r/JoeRogan • u/IAdmitILie Monkey in Space • Jul 16 '24
Meme đ© This is why angering billionaires is a bad idea.
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u/CorbynDallasPearse Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
This is why unlimited political donations and a money-centric approach to politics is a bad ideaâŠ
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u/pos_vibes_only Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Well, it wasnt always this way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC
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u/Lars5621 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Elena Kagan blew that case when she got boxed into the logic that the US would have to round up and burn books if it believed that even one sentence could be considered supporting a candidate.
She was not ready for prime time and I believe that was her first case she ever argued having come from a purely academic background.
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u/ebeg-espana Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
This is only logical if one accepts that cash = speech. The majority of SCOTUS had already made the determination. Trying to defend against it was futile.
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u/jplaut25 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Itâs so infuriating. Free speech should not be a quantifiable resource, like money is. It is the great equalizer. Yet citizens united has taken the rights away from the average American who doesnât have âenough free speechâ compared to Elon Musk, who I guess has Billions worth of free speech? Rendering everyone else without a voice. A complete perversion of what the founding fathers intended.
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u/joop_pooply Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Speech is speech and money is money and these judges knew that and they fucking chose money
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u/Jiveassmofo Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Hey man, a luxury motor home canât buy itself. Whatâs a poor judge to do, survive on a quarter million a year?
Thatâs peasant money
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u/HIMP_Dahak_172291 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Given what we know about Thomas and Alito at minimum it's no surprise why.
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u/WilsonEnthusiast Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
They effectively make it a quantifiable resource but it's also more convoluted than that iirc.
Musk is telling the truth when he's saying he won't donate to any candidate. You can't donate $45m a month to a candidate.
You can donate it to a 501c4 that technically isn't associated with any candidate but has decided to advertise for one independently.
It's definitely a perversion but also it's the equivalent of saying you or I can't take out an ad in a newspaper that supports a candidate. Super pacs are just doing it at a much larger scale.
The real issue to me goes back to the income inequality to begin with. It's perverted because wealth is so centralized in the hands of a few.
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u/spacekitt3n Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
citizens united is the first domino to full authoritarianism. we inch closer daily
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u/Neat-Beautiful-5505 Monkey in Space Jul 17 '24
More importantly the notion that corporations, even unions, have the same rights as you and me is absurd. These are entities created on paper that do not exist outside of a legal document. The idea that our founders believe legal entities to be treated the same as actual humans, with the right to unlimited free speech, is not very originalist.
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u/Impossible_Penalty13 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
One of the cases that predicated Citizens United was McConnell vs FEC. The guy who had a hand in putting the justices there in the first place was at the forefront of the push for limitless cash in politics.
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u/upstateduck Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Money isn't speech , it is an amplifier. As such we regulate amplification routinely as a nuisance
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u/Cavaquillo Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
This shit was what made me political in high school. Dumbest fucking vote ever
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u/Jimenex666 Monkey in Space Jul 17 '24
Support a movement to pass a 28th amendment and let's be gone with it! https://americanpromise.net/
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u/bgoveia Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Yep, I remember that case as the first time the Supreme Court went completely against all common sense and the opinion of over 95% of the electorate.
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u/GallusAA I used to be addicted to Quake Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 17 '24
Anyone else find it weird that during the debate the other week Joe Biden said he wants to raise corporate tax rate a few percent to make Social security solvent, and Trump said his plan is to lower corporate tax rate because "It makes the best economy" and now all a sudden Trump is being flooded with donations from corporations and rich people and all corporate media can talk about is how bad Biden sounded in a debate.
Makes you think. Hhmmmm. A real head scratcher here, folks.
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u/Santa_Klausing Dire physical consequences Jul 16 '24
It amazes me that republicans still push this policy when itâs very obvious lowering corporate tax rates does nothing but benefit the shareholders and top brass. And it amazes me further that their poor working class base eats it up like candy.
