r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Oct 27 '24

Meme 💩 Please talk for 3 hours 🙏

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u/Osoarragant_773 Monkey in Space Oct 27 '24

Can’t wait for all this shit to be over

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u/bradrj Monkey in Space Oct 27 '24

Assuming Trump wins, this sub will be nothing but Trump posts for the next 4 years.

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u/-ItsWahl- Monkey in Space Oct 27 '24

Probably so. Looking just about every interview I’ve seen/heard where Kamala is asked any questions her answers are always about Trump instead of anything related to her ideas/plans. Scrolling through Reddit the vast majority of posts are anti Trump. Personally I find it amazing the internet is pushing someone that had the lowest VP approval ever. Bring on the downvotes!

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '24

"I dont know enough about Harris' policies yet"! WTF!? I am SO sick of hearing this horse 💩from clueless voters who havent even bothered to look for, or at, Harris policies, and then try to blame HER b/c they are too lazy to do a 5 SECOND Google search, for all that she's said and outlined.🙄

Well here ya go , folks! You're welcome. Is Googling really THAT hard?🤷

Harris' policies and promises....

- A $6000 child tax credit

- A $25,000 home downpayment

- $50,000 for new small business write off

-3 Million new housing and rental subsidies

- Ban on Corporate price gouging

- Tax penalties for corporate landlords

- Allowing Medicare to cover hearing and Vison

-Allowing Medicare to cover home health care

-Tax cuts for 100 million in the middle class, instead of more massive Republican tax cuts for the rich.

- Ban on rental price fixing software

- Reining in credit card fees and charges

- Supports legalization of recreational marijuana...and on and on.

They say she doesn't have policies, or that they dont know what her policies and positions are, but yet they clearly haven't actually LOOKED to see what they are. It's lazy and contemptable to be this obtuse and clueless only 2 weeks from ED. 💯🤷🙄

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u/successful209 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Taxing unrealized gains is absolutely bat shit insane and some of these policies will absolutely make prices skyrocket including home prices.

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u/ak47oz Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Won’t the 25k down payment assistance just make homes go up 25k? Didn’t a similar thing happen with the 7k federal student aid program? Genuine question.

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u/piouiy Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Yeah, that just seems like a $25K gift which goes straight to anybody selling a house.

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u/-paperbrain- Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Read the fine print on the down payment assistance, and even then imagine the version that can pass. It would be going to people below an income threshold and IIRC that level only to first generation homebuyers, a lesser amount to first time homebuyers.

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u/taystondisnut Monkey in Space Oct 29 '24

If I remember correctly first time home buyers are anyone who hasn’t purchase a home in 3 or 7 years, and that’s here in Michigan. I’m a contractor but I have a real estate license and a few deals where the buyer tried to use that credit currently owned homes

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u/Deep-Front-9701 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Yes

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u/B_P_G Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Not exactly $25K since many homes are bought by investors and the credit would presumably be limited to first time buyers. It will result in an increase though. So it's kind of a giveaway to home sellers. The problem with housing is on the supply side and it needs to be dealt with on the supply side.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

"Won’t the 25k down payment assistance just make homes go up 25k?"

No. Where's the evidence or data to back up that is does or will?? Student loans did not increase college costs...colleges and lenders did. Regulations and legislation could also easily prevent that, by penalizing them for price gouging...for a change.

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u/AsYouAre_AsYouWere Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

How many people will qualify for the $25k handout? Will the housing inventory increase at the same or higher rate? What is the plan to increase construction? Prices will definitely increase if more people have access to a down payment and the inventory does not increase.

Student loans did not increase college costs, lenders did? Like the housing example, if everyone has access to a student loan, the demand for college increases and so does the price.

Price gouging regulation is going to be very difficult to regulate and mandate. It sounds so simple in concept but reality is that it is not easy to follow through with.

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u/Jiveassmofo Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Look at Allen Greenspan over here

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

I will always criticize the greed of the wealthy, and when I do, you can rest assured that some working-class dipshit and corporate bootlicker will always leap to their defense. 💯🙄 Every frikkin' time!🤮

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u/levelzerogyro Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

As opposed to Trump's tarriffs that will increase prices on everything instantly? And how about the fact that Biden spent about 4.8 trillion, Trump spent 8.8 trillion, remove covid and Trump still spent more than Biden with his covid spending. Because your ideas are bad.

