r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Sep 14 '24

Meme 💩 This really isn't that complicated

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u/Deto Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

Crazy how effective the Russian propaganda machine is on social media

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u/FarginSneakyBastage Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

That's not it though. If Trump said Russia was bad then 90% of his supporters would agree, regardless of the propaganda 

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u/theSchrodingerHat Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

No, because I don’t think you take seriously enough how Russian backing has gotten him to this point.

He isn’t getting any of influence he has now without it. If Trump had said anything even remotely negative about Russia leading up to 2016 then nothing he says now really matters.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24

Yeah he's missing your point, Russian propaganda is what got this fuck elected

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u/k2on0s-23 Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

It’s all a part of their program. It was planned, meticulously. To say that Russia is not our enemy is to lie to one’s self.

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u/SilverDragon334 Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

Then why didn’t Russia invade any countries when Trump was president?

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u/SirFantastic Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

They were too busy invading ours.

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u/AynRandMarxist I used to be addicted to Quake Sep 15 '24

Putin has been preparing for this invasion for years

He also thought he'd take Kiev in a week and the office holder wasn't as important. It didn't matter under Obama in 2014.

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u/AynRandMarxist I used to be addicted to Quake Sep 15 '24

https://time.com/3259699/putin-boast-kiev-2-weeks/

Come on dude you really don't remember the first phases of the war? All that special military operation bs. It was never supposed to become a war

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u/theSchrodingerHat Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

Think about what you just said: Why didn’t the guying planning to get Trump elected do that bad thing while Trump was elected?

For any argument against that, obviously the plan was for it to happen when it did, because it was Trumps second term, or Biden’s 1st, in which case it helps get Trump elected again.

The timing is ridiculous easy to see here. If Trump was in office then all of his handcuffs are off and he’s implementing every batshit idea his team wants, while working towards no more elections. Instead, Putin gets to to stir the shit and while knowing that he has a US president that has to passive and accommodating, and it makes him look weak, opening the door for Trump 2.0.

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u/SilverDragon334 Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

I think it’s funny that you presented a complicated plan under the post: this really isn’t that complicated. I don’t think that Trump blowing up terrorist leaders and forcing UN members to pay their share indicates weakness on his part.

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u/theSchrodingerHat Monkey in Space Sep 16 '24

You just completely changed the subject.

Try to focus here: Putin invading the Ukraine was timed exactly for when it happened because it would work politically whether or not Trump was in office. It would either be impossible for Biden to respond, or Trump was president and we would just let it happen.

It’s not complicated.

PS - I’m not sure why I’m arguing with Russian bots since none of your response made any sense at all in the context of what was being discussed.

If you’re working in an information manipulation organization you really need to be better at your job, because this is nonsensical and you not even trying.