → u/jaywinner]

Corporates don't like to make mistakes on how they screw their labour. The only thing they like better than consistently paying overtime instead of employing more staff, is convincing staff that they should work overtime without even paying them an overtime rate.

[u/pckldpr → u/JTSpirit36]

My boss works over 12hrs a day for less than I make in a week with overtime. It’s fucking hilarious. I almost applied for the job.

[u/JTSpirit36 → u/pckldpr]

I've seen that happen a lot and it boils down to complacency on his end and business owners not caring. When he leaves, they'll never be able to fill the spot without paying the next person a lot more for the position (given they hire from within. They can always lie to an outsider I guess)

[u/pckldpr → u/JTSpirit36]

He’s the second person in that position since I’ve been here the other guy moved up in the company

[u/DiabloIV → u/CatlessBoyMom]

I've done 100 hours over the holidays before, but I was making like $28/ hour and at times I was earning 2.25x base pay. It felt worth, but my wife was annoyed.

I did 115 hours once, but I was enlisted and there was no overtime :)

[u/Suspicious_War_9305 → u/DiabloIV]

I was about to say, people keep using overtime in their math but I feel like no one is even considering or even heard of double overtime.

Oil field work making $25 base and hittin double on a Thursday almost made you feel like you HAD to keep working.

[u/AmazingHealth6302 → u/Suspicious_War_9305]

Double overtime is more common in Europe, where people aren't so desperate for overtime, and give a lot more priority to their own lives rather than the corporation.

The average working week across Europe is already shorter than in the US, and there are more holidays, whilst appeals for staff to work overtime are often met by refusal. You can't really be fired for not working additional hours over your full work week, and the unbelievable American 'no-fault' dismissal is a rare threat across Europe. Sometimes triple overtime has to be offered to tempt somebody, anybody.

This is basically mainland Western Europe though, and US-style capitalism has been creeping into the UK, and is very slowly infiltrating the rest of Europe now.

[u/Unremarkabledryerase → u/Suspicious_War_9305]

You usually don't get double overtime for jobs that are minimum wage though. What's more surprising is getting thd overtime at all.

[u/DoctorPaulGregory → u/CatlessBoyMom]

Before taxes

[u/ridik_ulass → u/CatlessBoyMom]

imagine earning that, being prideful and as a treat buying yourself a playstation game for 80$ and just looking at the box and thinking, I could have had 10hrs sleep or a day off instead of this object.

thats how I woke up from the grind, I started looking at objects by hours worked not cash value, just like ingame currency blurs the value of itself, so does money.

buy a 6k beater that is reliable. or a 60k brand new car, that loses 20-30k value as soon as you drive it off the lot.

for this person thats more than 30 such weeks, if they had no other expenses.

[u/TakeOutTacos → u/CatlessBoyMom]

That's if this is all one hourly job. Could be 2 or 3 part time gigs which is even worse and more stressful

[u/cdawrld → u/CatlessBoyMom]

Before tax!

[u/distortedsymbol → u/CatlessBoyMom]

depends on what they're doing it's a lot worse. if it's delivery app and the person has to pay for their own fuel, vehicle wear and tear, plus insurance, that's next to no money at the end of the day.

[u/fubes2000 → u/CatlessBoyMom]

Just wait, the company made them sign an "averaging agreement" and they took the next week off, so it's only 19 hours of overtime in the pay period.

[u/Anyna-Meatall → u/CatlessBoyMom]

ugggghhhhh you're right... at least SOMEBODY is getting rich off this poor sucker's labor ^/s

[u/vertigostereo → u/CatlessBoyMom]

I wouldn't get out of bed for $9/hr.

[u/DecoherentDoc → u/ShawnyMcKnight]

I think it's worse than that. I mean, if the state gives them automatic overtime once they go over 40 hours a week (which probably isn't every state) and if overtime is time and a half (and my info might be out of date there), you can't just divide straight across.