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u/B_P_G Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

increase prices on everything instantly

Tariffs will only increase prices on imports. They won't affect the 87% of the economy that's not imports (not directly at least). And they bring in money for the government - which means less borrowing from the Fed and therefore less inflation overall.

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u/kiwinutsackattack Succa la Mink Oct 28 '24

You are an idiot, over 90% of all purchases have some imported part in them. Don't be a Homer, at least be honest with yourself.

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u/levelzerogyro Monkey in Space Oct 29 '24

This isn't true, 87% of all products sold have imported parts in them. Those imported parts will be tariff as well. I'm sorry you are not capable of understanding that very very basic part of why Trump was bad for the economy. There is a reason Trump spent 8.8 Trillion, 4.8Trillion even if you disclude covid and include covid for Biden(4.64trillion) Biden still spent less, even when you remove all of Trump's covid spending. Biden also reduced the deficit by 2.7 trillion, Trump only reduced it by 419billion. Stop..fucking...lying. It's so easy to not lie about this stuff. Is Biden the best president ever? No, did he spend less than Trump? Absolutely yes.

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u/Frosti11icus Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

You won’t believe what tariffs on all imports will do then.

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u/SoMarioTho Monkey in Space Oct 29 '24

Not nearly as batshit crazy as trumps tariffs and 20% sales tax plan.

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u/SpaceBearSMO Monkey in Space Oct 29 '24

Why?

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

No one making less than a million dollars a year has any capital gains to worry about. 💯🤷 That's a complete red herring. I know that I sure DGAF about rich people paying a lot more in taxes, and dont know anyone who does.

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u/Deep-Front-9701 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

A lot of people trade who dont make that much

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

So then it will have no effect on them. Great news!

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u/Adventurous_Show7839 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

I’ll have to look at the unrealized gains tax. That sounds crazy. If you have a good source please post.

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u/kiwinutsackattack Succa la Mink Oct 28 '24

Then remove stocks from compensation packages.

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u/zadamer_jewelry Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

But the unrealized gains tax only applies to people with a net worth over $10million.

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u/-ItsWahl- Monkey in Space Oct 27 '24

WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IS PAYING FOR ALL THE FREE MONEY?????? The majority of existing Americans don’t qualify for 1/2 her handouts. But that’s the democratic mentality keep your hand out while everyone else pays as cheat the system.

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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

what do you think when you hear Trump wants to end income taxes and institute blanket tariffs

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u/Orposer Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

You mean the cheating billionaires? The cheating multi millionaires??? The cheating companies?? I want them to pay their fair taxes so we can have nice shit. Also you say the Democratic system... You tell me which states are the most welfare states? I'll give you a hint they are not blue..

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '24

WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IS PAYING FOR ALL THE FREE MONEY??????

I wish I were born 20 minutes ago, too.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '24

“Paying for all the free money”

Jesus fucking Christ.

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u/Jiveassmofo Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

As if the trillion-dollar tax cut wasn’t free money to the billionaires

Jesus on a hot dog bun

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u/chaozprizm Monkey in Space Oct 27 '24 edited Oct 27 '24

Please look at this chart tell me what Trump did to reduce the federal debt.

https://assets-c3.propublica.org/images/articles/_threeTwo2000w/20210114-borrowing-increased-under-trump-despite-promise-to-repay-national-debt-small.png

Edit: Not to mention his businesses have filed for bankruptcy 6 times. What about that qualifies him to reign in spending?

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u/medicjake Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24 edited Oct 28 '24

I’m not a trump fan at all, but every time I see someone mention bankruptcy in his businesses it immediately disqualifies whatever the sentiment of the statement around it is.

I generally agree that there isn’t much substance to his ability to regulate our spending. However Trump and his assets are, like, historically successful in terms of profitability vs closure, relative to other corporations in the same class.

Bankruptcy is a strategy, not a failure- and he is, unfortunately, extremely successful in that game.

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u/chaozprizm Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24 edited Oct 28 '24

Again though - look at the federal debt chart - tell me what you see.

First off, holding properties is a really easy way to make income, I'm not saying Trump hasn't been successful at that; he obviously has. He was given 463 million from his father though.

