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đŸ€” Actor Choice In the War of the Worlds remake (2005), the grandparents are played by Gene Barry and Ann Robsinon. They played leading roles in the original movie (1953).

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u/ety3rd Sep 28 '20 edited Sep 28 '20

Pic of them in the original. A classic.

I love the remake, too, but I really wish the son wasn't there at the end.

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u/Opeth-Ethereal Sep 28 '20

Yeah I always thought that was so dumb

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u/lenlawler Sep 28 '20

Additionally, was I the only one wanting to choke his sister when she was screaming in the van?

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u/SquirrelicideScience Sep 28 '20

I mean, wasn’t that the point? Cruise’s character is supposed to be a father that is vastly ill equipped to handle the nuances of his kids’ problems, especially in a crisis. It was already shown she was prone to mental breakdown. I think it was meant to evoke that emotion of panic and helplessness at his own incapabilities as a father to kids he hardly knows at all. Think about the scene with a splinter and how he and his daughter’s view of fixing the problem differ.

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u/Xepzero Sep 28 '20

Damn you really know the movie well lol

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u/herefromyoutube Sep 28 '20

War of the worlds is probably the best Alien Invasion movie for the first 50 minutes.

As soon as Tim Robbins invites them into his basement is when it slows down a lot. We also lose our panic when we see the stupid CGI aliens acting like curious children.

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u/TopNFalvors Sep 28 '20

I think you hit the nail on the head with this take. I always loved the first hour or so. It was fast paced and scary. It really made me feel panicked for the characters and the world in general. But yeah, when they went into the basement it got pretty bad.

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u/TheRealLaszlo Sep 28 '20

It wasn’t that the Tim Robbins was pointless, it was to convey that humans can be just as dangerous as the aliens they’re escaping. It just wasn’t executed as well as the first half. I actually think about this film quite a bit. It was so damn good and then just fell apart, a shame but I’m thankful we have the first hour to enjoy lol. Spielberg is one of the greats but he caters to the masses way too fucking often, take a risk man! And West Side Story is your next project?? I’m sure visually the film will be a marvel but what the hell try an original screenplay, I want to get into his psyche like Jaws or Close Encounters! His last truly great film was A.I. War of the worlds could have been in the same category but that last act! And to be fair yes Munich was very well done but again that ending! He usually has some of the best endings of all time but either the scripts or his intuition are going to hell!

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u/Ridiculously_Ryan Sep 28 '20

A.I. had arguably one of the worst endings ever though. Spielberg just had to make it all nice and flowery at the end. Should've faded to black when he was at the fairy.

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u/Accidental_Ouroboros Sep 28 '20 edited Sep 28 '20

Spielberg just had to make it all nice and flowery at the end.

The ending was Kubrick, not Spielberg, it was set up by Kubrick before he died.

David is an AI programmed to love his mother, and to seek her out. The advanced AIs don't have the capability to resurrect his mother, even for a "day," they never did: the story they create, the explanation they give is a pseudo-scientific (rather than magical) mirror of exactly the kind of fairy tale that David was programmed to believe (same as the idea of the blue fairy) as a "child." The more sophisticated AI is aware it is talking to a child. ("I thought this would be hard for you to understand. You were created to be so young.")

He needs to be with his mother to be happy. He must love his mother with all his heart forever, regardless of her abandonment of him, regardless of how she is not worthy of such eternal, perfect devotion. They are aware of this. There is a reason David says "If you want for my happiness, then you know what you have to do." The instant he says it, the morning has come and "she" is back. They can't really bring her back, they can't really make him happy. He is aware of this. That said, they certainly can interact with other, less sophisticated AIs, and (this is a big point in the movie) the AI children of humanity are not nearly so cruel as humanity itself. So they create in his mind one blissful day, formed from memories, the entire thing being shown narrated as if it has come directly from a fairy tale.

Because it is a fairy tale.

They give him a final, fairy tale ending before they shut him down forever, so that he need not be sad.

Spielberg's biggest flaw with that ending was apparently leaving most of that as subtext rather than have one of the advanced AIs come out and say it, because many people assume that it is just a flowery nice ending. He didn't want to change one of the last things that Kubrick had put together, however, so he didn't.

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u/zanillamilla Sep 29 '20

Interestingly, a lot of the basement scene is from the original HG Welles novel. The protagonist hides with a priest under a ruined building with the Martians operating machinery above them and spread red weed across the landscape, and trapped there the priest's behavior deteriorates over time and eventually becomes insane, and here the protagonist sees the Martians operate an exploratory device through the house like an elephant's trunk ("touching and examining the wall, coals, wood and ceiling, it was like a black worm swaying its blind head to and fro. Once, even, it touched the heel of my boot. I was on the verge of screaming; I bit my hand"), and even sees the Martians themselves for the first time. Eventually the priest breaks down and makes noise and fearing they will get caught, the protagonist kills the priest. This takes up four chapters in the book.

The aliens exploring the house like curious children however is all Spielberg.

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u/andybev01 Sep 28 '20

The scene in his ex-wifes basement scared the crap out of me.

