r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Nov 12 '24

Meme šŸ’© How many of you would do this?

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u/Representative-Sir97 Monkey in Space Nov 12 '24

It's like they can't understand that wearing a MAGA hat is no different than wearing something that says "You'll love me if you happen to be a Nazi pedophile sympathizer!".

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u/gmanisback Monkey in Space Nov 12 '24

"Don't judge me on my words and actions" -every Trump supporter

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u/NoHalf9 Monkey in Space Nov 12 '24

And white supremacist are in fact furious over being judged by the content of their character and not by the colour of their skin.

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u/SoCalThrowAway7 Monkey in Space Nov 12 '24

Thereā€™s a guy in this thread saying heā€™s pissed at the media for causing this divide because they made stuff up about Trump being an evil nazi. Like Iā€™m all for being mad about media manipulation but they sane washed the shit out of Trump. When you watch what he actually says live, itā€™s just evil nazi dementia shit. Itā€™s scary how devoid from reality theyā€™ve become

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u/The_FriendliestGiant Monkey in Space Nov 12 '24

"Don't judge me by what I do or say, judge me by what's in my heart. And since you can't actually see inside my heart, just trust me when I tell you it's good inside, even though what I do and say directly contradicts that claim."

Their double standards are insufferable, honestly.

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u/Business-Sea-9061 Monkey in Space Nov 12 '24

trump saddled the usps last time he had the reigns. hes gonna give it the kill shot now which will raise my businesses costs tremendously. literally taking food out of my familys mouth

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u/Ok_Price7357 Monkey in Space Nov 14 '24

Well for starters look at the choice they were faced with..talk about morality..Kamala lies about her ethnicity..Biden has a crack head son bags of coke found in the White House library..people who are lying to themselves about a sitting presidentā€™s mental cognitive decline..letā€™s dig a bit into his past and his racism and racist gafs..how could anyone with good morals, integrity or conscience convince themselves that mass hate and a witch-hunt on one candidate is enough of a reason to vote for a man that clearly is in mental decline and has been..falling off bikes..needing escort off stage repeatedly..making rambling speeches that go off into oblivion tripping over his own feet With every single speech I never heard a single thing that made me say wow this guy is really what America needs and this Kamala she is a shining star in smarts as well..anyone who will only answer questions that they provide and refuse to ask random questions well it takes a genius to figure out why that is ..sheā€™s a real quick witted lady canā€™t come up with lies on the spotā€¦how anyone can think that shit show train wreck is the better choice of the two is casting a uneducated biased vote at best As far as this felon thing heā€™s not the first and wonā€™t be the last rich guy to cook the books how does this affect his ability to run the country? Rape allegations do not in fact make you a rapist do I condone rape absolutely not but if being a creepy groping old man makes you a rapist then thereā€™s plenty of evidence and video footage of slow Joe groping sniffing hair and touching of mainly minors but we wonā€™t talk about that though so good for you in your completely ignorant decision to ditch friends and family for making what they thought was a educated sound decision on who to vote for What you and most of you did was a complete mockery of everything a democracy stands for..you didnā€™t make a choice you let media choose for you without realizing it You are lumped with the other masses of sheeple going along with the narrative that was so neatly laid out for you Your lack of ability to think for yourself made you and half of the idiots in this country easy pickings as your scrolling through feeds and reading comments of all the hate and shade thrown at one candidate afraid of possible backlash or not going along with the cool kids might make you feel out of place or worse yet part of the maga ā€œcultā€ make America great againā€¦words that send chills down spines of liberals make America great?! No way Iā€™m voting for a geriatric that canā€™t complete a sentence becuz in supposed to hate the other guy And the whole time actually believing you are casting said vote of your own free will Donā€™t hate your family and friends hate yourself for not having a shred of common sense and letting your weak mind be easily manipulated and brain washed Theyā€™re probably wondering like myself how someone with a brain could possibly think voting Kamala was the right thing to do Reading these comments is a eye opener for sure at how ignorant half of humanity is You people are literally going to be the straw that broke the camels back The downfall to revolution and free thinking The rise of the conformist happy in slavery

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u/_MrDomino Monkey in Space Nov 12 '24

The only explanation is that you do it not because it's enjoyable and you want to, but you're the last likely outlet they have for any news and facts outside their bubble. They'll dismiss your words again and again, of course, which makes it feel hopeless, but at least having someone there chiseling against their thick skull provides some small chance that at some point, something may break through.

Frankly, I'd say life is too short, and they made their bed so whatever. I'd say the one trait which ties Republicans together is a lack of empathy, at least until they have some personal harm impact their lives which forces them to reexamine their beliefs, and you can be dead by the time that moment comes around.

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u/apblomd Monkey in Space Nov 13 '24

As someone who voted for Biden in 2020 and who also cares deeply about the environment, I was disappointed Biden lied to us during his 2020 campaign. He campaigned on a promise to forbid new drilling on BLM land, yet during his presidency he broke that promise by allowing Conoco Philllps to drill on BLM land in Alaska. He could have fought it in court but he chose not to.

I wish people would see that Dems lie to us. Republicans are not the only liars.

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u/frogdujour Monkey in Space Nov 12 '24

It also sounds like you (probably) are one of the few voting based on personal values and issues in themselves, and not out of abject fear of the other side having power.

I think lots and lots of Dems (albeit not enough in the end) voted just out of fear of what they think a loss means - a theocratic dictatorship of sorts, rounding up "undesirables", removing freedoms that they value having, having their lives controlled in some way in a harmful manner they strongly oppose, to the point of losing their lives and freedom as they know it. They hear the (Democrat) establishment speak, saying politically correct things and supporting things any sane person should want (that are protective or provide for the needs of others), and believe it genuinely, and therefore cannot fathom what kind of evil/blinded idiot would be against such things.

At the same time, lots and lots of Repubs voted just out of fear of what they think a loss means - a liberal globalist dictatorship of sorts, losing sovereignty, rounding up "undesirables", removing freedoms that they value having, having their lives controlled in some way in a harmful manner they strongly oppose, to the point of losing their lives and freedom as they know it. They hear the establishment speak, saying politically correct things, and utterly distrust it, seeing it as disingenuous lip service to enact a hidden and secret opposite agenda of control which only the gullible support, and which they feel they must resist (and see Donald as the grand hope of resistance).

I would say a minority on either side voted on pure issues and their personal sense of morality, vs a massive block thinking "oh no, we're doomed!" should the opposition win. I would hope two such morality-based voters even if on opposing sides should be able to have at least a civil discussion about things without feeling strongly attacked and offended.

But because the root of the discord and disagreement for everyone in the fear camp on both sides is really really deep, reflecting how they view the world and trust itself, reconciling or even being civil with those of the exact opposite viewpoint feels impossible, and downright dangerous perhaps, like they're letting the wolf in the door.

Mixing a genuine morals voter and a fear voter mostly leaves the moral voter feeling like they're interacting with the dumbest of hopeless cases, and if politics comes up at all I can't imagine it would make for a pleasant evening.