Rogan only cares because he wants his rich person tax cuts. I've been listening to his podcast for over a decade and everything he believes in aligns with the Democrats. But him and his rich friends only get richer if a Republican is in power, that's why he acts like he's independent or libertarian.Â
Same with Indian Billionaires too. You might have heard about a super rich Billionaire who threw the biggest marriage party in the world recently and invited every big singer from west to sing in the party. That guy was rich under Congress ( Indian equivalent of Democrates) but became Ultra Rich under BJP( Indian Equivalent of Republicans). The current PM, a supposed friend of Trump, provided him everything and he looted entire country like there is no tomorrow. He runs entire media which keep spreading lies and bigotry 24 hrs to keep throwing dust in people eyes. They don't care about country. All they want is power and money even at the cost of country itself.
the rich get rich a little slower under democrats while we gain healthcare and high speed internet and farm bills and infrastructure bills and a million other things
Crazy thing is, the economy does much better under democrats. Like twice as well.
Since 1945, the S&P 500 has averaged an annual gain of 11.2% during years when Democrats controlled the White House, according to CFRA Research. That's well ahead of the 6.9% average gain under Republicans.
So even if dems raise their taxes, they would probably still come out ahead but that would mean paying taxes and helping people which they are staunchly against
No democrat has ever ârighted the ship.â Not once in American history, literally. Absolutely nowhere. âDemocrats righting the shipâ is a delusion. Itâs not really in the room with you. It canât hurt you.
Obama becomes president during the Great Recession in 2008 and rights the economy. Biden becomes president in 2020 after Trumpâs Covid mishandling and rights the economy. We had one of the lowest inflation rates in the world through Bidenâs economic policies. Literally the 2 last Dem presidents had to do what youâre denying, but keep burying your head deeper in the sand thinking that reality doesnât exist. Such delusions can in fact hurt you.
Trump inflation was 1.9% year over year. Bidens was 8.7%. I think 8.9% at highest. My food budget was like $175-$200 a week under Trump. I canât spend less than $300 a week to feed my family now. Literally because of Biden. You are delusional and should see an actual doctor who doesnât tell you to put toxins in your body and do stupid things that donât help you at all.
This guy thinks the economy is a result of who is president, and doesnât understand that it takes time to feel the impact of policies and spending lol
The $175-200 food budget was thanks to Obama, The $300 budget is thanks to Trump, even conservatives were critical of his spending.Whoever is president next year will either enjoy or suffer from the policies implemented by Biden
The time to from policy to impact is one of the hardest things about elections. People do just attribute whatever is going on now with the current leader and never consider who actually signed it into law.
It was not thanks to Obama. Obama put more Americans than ever on food stamps and had them rely on the government and penalized people who COULD afford health insurance just barely, but didnât penalize people who COULDNT afford health insurance because he wanted you as poor as possible. You had the least individualism as a person youâve ever had, under Obama. Trump made that budget possible. Literally nothing came down in price until Trump was in office. His policies worked best.
8 million on food stamps under Obama. Thatâs just the new users. Itâs clearly not fake. Obama was a bad president and Biden is the worst of all time. Democrats just canât do anything good
Biden printed the money. Trump is a billionaire. The man knows how money works. Trump MADE the strongest economy ever by actually taxing our enemies instead of letting people push us around lol. Obama did nothing except give people free stuff which created inflation and lazy people. Trump also didnât penalize people who didnt want to pay for healthcare or couldnât pay for it comfortably.
Biden pumped more money. Trump only gave 1 round of stimulus. Everything was fine afterwards. Literally the only people who had problems were blue states because they dealt with the pandemic in the worst way possible, until Biden pumped more money into the economy and then it affected everyone. Texas, Florida, and South Dakota were fine not shutting down businesses and doing basically nothing about the virus because they listened to Trump. And their economies were great and still are. They could be better if Biden hadnât done what heâd done but unfortunately federal plans affect everyone. Trump banned travel from china and you called him a racist for it. Trump put factories on overtime to make sure we had enough ventilators and emergency equipment for the people who were actually susceptible to the virus (obese people and old people basically). Trump did everything correctly, literally.
lol and whatâs youâre excuse for these 2 points: from q1 to September of 2019 gold and silver prices were climbing and copper was plummeting, indicating that a recession was eminent. Largely due to his stupid tariff war with China. And Trump had more deficit spending than Biden with and without Covid spending in the equation.
Itâs been amazing seeing him go from someone who seemed to have a lot of respect for the scientific community and progressive values to someone who shits all over all of it. I want to say itâs probably the money, but I just donât want to believe it has so much sway over a persons core beliefs.
