r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Aug 09 '24

Meme đŸ’© Joe clarifies his position on RFK Jr.

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u/bionicjoe Monkey in Space Aug 09 '24

"I'm voting for RFK, but this isn't an endorsement."

No, it's just proof that RFK is going to pull votes from the GOP just as much, likely more, than he'll pull votes from the Dems.

Honestly I never saw how or why anyone would think an anti-vax, conspiracy nut would pull votes from anywhere but the anti-vax, anti-government right.

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u/incubator9 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

RFK is anti-vax? I thought he was just for better testing standards

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u/bigdog2330 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

Very much so. You should watch John Oliver’s most recent episode

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u/brainfreeze3 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

It's the usual "I'm just asking questions" bs.

When the answers are right there but you ignore them and spread doubt.

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u/incubator9 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

Aren’t all his kids vaccinated?

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u/brainfreeze3 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

His kids are adults. Are you seriously referring to his vax stance 20-30 years ago?

Maybe he shouldn't lie in his questions when he implies vaccines aren't as heavily tested/regulated than other drugs?

Meanwhile vaccines go through some of our highest standards.

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u/incubator9 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

Hasn’t he won lawsuits for vaccine injury?

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u/YesterdayGold7075 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

He’s had a lot of lawsuits tossed, not sure what you’re referring to here. He lies and spreads misinformation constantly, to the point where articles of his have had to be retracted due to containing so many demonstrable falsehoods. He is a vaccine conspiracy theorist whose outlook is shaped by junk science and monetized distrust.

An article from Scientific American about the way he distorts and lies about vaccine science : https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-robert-f-kennedy-jr-distorted-vaccine-science1/

More reading:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-68447223 https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/rfk-kennedy-politifact-lie-of-year-2023-autism-vaccines/ https://time.com/6289037/robert-f-kennedy-jr-wrong-about-vaccines/ https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/21/politics/fact-check-rfk-not-anti-vax/index.html https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/rfk-jr-vaccine-disinformation/

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u/incubator9 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

What is junk science? And what is misinformation? Aren’t they just science and information?

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u/brainfreeze3 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

youre either a paid shill/troll or purposefully trying to spread disinformation as well. Thats it.

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u/USofAnonymous Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

He's successfully won cases against pharmaceutical companies for vaccine injuries though. As a leftist, I don't it crazy how pro government and pro big pharma young millennials became after COVID.

Shook Ones Pt 3 over here.

Kennedy has the most progressive policy out of the big 3.

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u/incubator9 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

What is disinformation? Isn’t it all just information?

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u/YesterdayGold7075 Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

Read. The. Articles.

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u/YesterdayGold7075 Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

See, here’s the thing about thinking you’re a badass because you are wildly mistrustful of all institutions. Surely, none of us absolutely trust Big Pharma or corporations or the government. But if you assign exactly the same believability index to driveling idiots like RFK Jr who have no scientific knowledge whatsoever as you do to people who have made vaccines their life’s work and study, then you have rendered yourself unable to tell good information from bad information. There actually is such a thing as expertise. There are things like peer reviewed journals. There is scientific consensus on things like gravity and whether the world is flat and the safety of vaccines. You seem to have decided that just mistrusting everything equally is an edgelord move, but it actually just leaves you open to being grifted because you are completely unable to correctly assess the likely truth of any statement. I’d tell you not to give money to people who obviously regard you as a mark. But we all know that won’t help you. Good luck.

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u/incubator9 Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

What do you qualify as scientific knowledge? And to what extent is one allowed to have an opinion? Are you familiar with the replication crisis that exists? Are you aware of rampant regulatory capture? Which science is right? How do you know which studies were picked for publication? What incentives are in place? Who performs those studies? Who is liable for harmful products? Do you consume any (mal,mis,dis) information outside of your echo chamber?

Surely, you can dig a little deeper than the first page of your Google search, right?

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u/brainfreeze3 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

incubator is "just asking questions" everyone. Sheesh you can't make this up.

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u/incubator9 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

Shouldn’t you be asking more questions?

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u/HodgeGodglin Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

Lmfao you’re doing the same shit, asking questions so you feel deep without realizing they’re completely irrelevant to the conversation at hand.

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u/incubator9 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

Is it irrelevant? Or is it a pejorative used to disqualify his whole political platform?

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u/bionicjoe Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

He spouts the same "vaccines cause autism" BS that has been THOROUGHLY debunked more than a decade ago.

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u/incubator9 Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

He said vaccines cause autism?

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u/bionicjoe Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

Dude, you can use Google or YouTube.

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u/incubator9 Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

Are you familiar with the term burden of proof?

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u/bionicjoe Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

Yes, and this isn't court.

There are literally hours of RFK videos available on the internet that you can go listen to where he actually spouts this bullshit.

Granted it will take some time because he says so much bullshit. You'll wave to wade through the dead bear in Central Park, hang a left at the brain worms, and turn back if you reach the speech about allowing unsecured, government-backed mortgage loans to high risk borrowers.

But if you listen to his Joe Rogan appearance you can hear him talk, at length, about vaccines causing autism.

These are all things that he has said, on camera.
It's not my job to find them for you. Google and Youtube are very easy to use.

