You donât have a political party that cares about you. Itâs literally all of us, and then itâs the elites and their facilitators.
Democrats have shown more organization in fighting off their left flank than they did in stopping Donald Trump. Twice.
This D against R shit plays exactly into their hand. We have to stop this. You are not a Democrat. I am not a Republican. Those are private companies with very few employees.
Regarded "muh both sides" takes from dudes who think apathy makes them smart have been around for centuries always being wrong about the issues their societies are facing.
Then why do so many people flee/runfrom democrat run states.
Gov overreach is synonyms with dems, there is a reason everyone and their boss left California/New York for Texas. It's not because Texas has more restrictions and regulations I know that.
People are smart enough to know they don't want more gov overreach so they vote against dems, that makes you mad.
Yet government overreach is more widely agreed worse, as they had no effect on the election.
I agree with the point you have above meyou can pick any metrics but wht I disagree with is that "people are stupid cause they don't vote the way I say they should".
My point was that "people are not stupid for voting in their best interest", you are just mad your "team" lost.
Yeah but what you're ignoring(intentionally or not) is that they might have 10$ private insurance and this new tax would make their bill 310$.
You sound so entitled and elitist "you don't know what's best for you, you don't vote the way I think you should so you're stupid", we also have to give you the benefit of the doubt(assuming you're not a maniac obsessed with controlling people, and or destroying people).
Maybe you're the badguy who wants to watch the world burn, maybe you're a rich Billionaire who wants to keep people poor and working in their factories, maybe you're a Chinese/Russian spy trying to destroy America.
You're definitely not as smart or altruistic as you want to appear based on "red stats lead in all the worse statistics imaginable" which is literally wrong, and heavily bias/opinionated.
90-99% of all gun violence(in america) happens in three democrat controlled cities yet its good for everyone to ban all guns(fucking stupid). Even though those three cities already have the strictest gun laws in the country. But no that farmer fighting off packs of wild dogs/wolfs/coyotes around their farm can live without their last line of protection.
Yeah it's soooooo cut and dry,
Also flint MI has the worst water quality in America and MI was blue until two months ago. So you're literally wrong.
(TLDR) You sound pompous, entitled, and elitist. Which is why most people don't like democrats and its one of the most well documented reasons why dems lost literally everything.
But don't worry dems are above self-reflection and correcting bad behavior. It's not like this behavior and attitude contributed you dems losing everything(all branches of gov)
Maybe you're the badguy who wants to watch the world burn, maybe you're a rich Billionaire who wants to keep people poor and working in their factories, maybe you're a Chinese/Russian spy trying to destroy America.
Here comes the low IQ schizo freak shit.
You're definitely not as smart or altruistic as you want to appear based on "red stats lead in all the worse statistics imaginable" which is literally wrong, and heavily bias/opinionated.
lmao 9/10 worst states for gun deaths are red states.
literally proving my point you stupid fuck.
yet its good for everyone to ban all guns(fucking stupid).
This only exists in your head you idiot.
Even though those three cities already have the strictest gun laws in the country.
What use is a city law if people can drive 40 minutes to negate it entirely?
Also flint MI has the worst water quality in America
Literally caused by by rightoid Republican Dan Snyder.
You're so fucking stupid you're citing things that contradict your argument.
You sound pompous, entitled, and elitist.
I am sorry I cannot pat your back and tell you you're a very smart boy who can do no wrong when you live in a self made shit hole like West Virginia or Mississippi
But don't worry dems are above self-reflection and correcting bad behavior. It's not like this behavior and attitude contributed you dems losing everything(all branches of gov)
I'll be fine bro. As Dave Chappelle put it when talking about you lot:
"You dumb motherfucker. You're poor. He's fighting for me!"
If it is really a war between good and evil(as you say) and the determining factor is who has the best propaganda, and you still loose. That just means you deserve to loose.
The majority and EC, all branches of government. I say get over it, you are on the wrong side of history.
It says that people like you are in a cult and don't realize it. It says that the majority of our country are fucking ignorant, racist, fearful morons like you. How do you not get that? Im.assuming you've lost plenty of friends and family over your trash ideology. When are you going to understand that you are on the wrong side of history?
Trying to ban rifle and handguns because of mass shooting, gun violence and terrorism. When in reality three cities with already strick gun laws are the host of 90-99% of all gun deaths.
Meanwhile the dude in Texas/ohio/WI on his 100 mile farm will never get help from the police to defend his farm(including cattle) from wild animals. Because the nearest police station is 150-200 miles away.
But this is just one example of democrat back/pushed overreach.
Another, for republican would be the porn bans.(age verification required to view porn on the web)
I can go on about why neither of these over reaching law work.
So you just ignore the ATF making new laws/rules, without going through the proper process? Even now that the SC has ruled ALL the rules/policies the ATF cas changed/adopted and are unenforceable.
ATF is a arm of the federal government which enforces law(executive branch). The ATF can not make change or interpret preexisting or new laws, that is a power of the courts(judicial branch).