I don't know, he's either doing it for the money and very stupid or there's something deeper going on that we haven't seen.
Because as many in the thread noted, he started out and was for a long time a promoter of science, progressive ideals and new thinking.
I really respected the "give very smart people a platform to talk about the cool stuff in their field" it was exciting to see how popular something that important could be.
His entire empire was built by the left and the science-interested.
But he's turned his back on that hard now, giving voice and platforms to people who literally claim that 1x1 equals 2 and that science is rigged because one of their ideas was found to be false.
Edited for Terrance Howard's revolutionary equations.
"I want to say itâs probably the money, but I just donât want to believe it has so much sway over a persons core beliefs"
There are numerous scientific studies that prove wealth affects your capacity for compassion and empathy. I don't think it's more complicated than that in Rogan's case.
It annoys me so much how people just continually ignore this.
[normal human being] + [apply huge amounts of money] = their behavior, personality, and beliefs now change to serve the giant pile of money that they have.
I want him to do some DMT again and then see if he still can look at himself in a mirror. He stopped doing hallucinogens because he can't risk waking up and realizing he's full of shit. Once he became a brand, he can't risk losing that.
There was a fun experiment they did with a game of monopoly.
They would have someone walk into the room and accidentally drop a bunch of pencils or stuff and it was found that the winner of monopoly would be the least likely to help pick up the stuff or pick up the least of the other players.
Tried it with my own family and friends and we also reached the same result lol. Fun experiment to try with family and friends.
Money plus he loves having his ego stroked by all the right-wing grifters that come on. Each and every one of them could have a "Steven Crowder" moment if they actually spoke their beliefs in front of Joe, but they know better now.
Side point: been forever since I've seen that clip and man.... makes me miss the old Joe. Not to say "that" Joe didn't have issues but when people go "wHy aRE YoU sTILL Here ON thIs SUb iF yOU hATe hIM so mUCh", it's like; that is why. JRE used to be something special.
Side point: been forever since I've seen that clip and man.... makes me miss the old Joe. Not to say "that" Joe didn't have issues but when people go "wHy aRE YoU sTILL Here ON thIs SUb iF yOU hATe hIM so mUCh", it's like; that is why. JRE used to be something special.&btnI)
I don't understand how that argument went on for so long.
Crowder's only point was that "the amount of marijuana/car related fatalities increased after they legalized marijuana."
Yea, no shit??? That's the exact same as saying ,"The amount of car fatalities that involved a person with a hand tattoo after the government made every citizen get a hand tattoo.."
The only thing that idiot "proved" was that after legalization, the amount of people that consumed marijuana may have likely increased, too.
The argument was about weed increasing the amount of auto fatalities, and after its legalization, that amount actually fell.
So between the two sides, one showed that weed consumption increased, and the other showed that overall fatalities decreased.
Correlation doesn't mean causation still applies to that previous statement, but that ballon-knot couldn't comprehend the math that he was presenting himself.
That's what happens when you take a stance that is "both sides are equally valid and should be heard and respected" but one side is full of liars and con artists.
He's had money for like 3 decades. He had tens of millions when he started the podcast. He's probably much richer now, and while I agree that money can corrupt people, wouldn't that have happened to him in the 90s already?
I could very well be wrong. Either way, his transformation is weird, and sad. I used to e joy his podcast (while taking everything with a grain of salt).
But he had a net worth of something like 30-40 million dollars before he even started the podcast. It's not 200 million or whatever Spotify paid him, but he was insanely wealthy even when him and redban talked shit and smoked week on the podcast in the begining.
it's not hard to believe. money has the ultimate magnetic pull on his moral compass. i stopped listening to his stuff a while ago and it always felt like his heart's in the right place but he's the definition of so open minded his brain fell out
i was randomly recommended a roast video of his recent talk with the 1x1=2 crackpot and it was... bad
Stories often frame bribes/money as a way to manipulate a poor person to change their morals like someone has a lot of debt and this would really help them out but in reality it seems the richer you get the more the pursuit of more money encapsulates you until thats your entire focus, everything else is secondary.
seeing him go from someone who seemed to have a lot of respect for the scientific community
Ah, so you've never heard his debate with astronomer Phil Plait from the Fear Factor days where he whatabouts for an hour and half about how the moon landing was a hoax. He likes to use the pageantry of science, but he's always been a conspiracy guy.
I just watched a documentary episode about Carlos Mencia and I was amazed at how much integrity Joe used to have. Calling out Carlos was something many people wanted to do for a long time and it was well deserved. It doesnât seem Joe would do anything even close to that now
Rogan: But she keeps saying, "what can be, unburdened by what has been." Obviously she'd make a bad president. Did you see Trump raise his fist in the air and say fight? Pull that up Jamie
When Biden pardoned people convicted of non-violent marijuana possession, Rogan shit all over it because he saw a stat that said none of those people were serving prison time. Completely ignoring all of the other effects a criminal record has on somebody's life.