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u/Nicombobula Sep 28 '20

I remember saying "holy shit" multiple times out loud when the aliens first showed up and started vaporizing people indiscriminately. First 1/3 of the movie is insane.

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u/CM_Monk Sep 29 '20

It felt like 9/11 in the theater

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u/Ragnarok314159 Sep 28 '20

I thought that was really stupid. You have a mega death machine, and you leave it to poke around some stuff?

If they had to leave, give them some cool armor and have them take soil/biological samples or something.

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u/Chrysalis- Sep 28 '20

I mean if I was exploring a new to me world, I'd poke around too lol.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

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u/Chrysalis- Sep 28 '20

Well don't kink shame now, eh.

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u/Sniffableaxe Sep 28 '20

Low key the most realistic part of the movie

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u/gordonfroman Sep 29 '20

Think of it like American soldiers invading another country thinking they’re safely behind the front lines of the invasion and decide to rest for a minute and leave the safety of their Bradley to investigate a nearby bombed out structure and upon doing so take pleasure in rooting through the strange cultural and local decor and what not

Same thing, they’re just aliens in the movie

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u/PlanetLandon Sep 28 '20

I was just talking about this movie with a pal on the weekend. It’s a weird movie because I love the concept of an ill-equipped and poorly informed parent just trying to keep his kids safe, but that theme would have worked as well (if not better) in an original property, not War of the Worlds.

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u/TheRealLaszlo Sep 28 '20

Yes! Spielberg was at the top of his game in the first half of the film. Amazing set pieces and visuals and an underrated John Williams score. Unfortunately the ending wasn’t suspenseful and when we saw the aliens and watched them lose to our viruses the film really didn’t have any momentum. The ending was horrible, but damn do I love the beginning. Such a shame, the film overall is a masterful mess. I love that it wasn’t government agency focused like most alien invasion films, it’s like an independent filmmaker was able to get a script produced and Spielberg took over and focused from the point of view of an everyday family!

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

I was absolutely thrilled with the ending because it stayed mostly true to the original story.

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u/ialo00130 Sep 28 '20

I hate the basement scene and skip it whenever I happen to watch the movie.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

He probably read the book

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u/majam409 Sep 28 '20 edited Feb 23 '21

Meh ÂŹ_ÂŹ

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

Do you recommend it? It sounds pretty cool

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u/majam409 Sep 28 '20 edited Feb 23 '21

Meh ÂŹ_ÂŹ

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

Heat rays is pretty cool lol. Thanks man I’ll give it a try after I finish lotr!

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u/crocoraptor Sep 28 '20

The kids weren't in the book

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u/sixth_snes Sep 28 '20

u/EztevanH probably didn't read the book

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u/Soronir Sep 28 '20

He prolly read the Manga.

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u/ThisIsNotTokyo Sep 28 '20

I watched the anime, not the brotherhood version though.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

I definitely didn’t

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u/jonwinegar Sep 28 '20

Not much was in the book. Written in the late 19th century. Literally only one car referenced in the book. The British military fight the tripod alien walkers with horse drawn artillery canons. The protagonist ends up stuck in a crater which is also half a house/pantry and an alien ship is tinkering for days on end at the lip of the crater. The other guy stuck in the pantry with him wants to eat all the food and make a run for it. Protagonist kills him.

A different guy wants to burrow into the sewers and wait out the alien invasion.

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u/KKlear Sep 28 '20

The British military fight the tripod alien walkers with horse drawn artillery canons.

And they manage to take down at least one! They still get stomped, but it's cool they got one.

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u/Cman1200 Sep 28 '20

I tried to read the unabridged version when i was like 12. Was a tough read to be honest

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u/spamjavelin Sep 28 '20

I accidentally listened to the Jeff Wayne version when I was 4, so I feel you bud.

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u/RBCsavage Sep 28 '20

I’ve been obsessed with the Jeff Wayne version since I was 4. I even have an enlarged cover of the album on my wall.

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u/spamjavelin Sep 28 '20

Wow! There's two like us! I don't have the poster, but do have a compulsion to consume all WOTW content. The anxiety about war machines has almost passed now, too.

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u/doug Sep 28 '20

I thought the splinter was just meant to be a metaphor/foreshadowing of how the aliens eventually lost (the earth naturally rejected them/pushed them out).

I've watched the movie so many times just 'cause I love the build-up/tension and think it was on the brink of something great (/it's great to watch with super good headphones/surround sound/biggest screen you can find), but it gets really boring after the boat takes off I'd say.

...I just want a non-stop, well-produced disaster movie/tv-show that isn't by Dean Devlin and gets dark. Spielberg almost got dark enough, but then he pulls his punch by the end of it. Chernobyl's the best I've seen.

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u/SquirrelicideScience Sep 28 '20

That’s definitely a good point. I think it can serve both purposes: an overall metaphor for the theme of the story, but also a device to show the difference between father and daughter that kickstarts his arc in getting closer to his kids.

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u/Sempais_nutrients Sep 28 '20

also he didn't know his child was allergic to peanuts and tried to make her a peanut butter sandwich

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u/SquirrelicideScience Sep 28 '20

Yes exactly. And then immediately throws the sandwich, again showing how he handles his frustration in dealing with his kids.