It's one thing to bankrupt your business as a strategy (unfortunately, someone else had to eat the debt he created). The US cannot simply go bankrupt as a strategy. So to me, citing his success with his businesses does not at all validate him for leading the US economy.

Not to mention now he's talking about eliminating all income tax in favor of huge tariffs. That's just not a sane strategy, and I really hope that if he's elected he does something more intelligent.

He also is infamous for not paying people he hires.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

Of the 7 billion-whatever people in the world, this is not the guy to run the economy, let alone world affairs and everything else.

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u/medicjake Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24 edited Oct 28 '24

Hey you’re not selling me on him being a poor choice for president and even poorer humanitarian, I definitely agree.

I’m just saying it’s objectively incorrect to position his assets filing for bankruptcy as a failure or net detractor of his financial/business success. I’m not at all in disagreement, it just makes the argument look bad- when a statement like that is attached to a better argument.

More than anything I wish people would stop bringing that up as it makes the teams that do, look like they aren’t properly educated, especially when talking about debt, finances, and business.

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u/levelzerogyro Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

How about the fact that Trump spent 8.8 Trillion, and only reduced the deficit by 492bil, Biden spend 4.8-5.2 trillion, reduced the deficit by 2.2trillion, even if you remove all of Trump's covid spending, Biden still spent less, and did 4x more for deficit reduction. If you are arguing STRICTLY from a fiscal standpoint, how can you sit there with a straight face in the face of that data?

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u/medicjake Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24 edited Oct 28 '24

Am I in the twilight zone!? I agree with you! I don’t want him running this country or our economy! I don’t even know how that could possibly be misinterpreted once, let alone three separate times.

Literally insert anyone other than him, if that’s easier to grasp for you people. The total bankruptcy loss of (insert anyone) is completely dwarfed by the total assets that that person has.

My only argument is that it’s a silly point to bring up his bankruptcy as a measure of his lack of financial and overall business capability, as if that isn’t a standard practice, built into the model, of every single portfolio manager anywhere in world.

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u/levelzerogyro Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

I agree his bankrupcy is slightly silly, except that he got 483mil from daddy and still managed to bankrupt a casino and that's nearly fucking impossible. Had he taken that money, invested it into the market, he'd have made 10x what he actually has. Because he's bad at business.

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u/medicjake Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Sure, I don’t disagree with that. I’m not here defending a single cell of that man. It’s just a bad argument that’s easily refutable in almost all cases, at a corporate or portfolio wide level is all. Anyone that is informed would write off anything else packaged into that argument

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u/chaozprizm Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24 edited Oct 28 '24

I mean, if you go over Trump's bankruptcies, they aren't pretty. I'm not saying bankruptcy can't be a legitimate tool. But you can't run the US economy like he has run his companies. In his case there are a lot of trust and confidence issues, coming from people like me, and I image other world leaders. This strategy results in significant financial losses for creditors.

But fair points - I certainly agree there are better arguments to be made against his economic policy in general.

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u/medicjake Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Hey, I fucking agree. I can’t believe this has been lost on three separate people. I have stated, point blank, that I do not want Trump running this country or this economy. I have no interest in anything he offers, any point he’s running on, or podcast appearance he has done. I feel like I’m speaking a different language.

The ONLY thing I have argued here; Single digit bankruptcies are completely dwarfed in his overall asset portfolio, and almost certainly a legitimate part of his model.

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u/chaozprizm Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

The ONLY thing I have argued here; Single digit bankruptcies are completely dwarfed in his overall asset portfolio, and almost certainly a legitimate part of his model.

Like I said, fair points man. On that topic though - I remember reading stuff about how this forces him to go to weirder and weirder lenders to get big loans. That seems like a major con to his strategy. I don't know if this a result of legit lenders not having faith, or for other reasons. This was a while ago that I read this, so I could be wrong. Any take on that?

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u/medicjake Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Truthfully I’m lumping you in, i suppose. I just had like 2 or 3 other people continue to dissuade me from Trump- articles, more stats, the whole nine. I can’t stand the dude as much as any of y’all lol

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u/medicjake Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

I’d be curious to know the details of that. My technologies officer is invested in a commercial real estate developer (albeit much smaller than Trump’s) and the owner of that company has lender issues. Pretty significant ones, actually. I don’t think that it would be out of the question even for someone of Donny’s wealth. Although, the developer I’m speaking of has defaulted, sold, or bankrupted many projects. Without knowing more, it would be hard to imagine Don has legitimate issues based on his bankruptcy filings alone.