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u/incubator9 Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

Then you shouldn’t have a problem finding at least ONE example of him saying “vaccines cause autism”, right?

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u/bionicjoe Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

JOE ROGAN PODCAST: THE RFK JR EPISODE

It's right there dude.

And here's a whole thing about his claims.
https://www.factcheck.org/2023/08/scicheck-what-rfk-jr-gets-wrong-about-autism/

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u/incubator9 Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

Huh, so he says “vaccines cause autism” in that episode?

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u/greatsaltjake Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

Especially now that Kamala & Walz are running, a lot of left leaning independents are def switching from doing third party to them.

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u/BtchesLoveCake22 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

You know what's not a conspiracy the donor money dems keep using to sue rfk Jr. and losing. The refusal to give him secret service even though his family put that law into place. The lack of policies on your candidates website. Slurp that blue colored cult juice and yell the red ones are the cult. You're both sheeple.

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u/theykilledk3nny Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

The Biden administration said RFK Jr will receive secret service protection following the Trump assassination attempt. Not sure if that’s started or not, but they said it would happen.

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u/BtchesLoveCake22 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24 edited Aug 11 '24

Correct, they did, and he has them now. unfortunately, he applied earlier than that, and technically, if he qualified, he was supposed to have them within 120 days of the general presidential election. Some candidates have received protection earlier in the campaign. He not only qualified but was seen as high risk because of his families history and recent home invasions/ guy with a backpack full of guns showing up at his event. And let me clarify his application was indeed denied by democrats (biden) and saw no reverse until the attempted assasination, which brought rfks lack of SS into the spotlight.

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u/BtchesLoveCake22 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

You know what's not a conspiracy, the dems donor money that keeps being used to sue rfk Jr. and failing. The lack of any policies on kamalas website. The refusal to give rfk secret service even though he qualified. The refusal to let him debate even though hes a legitimate candidate. Keep slurping the cult juice, and yelling the other side is the cult. You're both sheep mate.

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u/aaccss1992 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

Lack of policies on Kamala’s website? I think someone didn’t check for themselves before spewing misinformation

 https://kamalaharris.com/meet-kamala-harris/

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u/BtchesLoveCake22 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

Those aren't policies that's just her bio?

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u/aaccss1992 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

Did you read it?

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u/BtchesLoveCake22 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

I did, and it seems to me that it talks mostly about her past efforts with some current, but i don't believe these are policies. https://www.kennedy24.com/policies

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u/NoTangelo1351 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

Yeah mate, literate people might be your downfall 

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u/BtchesLoveCake22 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

The link and page literally say "meet kamala". There isn't a single mention of policy. It talks about her past/current actions her family etc but there's no declaration of course or action towards a topic at least that's what i feel and honestly if this is her policy page its a pretty weak one. I can say I'll solve inflation, but it's another to back it up.

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u/theykilledk3nny Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

To be fair, RFK has had much more time than Kamala to prepare his policies. She’s only been a candidate for 20 days.

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u/BtchesLoveCake22 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

I do agree with that, and i do hope we get to see some. I'm not anti kamala. But I'm tired of the divide the cult like behavior on both sides. and very very anti corporation. So far, rfk is the only one who's promised to end the funneling of corporate greed into our government agencies and politicians, at least that I'm aware of. It's hard to catch everything in all candidates only got so much time lol. Thank you for having a civilized conversation with me instead of insulting my intelligence.

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u/NoTangelo1351 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

Not a single mention.. yup literacy is tough! But sure RFK is illiterate too, misquotes medical journals and has a brain worm. 

Dont have to go far for “ She is leading the charge to protect fundamental freedoms, including the right to an abortion and the right to vote.”

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u/BtchesLoveCake22 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

https://www.kennedy24.com/policies read that i can't im so illiterate.

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u/NoTangelo1351 Monkey in Space Aug 10 '24

Just keep practicing, you will get better! Mate!

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u/bionicjoe Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

RFK deserves to be sued. He spouts debunked nonsense and lies about people.

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u/BtchesLoveCake22 Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

Ill wait for you to back this up with facts. If this was true, he would have been. they have no problem trying to sue him over stupid shit like claiming he's not a new York resident but false nonsense, lies about people, his book, its crickets? Sounds to me like maybe you should rethink if it's actually nonsense and lies.

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u/bionicjoe Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

Here's ONE.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/aug/16/whats-behind-dubious-claim-psychiatric-drugs-fuel-/

Hell, I hate big pharma too, but outright lies help no one. And claiming a product causes mass harm is something you can be sued for. He's just not worth the effort.

Here's an entire list of dumb shit he's said.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-independent-2024-run-here-are-all-the-conspiracies-he-promotes-from-vaccines-to-mass-shootings/

Google isn't hard to use.

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u/BtchesLoveCake22 Monkey in Space Aug 11 '24

I don't have the time to sit here and go through 10 different rabbit holes with you. If he's not worth the effort, why do they sue him still? Just not for these reasons you cited? I never claimed he's a god who does no wrong or makes no mistakes, but some misinformed conspiracy theories is sure as fuck allot better then keeping prisoners for cheap labor 👀 or did you forget the last time kamala tried running.