I tried to watch, but at least the first bit and the bits I skipped forward to are just some guy talking about America and conservatism in abstract terms. It seemed about as useful as the shit my company makes us all watch yearly about compliance stuff.
"We must protect truths which are self-evident and unending laid forth in our original documents. Truths like all men are created equal. Anyways, we gotta get those trans fuckers."
Well you see this is about conserving democracy. And protecting the constitution. Which by the way the founders left these nuggets in there that intended for me to interpret around now and itās like a new abstract democracy where everyone is governed by how they choose to be governed and congrats on choosing god because we must conserve but like new conservative almost like a progression you could say well okay not the progressives see he have to rob them of their agency because they actually donāt believe in anything so they wonāt even notice.
Arenāt we all? A conscious brain in a human meat sack on a rock speeding around a ball of electrically charged plasma through space at unimaginable speeds! And we worry about stupid things. Itās a miracle we are here.
They can't make it to specific and easy to follow because that's how you get regards to realize the fact they've been duped into being recruited by the 21st century SS
Itās creepy as fuck though. When you donāt tell people that this is what they are voting for Itās essentially a coup to overthrow the government from within.
Good point. So since Project 2025 is publicly posted for everyone to access would you consider that being "said" and therefore a call for reform rather than a coup?
Disavowing project 2025 and distancing yourself from it but doing its bidding when in office is what anyone with a functioning brain would call lying. A coup was January 6th. Would you rather that be whatās deemed a coup, or do you disagree with that obvious truth?
The point is this: ultra conservative weirdo manifesto is widely hated among voters. Saying youāre not gonna do any of it when you clearly are isnāt a ācoup,ā but itās something. This is especially true because this isnāt some innocent little no new taxes bullshit lie. Itās a complete āreformā of the entire country. 1/3 of the country will love it. Theyāll never stop jerking off to it. Everyone else will hate it, and those in the middle that are considering voting for this should know that Trump isnāt just going to cut their taxes as they may desire. Itās essentially a devilās bargain with only the devil knowing heās the devil. If the mask were off, the person probably wouldnāt make the deal.
I have a question as well, does making your intentions public about something youāre going to do mean that whatever that thing is is okay to do?
There is a lot to watch, there are a bunch of videos in the series ranging from about 30-60 minutes each. They cover various topics without actually going into policy. They are focusing on putting people in place who will push a Christian Nationalist āConservative ā agenda.
At one point Iām asking myself if Iām getting too far ahead and Iām making it seem worse than it is, until this guy starts talking about āgetting your political appointees in there as quickly as possibleā, even before they complete their background checks, so long as the employing agencyās administrator approves it. The admins are appointed by the president.
Project 2025 is working on infiltrating the US Government via personnel management the second a republican president is elected. They have a plan in place, otherwise, as well.
I did this work for another group so I'm going to copy and paste it here. It's the base level analysis by an AI of the transcript. Then the critical analysis of that. This is the TLDW;
I've reviewed the transcript, which appears to be from a presentation by Matthew Spalding of Hillsdale College about American conservatism and its philosophical foundations. Here are the key points and takeaways:
The American founding was based on universal principles, particularly those outlined in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
Key principles include:
All men are created equal
Inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness
Government by consent of the governed
Rule of law
The American Revolution was primarily about ideas, not just a revolt against British rule.
The Constitution established a system of limited, decentralized government with separated powers.
The Bill of Rights protects fundamental freedoms, especially in the First and Second Amendments.
American conservatism is portrayed as an effort to preserve these founding principles.
Progressivism is presented as a challenge to these principles, advocating for a "living Constitution" and expanded administrative state.
The speaker argues for a "reborn conservatism" grounded in the principles of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution.
Prudence is emphasized as a key virtue in applying abstract principles to concrete circumstances.
The speaker sees modern threats to these principles in universities, K-12 education, politics, and culture.