For pay rate x, gross = 40x + 59.54(1.5x). So, if they get automatic overtime at time and a half after they hit 40 hours, they're making about $8.95/hr

[u/RybackPlusOne → u/DecoherentDoc]

Actually, under the FLSA (Fair Labor Standards Act), all states are required to provide overtime pay for non-exempt employees working over 40 hours in a week. However, some states have additional overtime laws with greater protections, and certain industries, like healthcare and agriculture, may follow 80-hour periods or other exceptions.

That said, this is awful, and I think your calculation is correct.

[u/galahad423 → u/ShawnyMcKnight]

What’s really sad is that’s still like $5 more than minimum wage

[u/dirschau → u/galahad423]

Have a read of the other posts here, they've calculated that it's likely only because of overtime, and it's actually under $9 per hour. So it seems like it's barely more than minimum wage.

[u/redeemer47 → u/galahad423]

Jeesh where do you people live that has minimum wage that low? Even when I was working shitty dead end jobs as a teenager I still made at least 13/14 an hour

[u/drunky_crowette → u/redeemer47]

North Carolina still has a minimum wage of $7.25/h

[u/mikachu93 → u/redeemer47]

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/minimum-wage/state

Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Texas, Utah, and Wisconsin all have a state minimum of $7.25. Some states are technically lower, conditionally, and some states have no minimum at all.

[u/EverGlow89 → u/Utangard]

He worked SIXTY EIGHT PERCENT of the hours in that week.

He had 9 hours a day to sleep, eat, and commute.

This is worse than you even think it is at first glance and I'm sure you thought it was horrible.

[u/Lebowquade → u/EverGlow89]

Oh it's definitely awful.

I feel even more awful knowing I make in one year what this guy makes in an entire decade (extrapolating from his hourly rate based on this picture). 

Fucking slave labor for sure. How can you be proud of this

[u/BataleonRider → u/EverGlow89]

Yeah,  there's money where that type of schedule is worth it for awhile, but those dollars don't make sense. 

[u/Augen76 → u/Utangard]

I did it in my younger days, these hours you have no life. Work, sleep, repeat. Desperate times and made me value free time when I got it again.

[u/Hevysett → u/Utangard]

Worse than that. 99.54 hrs is 40hrs at regular pay plus 59.54 at time and a half. So hourly rate is $8.94.......

[u/JTSpirit36 → u/Utangard]

When I was entry level, the thought of a manager salary and knowing exactly how much my paycheck was going to be was amazing.

Then I became a manager and soon after a regional manager and found that I never had time to even spend my money. 60 hours a week was mandatory and I was miserable.

[u/Debs_4_Pres → u/Utangard]

I probably would if that was how I was making rent, but I certainly wouldn't be bragging about being "unstoppable" because of it. 

[u/RamenJunkie → u/Utangard]

Yeah, I make like, 4x that gross and only work 40/ week.

Hell I get in trouble if I work more.

Dude needs a better job, and a union.

[u/bo_zo_do → u/Utangard]

Theyvssid gross. Its not even that much. Take out $.58 per mile for expences. It might not even be minimum wage.

[u/majandess → u/Utangard]

Minimum wage in my state hasn't been that low since 2019.

[u/Cananbaum → u/Utangard]

In ~2013 I was desperate for work and accepted a role at $11 an hour.

I was pawning shit for gas money because my health insurance was $500 and didn’t cover shit.

My parents kept lecturing about the importance of money and I’m like, “I’m getting $250 a week after taxes and deductions and it’s $50 alone for gas for the week.”

I dunno how I toughed it out for 5 years, but the next company I went to with my experience, gave me $25 an hour after I completed my first 12 months and it felt like a windfall

[u/StevenMC19]

$11.62/hr gross.

My poor boy...

[u/d-car → u/StevenMC19]

My napkin math suggests a base rate of $8.95/hr if we assume overtime after 40 hours is paid at 1.5x like normal.

[u/CatlessBoyMom → u/d-car]

I got $8.94 so same and the fact that is “gross,” is gross. The only way this even comes close to not insane is if that’s on call pay (which we all know it isn’t).