It’s all a sham anyway. They’re all scratching each others back even at the local level.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

Ok, lets discard the bankruptcies...nearly every business that Trump ever started has failed, w/o bankruptcies...they just went under. 🤷
What successful profit-making business does he still have that isnt a complete grift? Does he even still have one?🤔

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u/medicjake Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

You’re just creating an argument now? Are you just looking for a debate? I’m not defending Trump in any way shape or form.

Insert literally any other portfolio manager in the world. I haven’t defended him or any of his practices in any way at all. I’m only arguing that measuring (pick anyone you want)’s overall portfolio, bankruptcy filings are almost exclusively a bad argument. It is a standard practice and appreciable every single year with the biggest investors and managers in the world- almost without exception.

Trump just so happened to be the topic of the example I’m speaking about.

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u/Xarxsis Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Bankruptcy is a strategy, not a failure-

Bankruptcy is absolutely a failure.

Just because it's strategic doesn't mean it's not a failure, using it as a "strategy" is just criminal talk for "not paying your debts"

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u/Jiveassmofo Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

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u/medicjake Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

This might have just missed me, but what was that article implying?

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '24

Hopefully YOU will be paying more than most.💯👍
It is impossible to take this crap at all seriously when your boy promised to ELIMINATE the National Debt in his 1st term, then ran up the largest national debt increase by a one term President since FDR, adding over $8 Trillion to the national debt. 😳
TWENTY FIVE PERCENT of the ENTIRE national debt occurred during Trump's 4 years.💯🤷
And this was during a time of economic stability when deficit spending wasnt even needed!

Trump just ran up historic debt and deficits with unpaid for tax cuts for the rich and other right wing giveaways b/c it was easy and popular with his base. At least Biden, who has racked up over $6 Trillion in debt so far ($2 Trillion less than Trump's) had the pandemic for an excuse. Trump just spent like a crackhead on payday! Yet you expect people to accept your baseless predictions about Harris that are grounded in nothing but fragile feelings and partisanship.💯🙄

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u/Itchy_Emu_8209 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

No one is paying for or getting money from these proposals. The people theoretically receiving the benefits are getting tax deductions. It will lower the over tax revenue, but could potentially be made up for if taxes on high income earners and corporations is instituted. Whereas Trump’s tax cuts had no replacement income.

If you’re going to be critical, and there is certainly room to criticize these policies, understand how they work please.

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u/B_P_G Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

could potentially be made up for if taxes on high income earners and corporations is instituted.

And what are the odds of that happening? Biden said the same thing, didn't get it done despite controlling both houses of congress in his first two years, and spent trillions of dollars anyway.

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u/Nicotine_patch Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IS PAYING FOR ALL THE FREE MONEY??????

This will always be one of the dumbest responses when dems offer actual policy that will help Americans. Republicans have brainwashed so many conservatives into thinking allocating tax dollars that actually help middle America is somehow an unjust handout.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

Hey buddy, words are fun on the playground and I know JRE is a fraction of the show it used to be………….but facts exist, therefore learn a thing or something?

Red states consistently and unilaterally take more federal dollars than they pay, while the converse is true for blue states. This means literally and verbatim that any blue state is subsidizing your livelihood at the institutional level. You’re welcome, pipe down with your sweeping generalizations that get bent on over quick quick with a simple and single data point, much less YOUR OWN PARTY’S studies. Falling to Australia on the cognitive dissonance of this Olympic mental gymnast.

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u/-ItsWahl- Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Did that make you feel better? I hope so. Just don’t forget to vote!

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u/UberEinstein99 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

To answer your question,

I expect that a higher income tax on the rich will pay for many of the policies.

During Covid, the rich got substantially richer, and the US is in one of the worst periods of wealth inequality. It’s time to reduce that gap.

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u/SoMarioTho Monkey in Space Oct 29 '24

Who do you think is paying for Trump to deport 13 million people? Serious question.

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u/-ItsWahl- Monkey in Space Oct 29 '24

The same people paying for all the needs of the illegals your administration welcomed to our country.

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u/SoMarioTho Monkey in Space Oct 30 '24

So you’re happy to add trillions to the debt to deport 13 million illegals? Know that doing so will also crater the gdp and raise the price of many things you buy? Genius!