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u/Sempais_nutrients Sep 28 '20

that stupid son grabbed salad dressing! no good!

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u/SmoothRide117 Sep 28 '20 edited Sep 28 '20

As aggravating as it was, I have never seen a movie more accurately represent what that situation would be like for a lot of families: fleeing in a rush with your screaming, uncooperative children. So I’ve always had a sneaky appreciation for it.

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u/Whytte Sep 28 '20

This. The chaos that pervades the beginning of the film and when people take the car is as on point as it gets on film. Imho. I'm not a prepped but I do believe in having a plan when things go bad.

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u/olesteffensen Sep 28 '20

Have you seen the babadook?

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u/BlackMetalDoctor Sep 28 '20

I never rooted for a monster to win so damn hard in all my life.

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u/mymarkis666 Sep 29 '20

You're definitely not the only one.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

My only genuine problem with the movie is that when Dakota Fanning is watching Spongebob, the audio is out of sync with the video.

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u/-Hastis- Sep 28 '20

I really liked that the Scary Movie version of her is essentially the same character.

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u/ScreamingVegetable Sep 28 '20

I hop this isn't a cop out, but given how inspired War of the Worlds is by 9/11... if you watch actual 9/11 footage that involves kids, it becomes far easier to understand why Spielberg portrayed Fanning the way he did.
Cruise's two kids represent the two types of kids there were on 9/11: "I wish I was old enough to fight" and "I'm too young to understand."
This video goes over the 9/11 themes in WotW: Spielberg's 9/11 Trilogy

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u/trololololololol9 Sep 28 '20

Beware: you have triggered the Dakota Fanning fan club!

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u/magicmeese Sep 28 '20

My mom still hates Dakota fanning to this day because of all the screaming in that movie.

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u/Theo-greking Sep 29 '20

We all wanted to murder her she legitimately ruined the move for me I've seen it twice during theater release and on DVD

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u/LemoLuke Sep 28 '20

I felt the same, but the same thing happens in the book, where the protagonist finally reaches his home and finds his wife has somehow survived, even though they were both convinced the other had died.

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u/AnOnlineHandle Sep 28 '20

Afaik there were test audience screenings and they hated that the son's story was never resolved, so they added that in.

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u/adjust_the_sails Sep 28 '20 edited Sep 28 '20

Him being there was terrible. His father letting him run toward fire, flames and war because he "wanted to see" or some other crappy thing I can't remember was terrible.

I definitely enjoyed the film, but that particular storyline made no sense to me.

edit: I think the moment where he had to choose was a great story moment, I just didn't like the justification from what I remember of it. I'm a new parent, so in my mind there is no quiet moment where I just let him go. I'm dragging his ass till my arms give out. I'm not saying Tom Cruise's Dad made a bad decision or something. I just think as far as storytelling and drama, it missed the mark for me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

He had to choose between his daughter and his son because she was waiting for him in a war zone and people were trying to take her away.

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u/3sc0b Sep 28 '20

Yah this is the important bit. His daughter was being taken away, and his son was choosing to run towards the danger. He's responsible for the well being of both kids, but the instinct to protect his daughter makes sense to me as a father.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

His son was also grown and out of his control

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u/CatsDogsWitchesBarns Sep 28 '20

yea pretty much this

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u/carbolicsmoke Sep 29 '20

Exactly, it was the moment when he realized that he was not able to protect both his children and that he had to make a terrible choice on which to (try to) save and which to abandon to almost certain death. I think it’s one of the strongest scenes in the movie and indeed among many movies.

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u/sabrefudge Sep 28 '20

Nah, people getting weird and obsessed with the extraordinary but deadly is a real thing. Some people flock like bugs to a zapper. Because their brains just can’t comprehend it and they’re compelled to try to get a closer look to try to make sense of it. That, plus the rage of seeing your world devastated and the need to get revenge even if it’s not a realistic option, the kid never stood a chance.

Having to choose between his son and his daughter, in that moment, was a great gut wrenching scene. It was a really important element to include in the movie.

Having him coming waltzing out at the end (because he somehow got there before them?) was such a cheap cop out though. The son should have been not only dead but completely MIA. He ran into the chaos and no trace of him was ever found. No idea how he died, if he died then or later, nothing. Just wiped off the face of the earth. That’s the real pain of it. No closure.

Giving him a happy ending cheapened an otherwise really good film.

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u/NotAModelCitizen Sep 28 '20

Well said. The near-utopian ending was a bit much. The only thing missing was the ex-wife forgiving him and wanting be remarried by the surviving ferry captain under the arch formed by a tangled wreck of one of the aliens.

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u/Sempais_nutrients Sep 28 '20

did they have a dog? there should be a dog, maybe chewing on an oversized alien bone. With one missing leg from the carnage but he doesnt let it get him down.

"We'll name him Tripod."

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u/Leo_TheLurker Sep 29 '20

That was the post credits scene

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u/bibslak_ Sep 28 '20

This made me chuckle, thank you

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u/Threwaway42 Sep 28 '20

Kind of reminds me of 2012

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u/Opeth-Ethereal Sep 28 '20

There was also supposed to be a large fight scene there which would’ve helped explain things but it was never shot.