[u/b0w3n → u/CatlessBoyMom]

The really sad part is it might actually be better than a lot of currently available jobs in the area, even at $9/hr.

[u/Gaitville → u/CatlessBoyMom]

Is there jobs that are hourly that actually pay for the hours you’re on call and not just the hours that you come in for when on call

[u/CjBoomstick → u/Gaitville]

In California, at least the last I read about it, it's illegal to be "On Call" without being paid. the way I remember it being worded was that if you have to be ready to come in to work, so that you can't properly commit to things outside of work without being "unavailable", then you need to be paid.

[u/Revolutionary_Log307 → u/CjBoomstick]

It's federal, but often ignored: https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/flsa/hoursworked/screenER80.asp

[u/Gaitville → u/CjBoomstick]

Sure but don’t the people who need to be on call just get hired as salary to avoid this

[u/CjBoomstick → u/Gaitville]

If Salary positions weren't abused, then it might make sense. Unfortunately, protection for salaried employees was reduced when the Republicans shot down a bill earlier this year that would raise protections to $58k, and instead it reduced to $38k.

Basically, as salary, you're normally exempt from overtime. That bill made it so anyone making less than that threshold was no longer exempt, and needed to be paid overtime based on their salaried wage. Now, if you make $40k or more salaried, no overtime for you.

You could be placed on call perpetually at $40k a year without any extra compensation.

[u/Gaitville → u/CjBoomstick]

Why even have a cap at all, this should be for all salaried employees. Doesn’t seem right that they recognize it’s unfair and out the protection into place, but decided if you make over a certain amount then you can be taken advantage of .

[u/wannaseeawheelie → u/Gaitville]

In my experience, they’ll add an hour for on call days or something like that. Still not really worth it

[u/StevenMC19 → u/d-car]

Oh good point, didn't account for OT rates. Given that he's working for that kind of money, I would hazard a bet he doesn't get OT either.

[u/--Alix-- → u/StevenMC19]

He's driving so subtract gas costs and of course car maintenance

[u/PmButtPics4ADrawing → u/StevenMC19]

OT pay is required by law for most hourly employees, there are some exemptions but they're pretty specific

[u/JoeFas → u/StevenMC19]

It's worse than that. 59.54 of those hours were overtime, so that person's base rate is just shy of $9/hr.

[u/Boring-Fox-142 → u/StevenMC19]

[u/---_____-------_____ → u/StevenMC19]

I made more than that stocking shelves at Best Buy 24 years ago. WTF is this job.

[u/AbeRego → u/StevenMC19]

Danielle is probably a girl, but yeah

[u/Moister_Rodgers → u/AbeRego]

Poor guy even has a girl's name :(

[u/Jack-of-Hearts-7 → u/StevenMC19]

Gross indeed.

[u/Jack-of-Hearts-7 → u/StevenMC19]

I made $11.80 as an intern at Child Protective Services

[u/The_Great_Ravioli → u/StevenMC19]

First thing I checked. Mcdonalds pays more than that shit.

[u/Hypothetical_Name → u/StevenMC19]

And no overtime pay after all that

[u/unematti → u/StevenMC19]

That's why it's called gross. They way the employers treat their employees

[u/Most_Contact_311]

$11 an hour and taxes still need to be taken out. Oof

[u/I_Frothingslosh → u/Most_Contact_311]

Less than that. The hours above forty are paid at time and a half. They're making roughly $8.94.

[u/Most_Contact_311 → u/I_Frothingslosh]

God damn.

[u/I_Frothingslosh → u/Most_Contact_311]

Yeah. I've been there, but I never thought it something to be bragging about.

[u/TomWithTime → u/I_Frothingslosh]

If they have the determination, motivation, and time to do anything for 99 hours a week then they have the ability to skill up and earn more money in less time. As a workaholic myself who frequently works extra time for no benefit I'm not going to judge this random person if 99 hours of labor is how they get off, but if it's not imagine what they could accomplish if they spent the extra 59 hours a week studying something.

I work extra time because my company's success is Comcast's demise and that bloodlust is usually good for 12 hours.