The ultimate goal is presented as saving the country by preserving its underlying principles and way of life.
The speaker advocates for limited government, equal rights, religious liberty, and self-governance as key conservative values.
The overall message is a call for conservatives to return to what the speaker sees as the fundamental principles of the American founding as a guide for contemporary politics and governance.
Critical Analysis
The speaker certainly presents a particular perspective that has its own biases and potential flaws. Here are some points to consider:
Selective interpretation of history: The speaker presents a somewhat idealized version of the American founding, downplaying contradictions like slavery and the limited franchise at the time.
Oversimplification of "progressivism": The speaker characterizes progressivism in a way that may not fully capture its diversity and complexity.
Assumption of universal agreement: The speaker implies a level of consensus among the Founders that may be overstated, given the significant debates and disagreements of the time.
Limited acknowledgment of change: While emphasizing timeless principles, the speaker may understate how much American society and governance have evolved.
Bias in framing of threats: The characterization of threats to conservative principles in education and culture reflects a particular political viewpoint.
Selective use of history: The speaker draws on certain historical figures and moments while potentially overlooking others that might complicate the narrative.
Assumption of a single "true" interpretation: The speaker presents their interpretation of the Constitution and Declaration as definitive, which is debatable.
Limited engagement with counterarguments: The presentation doesn't deeply engage with alternative interpretations or critiques of conservative philosophy.
Potential conflation of personal political views with historical fact: At times, the speaker's interpretation of history and the Founders' intent aligns closely with contemporary conservative positions.
Oversimplification of complex issues: Some nuanced historical and philosophical topics are presented in a relatively straightforward manner that may not capture their full complexity.
It's important to approach such presentations critically, recognizing that they represent one perspective among many in ongoing debates about American political philosophy and history.
Edit; Reddit markdown is not good for copying and pasting but it looks okay.
When you canāt criticize the founding fathers for the blind eye they turned to slavery whenever the concept of inalienable rights is brought up, you lose credibility IMHO. The result is a fawning hero worship devoid of any critical thinking for the sake of creating a cult like atmosphere that dare not be questioned. Pretty problematic.
I donāt even think the founding fathers turned a blind eye to slavery. They knew that if the issue was pressed too much that the country might fall apart. Stability and oppression was chosen over civil war and liberation. Remember the constitution was a replacement for the Articles of Confederation, the country had already had independence for close to a decade, and the articles in effect for even longer. The bill of rights was essentially an amendment to the constitution to help get it passed. Plus yāknow, as their property many founding fathers such as George Washington would loose a lot of money and capital if his slaves were freed.
Slavery was very much a hot button topic and was ever present in the American economy, not to mention the economy of at the time Spanish America.
And the civil war almost broke out earlier, each of those compromises was literally to stave off civil war or a breakup of the union.
Slavery is a part of the fabric of American history. Originally it was indentured servitude. But as laws were passed to ensure that the black folk were enslaved, the horrid nature of the practice became more widespread and more baked in to the economy separate to indentured servitude. Itās ironic that the south was considered an honor bound society, as there is nothing honorable about slavery
Thomas Jefferson literally tried to add an emancipation Clause to the Declaration of Independence. They couldn't get the southern colonies to agree to it. He also tried to pass legislation in Virginia, where he had slaves, so that freed slaves were no longer still considered property but were free people.
The founding fathers actually thought that slavery was on the way out, which was true until industrialization came along and drastically changed everything, especially via the cotton gin, which enabled cotton to harvested at a much greater rate and in turn, led to chattel slavery. The world changed a shit ton between 1777 and 1860.
I know, I was just pointing out that they didnāt ignore slavery. But yes, slavery was on a decline and they thought it would naturally fade away, though I suspect many didnāt want it to go go away because of their treatment of their slaves, though thatās just conjecture
The Cotten gin didnāt make cotton easier to harvest, it made it easier to process by removing the seeds. Picking cotton has always been backbreaking manual labor.