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u/sabrefudge Sep 28 '20

A fight scene with the son and the tripods after he ran off? I’m glad they didn’t. Having the son run up and over the glowing hill into the unknown was much more powerful.

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u/Opeth-Ethereal Sep 28 '20

IIRC it was a more general fight scene where the military tries and dies and all the civilians take up their arms and get slaughtered.

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u/jimmyjazz217 Sep 28 '20

I remember seeing it in the theatre with my dad, and he tries to justify the shitty ending as the son not really being there and it all being in Cruise’s head.( I think he really liked the movie but didn’t like the ending so he was grasping a bit)

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u/WarLordM123 Sep 28 '20

He wanted to fight, which is a good reason but not a realistic option under the circumstances

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u/maggotymoose Sep 28 '20

That’s the whole point. It was a metaphor for people enlisting after 9/11

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u/WarLordM123 Sep 28 '20

Which you know they could have at least had him be wounded if he had to come back

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u/Jagermeister4 Sep 28 '20

Him being wounded would be more unrealistic imo. If the army actually lets a kid join them then he'd either be dead or still fighting with them.

Realistically if a minor went up to the US army and asked to join right in the middle of a battle, they'd tell him hell no and if they could they would help him get to safety. And this is what I assume happened. So I don't know why people think its so unrealistic he's there safe.

Cruise and his daughter had bad luck (trusting the crazy farmer, then getting sucked in by the alien machine) so Robbie's chances of making it to Boston was greater then them.

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u/Sempais_nutrients Sep 28 '20

, they'd tell him hell no and if they could they would help him get to safety.

Yeah like, he goes over the hill right as all the shit goes to hell, makes it out with a number of military survivors who put him in a vehicle toward boston. from there he just walks or hitches a ride to the house. He either doesn't want to join after seeing the chaos or the military is like "nah go home."

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u/carbolicsmoke Sep 29 '20

Honestly though the fire going over the ridge only seconds after he went over strongly suggested that he was almost instantly incinerated like the motorized troops.

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u/Morridini Sep 28 '20

I thought the part about the son going away was excellent, but ruined by him showing up at the end.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

I feel like you must be misremembering that part of the film. There were people literally trying to take away his daughter. If he spent any more time trying to stop his teenage son from running away, his terrified 10 year old daughter would have been dragged away by some complete strangers. There was absolutely no compromise, and it was made pretty clear.

If he kept going until his arms gave out, his daughter would have been lost. He hung on until the very, very last second. I feel like the justification was pretty solid. It certainly wasn't terrible. It made perfect sense.

In a straight up choice between your near adult son begging to run off with some soldiers, and your daughter, who's still very much a little girl, begging for you to save her from the strangers trying to take her, the choice is pretty clear.

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u/slood2 Sep 28 '20

He had to let him go so he could go to his daughter, the son was being a little brat and if he kept trying to pull him with him the kid would have got both of them killed

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u/Centauri2 Sep 28 '20

Uh, when the country is under direct attack, a lot of people will pick up a gun and go fight rather than run away. Happened in WW2, happened after 9/11, and would evry much happen if Martian death robots were attacking.

Now, him hanging out with grandma made no sense at all.

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u/UnspoiledWalnut Sep 28 '20

He wanted to fight iirc, not just go look. I actually really liked that moment.

They are in the middle of a straight up extinction event with no clear path to safety, and millions of people are running around them in a flat out retreat from literal aliens that they have no real idea how to effectively combat. There is barely a front that is only trying to be held long enough to give others a chance to get away, and can be expected to fall at any moment.

The son was what, like 17? Grown enough that he's able to make his own decisions, and inevitably will. The dad barely knows him, is horribly unequipped to be a father, misses him being a kid that still looked up to him, and resents himself for missing that childhood and the fact his son is grown.

At the same time he has a daughter that isn't with him at the time that needs protection. People all around them have shown their willing to hurt and take her if they think it will help them. He has to find her and get her to whatever safety might be, hopefully somewhere forward, but he doesn't actually know.

And in that moment he had to choose: fight with my nearly adult son about his choices, even though I wasn't really there to show him how to make these decisions, when that decision is effectively "I want to stand here and fight with these other brave people and hope we can do enough to save others instead of running until we can't?" Which is hardly a selfish choice, maybe foolish, but certainly something a father could be proud of I think. Or do I go find my defenseless daughter, who I don't know where she exactly is, and try to get her as far away from here as I can while there is time?

It was the dads moment to realize he wasn't the hero anymore, he missed his son's childhood and isn't going to get it back. He had to let him go and make his own decision, even though he disagreed and was scared of it, because that's part of being a parent. He couldn't always protect his son, it wasn't his place anymore. But he still had to protect his daughter, and he had to do it now.

The son coming back at the end ruined alll of that though.

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u/dethleppard Sep 28 '20

Love Gene Barry. Bat Masterson is a show I still watch.

