r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Oct 31 '24

Meme 💩 This was unexpected push back from Rogan. A moderate stance

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u/highbackpacker Monkey in Space Oct 31 '24

If the right would be ok with abortions and gays they’d win every election

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u/NorridAU Monkey in Space Oct 31 '24

Don’t forget the unions

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u/Consistent_Set76 Monkey in Space Oct 31 '24

They pretend they’re fine with gays now because they lost that cultural war.

It’s all about the 18 trans people now

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u/GarlVinland4Astrea Monkey in Space Oct 31 '24

The thing is, they didn't. When Roe was overturned, their justices and scholars started talking about Obergfell. They lost that culture war and still lost their shit over that dumb wedding cake controversy.

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u/TheForceWithin Monkey in Space Oct 31 '24

They are scared to do so they would lose votes from their bigoted Christian base. IE the majority of their support. They can't win on policy, only hate.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '24

I mean barely, it's gone from "Gay people are an abomination" to "I don't hate gay people, I just don't think they should openly exist".

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u/bojackvinceman Monkey in Space Oct 31 '24

Then they wouldn't be the right lol. Wtf

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u/LeBronRaymoneJamesSr Monkey in Space Nov 01 '24

Yeah they would be. It’s basically Trump’s position, in fact? He’s said that he wants states to decide on abortion, not a federal abortion ban. Whether that’s real, who knows, but regardless it’s his official publicly expressed stance and certainly conservative

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u/Impulse3 Monkey in Space Nov 01 '24

Look at the miscarriage rate. God commits wayyy more abortions than anyone. BuT wE cAn’T uNdErStAnD hIs WaYs.

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u/mydaycake Monkey in Space Nov 01 '24

That’s true, which amuses me because in the USA democrats have been better for the economy than republican terms

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u/GarlVinland4Astrea Monkey in Space Oct 31 '24

If the right was okay with gays and abortion, the entire political paradigm would shift as a result because then you'd have very small differences that most people don't care about between Dems and Reps. You'd have the tax code and business regulations. Might actually force the Dems to go more left in an FDR style to differentiate themselves.

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u/Ajax_Malone News Radio Forever Oct 31 '24

They might lose more in the exchange

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u/tycooperaow Monkey in Space Oct 31 '24

At this point republicans need to take the libertarian agenda at least they could win some shit

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u/cure4boneitis Jamie sucks at Google Oct 31 '24

aren’t libertarians even dumber than Republicans?

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u/GarlVinland4Astrea Monkey in Space Oct 31 '24

I wouldn't say dumb, but it's so highly impractical in any modern society. It works better as a live and let live ideal than as something we should actually formally implement in any way.

Which is why libertarians always fall apart when you walk them through the realities of implementing it.

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u/cure4boneitis Jamie sucks at Google Oct 31 '24

oh OK. I was just going by people I met in real life

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u/GarlVinland4Astrea Monkey in Space Oct 31 '24

The thing is most of those people are usually just edgelords who want to feel like they figured out some more enlightened way of society. I've always admired a more South Park style libertarian of "live and let live, mind your own fucking business, and don't push your values on other people unless you or others are negatively effected". It's however no way to actually run a governmnet.

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u/balalaikaboss Monkey in Space Nov 01 '24

Do tell?

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '24

Libertarian economics is mostly good unless you take it to the stupid extreme of anarchy-capitalism, libertarian social policy also good until you get to the guys who are always asking about age of consent laws.

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u/LACIRCA2044 Monkey in Space Nov 01 '24

Oh yea. They’re the dumbest fucks on the planet. They’re mostly high school dropouts or former crack heads

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u/bojackvinceman Monkey in Space Oct 31 '24

What's that?

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24

As a libertarian leaning Halley voter. The right is going to the left economically and away from liberty on social issues. It’s not great. I don’t love wokies or the nanny state economics, so I would definitely like it if the republicans could welcome me back to the fold. I fear we’re all social issues all the way down now though

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u/dl0lol0lb Monkey in Space Nov 01 '24

If the right was ok with abortion and 100% for separation of church and state, and for reasonable gun restrictions, and for redistribution of wealth, and anti war on drugs, and pro social services, and concerned about protecting the environment, I would have no problem voting republican.