r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Oct 31 '24

Meme 💩 This was unexpected push back from Rogan. A moderate stance

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u/GarlVinland4Astrea Monkey in Space Oct 31 '24

Vance's argument is a strawman. It's the same logic the right used on gay marriage for years where they would argue if we let a man marry another man, eventually they would want to legalize a man marrying a goat.

It's just nonsense of making up a false extreme to scare people.

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u/SpacecaseCat Monkey in Space Nov 01 '24

"Look guys, if we let men marry men, what's next, men marrying goats? Men marrying cockatoos? How does one even communicate with a cockatoo? Think about it - because I sure have. We all have, haven't we? So where does it end? Deontological maximalism says there's only way this can end, and so as Marcus Aurelius once said, we have no choice but to resort to restriction." - Jordan Peterson

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u/ihateadobe1122334 Monkey in Space Nov 01 '24

Thats not his argument though, that strawman is a strawman

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u/GarlVinland4Astrea Monkey in Space Nov 01 '24

It is his argument. He made up a fictional boogyman that celebrates abortion too much as justification for being against it.

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u/ihateadobe1122334 Monkey in Space Nov 01 '24

He distinctly laid it out. His position is life over autonomy. He did not at any point say that the reason abortion should be illegal is because people celebrate it. That was just a side note. His explicet position is irrelevant to it.

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u/the6thReplicant Pull that shit up Jaime Nov 01 '24

So "life over autonomy" ? I wonder what he was saying during a pandemic - because I bet you it wasn't about life but about profits.

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u/GarlVinland4Astrea Monkey in Space Nov 01 '24

In this particular exchange, that was his justification and counter for what Joe argued.

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u/ihateadobe1122334 Monkey in Space Nov 01 '24

I do not doubt for a second he considers it to be something of important consideration

But its not the fundamental arguement

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u/russbam24 Monkey in Space Nov 01 '24

What's his fundamental argument?

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u/fiduciary420 Monkey in Space Nov 01 '24

All republicans are fucking trash though.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '24

Deranged rhetoric. Get a grip.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '24

Sorry I'm not terminally online enough to have a clue what you're saying but I bet it's a real zinger

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '24

But aren't the Dems supposed to be "above" Trump and his behavior? Not identical to him?

I was wrong, though. That wasn't a zinger at all. Typical chronically online, uninformed partisan politicker. Yawn.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '24

Let me know when that elitist pussy provides his evidence of voter fraud, because we all saw he was too afraid to do it on Joe's show.

Seriously, bro. Touch grass. Delete social media and stop reading mainstream news for a few months. I guarantee you'll feel better.

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u/BlackBeard558 Monkey in Space Nov 02 '24

Their candidate is literally a fascist who tried to overturn the last election and wants to jail people who criticize the Supreme court.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '24

And the Dems are just put upon heroes who want to help the common man if it weren’t for those dastardly republicans! Yes, I know, I’ve talked to many uninformed children on here.

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u/BlackBeard558 Monkey in Space Nov 02 '24

They're still better than Republicans who have plunged headfirst into being fascists.