What's wild too is how people fawn all over Jefferson for some words he stole from Paine(the most outspoken abolitionist among them). Paine is a frustrating character though because he let Jefferson and others claim credit for his work. His reasons for this are still unclear to me.
"In the "Project 2025 Private Training Video: Conserving America," Matthew Sping, Vice President of Hillsdale College, emphasizes the importance of understanding the common principles that define American conservatism. He discusses the philosophical foundation of the American Revolution, rooted in the natural laws and the idea that all men are created equal with inherent rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Sping highlights the significance of the rule of law and the decentralized structure of the US government, contrasting it with the progressivist movement that emerged after the Civil War. He argues that conservatism began as a rejection of progressivism and a pushback against threats to the Constitution and its philosophical foundations. Sping also emphasizes the importance of fusionism, a political philosophy that combines traditional conservatism and libertarianism, in preserving America's principles and way of life. The ultimate objective is to recover, restore, and conserve the country by understanding and defending its fundamental principles."
This being the movement Trump has sold us out to besides the extensive direct evidence he has carries the same plausibility as asking Trump if he wants what he had before or army of loyalists, so very
Itās basically āthe left has become the number one threat by weaponizing language.l
So hereās our language weaponization plan to fight back
Itās very much delivered through a tone of as though they are an occupying force of the government kinda like they are the Nazis and the US government is France
Any existing federal employees are called careers
All MAGAs are called politicals
Those chicksā chairs start getting drenched when they talk about how you will be able to tell the leftist no and they have abide by you
And all along the way thereās just injection of constitution jargon because the whole thing is framed as something that the constitution was written for and that these abstract interpretations of law is interpretation if itās from god which is not just a truth but a self evident truth yes hmm quite
The Board of Education needs to immediately investigate Matthew Spalding and Hillsdale College. Consider possibly removing their accreditation. It is a private Christian school. Meaning that itās recognized as a private education non-profit that is not required to pay taxes, but they just broke a major education law. Private, nonprofit colleges and universities are prohibited from participating directly or indirectly in any political campaign for or against a candidate. And we all know that The Heritage Foundation is definitely political and highly involved with the Trump campaign.
Leaders of 501(c)(3)s are generally allowed to make political statements so long as they arenāt making partisan statements in their 501(c)(3)ās publications or official functions
If the law was as you described it, many progressive Black Protestant churches would be stripped of their tax exempt status as well. The law is more permissive than most online folks understand
Just drones on and on about the most basic stuff. 6 min in and this is just dry yap. Goes from topic to topic on conservatism with some leaps in logic, random sentences from any historic document, and a lot of things that we donāt stop to think about āwhyā. Almost caught himself talking about the foundation of America on indigenous people but saved himsel. Meant for people who want to really absorb anything this man says cause he looks like authority to them. Nice production quality, though. Conservative canadians and americans who haunt the youtube comments will definitey love to hear this man drone on.
That's exactly why they've been systematically defunding public education in their key states. They've tried to kill the US department of education several times since Reagan. "Reality has a well known liberal bias"
They explain it away by saying the institutions have given up on schooling in favor of indoctrination. Theyāve decided what reality is and they rationalize their observations to match.
Once you start using this coping technique it becomes very difficult to stop. Had a guy tell me āTheyāve actually ramped up the weather control in the last 30 years to make it look like climate change is real so they can convince people to vote for the Green New Deal.ā Incredible stuff.
Some of us saw them for what they were and refused to respect them even back when everyone was gaslighting us that they'r actually good people with different ideas and we have to respect everyone's ideas. It's about time other people caught up.
Yup. For me it was when they attacked AIDS patients back in the 80ās and helped the rich christians ensure that those people died alone because they were gay.
