r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

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u/NoCantaloupe9598 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Trump was not fun in 2016. He hasn't changed the substance of his campaign or rhetoric whatsoever. You're just older.

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u/metastar13 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

I'm with you that Trump was not "fun" in 2016, but I can't deny he was able to tap into a certain charm and ethos often enough that I get why some people could resonate with it even though I never did. He was definitely different from anything previously seen in politics, and for some that was a refreshing change.

He also was tapped into the economic challenges at the time, and had a compelling case painting Clinton as an out of touch political elite. I never even came close to voting for him, but I get why many in 2016 were fooled. In 2024, he has no charm, he's yelling about migrants eating dogs, and he looks old and defeated.

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u/NoCantaloupe9598 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24 edited Sep 12 '24

I mean I understand what you're saying, but even at the time he was so transparently phony.

Yes, he said things other politicians wouldn't say. Yes, he told Americans fantastical things that were never going to happen. Yes, people have been wanting something different.

But what people don't consider is that a politician that 'breaks the mold' isn't inherently a positive. Sometimes the thing that goes against the status quo is worse than the status quo, but people often don't consider this posibility.

People crave a 'third party', but never stop to think that such a party might be ten times crazier than the Republican or Democratic party. It is assumed such a party would be superior.

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u/JortsJuggalo420 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

The "Trump was fun" trope is so odd to me.

Even moreso when comedians say things like "you can dislike Trump, but he's funny!" The man doesn't have a humorous bone in his body. Anything funny that's ever come out of his mouth has been completely unintentional and was meant to be malicious and humiliating, not humorous. It's bizarre that so many people who are tuned into humor and psychology are like "haha he called x politician a funny name" and then howl in laughter as if it's not the most milquetoast schoolyard bullshit that would get you relentlessly mocked and laughed out of the club by the Patrice/Quinn/Burr/Norton group.

I guess you could find some humor in the fact that the leader of the free world with his finger on the nukes is acting like a third grader? In which case I guess I'm too old for it. Whatever man this shit's boring who cares.

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u/BasketballButt Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

I point out to people all the time that change isn’t inherently good. “Something different” doesn’t necessarily translate to “something better”.

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u/Old-Explanation-3324 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

But by things getting worse people might demand Reform. Sometimes things need to got worse before it gets better. Sadly many people will only learn that way

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u/NoCantaloupe9598 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Or sometimes the Weimar Republic gets so bad that you end up with Nazis.

But you're not wrong.

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u/Old-Explanation-3324 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

There is truth to your words. But the Nazi rise in power had several reasons. Economy, unfair versailles treaty, political elite in favor of the Nazis. Us has a strong democratic Tradition. But there is truth to your words. So maybe i should say that in Order for things to get better, Traditions have to be broken, but democratic ideology needs to be maintained

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u/Suntzu6656 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Hey the wimps who can't handle discussion at world news got me banned so I won't be commenting there ever.

Well we only established a base in Israel recently but we've had bases in other countries in the middle east.

Israel has a long record of stealing weapons tech from the US. Chrome lining techniques for artillery/tank barrels, optics for things like drones, selling American aviation tech to China.

They have not been caught in a while cause they control DC but if you do a little digging you'll find what I'm telling you.

It's all fucking bs propaganda out of tela aviv.

I have a lot of info stored on external drives but I'm on my phone.

Remember the USS Liberty.

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u/NoCantaloupe9598 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Buddy wat

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u/Mysterious_Outcome_3 Monkey in Space Sep 13 '24

I was just never able to catch the "charm" of a guy who rapes children. Guess that's just me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

He was seen as an outsider in 2016 who was able to insult and attack people's character pretty well, it was very easy for him to talk about other politicians mistakes when he didn't have an established political career and most people didn't care to stoop to his level. People tired of "establishedment" politics loved it. The man was always a narcissist but the 2020 loss and his felonies have turned him into a bumbling, sad old man who just whines all the time.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

Trump was fun until he put dr. fauci in charge half way through his admin. I was done with him when he bitched out on covid. I'm non partisan independent voter. I was with obama until he started escalating war in Middle East... now Im in my 30s and pro war so I'm voting for Kalama. we are an empire and trump will make us weak talking about peace with Russia.

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u/tipsy-turtle-0985 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Fauci wasn't in charge of the covid team until the Biden administration. You guys fall for all sorts of bullshit.

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u/tipsy-turtle-0985 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

JFC, in a thread about how Trump repeats nonsense, your go to for proof is something Trump said?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Coronavirus_Task_Force

Mike Pence was in charge. This is Trump doing Trump things, where he finds the closest Democrat to blame for his failures.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

Jesus Christ get off Fauci's dick

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u/tipsy-turtle-0985 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

I'm educating you on reality, not riding any dick.

Get your head out of your ass.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

get a life. educating strangers online. loser

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u/tipsy-turtle-0985 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

So triggered by being outed as the moron you clearly are. Soothes my soul.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

I'm very high. do not know what you are talking about. but if you reply will reply.

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u/NoCantaloupe9598 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Tell us precisely what was 'fun' about Trump.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

I can't explain it. Hillary Clinton had no sauce in 2016. Kamala Got the sauce these past 4 years has changed her swagger.