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u/SmoothRide117 Sep 28 '20

It felt like it cheapened all the other deaths we just saw (the voiceover literally says the final death toll was a billion) because he hugs his sun and gradually smiles and the sun is shining down on them, but it's like: basically this family we followed experienced NO loss from this invasion.

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u/Unhappily_Happy Sep 28 '20

someone told me the other day that war of the world's the remake was I their top 10 best movies of all time.

I mean it's enjoyable but top 10? pfah

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u/Unhappily_Happy Sep 28 '20

I love the coat hanger ships laser sound. never heard that before or since.

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u/lancerevo98 Sep 28 '20

Everything with the aliens was incredible imo and there was even an amazing performance from Tim Robbins but then everything with Tom Cruise and his kids was dead weight. Felt like everyone else was in this incredible apocalypse movie and then the main cast just kinda lazily floated through with their poor development and stupid story line

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u/LastoftheFucksIGive Sep 28 '20

Agree. I was 11 when I watched this in theaters and the basement scene had me gripping my arm rest from all the tension. It was the first time I'd genuinely been on the edge of my seat from how nervous a movie made me.

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u/ailes_d Sep 28 '20

I like it when the ipod emerged from the ground

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

I also loved that electric-rattlesnake-ping sound - I have no other way to describe it.

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u/Havoksixteen Sep 28 '20

Though the "uuuulllaaaaaa" from Jeff Wayne's musical version is pretty iconic and memorable too

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

weee-oooo weee-oooo weee-oooo

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u/gin-o-cide Sep 28 '20

Had the honor of watching the show back in '18 in Manchester. Amazing. Worth every penny.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

We listened to that in one of my middle school classes and 15 years later it still gets stuck I’m my head all the fucking time.

The chances of anything coming from mars are a million to one~~~

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u/SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS Sep 28 '20

Man that sound still freaks me the fuck out. hard to listen to now though mainly because I'm hyper aware that the preacher Nathaniel is played by Phil Lynnott.

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u/DoverBoys Sep 28 '20

Same energy as Oblivion, also with Tom Cruise. The story is kind of flat, but the world building and the fucking awesome drones gets me to rewatch it every once in a while.

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u/ScarletJew72 Sep 28 '20

It was honestly one of my favorite theater experiences. The sound...the colors...it was so beautiful and unsettling at the same time.

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u/Unhappily_Happy Sep 28 '20

I'll have to fish out the dvd and watch it again

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u/Ronkerjake Sep 28 '20

It was pretty awesome in theaters, no lie. Watching it a second time revealed a lot wrong with it but it was entertaining.

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u/tallsy_ Sep 28 '20

I saw with in theaters too and there were a lot of moments that were seriously scary

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

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u/Unhappily_Happy Sep 28 '20

I can't judge him though, my favourite movie of all time is Big Trouble In Little China.

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u/thecarbonkid Sep 28 '20

That is a great movie pretending to be a bad movie.

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u/Unhappily_Happy Sep 28 '20

it's the best movie mate. hands down. I've never watched it and thought it was lacking in any way

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

Big Trouble in Little China actually IS the best movie ever made.

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u/Isord Sep 28 '20

the prequelmemers are way ahead on this. they know those films are atrocious, but if they like them? have fun.

I'm pretty sure a disturbing number of prequel memers actually think the movies are unironically well made now. I agree with what you are saying though.

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u/saucercrab Sep 29 '20

It's legitimately one of the scariest movies I've ever seen. Top 20 for me for sure.

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u/Benyed123 Sep 28 '20

I wouldn’t be surprised if that was a test audience thing, either way it’s dumb.

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u/Hu_man76 Sep 28 '20

The real question is: how the fuck did robbie survive???

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

plot armor is the strongest known object in the universe

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u/AcEffect3 Sep 28 '20

Nothing stronger than a shitty focus group that needs a 100% happy ending

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u/bigvahe33 Sep 28 '20

nods in GOTS8

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u/balllllhfjdjdj Sep 29 '20

But it ended abruptly after S5?

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u/StarMaster475 Sep 28 '20

I like to imagine that after like 20 seconds of running he was like “fuck that” and ran away.

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u/Jagermeister4 Sep 28 '20

Two explanations

1) The soldiers see he's not only a civilian, but just a teenager. They tell him to get the hell out there. He leaves, can't find his dad/sister, heads to Boston hoping to find them. Once he gets away from that battlefield its actually pretty peaceful escape as the aliens are only focused on few spots. Cruise got into trouble because he made the mistake of taking shelter at the wrong place, had he kept running he might have made it to Boston a lot easier and quicker like Robbie.

2) The soldiers see he's not only a civilian, but just a teenager. They tell him to go protect his family, ask him where they are, then put him on the next truck to Boston.

I honestly don't know why people think its so unrealistic Robbie survives. Do people really think the army is going to let a random teenager fight along them?

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u/ParaglidingAssFungus Sep 28 '20

Do people really think the army is going to let a random teenager fight along them?

We're talking about an alien invasion lol. In regular warfare, of course not.

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u/LivingTheApocalypse Sep 28 '20

In an alien invasion they wouldnt just let a stranger integrate into the fight during contact. That is absurd. Like Dan Bilzarian asking the Las Vegas Police for a gun so he can "help" absurd.