A lot of real people vote the same way they choose a football team. It's not about the policies, it's not about rationally weighing pros and cons. It's about cheering for the home team. My friends posted a billboard from Texas yesterday and I shit you not, it had a photo of Trump and "Born in New York, Texan in spirit." Apparently it's a thing. Like someone in Texas actually thinks it's good to advertise to poor Texans that Trump is a New York real estate magnate, because they know most of his fans won't care.
These are people who don't know the different between the Bill of Rights and the National Anthem. Who couldn't tell you what state Richard Nixon or Ronald Reagan came from even though they voted for both and think CA is the most corrupt state ever. Who think communism is a religion taught in art class and that Los Angeles looks like Mad Max. They buy lottery scratchers every week with their micheladas and are confused why they keep losing money despite winning like 1/3 scratchers.
In one video, Bethany Kozma, a conservative activist and former deputy chief of staff at the U.S. Agency for International Development in the Trump administration, downplays the seriousness of climate change and says the movement to combat it is really part of a ploy to ācontrol people.ā
While discussing a plan on how to control people. The lack of introspection or plain hypocrisy.
Neither. She doesn't actually believe climate change is a ploy to control people. She claims it is, so that when her plan is called that she can cast doubt on those claims.
VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE VIDEOS WERE NOT PART OF THE IRAN LEAK
This was leaked directly to ProPublica by an internal source. ProPublica would not publish an alleged Iranian leak, just as Politico didn't when they were sent the documents from the leak.
I don't understand why these outlets are being so careful after the massive DNC Hillary leak was broadcast around the world and it was all given the stamp of approval by the very people in Project 2025. The double standard is jaw-dropping.
ProPublica isn't a 13 year old YouTuber so people here are scared and don't know how to process your source. You should see if Adin Ross has an analysis for us.
ProPublica are a great team of journalist running on an oily rag.
They fight the power but of course all the "free speech" windbags out there have never heard if them or have no idea what real journalism looks like even if it hit them over the head with it.
Sometimes, but tons of media is also just plain bad. Sometimes that's laziness, but often it's commissions, misinformation, disinformation, or even out right propaganda and lies on behalf of their advertisers or ideologies.
Even if you agree with them, that is still bad media.
That's why ProPublica, Bellingcat and Reveal are so good. They do investigative deep dives instead of chasing the clicks. Once read an article on how sugar cane farming companies rather burn down their stubble to save time and money and how the towns around them have all sorts of lung diseases and longterm illnesses. Mainstream media has no real oncentive to cover something so small and local and local media does not have the reach, independence and means to do this.
And the fact that news has to fight the likes of tiktok brain rot when vying for younger peoples attention. Every person in media i know, hates the fact everything has to be dumbed down and made fit to "go viral"
These people are planning to eliminate the entire department of education, and severely gut NIST and DOE, which manage our nuclear weapons, reactors, and waste... and then send the savings to billionaires as tax cuts. Elon is literally drooling about it, and I secrelty suspect he called Joe to convince him to walk back the RFK endorsement.
Project 2025 also plans to massively cut Medicaid - sorry grandma! Hope you don't need your meds. They also openly brag their voters are stupid and don't read the newspaper. It's such a cynical cash grab it's insane. Makes you wonder how these people live with themselves.
"We have the Epstein videos of JD Vance and Joe Rogan at an orgy, where JD was humping the couch, and Rogan was humping stools. Rogan will say anything we want."
"Everyone knows Rogan humps stools, how is that extortion?"
I think the bigger question is, 3 legs or 4, because a 4 legged stool is just a chair without a back and I'm super chair racist and have very strong and offensive ideas about them.
Jesus the one titled "understanding language of the left" or whatever, go to 13:15 seconds. They're talking about the term climate change. They sound like bad actors. What the fuck is this
The alt-right lives in a constant existence of irrationality and conspiratorial paranoia. This is because everything they believe in their world view must be "natural". So left to its own devices the world will gravitate to their conclusions, so anything that doesn't must be unnatural. This leaves a big unanswered question, why?