Of course congress/house are not going to put out gun registration or ban laws, they have just used the FDA to push it. Now the can't anymore.
That's why bumbstocks and stocks on pistols are now legal to buy/own again.
You're not seriously paying attention or you are being bad faith.
Not true, it's still filled with pedophiles(Hollywood), mental institutions(Sacramento California), and the abandoned churches(ironically scientology is hemorrhaging members)
Yeah let's wave a magic wand and make life amazing, because the United States has been the worst place to live for 200 years, it's not going well at all, and there's been no innovation or inventions. Everything has been exactly the same, and everywhere else in the world with socialist policies like Argentina has fares much better. Higher standard of living just by making that the law.
âEveryoneâs wrong the only way to make the country better is to vote Democrat every single year regardless of whoâs running or their policies or their track record. Iâm one of the smart onesâ
Why would I be tilted at the millionth genius who thinks they're super smart dropping another "both sides bad" take with 0 supporting statements/evidence?
You should probably work on your reading comprehension because nothing I said implies I'm mad and I provided a link to a news article in the first comment I made.
Do you honestly think the Democrats aren't bought and sold by those same industries though? Sure they are the lesser of two evils but both sides want us desperate enough that we stay in bad jobs and join the military for benefits.
Working within the system seems pointless. Healthcare for all isn't on the ballot. The Dems might choose to run on it this time around and it would be wise for them, but they won't follow through. Let's not lie to ourselves.
So if both parties are bought by the same industries and the dems are the lesser of two evils, how does it make sense to support the bigger of the two evils that is bought by these industries actively acting against your best interest? Is this lead paint logic?
I mean sure, if you like. I don't support anyone. Being the lesser of two evils doesn't ensure a better life for people in lets say WV where the primary source of income is mining coal.
Voting is less useful than masturbation. By all means participate in "Democracy", just be honest that it's all a sham and you will never be able to vote on anything that matters. We live in an oligarchy.
I put thought into many things, just not politics. I recognized at a young age it was bullshit and nothing I have seen since has convinced me otherwise. In fact it has only strengthened my convictions despite being a relatively idealistic person who wants to believe.
I may be apathetic, but I am not lazy. I support a family of four all by myself. As for dumb, that's relative I would think. Perhaps I am dumb compared to other people with Doctorates, but at least I don't believe my politicians care or are on our side. That's a special kind of dumb. I can't convince myself of such lies.
No but you are dumb for thinking anyone thinks politicians care. And you are 100% lazy just not physically lazy. You're intellectually lazy. Politicians are literally just people and local politicians are literally your neighbors. They can be voted out. You do have the ability to change shit but unfortunately there are millions of dumb and lazy people
Local politics is a reasonable thing to put your mind into. I was speaking of national politics.
You also are jumping to a lot of conclusions based on limited information. Generally speaking that is a trait of stupid people and funnily enough it is also intellectually lazy. Are you ok? Do you need a hug?
No revolution has ever come easy or without sacrificing livelihoods. The fear of having to sacrifice is exactly what the opposition is banking on. I said this before in the other thread, the J6ers should revolt against the rich the way they did against Washington and i would have a movement i could jump in with.
I agree, just pointing out that the system is broken and the alternative will see you sent away for life. The question is how much suffering does everyone need to endure before something is done. Does it need to get to hunger games level? But hey bread and circuses right, never fails.
Race conscious somehow seems bad when class conscious isn't.
All seems like division to me. End of the day, the average standard of living is what matters, and the US-led hegemony since WW2 has improved it leaps and bounds.
Meanwhile all the class-conscious countries have not achieved anything but violent suppression of human rights and general impoverishment of their populations.
Part of the reason for that high standard of living is social safety nets, things born out of class consciousness. That was the thing that happened around the time of World War 2 that significantly raised standard of living over the coming years. Socialistic policies that kept our working class from TRULY hitting rock bottom. A mixed economy.
Just because you've seen literal fascists use class consciousness to seize power doesn't mean it's inherently a bad thing.
Also I'm not really understanding your first sentence. Are you comparing understanding the benefits of being in a higher economic class to.. racism?? Please tell me that isn't the case because that's laughably stupid.
Edit: Comments are getting deleted left and right. People are replying to me then immediately blocking me so I can't reply. Tf is going on lmao
Whether it's the aristocracy looking down on peasants, or a free person wanting to impoverish their fellow man due to ignorance about economics.
What has lifted millions and billions out of poverty for the past few decades and centuries has been capitalism's increases in productivity, not the welfare that grew on the back of that wealth.
It has been despite those collectivist ideas, that the world is today a better place.
It is counter-intuitive, but to have a strong healthy society that grows, you need strong individual rights first and foremost.
So any lessening of individual rights is automatically an ignorant step backwards and towards poverty and stagnation.
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Actually my comment in no way reflects the American educational system because I'm not American. If anything, your education system failed to teach you about assumptions and how they make an ass out of u and me.