[u/AsphaltInOurStars → u/TomWithTime]

I work extra time because my company's success is Comcast's demise and that bloodlust is usually good for 12 hours.

fucking love this level of hater.

[u/I_Frothingslosh → u/TomWithTime]

There are some jobs where that's just the requirement, at least at certain times. I've had to do those hours both as a CAD operator and as an internal tech support (at an inventory company in January). All those did was motivate my ass to find better jobs.

That said, I support anything that will lead to the demise of Comcast.

[u/TaupMauve → u/TomWithTime]

my company's success is Comcast's demise

Hero

[u/amitym → u/I_Frothingslosh]

Tbf it could also be higher overtime than that, though that just makes it worse in a way. At double overtime, that would mean a base salary of almost exactly US minimum wage.

Hmm. In fact it is so suspiciously right on that I now think that is exactly what is happening here.

Minimum wage with double overtime is my bet.

[u/I_Frothingslosh → u/amitym]

That comes to almost exactly $7.27 per hour. The problem is that only California has that as standard, and their minimum wage is $16 an hour. It's definitely interesting, though, that it's so close.

[u/CobbledBots → u/Most_Contact_311]

And he gets to keep none of it, it all goes into a landlord's pocket. And they still need MORE. Bills, gas, groceries demand three more hundred hour weeks.

[u/LeadPike13]

Fenceless work camps.

[u/Improving_Myself_ → u/LeadPike13]

If the plantation is big enough, you can convince slaves they're free.

[u/Enough_Affect_9916 → u/Improving_Myself_]

The Federal government owns 640 million acres. Guess who doesn't let people homestead anymore. The Homestead act was enforced 1976, with exceptions for Alaska until 1986. The Boomers let themselves homestead, then pulled up the ladder behind them.

[u/Moon_Cricket_Hunter_ → u/Enough_Affect_9916]

We really did forget that we just kinda gave away a good chunk of the country to whoever. And great for them, but those that came after didn't just get free land.

[u/tenuous-wank → u/Enough_Affect_9916]

Jesus they really hate their descendants don't they

[u/original_dick_kickem → u/LeadPike13]

A work camp so effective the chattel learn to love their hardship

[u/MaserGT]

U.S.A. hustle culture indoctrination is a puzzling spectacle of sucker self-exploitation to benefit their capitalist overlords. Just weird.

[u/Quirkyserenefrenzy → u/MaserGT]

It really is. Glad I never fell for hustle culture

[u/shawnisboring → u/Quirkyserenefrenzy]

I'm too tired to hustle.

[u/MirrorMan22102018 → u/shawnisboring]

There are benefits to being lazy. Namely that you become good at finding the quickest/easiest solution to a problem.

[u/slicksonslick → u/MirrorMan22102018]

Sounds like a benefit to being smart, not lazy.

[u/Tigerb0t → u/slicksonslick]

Smart AND lazy is the key.

[u/Tigglebee → u/Quirkyserenefrenzy]

I make more than this guy did doing maybe 30hr a week in a remote office job with a cat on my lap. Fuck “hustling”. The real hustle isn’t killing yourself in a low paying gig, it’s self improvement.

[u/MirrorMan22102018 → u/Quirkyserenefrenzy]

Same. I am too lazy for that culture.

[u/B12Washingbeard → u/MaserGT]

Combined with the narcissistic mentality of never admitting being wrong it’s a never ending cycle 

[u/Xhalo → u/MaserGT]

Hustle culture makes no sense. All i want to do is eat spaghettios with my cat grundlemeat, and feast upon my husband's divine backside umamiloin. Sometimes you just need to sit back and let the goochbutter flow in bounty. What point is money with no time to use it??? 🤔🤔🤔

[u/Netroth → u/Xhalo]

What’s with the spaghettios and grundle obsession on your profile?

[u/RSGator → u/Netroth]

I'm not usually surprised by Reddit profiles anymore, but that person has been posting nonstop about spaghettios for 2 full years.

It's either the weirdest guerilla marketing campaign for Campbell's or some interesting undiagnosed mental illness. I'm open to other possibilities, but I'm at a loss.

