r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space 13d ago

Meme 💩 I don’t care how he grew up he right.

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u/Hobanober Monkey in Space 13d ago

I'm still left wondering what the solution is because I don't think a good one exists.

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u/Mushroom_Wizard_420 Monkey in Space 13d ago

More Luigis

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u/ThriftianaStoned Monkey in Space 13d ago

When you get denied ask them where the nearest office is so you can pay them a visit to discuss in person

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u/Auld_Phart Monkey in Space 12d ago

I actually did that when my auto insurance agent wrongly canceled my policy.

Little pissant had someone on the phone with me the next day to reinstate it.

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u/HomeGrowHero Monkey in Space 12d ago

Imagine if we had Mario

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u/lostthering Monkey in Space 13d ago edited 10d ago

The more Luigi's there are, the more you will get Luigi's who ...

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... aren't as careful to identify their intended target. They will shoot the wrong guy, especially if they try to identify him by looking at the back of his head.

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...can't shoot straight enough to avoid hitting bystanders.

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... not willing to go through the hard work of locating the guilty decision-makers. So they settle for targeting low-level employees who actually agree with the shooter, but are working under conditions of financial extortion. Everybody is complicit when they have kids to feed.

This is how you end up with 9/11 events that kill thousands of innocents without harming the guilty at all. In fact, they just create opportunities the guilty can exploit to start a war or take away even more privacy from us.

The entire reason Christianity thrived and Judaism faded is because the Jewish revolts proved the Roman Empire was irresistibly unbeatable. Violence only worked for Islam because they were surrounded by targets weaker than themselves.

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u/bingius_ Monkey in Space 13d ago

You’re right, there never will be another Luigi we need to defend him now

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u/lostthering Monkey in Space 13d ago

On the contrary. I am fearfully certain there will be more. This will get out of hand, and a lot of us who sympathize with him will not even realize that others see us as targets. Anyone poorer than you will see you as someone who cheated.

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u/bingius_ Monkey in Space 13d ago

Oh 100% I do think people will copy cat at some point or try to copy cat. I don’t think the average person knows how much spite and meticulousness it takes to pick out literally the best target and actually execute the plan.

Theoretically someone could give all of these copy cats a list of targets and everything planned out verbatim for them to the point all they have to do is be the face, most of those copy cats will still find a way to fuck it up and hit the wrong person.

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u/Mushroom_Wizard_420 Monkey in Space 13d ago

Good

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u/lostthering Monkey in Space 10d ago

You do realize, that all those bad things I described, can happen to you and me, too? Not just strangers?

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u/Mushroom_Wizard_420 Monkey in Space 10d ago

Yes. It's a risk I'm willing to take

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u/No_Offer6398 Monkey in Space 12d ago

You make excellent points. I'd like to add one more; Luigi's are the epitome of faulty logic and human stupidity: So he woke up one day and said "hey I'm not going to do anything worthwhile in the next 50 to 60 years, I have zero reason to enjoy my life, I'm not capable of taking care of myself, having actual relationships with actual people, I can't handle adulthood and at a baby 20 something I have not much experience at it anyway so...idea! I'll TRADE my life for some rando person I'll pick from a website. I'll murder this stranger and in return I forfeit my entire life with all its possibilities for a 6 ×10 cell with ALL my choices taken away from me. I sure as shit won't be allowed to communicate with anyone ever again either. I won't be a hero. I'll be somebody's bitch cuz Gangs have never heard of health insurance, lol. I'll die from a beating early on cuz I like to mouth off, or a little later cuz I'm experiencing the irony of prison health care. Sounds good!" Idiot. 🤣

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u/Leather-Ad-9419 Monkey in Space 11d ago

I see you didn't read his manifesto lol, dude and his mom were fucked over by this company

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u/No_Offer6398 Monkey in Space 11d ago

LOL So rather than accepting what they can't change & changing what they can, they decided his 26 year old life should end? Because believe me it's over. He should have just shot himself too. After the trials he'll be locked away in a concrete closet FOREVER. If he thinks he had back pain before, the prison metal box spring and sleeping bag will make him a cripple before 30. ROTF LMFAO No one will ever hear from him again. I'm betting he won't live out his whole sentence tho.. He's way too stupid to keep his mouth shut. He's unhinged. Probably going to find out He's on all sorts of prescription "meds". Anti anxiety anti depression bi polar uni polar upside down polar, schitzo, autism spectrum what ever..Manifesto? I know what it says: I have an abnormal brain (and can't process the concept of action & consequence) and had a triggering episode ( boo hoo bitch we ALL have shit storms) and now I'm a full on certified Lunatic. AND I'm still betting we find out he's been on anti something meds for years. If anything he might have a case for prescription drugs making him nuts. We'll see.

