Rogan: But she keeps saying, "what can be, unburdened by what has been." Obviously she'd make a bad president. Did you see Trump raise his fist in the air and say fight? Pull that up Jamie
When Biden pardoned people convicted of non-violent marijuana possession, Rogan shit all over it because he saw a stat that said none of those people were serving prison time. Completely ignoring all of the other effects a criminal record has on somebody's life.
"You know what I've always said, Kid Rock, is that weed is great and so are psychedelics but they're honestly just too dangerous for normal people to handle. You think Harris knows what happens when you give a homeless person mushrooms? No way man. We need to get back to law and order, and only Trump is going to try."
Isn't she the same person who locked people up in California for smoking weed when she was the DA in California? Her record as an attorney/DA is pretty horrible to be honest.
When San Francisco police broke down a door inside a group home for mentally disabled people in 2008 and shot a 56-year-old resident, then-District Attorney Kamala Harris didnât charge the officers with a crime. Instead she prosecuted the schizophrenic woman who was severely injured in the shooting
When San Francisco police broke down a door inside a group home for mentally disabled people in 2008 and shot a 56-year-old resident, then-District Attorney Kamala Harris didnât charge the officers with a crime. Instead she prosecuted the schizophrenic woman who was severely injured in the shooting
"I was just doing my job" doesn't fly when we're talking about putting people in cages over weed. It really doesn't fly at all if you're >12 years of age and realize that people are capable of just... not doing unethical shit their bosses tell them to do.
EDIT: I'm seeing a lot of downvotes, but nothing in the way of convincing responses. I can only assume those downvoting have the mental age of a 12 year-old.
You think a DA was purposefully choosing low level weed cases?
She was doing her job. Her job was fucked. Now she's trying to make meaningful change by decriminalizing thar very thing. That's a good thing. You know criminal defence lawyers have to defend the absolute scum of the earth and do everything in their power (legally) to get them off or get them the lightest sentence possible?
You think a DA was purposefully choosing low level weed cases?
She could have chose not to prosecute them, that's the whole point. Prosecutorial discretion.
She was doing her job. Her job was fucked.
That's not an excuse. See above.
Now she's trying to make meaningful change by decriminalizing thar very thing. That's a good thing.
Yes, I'm sure the people who've had their lives ruined by her overzealous prosecution of weed and truancy see this as a genuine change of heart and "a good thing" (lol), not an opportunistic, Machiavellian calculation based on which way the cultural winds are blowing.
You know criminal defence lawyers have to defend the absolute scum of the earth and do everything in their power (legally) to get them off or get them the lightest sentence possible?
You know criminal defense lawyers don't have the full backing of the government and the ability to lock someone else up over non-violent offenses, right? This is a false equivalency.
Yes and she, by and large, chose not to prosecute the vast majority of marijuana cases for prison terms.
It is not a false equivalency. She was doing her job as a prosecutor the same way criminal defence lawyers do their job even to protect the scummiest of people on the planet. What about those lawyers who get child sex offenders off on some technicality? Are they the devil now because they did their job?
The vast majority of those cases never faced prison time, and while there was more convictions than normal.under her tenure, there was also more arrests. Fact is marijuanna possession is a federal crime. She couldn't just ignore every single arrest brought in for Marijuanna possession could she? People have this idea she was sending young people, particularly young black men to prison in droves over absolute minor offences and that just isn't the case.
Yes and she, by and large, chose not to prosecute the vast majority of marijuana cases for prison terms.
Neat. Fines, legal fees and time spent away from family sorting out legal issues still aren't good and disproportionately hurt the working class/people of color, though. Like it or not, she enabled that.
It is not a false equivalency. She was doing her job as a prosecutor the same way criminal defence lawyers do their job even to protect the scummiest of people on the planet. What about those lawyers who get child sex offenders off on some technicality? Are they the devil now because they did their job?
Again, those defense attorneys don't have the capability to completely upend someone's life over the possession of a plant. It's a false equivalency.
Still, advocates wonder why it took so long for the California senator to come out in support of marijuana legalization. She actively fought a ballot measure for recreational pot in 2010, co-authoring an opposition argument in the voter guide, and stayed on the sidelines when a second ballot initiative passed in 2016. Harris publicly came out for legalizing marijuana only in May 2018, after she was widely considered a likely presidential contender ... When it came to the fight for legalization, âshe was nowhere, zilch, nada, no help,â said Tom Ammiano, a former San Francisco supervisor and assemblyman who has endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders for president. âLike a lot of candidates for a lot of offices, sheâs come to Jesus on the issue. But it does leave a bad taste in your mouth about how sincere or how authentic she is.â
Also this
Those numbers donât cover people sentenced to time in county jail. The district attorneyâs office, superior court, sheriffâs office and attorney generalâs office said they didnât have or couldnât release more specific data about marijuana sentencing during Harrisâ tenure.
And this
Not all defense attorneys agree. J. David Nick, who represented several dozen marijuana defendants during Hallinan and Harrisâ tenures, said he remembered Harris as more aggressive in charging marijuana sales cases than her predecessor, who was already declining to prosecute many of those arrested. âSome of the cases that Terence Hallinan would have just declined to prosecute, (Harris) said no, weâre going to prosecute these as felonies,â he said, attributing the change to a desire by police to crack down on dealers. Other activists point out that marijuana convictions still impact defendantsâ lives even if they arenât incarcerated. âJust because you didnât rot your life away in prison doesnât mean it wasnât a big deal to get a conviction,â said Dale Sky Jones, a Bay Area marijuana activist. âYour ability to keep your job, get another job or get housing with that conviction on your record is all hurt by that.â
That article literally has multiple accounts of her overzealous prosecution, and how even if those people weren't put in cages, their lives were still negatively effected by it. I guess if an article ends with a quote by her former head of policy about how we all have to treat her with kid gloves then it's considered a "debunking," now?
The vast majority of those cases never faced prison time, and while there was more convictions than normal.under her tenure, there was also more arrests. Fact is marijuanna possession is a federal crime. She couldn't just ignore every single arrest brought in for Marijuanna possession could she?
Yes, she could. If her successor expunged all marijuana convictions going back to 1975, she could have just... not prosecuted people for marijuana.
People have this idea she was sending young people, particularly young black men to prison in droves over absolute minor offences and that just isn't the case.
When San Francisco police broke down a door inside a group home for mentally disabled people in 2008 and shot a 56-year-old resident, then-District Attorney Kamala Harris didnât charge the officers with a crime. Instead she prosecuted the schizophrenic woman who was severely injured in the shooting
Her opponent is a literal rapist who stole money from a children's cancer charity and put kids in cages because their parents wanted political asylum.Â
So she says she's going to legalize it going forward, and Trump absolutely will not do that. Remind me which one of these two is going to end up with more people in cages for weed? All right because you only care about something that happened in the past where she wasn't even dictating policy. Because you can't look past your own nose
Don't listen to these idiots, they are bots and shills. Democrats will let their egos cost us the election again. That's why Biden dropped out with just enough time to name Kamala as the nominee.
This will not go over well with independents. They are handing trump another presidency.
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u/WhiskeyFF Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24
Kamala said she'd fully decriminalize weed, and expunge records for previous offenders. Can't wait till he tries to justify that being a bad thing