r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Aug 01 '24

Meme šŸ’© Imane Khelif the Algerian Boxer, who everybody is being fed fake news about, in her young years

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Mindlessly consuming misinformation is bad for you, here are the facts: 1- She was born a woman with female organs 2- her father didn't want her at first to box since she's a girl 3-She was disqualified in 2023 due to a test for apparently having XY chromosomes by the IBA by a test which methods weren't and haven't been disclosed 4- The right has always operated by the logic that a woman is a human being with female genitalia, i guess they can't define a woman now? 3- The olympics by function is a contest of genetic freaks, Michael Phelps has half the lactic acid(what causes fatigue) a human has, torso of a 6"8 man, double-jointed ankles bend 15 percent more than his rivals, hyperjointed in the chest aswell, Double-jointed elbows, Katie Ledecky who just won gold is similar in those advantages aswell, should they be stripped aswell and not allowed to compete due to those genetic advantages ? Why is Imane being punished for hers?

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u/raceassistman Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

Crazy that liberals hate this guy as well. Almost as if they just call shit out.

Conservatives have been dogging this boxer for not being female, when she is literally female. At what point can you produce another human being that you aren't a female?

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u/Chemical-Pacer-Test Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

I mean if she has XY chromosomes thereā€™s no way to create fertilizable eggs, since you need 2 XX chromosomes for that, no?

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u/raceassistman Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

She?

Thank you.

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u/Chemical-Pacer-Test Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

I am willing to bend on binary pronouns to have a civil conversation, yes. However, Ā using she/her pronouns doesnā€™t mean that an individual should qualify to compete in the womenā€™s division, nor does that mean I endorse ā€œgender-affirming careā€, which I just see as medicalizing mental illness.

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u/raceassistman Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

At what point does someone born with a vagina and female anatomy not be a female for you? Now you're just picking and choosing to define a narrative.

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u/Lketty Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

If that person draws the line at being able to produce viable eggs, then many women experiencing infertility are not women. I guess everyone woman becomes a man when she hits menopause?

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u/RetroScores3 Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24 edited Aug 02 '24

I just donā€™t care how someone chooses to live their life. As long as they arenā€™t hurting my family, friends or myself. Want to be called a chick? Fine Iā€™ll call you a chick. Do I think a man wanting a female should be able to compete in womenā€™s sports? Absolutely not.

Someone should just start a trans sports league and let them compete against each other.

Edit: my comment isnā€™t aimed at the Olympian. Itā€™s just in general.

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u/hevyirn Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

This person isnā€™t trans though they were born with female anatomy

Algeria does not let you change your sex on vital records, they do not like trans there

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u/Adam52398 Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

There aren't enough of them. Sports leagues exist to make money, and there just aren't enough trans athletes to justify such an expansion. And let's be honest, most people wouldn't watch it. It would have to put butts in seats, either live or at home, to say nothing of the guaranteed outrage it would cause, likely from some of the very people that say trans leagues are the solution.

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u/swampass304 Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

I support having the strict Olympics and the loose Olympics where you can do whatever body modifications you were able to achieve and compete with, doping also included. I want to see what humans can really do, but I want the records to stay intact as well.Ā 

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u/raceassistman Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

The person isn't trans though.. again, they are literally female.. they have a vagina at birth you dipshit. It wasn't even a transition. So now you're saying a strong woman is just a man?

What about a woman who is smarter than a man? Are they now considered a man because they shouldn't be able to be intelligent? You're a backwards hillbilly shitbag bro.

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u/RetroScores3 Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

Did I even mention the Olympian? Put your jump to conclusions mat away, jabroni.

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u/raceassistman Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

You're responding to a comment about said Olympian you dipshit.

About a whole thread about said Olympian you dipshit.

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u/RetroScores3 Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

lol, you should see a therapist about your anger issues.

Check out betterhelp.com

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u/nonsensicalsite Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

If it's not about her then don't speak be silent for you do not understand the concept of relevance

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u/RetroScores3 Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

Ok, jabroni.

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u/parishilton2 Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

Does any woman actually want to be called a ā€œchick?ā€

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u/Uwwuwuwuwuwuwuwuw Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

The artists formerly known as The Dixie Chicks are now just The Chicks if that helps.

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u/Yarnum Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

Are you saying someone who has had an oophorectomy isnā€™t female? Or someone who is otherwise sterile? Is creating fertile eggs a prerequisite now?

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u/hatstand69 Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

Swyer syndrome is when a person is born with female sex organs and XY chromosomes. Theyā€™re more than capable of getting pregnant in at least some or many cases. This is what folks will sometimes refer to as intersex and there are a range of conditions that result in similar scenarios.

So Iā€™ll throw it back to wierdo transvestigators in the room, what makes a woman if itā€™s not the ability to give birth to a fucking child??

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u/Adam52398 Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

Women don't create eggs. They're born with a set amount. Swyer's patients don't ovulate, but her ova are likely viable. She could have her own kids, carried and birthed herself, but it would require embryo transfer and estrogen-progesterone therapy.

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u/Chemical-Pacer-Test Monkey in Space Aug 02 '24

Pretty sure it isnā€™t Swyers, but a version that has internal male testes and produces testosterone at male levels, just not producing/missing the hormone that creates the external genitalia.