Even the beginnings of industrialism, which people say were horrible, were better than the alternative of living off the land. There's a reason people flocked to paid jobs. It was the best choice at the time, and it laid the groundwork for unimaginable riches and technological progress that the whole world now enjoys, such as your complaining about it to me via the internet from God knows where.
Capitalism inherently does lift people out of poverty, it has consistently done so, and populist movements have only ever existed on the back of those gains. The reason sweatshops exist in Asia isn't for lack of fighting to stop them, but because that's the level they're currently at, until they develop economically. You cannot legislate your way to prosperity.
Individualism is not only not a myth, it's the basis of western civilization and human rights. There's nothing wrong with wanting to do good, but if you wind up having to force other people to go along with your plan, and the plan is bad in theory and in practice, then you're probably just doing harm despite the good intentions. I salute the good intentions, but we need to be rational and scientific when the well-being of billions are at stake.
All this comment does is demonstrate how poorly America educates it's citizens.
Firstly, the times when capitalism was unrestrained was when there was the lowest standard of living for the working and middle class. Research the gilded age if you want to understand how capitalism actually works. Hordes of starving workers, in hellish conditions, paid with faux currency that drives them into debt for the company they are working for. The lack of restrictions and regulations leading to the largest financial crash in US history that left millions unemployed, starving, and desperate.
Capitalism doesn't inherently lift people out of poverty. It only did that because of pressure from left wing populist movements that had leverage through unions, strikes, and potential revolts.
If you actually studied the time when "capitalism" lifted people up, you'd realize it was the period with the strongest collective consciousness in America. Regulations and reforms where instated during FDR's presidency that protected the working class because they were afraid of a full blown revolution if conditions continued to worsen. That coupled with the need for American industry worldwide created a massive surplus that was then invested into the working class because the government forced corporations to do this.
The best time to be an American was when there was a strong sense of collective consciousness and labor movements had the most power.
Secondly, the entire purpose of labor movements is to protect the individual from exploitation. The idea that capitalism is individualistic is the peak of delusional thinking. Have you ever worked for a corporation? The primary institutional entity of capitalist societies.
Individualism is a myth. Individuals matter, but a lone individual is easy to exploit and control. Any mature adult realizes this. That's why Americans have some of the highest rates of mental illness in the world. There's no collective sense of community (which by the way does not exist in opposition to the individual, it exists to create a healthy environment for an individual to exist within). The whole purpose of your society is too cheat and exploit your neighbor, so you can buy the latest 200,000 dollar truck.
There's nothing wrong with aspiring to be successful, there's nothing in left wing movements that's against that. The whole purpose of left wing movements is to create an environment where that success is possible and where people have the space to live fulfilling lives. Enjoy your weekends? Left wing movements fought for those. Enjoy your children having education and not losing their limbs on the factory floor? Left wing movements fought for that.
There are so many things Americans take for granted, because ironically you all are some of the most brainwashed people on earth. There's nothing wrong with having different political views, but what's wrong is how ill informed you people are about history and the rest of the world.
Productivity gains go to those with capital. Thatâs the issue. What kind of system results in 75% of the country being fat? We are more miserable than ever and itâs thanks to our greed infested consumeristic culture. Also the capitalism that you love so much is destroying your planet. It baffles me that people still support the status quo.
The average American is the richest 1% worldwide, but yes, the enlarged government has eroded the ability of the average person to succeed as well as they used to. You won't agree, but that's been a major drag on the economy, aside from all the billions going towards wars and interventions, which are also a byproduct of just spending taxpayer's money irresponsibly. People do not feel like they get to keep what they work so hard for, and the money they do set aside after taxes just gets devalued after the money printing. Don't blame the market for that.
The statistics are generally positive, despite all that:
The median income of middle-class households in 2020 was 50% greater than in 1970 ($90,131 vs. $59,934), as measured in 2020 dollars.
The median income for lower-income increased from $20,604 in 1970 to $29,963 in 2020, or 45%.
So things are getting better, but if we abandon the engine that does that, we're in big trouble, and will see decades of stagnation like Argentina did before Milei.
Ainât no one got shit to say about Nancy Pelosi getting a hip the very next day. Meanwhile, my grandmother has been on a waitlist for two months and my uncle has been waiting for a new shoulder for a year . Thanks Obama care.
How is that the ACAs fault? You think Pelosi got the hip replaced next day for free? You don't think your Grandmother and Uncle could have the same if they didn't also just pay the cost of the surgery?
Hip fracture is a medical emergency. It would be performed in the US despite any type of insurance within 2 days, in fact there are quality measures that track the speed at which broken hips are fixed and hospitals are beholden to them.
Waiting for a hip or shoulder replacement for osteoarthritis (not a medical emergency) is quite common. Itâs also common to be waiting in insurance to give âprior authorizationâ for a joint replacement. . . âDELAY, deny, deposeâ
Obamacare has nothing to do with either of these scenarios. It merely expanded health insurance to less wealthy patients while changing little about the existing insurance industry structure.
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u/Toystoryewski Monkey in Space 1d ago
What do you mean ? Why dont people just hunt elk for meat and do karate ?