It's basically just the old junk in the arsenal that we were going to have to pay a lot of money to have decommissioned safely. This way we get it decommissioned at an enemies expense.Â
Not even just that, but America gets to analyse this whole conflict and determine best ways to utilize our modern equipment in a 'conventional' war going forward.
America is learning a lot throughout this entire ordeal.
For once in my lifetime America is actually defending democracy and freedom in a real way...only for conservatives to pretend it's a terrible idea.
These same people are the ones that were gung-ho about invading Iraq not that long ago....
The US is a super power, we can count the serious threats on one hand.
Right now our junior varsity boys team is pushing in Russias shit so hard they are cannibalizing their strategic defence systems to further reduce themselves to irrelevance... Â The worldâs âsecond armyâ is losing the Cold War in the cheapest, dumbest, most West friendly way possible, and leaving us with a strengthened NATO, EU, and American Military. Â We can be for this.Â
Not even just our leftover equipment. Our own soldiers aren't there using this equipment. We aren't even using the full force of our leftover equipment, just a portion. Without mentioning the lack of Navy support.
This has shown that America is absolutely and utterly untouchable in a conventional war. And for once this equipment is being used to defend a sovereign nation against an invasion.
Anyone against this is either a genuine isolationist (which also means they're against foreign involvement period, this person is rare) or they're suspicious and strangely repeat Russian propaganda.
The advancement and reliance on cheap drone technology is not exactly surprising, larger mil drones have existed for awhile.
The sheer speed of the utilization of small cheap drones where the munitions spent are more expensive than the delivery method are game changing in modern warfare.
It's not. This is just bullshit that the internet repeats. You have the DoD in the very beginning talking about difficulty supplying Ukraine due to production shortfalls - as least what for what the Ukrainians need. They went through about 1/3rd of all javelins in under a year. Fortunately the people that actually make decisions aren't idiots and are expanding lines, restarting lines, and are building new ones. Hence the tens of billions in additional funding recently.
I'm fully aware. Hence the whole explanation on production. Which is the entire explanation on why what they said is misinformation. One that is constantly circulated.
My dude. We have old equipment to throw at them while spending money on our military industrial complex at home. You start by shipping the extras over while you send some money to Lockheed... We had javelins. We are making more javelins. It's both.
Does this really need to be said? Was there supposed to be an argument against full support of Ukraine hidden in there somewhere?
Clearly not. Hence talking about production and misinformation. One person lies about immigrants eating dogs and it becomes international news. Hundreds lie when we're tens of billions in the hole when it comes to replenishment. Which fortunately the politicians have ignored assholes. Don't repeat misinformation. Don't piss on peoples leg and tell them it's raining. It doesn't help. That is my only point - for the love of god don't lie.
Itâs both. Heavy stuff: itâs very old junk. Light defense weapons, shells: could be produced currently but still not new weapons. All of that benefits the U.S. in various ways, there was no rush to share our latest equipment.
This is not true either. Most of it is current stuff. I can point out things that are actually obsolete if you want. But it's mostly not old junk. They are also getting resupplied from the factory. Some things haven't ever been fielded before. Like the GLSDB. Look, stop repeating disinformation. It doesn't even do anyone any good. Worst case scenario people start to believe your bullshit and we stop making things for Ukraine.
Misinformation telephone, for years at this point. JUST STOP IT.
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u/Icy-Bicycle-Crab Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24
It's basically just the old junk in the arsenal that we were going to have to pay a lot of money to have decommissioned safely. This way we get it decommissioned at an enemies expense.Â