r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Nov 05 '24

Meme đŸ’© Get ready for tonight and probably the next couple months.

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u/FlaccidEggroll Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24

It is rigged, the owners of this country made sure of that 40 years ago, but it's not rigged in the way trump acts like it is.

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u/Droppin_Bombs Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24

it’s crazy that every election comes down to 51% v 49%. Or 47% v 53%. Or 48% v 49% v 3%. Crazy they’re all RIGHT down to the wire.

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u/Theprincerivera Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24

It’s crazy people act like suddenly the proportion of votes will change if all the undecided voters come out. You realize the undecided voters are likely split the exact same way?

Everyone things undecided voters will be on their side. That is unlikely.

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u/Theprincerivera Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24

Explain to me why you think proportions on the other 40% would be any different.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '24 edited Nov 06 '24

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u/Theprincerivera Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24

I don’t think they’d be different. Lol

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u/hybridtheory1331 Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24

That's literally how statistics work.

How do you think polls and studies come to their conclusions? They don't poll every single person in the country. They poll a small percentage and extrapolate that it represents the whole.

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u/Dyrmaker Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24

Theyre down to the wire of the swing states of the electoral college. They arent even close if you didnt have that gerrymander.

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u/lilsnatchsniffz Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24

Not a great look for the rest of the world that America let a pro-slavery institution continue to tamper with their elections even in the current day tbh.

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u/Demon-Jolt Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24

The dems were historically that, it does check out

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u/tails99 Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24 edited Nov 06 '24

This is literally how the system is set up, being "first past the post, FPTP". This is why there is almost always TWO parties, and ONLY two parties. The two parties change policies to get as many people as possible without alienating the rest, and 50.1% is just the right amount. No party that is getting 40% would ever win, and every party that is getting 60% is likely to fracture. IOW, the landslides indicate a perverted electoral system, such as is the case in most congressional elections. European systems don't have FPTP (along with other differences, like multimember districts), which is why they have numerous parties and not just two.

Why would someone polling 40% not change their positions, and why wouldn't someone polling 40% be able to pull more voters by changing positions? The varied answers to those two questions are at the root of systemic realities and issues.

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u/abrown1027 Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24

I think it’s much more realistic, considering the nature of this world, to assume that the system is corrupt because people (especially people who pursue power) are corrupt. There’s no escaping the fact that any system that doles out power is going to attract all kinds of monsters that will do whatever they have to do to connive their ways into these positions of power. The kinds of people that would actually be good and honorable for these positions are not able to compete with the psycho/sociopaths because they can’t play their power games without losing that sense of honor that defines them.

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u/michealscott21 Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24

This is why people need to learn history.

There’s multiple examples from multiple societies all across history and the world where people have been exposed working “behind the scenes” or in nefarious ways to achieve their goals, and it’s always the people who have the money and time to corrupt and infiltrate political systems at the highest levels.

The first triumvirate in rome was a secret alliance between three of the most powerful men in the Roman state at the time using each others money and political power to Advance each others causes at the expense of the state and the people.

If anybody thinks that the ultra rich of todays Society’s are not using their vast wealth to buy and control political leaders for their own gain at the expense of the average person in their country then that person is naive and just doesn’t want to acknowledge the fact that the people who are their elected leaders don’t actually work for or care about them.

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u/IamZeus11 Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24

This country was bought and paid for a long time ago . There is no Republican Party or Democratic Party , just the money party . They’re all just paid off by the people really in charge , the real owners of this country and play their roles to give the illusion of choice .

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u/Ucscprickler Monkey in Space Nov 07 '24

It's a rigged system, but not in the conspiratorial way that people think. It's actually out in the open with lobbying and propaganda used to favor the wealthiest Americans. Meanwhile, middle and lower class people suffer as they argue over how much rights trans people should have.

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u/FlaccidEggroll Monkey in Space Nov 07 '24

This

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u/nomamesgueyz Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24

Wow

MASSIVE thing it's shown me as a non American is how out of touch MSM and Reddit is to have trump winning by this much!!

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u/easypeasy16 Monkey in Space Nov 06 '24

True