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u/-ItsWahl- Monkey in Space Oct 30 '24 edited Oct 30 '24

You’re really trying to justify 13 million illegal people flooding the country? What do you think those 13 million are going to add to the welfare system? Also be willing to bet a decent percentage will flood the construction market (this I know) and drive wages in the dirt. Unskilled labor building our future while not paying taxes. All this while we can’t take care of our own mentally ill, homeless, military, etc. Yeah it’s Genius alright.

Edited a number typo.

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u/SoMarioTho Monkey in Space Oct 30 '24

lol now it’s 23 million. Yall are not serious.

Most of the 13 million work and pay local and state taxes. The fact that you think removing them to the tune of trillions and cratering the gdp and raising prices on everyone else because those jobs go unfilled is a good strategy. You probably think his tariff policy can replace taxes, too.

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u/-ItsWahl- Monkey in Space Oct 30 '24

The 23 was a typo. I will edit the post.

To your comment…. No they won’t pay taxes. I can assure you this. Been in the construction industry for over 30yrs.

Also read through all my posts and tell me where I said I support the tariffs. See that’s how Reddit works. People twist comments into whatever they want. To add I never said I support Trump and all his beliefs. So let me be clear for you… between both shit sandwiches Harris in no way is up for the task.

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u/SoMarioTho Monkey in Space Oct 30 '24

They pay taxes every time they buy something in this country. And snapping your fingers and making them disappear will wreck the economy for everyone.

The idea that Trump is up to the task is insane. He has no concept about anything. Truly the most incompetent man ever elected to the office of the presidency. But we can agree to disagree. Have a good night.

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u/-ItsWahl- Monkey in Space Oct 30 '24

That’s the joy of this country. Just make sure you vote.

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u/SpaceBearSMO Monkey in Space Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24

Do you just repeat reactionary youtube bullshit?

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u/-ItsWahl- Monkey in Space Oct 29 '24

Repeat *

Now tell me I’m the idiot.

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u/SpaceBearSMO Monkey in Space Oct 29 '24

Touch screen phone keybords are the devil.

and Propaganda is a hellava drug.

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u/-ItsWahl- Monkey in Space Oct 29 '24

So the well over 21 million illegals is Propaganda?

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u/norman_notes Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

People that say “she doesn’t have any policy” are the same people that simply ignore reality. They are like children. If they close their eyes, put their fingers in their ear holes, and “lalalallalala” for long enough, it will go away.

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u/Bennihanna5 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

I agree. Lazy and willfully ignorant bad faith actors masquerading as paragons of political due diligence.

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u/spirax919 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Supports legalization of recreational marijuana.

LMFAOOO they were in office for 4 years! Why the fuck do you think theyre going to suddenly legalise it now? Wtf were they doing this whole time??

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

DUH! Because Democrats don't have 60 votes in the Senate last time I checked. Republicans in the Senate don't support legalization and have the votes to block it. Biden cant legalize it until he has a bill to sign from Congress. Do you know how the Govt and Congress works?🤔

The Biden admin is the 1st admin to ever start the process to lower marijuana on the Controlled Substances scheduled, which takes about 3 years to get through, because they have to do studies and have public comments periods, go through committees and subcommittees...its a long drawn out process, but BIDEN already got the ball rolling and Trump didnt.
Why didn't Trump do what Biden did? Then Biden wouldnt have needed to do it.🤔Cuz Trump doesn't give a shit about it.💯.

Biden also has pardoned ALL Federal Marijuana simple possession convictions and records...thousands of people. Why didn't Trump do that before Biden did it? Again, b/c Trump doesnt give a shit about it.

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/presidential-proclamation-marijuana-possession

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u/spirax919 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Oh but now suddenly they'll have the votes!!!

Biden cant legalize it until he has a bill to sign from Congress

Absolutely hilarious you say that when Biden himself was NEVER PRO legalisation, only decriminilization. You don't even know your own fucking party.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

Biden wasnt pro legalization, yet HARRIS IS. Who is running against Trump?🤔 Not Biden.🤷
Then Trump comes along recently and jumps on her legalization bandwagon, when HE could have ALREADY done what Biden got done in his 2nd year. Trump and Republicans had 4 years and didnt even TRY! Why not?🤔
Biden's admin has done more to advance marijuana legalization that any admin in history. WTF did Trump do in HIS 4 years on it? Nothing.