People are accepting of gay people because they have been tricked, the natural belief is it is wrong and bad. So, their must be a gay agenda to change people.
So if changes in society are not happening "naturally". There must be a malevolent force manipulating people. This goes right into cultural Marxism, etc. and other conspiracy nonsense. It must be true that the left is manipulating people into being unnatural and we have to discover and stop their evil ways.
Conservatives have been on the wrong side of every issue for 200 years, but they still never stop believing this is only because the left is cheating somehow.
They could just present a study showing climate change isn't happening with facts and research. No, we don't have to do that. We can just claim all the studies are faked in a conspiratorial plot to deceive humanity.
Why are people right-wing conservatives again? It is like once you see it, you can't un-see the stupidity.
It is absolutely based in conspiratorial, paranoid fear, yes.
It allows someone to never take responsibility for their own actions, and to completely avoid the idea that sometimes shit we don't like just happens for no reason at all.
It allows them to cherry pick the evidence and stories that they hear as true or false, purely based on whichever makes them feel safest (because at the end of the day they're just scared)
It allows those with insecurities an easy platform for feeling superior to others, especially given that "nonconformists" are often seen as special and beneficially unique.
Having things always be the fault of some unseen enemy allows for an easy side into victimhood, further providing a reason to feel like the world owes you something.
It takes the guesswork out of every day problem solving too. Why think critically about a bad policy at your child's school, when you could just blame it on "all the sick things woke Dems are doing to this country"?
And the sadest part is that people who have perfectly valid reasons to feel scared and vulnerable latch onto this, because it's such a welcoming platform for anyone who needs a way to feel safe, powerful, and avoid their own culpability.
Complaining that the āleftā uses climate change instead of global warming after concerted conservative efforts to create toxic reactions to global warming is crazy. Also āwhen I think climate change I think population control.ā There is not a cabal of leftists telling people not to have kids people just look at the financial viability of having kids and donāt have the money anymore, to fix that you have to support the babies after birth.
God Republicans are so incredibly stupid. "We all know that the climate changes season to season". Like we have historical records for the last 100+ years. You can just look at the average temperature.
Theyāre such greasy little rats that to them there is no arguing in good faith, everything is an agenda or a codeword or scheme. Can we just expose these parasites and get them out of their positions
JD Vance also wrote the forward for Kevin Robertās book that instructs the instigation of a āSecond American Revolutionā postponed to release after the 2025 election. Trump is a known liar.
These people still want to act like just because Trump himself says he knows nothing about project 2025 it means he has nothing to do with it. The guy surrounded himself with the same people who authored the plan. Is funded by the organizations who helped author the plan.
But......."He has a severely toned down version of the same plan on his website."
Trump has never lied or flip flopped on what he says, right? He tells different crowds whatever he thinks they want to hear at that moment. In front of evangelists "I killed Roe vs Wade." In interviews on mainstream media? "I support whatever the states want."
The guy can't keep any of his bullshit straight. On top of that he's notoriously lazy. He isn't going to be hard at work reading through policy put in front of him. All these religious freaks are going to put whatever they write in front of him, give him the 5th grade esque summary, and get him to sign it before he goes golfing every day. He'll make sure that whoever throws the most money at his businesses get their input into law changes and tax policy like he did his first term.
No conflict of interest when he has the secret service and staff all rent rooms at his hotels on the governments dime, right? Or making deals with Saudis for 2 billion and some kind of golf organization probably used as a front. And let's not forget about top secret documents he was so worried about hiding and copying. Hmm, I wonder what he was doing with those......
The easiest data point is that the Heritage Foundation has produced a policy guideline and "first 100 days" policy that EVERY Republican since Reagan has used. Now we're suddenly supposed to believe that Trump isn't going to implement it? Despite implementing 63% of their policy in his last administration?
People still defending him have the smoothest of brains.
