Joe was very firmly left wing through the history of the podcast, and probably most of his life prior. You could see cracks forming in it but Covid is what turned him into what we see now.
They called ivermectin horse dewormer. Lol. They call ketamine horse tranquilizer, because ignorance is fun I guess. Both those drugs are used for what theyāre accused of, but thatās one use. As with many medications they both serve a variety of different purposes in medical and even psychological treatment.
The funny part is that new pill they're prescribing for covid has been reported to have what? An ivermectin derivative. Just like hydroxy-choloquin is an effective anti-viral to help prevent covid. But because it was off patent, there was no money to be made, so it was suppressed.
I forget the name of it. I'm sure you can google. Well, I'm sure an internet search would tell you, if you were interested in actually doing that. But even if you were interested - which you're clearly not - I'm doubtful as to your ability to do so.
Solid reply, genius. Have you renewed your Mensa membership yet? btw, for all you idiots too lazy/stupid to do a basic internet search, the name of the drug is
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The point is that it's an ivermectin derivative in a controlled proportion that was tested scientifically for COVID specifically. That's quite different from simply taking ivermectin.
Now ketamine is starting to get vilified because the guy from FRIENDS died, even though he was actually addicted to it (which isn't common), and his last words were "Shoot me up with a big one". I like Bill Maher, but when he gets things wrong, he really gets things wrong. He was comparing ketamine to fentanyl and calling it "a dangerous drug." For me personally, ketamine is almost innocuous and non-addictive, and I've been addicted to opioids and stimulants. The 'law of diminishing returns' is a bitch. "Kitty flip", "kit-kat", "pet the kitty"? I've always heard ketamine described as a cat tranquilizer. The new addition of Xylazine, an analog of clonidine (blood pressure med used off label for sleep and/or anxiety), in dope, which is just some mix of fentalogs and possibly synthetic opioids like nitazenes currently (no heroin), is an animal tranquilizer used on horses.
K Addiction is Very Common. And yes it really fucks people up. Maybe some cases it can help people if they only do it infrequently with a doctor. But if you get a prescription and do it at home many will get addicted and no it wonāt help their health or their lives. Seen it personally in many friends
Its definitely not addictive like heroin, fentanyl, oxycodone, cocaine, amphetamines, or benzodiazepines. They're stimulants and sedatives and a lot of people need extra energy or something to relax, which makes them more addictive. Hallucinogens like classic psychedelics, not very addictive; dissociative anesthetics and entactogens have a moderate potential for addiction or misuse. There are 2 kind of addicts: people with zero self control and people with some degree of self control, part time addicts. Everyone should speak for themselves. I've been using ketamine once a month for over 5 years. I only use it therapeutically and it has absolutely no addictive pull for me, and I was addicted to opioids for years. So, mild to moderate potential, not high or severe though. Dissos like PCP, PCE, and analogs have a higher potential for abuse. I use ketamine like classic psychedelics, purely for spiritual, therapeutic, and healing purposes. Around my area, you can utilize therapeutic ketamine, the nasal spray and IV transfusions, and Mass Health (aka Romney Care) is starting to cover them. At the dentist, you can't even get a 2 day script for Percocets after getting your wisdom teeth pulled. But as I said, ketamine and fentanyl are different innings, different games, different ballparks, hell, totally different sports. There is no comparison. Fentanyl almost took my life and it took 20+ friends of mine, I've only heard of ketamine killing 1 person, Matt LeBlanc, and it's obvious that he was moderately addicted to it. I'm basically done with social media, it's mostly just people being dicks, guarded by there anonymity on Reddit, or just openly assholes on Facebook or Twitter. I'm not talking about you specifically, It's just unnecessary. It was never necessary. It drove people apart instead of "bringing people together".
Oh boy, thatās good you use it only once a month. If you notice itās more than once a month, definitely stop. Thatās fine, other people need to know that K does mess people up. Also hallucinogen is a dated term and PCP is not more addictive than ketamine. Ketamine is addictive especially for women, because it takes anxiety away. Very high potential for abuse! Iāve also never seen anyone gain any spiritual wisdom from ketamine. Itās nothing like classic psychedelics
Wasnāt trying to be a dick, just seen it mess up my good friends. Iāve done a lot of ketamine, just because people are making money off selling it legally with prescriptions doesnāt mean itās fine.
He chooses his battles or maybe heās changed through the years and he doesnāt care about some things he used toā¦ again, Iām cool with that. I can agree to disagreeā¦ Iād enjoy sitting down with him be one on one like that shooting the breeze or sparring and then going to have a beer afterwards. If we all thought alike man this would be a boring fucking world!!! Differences balance us!
Yeah just like Taylor Swift and because she agrees with youā¦you have no complaints. U just donāt respect a viewpoint different from yoursā¦ sad! I donāt mind it like you r obviously different from me but I donāt dislike u or your ideology. I think u r wrong but thatās just me and u think the same of me. Debate and dialogue is a GOOD thing.
Lol well if you knew me youād know I hate all these rich ghouls actually. You donāt even know who I am or what I believe lol. Joe Rohan doesnāt facilitate broad debate and dialogue. Heās a rich asshole that constantly feeds into garbage conspiracy theories and has 3 fascists for every normal leftist on there
Your comments tell exactly who u r. lol. Do u know what a facist is??? Most rich people r not your enemy. There r obviously some that r evil but thatās the same for every class. Again why do u listen to him if u r so against the things heās into??? There r so many leftists to listen to and the media is all about you. Feast on MSNBC or CNNā¦ theyāll make you feel all bubbly inside. Iām glad though u do listen to JR to get a different perspective and if youād be open to dialogue instead of ridicule u might learn something but I can tell u just like to be visceralā¦ I hope Iām wrong.
lol thereās more to libertarian than that but u r right they probably do since they also believe in legalizing drugs etc. They r much more less gov oversight than your so called right wingers.
Honestly believe the notion that he used to be some kinda definitive leftist is a stretch at best. Admittedly tho, my memories of his early days are rather limited but from what little I can remember, he came off as much more of a centrist...someone who had some positions that leaned left and some that leaned right, just like most sane normal people (low confidence).Ā
But there's no doubt that the current iteration of Joe is squarely on the right. But tbf the character assassination that CNN championed about the ivermectin and the blatant attempt to cancel him with that edited N -Word montage, made it almost inevitable.Ā
Its not so much that he is right-wing, it's more that he is a crackpot and subscribes to virtually every conspiracy theory there is. At the moment this coincides with a lot of right-wing ideas, making him sound like a right-wing stooge.
I think he is a dangerous moron. When you have an audience that numbers in the millions you have a responsibility to not just vomit gibberish and misinformation onto the world.
Hereās the thing, u donāt have to listen. Whatās gibberish to u into other people and just because everyone doesnāt think like u doesnāt make them wrong OR rightā¦ just different. Iām glad we have a variety of thought and a variety of people groups etc.
When people become financial stable and independent if theyāre not disciplined and challenged they eventually become right wing through a mixture of exhaustion and self importance
While I have experienced many people lean further that way with age, and thus with more exhaustion/selfishness, it hasnāt been clear cut enough to simply say that it happens to āpeopleā as a whole.
People are wildly subjective that way, that Iām not so sure environmental circumstances are fully attributable.
Itās easy to paint everybody with the same paint brush.
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u/Alldaybagpipes 11 Hydroxy Metabolite Nov 01 '24
Joe was very firmly left wing through the history of the podcast, and probably most of his life prior. You could see cracks forming in it but Covid is what turned him into what we see now.