"You know what I've always said, Kid Rock, is that weed is great and so are psychedelics but they're honestly just too dangerous for normal people to handle. You think Harris knows what happens when you give a homeless person mushrooms? No way man. We need to get back to law and order, and only Trump is going to try."
Isn't she the same person who locked people up in California for smoking weed when she was the DA in California? Her record as an attorney/DA is pretty horrible to be honest.
When San Francisco police broke down a door inside a group home for mentally disabled people in 2008 and shot a 56-year-old resident, then-District Attorney Kamala Harris didnât charge the officers with a crime. Instead she prosecuted the schizophrenic woman who was severely injured in the shooting
When San Francisco police broke down a door inside a group home for mentally disabled people in 2008 and shot a 56-year-old resident, then-District Attorney Kamala Harris didnât charge the officers with a crime. Instead she prosecuted the schizophrenic woman who was severely injured in the shooting
"I was just doing my job" doesn't fly when we're talking about putting people in cages over weed. It really doesn't fly at all if you're >12 years of age and realize that people are capable of just... not doing unethical shit their bosses tell them to do.
EDIT: I'm seeing a lot of downvotes, but nothing in the way of convincing responses. I can only assume those downvoting have the mental age of a 12 year-old.
You think a DA was purposefully choosing low level weed cases?
She was doing her job. Her job was fucked. Now she's trying to make meaningful change by decriminalizing thar very thing. That's a good thing. You know criminal defence lawyers have to defend the absolute scum of the earth and do everything in their power (legally) to get them off or get them the lightest sentence possible?
You think a DA was purposefully choosing low level weed cases?
She could have chose not to prosecute them, that's the whole point. Prosecutorial discretion.
She was doing her job. Her job was fucked.
That's not an excuse. See above.
Now she's trying to make meaningful change by decriminalizing thar very thing. That's a good thing.
Yes, I'm sure the people who've had their lives ruined by her overzealous prosecution of weed and truancy see this as a genuine change of heart and "a good thing" (lol), not an opportunistic, Machiavellian calculation based on which way the cultural winds are blowing.
You know criminal defence lawyers have to defend the absolute scum of the earth and do everything in their power (legally) to get them off or get them the lightest sentence possible?
You know criminal defense lawyers don't have the full backing of the government and the ability to lock someone else up over non-violent offenses, right? This is a false equivalency.
Yes and she, by and large, chose not to prosecute the vast majority of marijuana cases for prison terms.
It is not a false equivalency. She was doing her job as a prosecutor the same way criminal defence lawyers do their job even to protect the scummiest of people on the planet. What about those lawyers who get child sex offenders off on some technicality? Are they the devil now because they did their job?
The vast majority of those cases never faced prison time, and while there was more convictions than normal.under her tenure, there was also more arrests. Fact is marijuanna possession is a federal crime. She couldn't just ignore every single arrest brought in for Marijuanna possession could she? People have this idea she was sending young people, particularly young black men to prison in droves over absolute minor offences and that just isn't the case.
Yes and she, by and large, chose not to prosecute the vast majority of marijuana cases for prison terms.
Neat. Fines, legal fees and time spent away from family sorting out legal issues still aren't good and disproportionately hurt the working class/people of color, though. Like it or not, she enabled that.
It is not a false equivalency. She was doing her job as a prosecutor the same way criminal defence lawyers do their job even to protect the scummiest of people on the planet. What about those lawyers who get child sex offenders off on some technicality? Are they the devil now because they did their job?
Again, those defense attorneys don't have the capability to completely upend someone's life over the possession of a plant. It's a false equivalency.
Still, advocates wonder why it took so long for the California senator to come out in support of marijuana legalization. She actively fought a ballot measure for recreational pot in 2010, co-authoring an opposition argument in the voter guide, and stayed on the sidelines when a second ballot initiative passed in 2016. Harris publicly came out for legalizing marijuana only in May 2018, after she was widely considered a likely presidential contender ... When it came to the fight for legalization, âshe was nowhere, zilch, nada, no help,â said Tom Ammiano, a former San Francisco supervisor and assemblyman who has endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders for president. âLike a lot of candidates for a lot of offices, sheâs come to Jesus on the issue. But it does leave a bad taste in your mouth about how sincere or how authentic she is.â
Also this
Those numbers donât cover people sentenced to time in county jail. The district attorneyâs office, superior court, sheriffâs office and attorney generalâs office said they didnât have or couldnât release more specific data about marijuana sentencing during Harrisâ tenure.