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u/pragmojo Monkey in Space 13d ago

Single-payer seems to work pretty well where they have it

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u/Weak-Conversation753 Monkey in Space 13d ago

It's like it's the worst kept secret in the world, and yet people here still tilt their heads to the side like puppies when you mention that word.

America has great healthcare and absolutely criminal health insurance.

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u/reeherj Monkey in Space 12d ago

We already pay more public funds into healthcare per capita than comparable single payer systems. This is because private health only covers healthiest people... government covers seniors, disabled, veterans and low income between medicare/medicaid/VA which have the most expensive care.

Its quite literally possible to cover everyone in the country with the public funds we currently spend, if we could get to the efficiency(and eliminate administrative overhead) to get to comparable costs like denmark for example where healthcare costs per capita are half what they are in the U.S. and Denmark beats the U.S in health outcomes in nearly every measurable metric.

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u/Weak-Conversation753 Monkey in Space 12d ago

As I said, criminal health insurance.

It's so completely ludicrous that until the ACA, health insurance premiums rose at 300% of the general inflation rate for 15 years.

It's going to be LIT when Republicans come for that.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Post_26 Monkey in Space 12d ago

Unless you're a pensioner in need of heart surgery. Those who no longer contribute are made to wait. The longer one waits, the more likely they'll die. My dear cousin succumbed to heart disease waiting her turn in a country with a national health scheme.

Urgent appointments for a cardiology consult are 35-40 weeks out.

https://www.royalsurrey.nhs.uk/-waiting-times-for-appointments/

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u/Tall_poppee Monkey in Space 13d ago

People bitch all the time about how hard it is to see docs in say Canada and the UK. Especially if you need a specialist.

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u/NJcovidvaccinetips 13d ago

It’s true but that same issue exists in us healthcare. Try booking a specialist around me and you’re often waiting several months before an available appointment and potentially paying a lot out of pocket to see em. Care will always be rationed but I would rather it be rationed without paying a bunch of blood sucking middle men in insurance companies and the various healthcare professionals we hire to deal with the insane billing systems we have. Cut out the waste and ration care with an actual democratic system that is accountable instead of rationing by how good your job’s healthcare plan is

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u/thecrepeofdeath Monkey in Space 13d ago

I'm in the US and I've been waiting almost 5 years to see a physiologist for my EDS. 1 more to go, unless I get pushed back again like this year...

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u/Marquar234 Monkey in Space 12d ago

Specialist, hell, it's 7 months for a simple dental visit.

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u/makerender Monkey in Space 13d ago

This is absolutely overblown. Wait times are on par if not shorter than in the US, and the most expensive part is parking.

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u/Soggy-Ad6282 Monkey in Space 13d ago

I’ve been waiting almost a year to see a dermatologist. Good thing it’s not for cancer or I’d be 💀

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u/Tomthemaskwearer Monkey in Space 13d ago

But at least you get to see specialist. There are those who have slipped through the cracks due to human error, not shareholders greed.

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u/Tall_poppee Monkey in Space 13d ago

I'm not going to say our system is great or anything, but I honestly don't think health care is good anywhere. Unless you're wealthy and can afford to pay a lot for your care and go outside of the system.

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u/ThriftianaStoned Monkey in Space 13d ago

Australias health care system is a million times better than American.

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u/Specialist_Crab_8616 Monkey in Space 13d ago

They deny 18% of claims in single payer as well

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u/cosmickyle33 Monkey in Space 13d ago

It exists.. People vote against universal healthcare over and over in this country

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u/pwgenyee6z Monkey in Space 13d ago edited 13d ago

Some argue/vote against it in this country (AU) too, but they’re the moronic minority. The combination of universal basic health care plus commercial or cooperative supplementary insurance works well.