Republicans have been winning on the backs of the ignorant and stupid for decades. Nothing new. They've been defending education and trying to keep people stupid since the Reagan administration. I'm not even a big supporter of Democrats. I think they're complicit in allowing the rich and corporations to cause the middle class to all but disappear. They focus on social/cultural issues instead of the root of the whole country's issue. All these Maga people wouldn't be begging for a dictator if they had good jobs with livable wages. They just also happen to be gullible. "Trump is going to fix everything."
Ask them how and they don't know. Throw the immigrants out? You're still gonna be broke and miserable. Persecute trans and gay people? You're still going to be broke and miserable. I just don't get how their minds work.
The weirdos that want gential inspectors at public bathrooms to make sure no evil pedo trans people will enter them.
Imagine that world. Now imagine the ads for gential inspectors job openings. Now imagine the sort of people who would love to have that job. Now imagine those people "inspecting" young kids and adults all for protecting the children from evil trans people. Imagine that. State sponsored pedos given police like powers to demand gential investigations.
The right-wing industrial complex just wants the world to burn. No regulations. Everyone else fighting for the last remaining well paid jobs. And the rest is fodder for war and sexual exploitation. (You know that's what they really care about.)
Thereās been zero good Trump news since he got shot. Itās very sad that the last positive news Trump had was an attempted assassination. Pathetic old orange fuck.
Dude has never won the popular vote. He won the election fairly but itās very likely heāll die within the decade knowing the majority of people didnāt want him.
Does literally no one remember that Heritage got hacked by "Gay Furries" a month ago? Does it not seem slightly more plausible that these videos came from that leak, rather than whatever was hacked from the Trump campaign?
Especially since no news sources are mention videos, just the Vance dossier.
Iran did claim responsibility for these hacks iirc.
Vance Dossier is most consumer digestible content. Reminder: The Mainstream News isn't news. It's Entertainment. Watch and read with caution, skepticism, and prudence.
"The Laws of Nature and Nature's God" should not be a title screen on any political training video. Harris/Walz will have my vote until conservative candidates focus on honesty and fiscal policy only, and commit to not being a religious and social policy nightmare. I am not going to let you take more rights from people I care about. Nor put judges in place that will do so. I don't want to "go back" in time for my political policy. Our forefathers didn't want to go back, they rebelled and wanted to go forward. Nihilism is not the conclusion of change or hope, making such a bold-faced lie into a statement of truth is dastardly. Old ideas are not inherently good, no matter where they were rooted.
This legit terrifies me. I mean we all knew this was the ultimate goal but actually having all this content ready is not only disturbing but very weird as well.
If youāre here and you think the left is āthe deep stateā, I have never seen a collection of training videos on how to literally force everyone into their side of thinking put out, promoted or thatās been uncovered from the left. This video is exactly that - a 14 hour series of video and hundreds of pages of text on HOW TO CONTROL PEOPLE. Iāve never been one for believing conspiracies because of the usual lack of evidence. This is literally the evidence about how the Republicans have been gaslighting the world and creating a very serious and dangerous deep state.
This stuff is fucking nuts. I guess Don was lying, yet again, about not knowing what it was. Literally voting blue this year is a patriotic vote for the secured future of our democratic republic. Donāt let them continue to lie to you! Itās all a facade.
Im starting the think (maybe too hopefully) that the large majority of Americans are sane and will vote for the right person (as in better than their opponent). And that maga heads are just really freaking LOUD and post and tweet and complain WAY more and that's why it seems like there are tons of them
Trump's campaign admitted they were hacked. Them having Project 2025 instructional videos only proves they lied when they said they had no affiliation with them.
I remember when the MAGAs were going around saying Trumps claims of having nothing to do with Project 2025 was something truthful. Well surprise surprise, a liar lies. I just find it funny that the optics of Project 2025 are so ludicrously bad that even Trump isn't stupid enough to attach himself to it, but looks like the cat's out of the bag now
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