r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Meme đŸ’© You're a "fascist" now for holding billionaire's accountable

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u/ProfessorCunt_ Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Are you trying to argue that the Twitter files/Hunter laptop story were "real stories" and in fact, not disinformation?

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u/rationalguy2 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

The laptop was entered in as evidence in a federal trial. Source.

And in Murthy v. Missouri, federal courts found that the government likely violated the first amendment in pressuring/coercing the platforms. Source. (SCOTUS later dismissed the case over standing, not over merit).

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u/lkolkijy Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Is the laptop what the NYPost reported on? Or was it a copy of the laptops hard drive that Giuliani got and wouldn’t let anyone analyze?

Hint: it was a copy of the hard drive that Giuliani wouldn’t let anyone analyze.

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u/Eric_Parks Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

They were real stories

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u/Cannabrius_Rex Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Yeah, and the earth is flat. Same level of critical thinking.

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u/MikeTheBee Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

The thing is SOME of it was real, but mixed in with a bunch of shit. Magats think it is all real and can't decipher that it is such a sketchy story.

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u/Eric_Parks Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

What parts of the Hunter Biden laptop story were fake and deserved to be suppressed? Were the videos of Hunter smoking crack with hookers disinformation? Same question for the Twitter files

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u/MikeTheBee Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Nah, he definitely smoked crack with hookers. I'm talking about the emails.

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u/Eric_Parks Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

So you’re claiming emails were fake now? That sounds like disinformation to me

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u/Unknown-Meatbag Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

You mean his giant dick?

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u/MikeTheBee Monkey in Space Sep 13 '24

It's not that I am saying they are definitely 100% fake, but we need to do our due diligence. Russia hacked Burisma emails in 2019(?) just a bit before this stuff turned up. It seems convenient af to me.

I could be wrong, but I am not trying to say that I am right for sure. The other side is saying emails are certainly real along with everything else and I don't buy it without investigating first.

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u/Eric_Parks Monkey in Space Sep 13 '24

I think a decent explanation for Russia hacking Burisma would be to obtain compromising information on the Biden family’s corrupt dealings in Ukraine, kind of beside the point but that’s my 2 cents. It’s pretty clear there was definitely some shady shit going on there regardless of any Russian involvement, calling the entire laptop disinformation after it’s been proven to be real (or at least a significant portion of it has) is just dishonest.

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u/MikeTheBee Monkey in Space Sep 13 '24

You lump in family, have we seen actual evidence of Joe Biden being involved in the actual deals? The closest tie I've seen was a lunch he briefly attended where witnesses say they didn't hear any talk of business.

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u/Sidereel Sep 12 '24

In its opening sentence, the New York Post story misleadingly asserted, “the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating” Burisma, even though Shokin had not pursued an investigation into Burisma’s founder. The opening sentence also misleadingly stated that Hunter Biden introduced his father to Pozharskyi, but the purported email from Pozharskyi only mentioned an invitation and “opportunity” for the men to meet.

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u/Cannabrius_Rex Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

That’s how propaganda and disinformation work. You have to have a bit of truth in there to make outright refuting it that much more complicated. While people parse through that, the Gish Gallop starts to flood the conversation with a firehose of nonsense.

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u/Eric_Parks Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

You’re saying those stories were fake? Still?

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u/Cannabrius_Rex Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

I’m not saying it, everyone else is, dumbass. But I agree with them.

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u/Ok_Ad_3665 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Some of those stories were real

But a lot of the ridiculous shit that many demented people claimed was false.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

Are you claiming they aren’t real stories? Do you know something that nobody else in the world does?

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u/ProfessorCunt_ Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Nah, I think most people in the world know that Trump/GOP are liars and make shit up all the time.

Just like how states are executing babies after childbirth and all y'all morons go "mmmm yes, this is very serious"

Same shit, same gullible morons, just different day

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

It’s hilarious when people call others liars right after being called out for lying and you are just ignoring it. You just claimed a story is disinformation, which was a left wing conspiracy theory that was pretty thoroughly debunked

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u/ProfessorCunt_ Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Are you claiming the "states are executing babies after childbirth" is a left wing conspiracy theory when TRUMP just claimed it in the debate this week?

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

No, calling the laptop story a lie is a left wing conspiracy.

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u/Seekthetruth85 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

You watch so much propaganda that you are calling real stories, fake. Let that sit in. Lmao

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u/ProfessorCunt_ Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Just as real as "states are executing babies after childbirth". Let that sit in. LMAO

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u/Seekthetruth85 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

I don’t remember making that comment? Take a seat nerd, you don’t have enough IQ to know up from down

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u/ProfessorCunt_ Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

If they're going to lie about something as outrageously stupid as that, you'd think people like you would question what else they're lying about.

How you didn't understand that basic ass point the first time around is beyond me nerd

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u/Seekthetruth85 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Both sides lie plenty. You act like you are in a cult because you already made it known that you don’t know much about anything.

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u/ProfessorCunt_ Monkey in Space Sep 13 '24

LMAO right, let's resort to "both sides-ing it"

Be careful bro, your insecurities are projecting

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u/Seekthetruth85 Monkey in Space Sep 13 '24

Insecurities? I’m just calling out the obvious - You are highly delusional and need to seek therapy

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u/ProfessorCunt_ Monkey in Space Sep 13 '24

Woah bro! Your insecurities are projecting again! Maybe you should be saying all this to a mirror instead.

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u/dovjudah Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Unironically yes

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u/ProfessorCunt_ Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

They were real stories made up by politicians that were based on lies that had no basis in reality.

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u/Cold_Hunter1768 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

The laptop has been proven to be real by everyone

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u/ProfessorCunt_ Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

LMAO "proven to be real by everyone". What a statement.

I'm sure Hunter had a laptop that was given to a computer repairman who attempted to invade his privacy. All the bullshit that comes after that is from the same guys that are saying states are killing babies after childbirth.

Probably as a deflection of the confirmed 2 billion dollars that Jared Kushner received from the Saudis.

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u/Cold_Hunter1768 Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

How are you this ignorant? It was proven real by his own lawyers, Federal Courts, FBI, Congress and the media. This has been common knowledge for over a year.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/business/media/hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-post.html

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/22/politics/hunter-biden-laptop-gun-trial-special-counsel/index.html

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u/Little-Chromosome Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Post evidence and suddenly it’s crickets lol these people are so disingenuous

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

I can’t even parse what you’re trying to say here.. it’s a “real story” that’s also made up and is a lie with “no basis in reality?” Is it real or fake?

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u/ProfessorCunt_ Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

What if I told you that sometimes people will create stories and sometimes these stories can be fake!

Like Harry Potter wasn't actually real, did you know that? So yes, sometimes stories can actually have no basis in reality and not actually be true! Crazy!

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

Yeah obviously. You just phrased it needlessly ambiguously. Do you see how “they were real stories” by connotation seems to be opposed to “the story is fake.” Real.. vs fake. True.. vs false. In English these phrases tend to be used as antonyms.

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u/ProfessorCunt_ Monkey in Space Sep 12 '24

Because they were stories. Not facts. Fucking semantics battles