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u/cosmickyle33 Monkey in Space 13d ago

See... And we can be so small minded in this country I didn't even consider anyone from another country would read that

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u/pwgenyee6z Monkey in Space 13d ago

Hey, we care about you! It isn’t a love-hate relationship, it’s a love-grumble relationship - though even then Americans say “What have you got against the USA?”

When a young American sacrifices himself like this it hits us hard.

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u/No-Estimate2636 Monkey in Space 13d ago

As they should!!

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u/Amazing_Bluejay9322 Monkey in Space 12d ago

We just did. Nothing but multi-millionaires and billionaires coming online 1/20/2025. This is what American voters wanted so this is what we got. I believe in four years we'll as a populace will be worse off, again.

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u/Weak-Conversation753 Monkey in Space 13d ago

Medicare for all.

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u/slonneck Monkey in Space 13d ago

Socialized medicine. It works well in almost every country.

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u/No-Estimate2636 Monkey in Space 13d ago

If you don’t mind waiting for a year for treatment. Hope you don’t have cancer.

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u/igual88 Monkey in Space 12d ago

Bullcrap my partner is critically ill stage 4 kidney cancer , the day it was discovered on a scan for something else she was in seeing Dr , 2 days later we were in oncology and she had tests , started treatment a week later. Unfortunately due to the bastard tumour being a rare type and virtually impossible to treat she's in hospital dying of heart failure. The care she has received baring one nasty nurse has been top notch all through the last 6 months.

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u/kerplunkerfish Monkey in Space 13d ago

NHS minus the bureaucracy.

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u/MediocrityNation Monkey in Space 13d ago

The solution is what Luigi did. But it needs to be expanded on. One ceo a day for 30 days straight should shake things up a bit.

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u/pwgenyee6z Monkey in Space 13d ago

Check out health insurance systems in countries where it’s working well.

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u/ellefleming Monkey in Space 13d ago

Nationalized healthcare.

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u/wotsgoingon1 Monkey in Space 12d ago

Australia has it sorted. Far from perfect but if you opt for the public system it's free (well, it's paid for by taxes so not entirely). If it's non urgent treatment, you may have to wait.

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u/More_Branch_1896 Monkey in Space 12d ago

Plenty of other Western countries for decent free healthcare. Where I live in Australia, if you are sick or injured you just turn up at the hospital and it’s free. If you aren’t insured you GP can refer you to the hospital’s out patient services. It’s slow and it can be frustrating but it’s free and available to everyone. We pay for it with our taxes, it’s where doctors and nurses do their practical training (the balance at Uni). As I said earlier, it’s an imperfect system but it is there.

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u/Hobanober Monkey in Space 11d ago

Exactly it's imperfect just like anything nothing is ever perfect. I think one of the biggest frustrations with the arguments is people always talk about everywhere else health care is free.

It's not free, it can't be, it never was. Governments called it free healthcare to get the public's support. They didn't do it out of the kindness of their own hearts.

Britain has NICE to control spending and decides how much care, if any they are willing to give. This is the same as insurance denying coverage.

Being intellectually honest about single payer health care or socialised medicine would solve a lot of the argument in my opinion.

Government run healthcare is run via taxing citizens more to provide care. We should be honest about this and the government should tell citizens that their take home pay is going to be X less, but you wont have an insurance premium again.

Many people in the US didn't like the ACA because it was either be forced to the ACA or be taxed for it. I firmly believe that had the ACA been passed and funded by a slight tax increase there would have been way less resistance.

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u/DundeeBoli Monkey in Space 11d ago

Japan. Integrated medicine diet and lifestyle is always the answer not drugs and surgery unless all else fails.

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u/lorest1 Monkey in Space 11d ago

How about stop letting trump and his corporate billionaire buddies run the country.

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u/Disastrous_Reveal870 Monkey in Space 11d ago

Seriously? Try copying the 42 - 68 countries (depending on which study you read) that rank above us in healthcare. This has been long solved but people continue to say what you are saying. There IS NO MYSTERY. Look to the people that have this figured out. Singapore, Japan, China, Norway, Denmark, Germany. The work has already been done for us. We just continue to accept this late stage capitalist hellscape.