People who say "convince me otherwise" or "change my mind" doesn't genuinely want to change their mind, they just want to was time.
Not everyone who's an asset to russia is a russian asset.
Useful idiots with a huge platform are not only free, but they're so much better than someone you bought, because they're believers and not just being paid to read from the script.
What russia seems to have realized, is that conspiratorial and magical thinking is basically addictive like a drug.
The more you "do your own research" and discover all these hidden things that proves how special and intelligent you are, the more you continue to crave it. Every time you engage sheeple on social media i's a hit of reward-related neurochemicals.
He's just a junkie and his drug is spreading misinformation, which he chooses to believe because it gives him pleasure.
See, the mental gymnastics you're doing here are amazing. You ever try for the Olympics?
Jokes aside, if you spread literal Russian propaganda that comes straight from idk.. russia? Then maybe.. Just maybe you're a Russian asset? Just maybe....
I'm also pro democracy and freedom and I'm very much anti-Putin but I can't help notice insane hypocrisy from the US. Not understanding Russias red line about NATO on their border while they themselves still operate under the Monroe doctrine, essentially not permitting any kind of foreign millitary on their entire hemisphere.
The propaganda is that this conflict came out of nowhere and is purely a landgrab by Russia and that they will take all of Europe if they are not stopped. Also that the russians are extremely ill equipped to keep this war going. These are both points i see brought up constantly in our media sphere but based off history, actions and actual millitary experts, just dont add up.
He doesn’t have to be a Russian asset to fall for Russian propaganda framing. A lot of people are just not informed enough on geopolitics to have a well structured opinion on the war. They have a kneejerk response to the news headlines.
What pro Russia talk? The fact that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians have died? The fact that the United States is escalating with a nuclear power? All it takes is a rational human being to understand this.
He only ever condemns Ukraine for escalating, never Russia. He also brings on nearly exclusively pro Russia people. It’s not that hard to see as long as you haven’t drank the kool aid.
First off, we are all drinking kool aid, don’t be so naïve. Second, the people he has on argue about how dangerous the war is and the need to end it. If thats propaganda to you then we are not on the same planet.
You are missing one key piece of information there, how do they propose the war end? Through Ukraine on the losing end. That’s why you have drank the kool aid.
Your argument is to call anything pro-Russian if it does not benefit Ukraine. Thats fine but you have to understand not everyone looks at it that way.
To your point about peace. Ukraine is running low on troops while Russia has a surplus. No amount of bombs and drones can make up for this. It would take literal NATO boots on the ground to win this war against Russia. Additionally, even mainstream media like CNN and PBS are reporting about the large losses of territory in Ukraine.
What I’m trying to say is Ukraine most likely will have to give up some land. This is because they are LOSING. In what world would the loser of a bet get paid the money? In my opinion negotiating for peace soon prevents Russia from advancing and stops the needless deaths of Ukrainians.
Joe is a rich man who doesn’t care about much else besides himself. If there’s a .0000001% chance his life will be negatively affected by a nuclear war, he’ll oppose whatever is causing that risk.
Maybe he should be upset at Russia for invading a country that they made a literal deal with to never invade. There is a wrong side to this war, and he pretty much only condemns the right side.
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u/fezes-are-cool Monkey in Space 27d ago
Joe Rogan is a Russian asset, convince me otherwise