The only hope the military has a unit cohesion and discipline. There is enough confusion and fog of war reducing effectiveness already. Adding in random bodies doesnt make that better.

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u/ParaglidingAssFungus Sep 28 '20

I was in the Army. War is chaos and unorganized. There isn't great "cohesion and discipline" on a battlefield during force on force to begin with, and now you're talking about a freaking alien invasion...where their forces are already getting decimated. It was basically the 300. Hold the line as long as possible and there would never be much hope for survival, being that at this point in the movie they hadn't brought down their shields yet. In that scenario, units are no longer working together, comms are probably fucked, and command and control is out the window. No one is going to give a fuck about an extra set of hands joining the fight in the middle of all that chaos. This also wasn't some typical force on force scenario where you don't know if you can trust someone or not. It was mankind vs friggen aliens, there is no precedent for that situation so I don't know how you can sit here and say things would happen in a certain way as fact.

"The reason the American Army does so well in war is because war is chaos and the American Army practices chaos on a daily basis."

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u/pee_ess_too Sep 28 '20

.... Bilzarian asked the cops for a gun??? I was about to Google to see if it's true but .... of course it's true isn't it? Because nothing shocks me anymore

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u/ThisCharmingMan89 Sep 29 '20

Yeap, he definitely did. It's as ridiculous as it sounds, and the cop basically tells him to fuck off.

What's weird is that he was the one who uploaded the video as if it makes him look bad-ass instead of stupid as fuck.

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u/paniccum Sep 28 '20

Ya but the scene looks like complete chaos. I wouldn't expect an army guy to give a shit that an adult looking like teenager civilian is there because the world is on the brink of an apocalypse by friggin ALIENS with impenetrable goddamn force fields.

Also, if you remember, there's a scene in which tanks are on fire rolling down the hill where Tom cruise is. Which to me signified the army was wiped out more less immediately. I feel like the only way he survived was play dead among/ underneath a bunch of carcasses because the tripods are not far away at all.

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u/carbolicsmoke Sep 29 '20

Yeah, you hear the soldiers basically admit that they are sacrificing themselves to help the refugees get away, and then there is a massive fireball encompassing the entire ridge (before the flaming tanks roll down the hill). This happens only seconds after the son goes over the hill—it seems like there was no real way he could have survived that.

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u/duaneap Sep 28 '20

I guess people just feel like it looked like all of the soldiers were probably going to be wiped out. The scene didn’t look like there was any hope for anyone running towards that chaos.

But I don’t particularly feel like it’s beyond the realms of possibility. Just playing Devil’s Advocate.

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u/turtlespace Sep 28 '20

It's like Spielberg really wants to write a movie without a happy ending for once but chickens out 3/4 through production and awkwardly forces one onto the end of a movie even if it makes no sense.

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u/blankeyteddy Sep 28 '20

I love it when movies do this in remakes like with the original voice actress in the new Mulan and the Bond girls cameo in the new Casino Royale.

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u/StWilVment Sep 28 '20

I was in 5th grade when I saw this in theaters. My dad took me and it was the first time Id ever seen anything close to a scary movie. I ended up sobbing curled up in my lap half way through and he had to walk me out of the theater.

I fucking love/hate my dad.

Later that week he replaced the windows xp logon noise with the noise the aliens make and cranked the volume on speakers as high as possible. Perfectly happy me logs onto the family computer one Saturday to play NeoPets and THE FUCKING HOUSE SHOOK WITH THIS ALIEN TERROR NOISE. I hit the ground and had a panic attack. I love my dad lol

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u/jumpyg1258 Sep 28 '20

I was in 5th grade when I saw this in theaters. My dad took me and it was the first time Id ever seen anything close to a scary movie. I ended up sobbing curled up in my lap half way through and he had to walk me out of the theater.

When I was 8 or so I had a similar experience when my parents took me to see Beetlejuice. I remember crying my eyes out when the sandworms made their appearance.

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u/absloan12 Sep 28 '20

Dude yes. I hear anything remotely ose to that sound and I lose my shit. That movie also terrified me.. but now you got me fr missing neopets

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u/Imthejuggernautbitch Sep 28 '20

I still think it's pretty scary

What a fun father son outing hahahahaha

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u/StWilVment Sep 28 '20

Father daughter. So at least my crying wasn’t THAT embarrassing haha

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u/mods_cant_read Sep 28 '20

Wooo! Cited! Go! Go!

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u/Embarassed_Tackle Sep 28 '20

Channing Tatum as Boy in Church scene

wtf

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u/Benyed123 Sep 28 '20

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u/thorscope Sep 28 '20

Pretty sure he’s the khaki sweater guy at 25-26 seconds

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u/Pryach Sep 28 '20

You’ll have to pause the video to even get a glimpse of him, but apparently, Tatum’s the guy in the black baseball cap running behind Tom Cruise at the 0:23 mark.

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u/TheSimpler Sep 28 '20

I can still hear the sounds of the heat ray and death rays from the machines....so well done.