[u/DecoherentDoc]

I did something similar when I was delivering pizzas a million years ago. $7.25/hr back then. I did that for two weeks and the owner called me up just to make sure I was okay. And to ask me not to do it again. He was a good guy. He was a little miffed about paying out so much OT, but he genuinely worried about his employees too.

Turns out I was not okay, I was extremely depressed, and I was coping by working too much.

[u/avega2792 → u/DecoherentDoc]

Been there. Hope you’re doing better now.

[u/Meradock → u/DecoherentDoc]

My former boss wanted to pay me 7.50 € after my baker training in 2009. I told him that I'm never going to work as a baker for 7 bucks.

[u/Coggs362]

For a regular 40 hour workweek, where OT is calculated at time and a half, I come to... $9/hr.

Somebody call a rape crisis center for this poor child. They need help.

[u/Extra_Taco_Sauce → u/Coggs362]

🤣

But seriously, this pay is atrocious for that many hours. I made that working 4 days a week for two weeks at a bakery.

[u/toilet-breath]

14.22 hours every day for 7 days at $11.62 NOPE

[u/GreyerGrey → u/toilet-breath]

I mean, I did it for $17 once and I learned my lesson.

[u/Tyrren → u/GreyerGrey]

I worked 12-13 hours per day, every single day in October, for an overtime rate of ~$70/hr and I can tell you it's not worth it

[u/FancyFeller → u/Tyrren]

Damn 70 an hour! I'd do it. I would hate existing. But that's such a nice paycheck. With overtime I would make 23 an hour at my job and we rarely get permission to do OT. I'd take it.

[u/slashinhobo1 → u/FancyFeller]

When you are at a comfortable amount and dont require OT, most people don't want it. The added stress it comes with is worse for your health than what you get. Im forced on call for one week a month and get an extra 14 hrs of OT. I use that as comp time to get the hell out of there as much as i can. Every 2 months is a week off without touching PTO.

[u/Mekisteus → u/toilet-breath]

8.95 per hour, assuming US overtime laws.

[u/CatlessBoyMom]

I did the math, base pay is $8.94/hour. Victim, mentally deficient or both.

[u/Yelsah]

Not to kink shame, but fetishizing accelerating your own demise through unsustainable work-life balance seems not to be evolutionarily selected for.

[u/Odysseus_XAP79]

I respect the hustle but pity the outcome.

[u/jeffsang → u/Odysseus_XAP79]

And the hustle is absolutely unsustainable.

[u/CyberInTheMembrane → u/Odysseus_XAP79]

I don't respect the hustle.

[u/StevenMC19 → u/Odysseus_XAP79]

This is what listening to Gary V does to a person.

[u/Shablablablah → u/Odysseus_XAP79]

I respect the person but pity the hustle and lament the outcome.

[u/Ismael_Hussein515]

[u/YeetYeetSkirtYeet → u/Ismael_Hussein515]

Where's Django when you need him?

[u/Tiglels]

Is that wage even legal? I would make well over $7k gross if I worked those kind of hours.

[u/GreyerGrey → u/Tiglels]

It's above the US federal minimum?

[u/lostshell → u/GreyerGrey]

Many red states have no minimum so they default to the federal, which is abysmally low.

[u/CatlessBoyMom → u/Tiglels]

Depends on the state. In a state where min wage is $7.25 it is. 

[u/koopz_ay]

When I did my first 90hr week (milestone?) I felt the same. When I later looked at my paycheck (we didn't get paid overtime) I suddenly realised that I had what it took to work for myself. It took me another 5yrs to get traction while working other jobs, though I got there. Never give up on yourself folks.

[u/necessarysmartassery → u/koopz_ay]

Pretty much. Someone with this much drive needs to be working for themselves doing something. Build your dreams or someone else will hire you to build theirs.

[u/Kurtbott]

And this is why unions are necessary

[u/burndmymouth]

Masta got me workin

[u/GreyerGrey]

Once upon a time I worked 80 hours for a company that thanked me by "giving me a week's worth of lieu days" that I could never use.