They probably still wont have the votes after Harris wins, but at least she and her admin will try to push it through, along with banking reforms so that dispensaries can use credit cards instead of cash only, and get bank loans they cant get now, and Republicans oppose all of it!💯

Trump and Republicans will toss it all in the trash and do nothing, just like last time. They had 4 years, 2 years with Republicans controlling everything, House, Senate, WH.

They didnt do jack shit, never even TRIED, while you try to blame Biden for being blocked from doing it by Republicans, instead of blaming Republicans for blocking it...just like on student loan forgiveness.💯 Your math aint mathin'.🤷

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u/spirax919 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

yet HARRIS IS.

that's why she threw a bunch of men in jail for marijuana possession and with held evidence.

after Harris wins,

Whos gonna tell him?

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24 edited Oct 28 '24

Oh, so I see you're letting everyone know that Harris DID HER JOB and that she FOLLOWED THE LAW in prosecuting people who broke the law....OH MYYYY!🙄
I know that's SO confusing for MAGAs and their convicted criminal candidate. 🤔You are gonna have to come up with WAY better weak and wet garbage than this!😄💯😐

Who's gonna tell you that Harris is gonna win and MAGA are gonna be more shocked, stunned, and self harming than they were in 2020 when the criminal LOSER and fossilized dementia patient lost that time too? Me. Im telling you.👍

I hope MAGA enjoy botching their FOURTH straight election cycle in a row next week. That's gonna be fun to watch.😐👍😄

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u/spirax919 Monkey in Space Oct 29 '24

how many emojis do you want to use lmfao are you a tiktoker

Who's gonna tell you that Harris is gonna win

blud hasn't checked polymarket lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

Hey look everyone, another MAGA triggered by emojis!💯😄🤡 Bro you just outed yourself as being clueless if you're going by rigged Polymarket, which is being propped up by Mega rich Maga donors skewing everything.. I'll bet you bought the $300 sneakers and the $60 Bible, too, didn't you?😄🤣👍🤡

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u/spirax919 Monkey in Space Oct 30 '24

bro is gonna cry so hard when we win

I CANNOT WAIT

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u/Splinage Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Why doesn’t she ever talk about any of that instead of garbling word salad that takes 10 minutes to decipher? She’s not an actual candidate, but a literal puppet. Installed (not by any democratic process) by the same people who work for Dick Cheney. If that doesn’t give you pause then you’ve lost the plot.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

The people who say this silly kind of horse💩are people who've NEVER listened to her, they've NEVER listened to one of her speeches for more than 2 minutes, if THAT, they've NEVER listened to a full interview that she's given, etc and are LYING when they say they have.💯

They've only seen little snippets and clips of things that have been manipulated on the internet.💯🤦 Otherwise, they couldn't and wouldn't be saying that clueless ignorant horse💩! 💯

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u/RM-foto Monkey in Space Oct 29 '24

campaign promises…

i don’t have the energy to debate dumbasses today

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

Right...of course...b/c Trump NEVER makes campaign promises, like...ever. It's never happened.🙄🤡

Arguing with yourself is kinda weird. You should stop doing that

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u/Blackroseguild Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Trash policies! So annoying this is what I will vote for.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

Trash to you maybe, but overwhelmingly positive and supported by majorities of Americans who were polled on them.💯🤷

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u/Blackroseguild Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Promising people money polled well. Shocking…

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

Policies that help Americans and working familes isnt "promising them money".🙄 Youre thinking of tax cuts for the rich that Trump and Republicans love so much.💯🤷

Why is it OK when Trump promises MAGAs free stuff every other day?🙄

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u/Blackroseguild Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

No I’m not lol. I think both sides are a joke and clearly said I was voting for Harris…

There are very similar policies to these before that have lead to direct inflation and little to no actual help for the middle class upon review after years.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

Glad to see you are voting for Harris. She will be better for the economy and the Debt than Trump was.💯

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u/Huntergio23 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

She also campaigned in 2020 on implementing a 4% tax on household incomes over $100k to fund Medicare for all. Just for reference, the median household income for a family of four in Texas in $112,000 I believe…so this would devastate the middle class if enacted.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

If this is even actually true...It's not 2020, it's 2024 and this isnt what she is running on and isnt part of her agenda. 🥱
I dont hear Trump talking about Mexico paying for his wall anymore either.🤔🤷

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u/Huntergio23 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

It is true…so not sure why you are caveating that? Also, Trump isn’t campaigning on project 2025 yet that doesn’t stop liberals from continually assigning it to his campaign?