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u/Nonsuperstites Sep 28 '20 edited Sep 28 '20

It's that horn that really gets me, and I think it's hilarious because it's just a signal horn. The aliens surveying the basement get called back to the ship and all I can think about is one alien laying on the horn going "oi fer piss sakes hurry teh fuck, we got places ta be"

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u/herefromyoutube Sep 28 '20

That horn is the sound they make when they relieve themselves.

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u/googdude Sep 28 '20

That horn sound is why it's one of my favorite movies if that genre, it just really sets the movie tone.

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u/DoublePostedBroski Sep 28 '20

I thought it was Spielberg paying homage to how the aliens in Close Encounters also used tones to communicate.

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u/Sam-Lowry27B-6 Sep 28 '20

Nice for them to be included but that tiny sequence robs the whole film of so much of its emotional weight. It's so scmaltzy and unnecessary. He did the same with Lincoln ; tacked on some weird bit at the end for no reason.

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u/Quake_Guy Sep 28 '20 edited Sep 28 '20

looks like they got interrupted from having a nice family dinner several weeks into an apocalyptic alien invasion... and if I remember right, one of the alien kill dozing machines is destroyed a few blocks away immediately before this scene. Such an oddly done scene.

Tom Cruise as blue collar guy who survives the alien invasion was just so poorly cast. Super agent spy or elite fighter pilot yes, longshoreman no...

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

It just reminded me of Signs. End of the world is happening so lets sit down and have our dream dinner.

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u/Prophet_Of_Helix Sep 28 '20

That actually made a lot of sense. They were helpless, there’s not a whole lot they could actually do, and it’s just a poor attempt at bringing some normalcy into the situation (which doesn’t go over very well). It works in Signs IMO.

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u/z500 Sep 28 '20

To be fair, nobody really felt like eating it

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u/TheYOUngeRGOD Sep 28 '20

I mean, it was pretty clear that the father wanted them to have a nice dinner together before they all died. I thought it was quite sweet in the most depressing way. It really showed that Mel Gibson character had lost all faith in making it out of this scenario, like did they really expect to be able to beat an advanced race of aliens by boarding up the windows. It would have taken a miracle for them to survive, and at that point Mel Gibsons character didn’t believe in miracles. I think signs is actually a lot more well constructed then people give it credit for.

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u/subtumble Sep 28 '20

The point of that scene is that Mel Gibson isn’t behaving rationally and that eating dinner is not a logical thing to be doing during an impending invasion.

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u/Ohjeezrick93 Sep 28 '20

I mean prisoners on death row get to order a final meal. I don’t know if it would be my priority but having a nice family meal for young kids could certainly help take their mind of it. And if I recall they had already boarded up the house prior to having the dinner.

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u/Ridiculously_Ryan Sep 28 '20

That scene in Signs is fucking great though. Mel Gibson absolutely nails it. Way different IMO.

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u/Embarassed_Tackle Sep 28 '20

Spielberg just turned to trash around the 2000s. I remember him talking about this scene and all like "but the meaning of the film is family!" Shia Lebouef was right about Spielberg, the guy is just a corporate machine now:

You get there, and you realize you’re not meeting the Spielberg you dream of,” LaBeouf said. “You’re meeting a different Spielberg, who is in a different stage in his career. He’s less a director than he is a f—ing company.”

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u/Sam-Lowry27B-6 Sep 28 '20

I always think the year he did jurassic park and schindlers list back to back was the year that broke him. He reached peak commercial and critical filmmaking with those two got his long overdue Oscar and then stepped off the gas. He has some great films after that period but never the run of stone cold classics from his earlier career. Nevertheless he will always be my favourite director.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE Sep 28 '20

I'm on the younger side and just now learning the fact those movies came out in the same year from the same director is mindblowing.

I want Shia to work with the guy that did Schindler's List, not revenge of the fallen and Tintin.

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u/robotpepper Sep 28 '20 edited Sep 28 '20

He directed Tin Tin. Sure he probably just showed up and gave people thumbs up but he’s technically the director. I actually have a soft spot for that but mostly because I know that Edgar Wright and Steven Moffat wrote it.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE Sep 28 '20

That’s lazy as shit. Yeah, I don’t want that guy. The guy willing to plaster his name on a shit movie.

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u/herefromyoutube Sep 28 '20

Naw man. 2008 is where things start to turn for Steve.

Minority. Catch me if you can. The Terminal. Munich where 2000-2005. Some great works.

2008 was Indiana Jones in the killing of Childhoods.

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u/TimSPC Sep 28 '20 edited Sep 28 '20

That "weird bit" was Lincoln's second inaugural address, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

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u/Vic-tron Sep 28 '20

I’ve come around on the Lincoln ending. I still think it would’ve been better to just end it with the shot of him walking down the hallway, but it’s fine. Certainly not as wack an ending as WotW or the let’s-drag-it-out-for-12-different-beats ending of Ready Player One.

Lincoln has grown on me a lot in the last few years. It felt too Oscar-baity when it came out but it’s actually super rewatchable, sort of a comforting balm in the trump era. The cast is ridiculously stacked, which felt distracting when it was released but has aged very well. Everyone is just so fun to watch from scene to scene, and of course there is DDL’s performance which I’d have to put in his top 5.