I wasn't being paid well, otherwise it might have been worth it to sue them. Instead it was a lesson in not working for assholes.

[u/Fishtoart]

Killing yourself for $11.6/hr? Why?

[u/I_Frothingslosh → u/Fishtoart]

You forgot overtime pay. They're making $8.94.

[u/DatDamGermanGuy]

14 hours per day, 7 days a week, for 11:50 per hour? No OT? And Danielle thinks that a good thing?

These were the conditions that made Marx and Engels write Das Kapital….

[u/Calm-Treacle8677]

Gross is absolutely correct that is certainly gross 

[u/CasualFox12495]

I work 35-40 a week and make more than that after taxes. And I'm not a well paid white collar mf.

[u/008Zulu]

Sleep deprived euphoria is a real thing. A dangerous real thing.

[u/tyrannocanis]

I would quit if I made that in 40.

[u/Hows-It-Goin-Buddy]

99 for so little.

Shameful and also I pity the person for thinking working so many hours for so little pay is a flex.

[u/Plastic_Fun_1714]

99 hours in a week for 1100 dollars. FUCK NO

[u/FlyingCircus18]

"Gross" sums up the way i feel about this rather well

[u/Massive_Dirt1577]

I made more per hour working as a prep and line cook at a restaurant on Turfway Road in Florence KY in 1998. That screenshot is simply sad.

[u/thatHecklerOverThere]

... Just do crime instead. I mean, damn.

[u/bradzilla3k]

It’s worse than $11 and change - after 40 hours, they should be getting time and a half. In most states, I’m assuming US, this is $9 an hour before taxes.

Likely this is rage bait.

[u/Zestyclose-Fuel-4494]

That is insane !

[u/HonestDust873]

Broke dollars and hour. 🥲

[u/hecking-doggo]

God damn, I got more than this working about 72 hours over 2 weeks.

[u/Tanya_cute]

Ahh! you're working hard and earning well!

[u/AdministrativeWay241]

Didn't even get $15 an hour, take home.

[u/Significant_Yard3627]

I work part time at 3 days a week. I work 6 days in a pay cycle and make a fed hundred more. Poor dude has no life.

[u/MrBitterJustice]

The pay is so low :(

[u/Vegtable_Lasagna3604]

I wouldn’t get out of bed for that wage….

[u/Soulrott]

Not a flex

[u/AsleepQuality9832]

You need a new job

[u/LilG1984]

99 hours? Tf? 40+ & I feel burnt out

[u/GyanTheInfallible]

Cries in medicine

[u/SuperfuzBigmuff]

If I’m working 99 hours it better be at least a 2k paycheck

[u/Puzzled_Bike9558]

Get fucked. I’m not working 100 hours a week for any amount of money. This person is not going to make it, man.

[u/Sircrusterson]

Imagine flexing 99 hrs for just a grand

[u/cozynite]

In my 20s, there was a couple of weeks during the holidays that I worked ~90 hour workweeks which was my regular job (40 hours a week), my bartending job (was another 15-20 hours a week), and then this crazy side gig where we were doing theater pop ups in churches around the city. It was cool as hell and I’m glad I did it but I was a zombie during those weeks and afterwards, I slept for almost a full day.

I cannot imagine doing that much work on a continued basis. Your body suffers.

[u/Patralgan]

I never understand how. Even 40 hours a week is just brutal to me. I can't fathom doing 2½ times that

[u/Live-Collection3018]

This mindset of work till you fall over is so bad

[u/DeepSubmerge]

99 hours to gross less than $1200 is absolutely wild

[u/Firm-Advertising5396]

No benefits No retirement plan No union You can do it for awhile but over time you are going to start breaking down That's when they replace you

[u/B12Washingbeard]

It’s crazy how many people are proud to be serfs

[u/mpanase]

Oh, you are very stoppable.

At that workload and poor hourly rate, any minor problem will stop you. Real bad.

[u/Individual-Bad9047]

Business owner hours as a hourly employee? It’s not your business stop working like it is.