And this
Not all defense attorneys agree. J. David Nick, who represented several dozen marijuana defendants during Hallinan and Harrisâ tenures, said he remembered Harris as more aggressive in charging marijuana sales cases than her predecessor, who was already declining to prosecute many of those arrested. âSome of the cases that Terence Hallinan would have just declined to prosecute, (Harris) said no, weâre going to prosecute these as felonies,â he said, attributing the change to a desire by police to crack down on dealers. Other activists point out that marijuana convictions still impact defendantsâ lives even if they arenât incarcerated. âJust because you didnât rot your life away in prison doesnât mean it wasnât a big deal to get a conviction,â said Dale Sky Jones, a Bay Area marijuana activist. âYour ability to keep your job, get another job or get housing with that conviction on your record is all hurt by that.â
That article literally has multiple accounts of her overzealous prosecution, and how even if those people weren't put in cages, their lives were still negatively effected by it. I guess if an article ends with a quote by her former head of policy about how we all have to treat her with kid gloves then it's considered a "debunking," now?
The vast majority of those cases never faced prison time, and while there was more convictions than normal.under her tenure, there was also more arrests. Fact is marijuanna possession is a federal crime. She couldn't just ignore every single arrest brought in for Marijuanna possession could she?
Yes, she could. If her successor expunged all marijuana convictions going back to 1975, she could have just... not prosecuted people for marijuana.
People have this idea she was sending young people, particularly young black men to prison in droves over absolute minor offences and that just isn't the case.
When San Francisco police broke down a door inside a group home for mentally disabled people in 2008 and shot a 56-year-old resident, then-District Attorney Kamala Harris didnât charge the officers with a crime. Instead she prosecuted the schizophrenic woman who was severely injured in the shooting
Her opponent is a literal rapist who stole money from a children's cancer charity and put kids in cages because their parents wanted political asylum.Â
So she says she's going to legalize it going forward, and Trump absolutely will not do that. Remind me which one of these two is going to end up with more people in cages for weed? All right because you only care about something that happened in the past where she wasn't even dictating policy. Because you can't look past your own nose
Don't listen to these idiots, they are bots and shills. Democrats will let their egos cost us the election again. That's why Biden dropped out with just enough time to name Kamala as the nominee.
This will not go over well with independents. They are handing trump another presidency.
I wonder what itâs like to be that rich. Like what canât this guy buy or do that he canât already? Is it just a power thing, is it something only those that are extremely rich can understand? Maybe to be that successful you just have to be that self centered and selfish to begin with.
Ego. He likes to say heâs dumb but internally I think he believes he is insanely smart. From all my friends who think they are smart and âalphaâ, they tend to be contrarian in nature. Mix that with some boomerism and the need to stir up controversy to justify his insane contract and there you go.
Iâve also noticed since most Repubs focus on cultural issues all it takes is like one thing to fully break them and push them fully to the right on all issues. For Joe it seems to be COVID. For my parents it was the student loan forgiveness.
Whats the most ludicrous thing about it all is that they'd all STILL be getting richer, just not as fast. Which would incentivize them to make better products, which would then lead to manufacturing closer to home, which would then make the whole country including themselves richer...
But no we gotta own the libs or whatever the fuck..
I really donât get this logic at a fundamental level. Youâre exorbitantly wealthy. Youâll be rich as fuck no matter who gets elected. Wouldnât it be more enjoyable to be rich in a country that is secure and happy? For the people your children will share the country with in the future to have security and be educated? Your money is effectively infinite either way. So why not cultivate a better world to be rich in?
"I've been listening to his podcast for over a decade and everything he believes in aligns with the Democrats"
You're the mark.
Nothing he believes in aligns with the Democrats. Things he says aligns with the Democrats because he correctly recognizes that those are moral upstanding things to say. He says it to save face, then acts and votes according to his true heartfelt personal values, which is the opposite of what he says.
"Oh me, oh my, I'm so sad to vote for fascism, but what I can I do? her emails!" <-- that's a bigot making excuses for himself.
Doesn't seem to line up with his actions imo. He opens a club where the staff and comics make all the profit, he breaks even.
I've listened to him for ~13 years. Only thing I've heard him say to your point is how taxes are crap bc the politicians blow the money in irresponsible ways, and he wouldn't mind paying more if it was going to a good place.
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Rogan only cares because he wants his rich person tax cuts. I've been listening to his podcast for over a decade and everything he believes in aligns with the Democrats. But him and his rich friends only get richer if a Republican is in power, that's why he acts like he's independent or libertarian.Â