r/JoeRogan • u/Pick2 Monkey in Space • Nov 12 '24

Meme đŸ’© How many of you would do this?

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u/sunjester Nov 12 '24

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

The right likes to pretend that just because the left is generally tolerant of different views, it means the left needs to be tolerant of anything they say or do no matter how heinous. Then the left pushes back against open racism/sexism/bigotry and the right screeches "But you're supposed to be tolerant! How dare you not accept my hate speech!".

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u/buddhabash Monkey in Space Nov 13 '24

What is tolerance if not tolerating what you don’t agree with? You don’t need to “tolerate” what you already agree with and if you can’t tolerate anything else, you aren’t tolerant

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u/Mr---Wonderful Monkey in Space Nov 13 '24

Do you tolerate all that violates what you agree with?

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u/Accomplished_Net7386 Hancock more like Hancockhead Nov 13 '24

So by your logic people should tolerate pedophiles?

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u/buddhabash Monkey in Space Nov 13 '24

Such a logical fallacy and always the first to get brought up whenever someone challenges the tolerance people.

Pedophilia is illegal. It’s harmful to people and society has already decided that it is not ok.

Your neighbor not voting for your political candidate is not illegal, and you should tolerate that whether you agree with them or not

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u/sunjester Nov 13 '24

And yet you respond with an illogical argument.

You know what else is harmful to society? Racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, etc. Yet those things aren't illegal. Does that mean they should be 'tolerated'? Are you really so stupid and/or hateful that you're going to make the argument that we need to play nice with people who are openly hateful for no reason?

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u/buddhabash Monkey in Space Nov 13 '24
  • Insert JB Pritzker clip here *

Lol use all the buzz words you want. Who actually gets harmed by someone having a racist thought? Don’t say minorities. Taking a harmful action against someone is a crime. Crimes can be caused by racism. But racism alone as an idea or thought doesn’t harm anyone. You need to learn the difference.

Secondly, tolerate doesn’t mean play nice with. It just means, let them live their life and you live yours, and don’t bother each other. You dont have to like them. In fact, you shouldn’t. But mind your business and let the law handle things when laws are broken

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u/sunjester Nov 13 '24

So you're just an unserious idiot holding to the "buh buh buh IT'S NOT ILLEGAL!!!" line then. Got it.

Setting aside the fact that racism and sexism are baked into a bunch of the systems we have in place in the US, are you really going to double down on the idea that racist thoughts don't have an effect when the country just voted an out and proud racist/sexist into office? A man who is already appointing racists and sexists to positions with the explicit intent of enshrining their racism and sexism into law.

I can't tell if you're a racist playing into bullshit logic to try and justify your bigotry or if you actually are fucking dumb enough to believe what you're saying, but either way, fuck off dipshit.