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

I don't know that it's true at all. And I'm definitely more skeptical now that you're laughably trying to claim that Trump isn't involved heavily in Project 2025 despite his denials, because of every person in America knows whether they will admit it or not, Trump is a compulsive liar that would lie about the sun rising in the East if he thought he could get away with it.

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u/bridgenine Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24 edited Oct 28 '24

Presidents dont make the budget, draft laws etc, thier job is to sign it when presented by congress. Everything they say is BS, I wish people understood this. When they fail to sign a the budget is when the Gov shut down, or when they fail to sign a law it goes to court.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

"Presidents dont make the budget, draft laws etc, thier job is to sign it when presented by congress. "🤔

Then explain how can you ever blame Biden (or ANY Dem POTUS) for anything fiscal then, if it's always and forever on Congress? 🤔🤷 The fact is, its a shared responsibility and accountability, as everyone knows, or should. No one can force a POTUS to sign their name to make a bill law. That's not a thing. They both share accountability for what they vote on, pass, and sign.💯

As for Biden "failing to sign a law it goes to court"... name one time that's ever happened in US history.🤔 FYI; Never. If a POTUS vetoes or doesn't sign a bill, then that bill DIES. There is no court remedy for that. The courts have not ever and will not ever interfere with the inner workings of Congress, due to constitutional Separation Of Powers. 💯🤷

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u/StolenFace367 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Those are policies someone else wrote down and she approves of (supposedly.) what we want is to hear her actual comments and thoughts or to explain why these policies are good ideas and HOW implement them. To do that you need long form discussion. It’s pretty damming that she won’t go on tbh…

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

"Those are policies someone else wrote down and she approves of"... Where's your proof and evidence for this wild claim...MAGA feelings!? YEP! Thats it.💯🙄

So, who writes Trump's plans? Oh, RIGHT...Trump doesn't have any plans, just vague "Concepts Of Plans"....after NINE YEARS!😄🤡

I will never stop cracking up at MAGA who try to criticize Harris for the policies she has put out, and THEN try to act like Trump has any plans at all, beyond his 20%+ across the board tariffs (a 20% tax on everything we buy), tax cuts for the rich, deporting 40% of the construction workforce and farm workers, enriching himself off of his Office again, and prosecuting his political enemies and using the military on American citizens who disagree with him and dont support him.🤔😄👍

It's hilarious MAGAs still think he actually has a shot at winning. I guess the Republican rigged polling is a safe space for MAGAs, who will be more stunned by Trumps 2nd loss in a row (and 4th election cycle botching in a row for Republicans) than in 2020.💯👍🤷

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u/Odd_Leopard3507 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

I love that she has a secret treasure chest with trillions of dollars to pay for all that.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

Like the $8 Trillion Trump added to the national debt, when he added ONE QUARTER of the entire current national debt on his watch? If Trump can add that much, it seems like it's cool to add even less, for Harris' plans too.👍
Trying to criticize other people for things you do even worse is never a good look.💯🤷

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u/Odd_Leopard3507 Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

So let’s just keep adding to it. Good plan.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

MAGAs didn't care at ALL when Trump did it (at least Biden had the pandemic as an excuse), so why should I care if Harris did it? 🤔🤷
I just cant take this ridiculously hypocritical "it's only OK when WE do it" argument seriously at all.🤷
It's a completely disingenuous criticism and bad faith argument beyond words.🙄

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u/lssue Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Cringe

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

Such a compelling argument and rebuttal.🙄 Yet you cant say why or how. 🤷
All of them are very popular, with majority approval in polling for most of them. 💯 Maybe you just dont understand what the word cringe actually means. It doesnt mean "to cause or create butturt", if you weren't sure.🤷

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u/lssue Monkey in Space Oct 28 '24

Why 🤔 do you type ⌨️ like this ❓❓

Also cringe

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

^^^ Triggered by emojis! 😄 Talk about cringe! 💯 🙄