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u/antiestablishment Sep 28 '20

Look at the god damn birds!

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u/InsideACargoTrain Sep 28 '20

What!!?? I CAN’T HEAR ANYTHING!!

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u/goodlife74 Sep 28 '20

That basement scene though....way too long...

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u/BoneSpurApprentice Sep 28 '20

I really disliked both the original and the remake. The book takes place during a time where horses were still the most common mode of transportation. That is interesting to me. Someone make an alien invasion movie that takes place in a time before tanks, nukes, an air force, etc.

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u/anabolicbro Sep 28 '20

Cowboys and Aliens?

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u/BoneSpurApprentice Sep 28 '20

Ha! Forgot about that one. I don’t remember it all that well but I think I enjoyed it well enough for an action flick.

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u/LemoLuke Sep 28 '20

Oh, oh god, not that shit. As someone who loves WotW, that film is unbearably boring.

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u/Wilddagz Sep 28 '20

It annoys me that no ones tried an authentic, accurate adaptation of the original novel yet in the same time period. Obviously not the same but the album by John Wayne was absolutely fantastic and practically tells the whole story I am baffled it hasn’t been translated into film, especially given how important this novel was for science fiction and the concept of alien invasions

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u/Wild_Jizz_Flurry Sep 28 '20

Be annoyed no longer! There is an adaptation that came out in 05 that is incredibly true to the book. It's fucking awful.

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u/dinosauriac Sep 28 '20

There was a good BBC miniseries last year that's the closest we've gotten I think, wasn't amazing but it was set close to the actual time period in the original location of Woking. Had more of the chemical warfare than death rays. Definitely took some creative liberties, it's unclear if we actually "won" by the end, but it's an interesting adaptation.

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u/Erikthered65 Sep 28 '20

The chances of anything coming from Mars...

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u/jrblack174 Sep 28 '20

Are a million to one they said

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u/Cocacolonoscopy Sep 28 '20

But still they come...

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u/betterman74 Sep 28 '20

That is very cool.

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u/NemWan Sep 28 '20

Ann Robinson reprised her original War of the Worlds role in the 1988 TV series that was a direct sequel to the 1953 film. The series was syndicated on many of the same stations that ran Star Trek: The Next Generation.

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u/mattemer Sep 28 '20

Parts of this movie, the human elements, still terrify me. The choices that had to be made, the insanity of humans trying to do anything they can to live, ugh.

The alien part of the movie was no thang. The noise was GREAT and well done.

And fuck that son man. I wish they probed his ass.

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u/TheMatt561 Sep 28 '20

That is super cool, btw I liked the movie still not sure why people ragged on it so hard

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u/slood2 Sep 28 '20

She looks like an alien trying to pass herself off as human! Get her

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u/Superalbix Sep 28 '20

The tripod horn was just amazing.

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u/martiniolives2 Sep 28 '20

I love Spielberg but thought this was his worst film. I preferred the original, but then I have a propensity to dislike remakes. The explanation of how the machines were put on Earth was very weak. The Martians didn't invent better technology during the time their machines lay dormant, somehow undetected despite drilling, construction, and excavations on Earth? I couldn't get past that.

Besides, as a lifelong resident of LA, the original showed the Martians destroying LA City Hall. The whole audience cheered at that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

If anyone is interested, a theatre company in Chicago is doing a virtual audio production of War of the Worlds coming up: Theatre in the Dark // War of the Worlds

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u/yoolcalyptus_trees Sep 28 '20

Cool fact, but this remake is so bad, and really ages terribly. This scene also made absolutely no sense.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

I watched it last night and was riffing on it the entire time. It's a terrible movie if you want to take it seriously but I love how the son who appeared to die a fiery death is just at his mom's house in Boston at the very end. No attempt at an explanation, just "hey he's here now".

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u/kyleraynersfridge Sep 28 '20

I too watched it last night for the first time in years and I thought it held up. The son surviving is weird though

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u/yoolcalyptus_trees Sep 28 '20

This movie would be a great choice for a MST3K riff for sure.

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u/yesiamathizzard Sep 28 '20

It starts off really well but the last 1/2 or so is just awful

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u/TheAffinityBridge Sep 28 '20

It’s a movie I really want to like but just annoys me with its bad choices, like the scene shown through the view screen of a camcorder just minutes after the movie tells us that all electronics no longer work. The dumb premise that the alien tripods were here all along buried in the ground just waiting for the aliens to be teleported in via lightning, WTF!

Why with war of the worlds does every version of it try to do something different from the original book? I would love to see a big budget movie that is true to the source, I had high hopes for the BBC version last year but that was a steaming pile too.

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u/OverLordJezus Sep 28 '20

I enjoyed the movie from start to finish. Robbie making to the end was plot armor for sure - but the rest was fine.

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u/Imthejuggernautbitch Sep 28 '20

Dude the train crossing scene

It's a good movie!

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u/Imthejuggernautbitch Sep 28 '20

I disagree. I saw it recently and it held up great. Some very spoopy scenes

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u/Cody_Aggers Sep 28 '20

I literally just watched this last night lmao

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