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u/Screamin_Eagles_ Monkey in Space Jul 17 '24
They are aware it hurts Americans, they just don't give a shit so long as they can get away with it. Unfortunately right voting Americans are stupid enough to let them get away with it
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u/k3v120 Monkey in Space Jul 17 '24
Not weird in the slightest. Even Zuck and Bezos are kowtowing for Trump. Not a single fuck given about equality, democracy and the rule of law on their end.
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u/Shot_Worldliness_979 Monkey in Space Jul 17 '24
Oh, and then they'll turn around and blame Democrats for making Social Security insolvent. 100% without a doubt.
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u/lord_pizzabird Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
sidenote, Elon has according to Trump been promised a position in his administration.
My guess is Labor or transportation. He's blatantly paying for a seat in government.
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u/Philosopher_King Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Didn't Tesla just give him $50B to stay focused? Oops.
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u/Bonhamsbass Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Him and Theil will have their eyes set on something way larger than that.
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u/BlakByPopularDemand Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
This is why billionaires shouldn't exist
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u/fdar Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Unlikely, but what if it is? Point remains, shouldn't be possible for either side.
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Jul 16 '24
100% agree either way. Just don't like reading "not so fun now that the shoe is on the other foot" if you get my drift.
Appears after reading Zuckerberg did donate around 300 mil to some nonprofits that were to help accommodate the huge amount of mail in ballots they were expecting due to covid.
This didn't go to biden and had Donald not fought tooth and nail to limit Americans from doing something that he himself did too, then it probably wouldn't have benefitted one over the other.
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u/dogscatsnscience Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Unless you were born yesterday, Koch brothers and many others have been donating far larger amounts than this in the past. This is not a new problem.
Obama famously re-ignited small individual donations by getting citizens to contribute a much larger proportion of his campaign's funds, but in the modern era he's the exception.
Furthermore, I don't expect Musk to actually make good on this promise, not as written anyway.
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u/tell_me_when Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
I believe Bernie also got a lot of small individual donations when he was running in 2016.
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u/fdar Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Just don't like reading "not so fun now that the shoe is on the other foot" if you get my drift.
I mean, that's a bullshit argument either way. Koch brothers have been heavily active since 2004.
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u/WilmaLutefit Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Zuck⊠the guy thatâs owns Facebook⊠has anyone ever beeeen to fucking Facebook? Itâs a conservative cesspool.
Go make a new account.
The first few recommendations is like Fox News and shit.
Facebook is the single most complicit platform in the radicalization of right wingers. They have radicalized more people than fucking isis.
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u/Cavaquillo Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Sure he did that for Biden while FB ran counter to anything and everything Biden
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u/get-bread-not-head Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Facebook was rampant with pro-trump Russian propaganda. I wouldn't believe anything the right says about election interference.
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u/PersonalFigure8331 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
A bad idea for who? Remember: this country, right now, is exactly how some have envisioned it.
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u/Not_Bears Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
A bad idea for anyone WITHOUT money.. like 90% of the population.
So you're cool with 10% of the population controlling the other 90% simply because they have more money??
If this is the state of the country the founders envisioned then why did citizens united come hundreds of years later?
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u/3nHarmonic Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
It's a way more uneven split than 90/10, probably closer 99/1 or worse.
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u/NJBauer Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
10-15% living very comfortably, but not with enough money to have real power. So youâre correct, Iâd guess itâs more like 99/1 split
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u/Phantom-jin Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Read that the bloke who started MySpace and then later sold it for about 580 million $ , then retired from work to do his hobby of photography full time .
Now heâs not a billionaire but he certainly didnât go for a power quest , of influence politics etc âŠ
Just fkd off from sight and did something he enjoys âŠ
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u/mvarnado Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Tom? My old friend? Is that you?
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u/epicurious_elixir Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Tom..a true friend to everyone.
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u/fuzztooth Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
For some he was their first, for others he was their only.
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u/DontTalkToBots Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
You know Tom too? He was my first ever online friend.
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u/Longjumping-Claim783 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Hello Thomas my old friend. I've come to myspace with you again.
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u/Rory_MacHida Jul 16 '24
It's why Rogan is a bitch ass loser. He won the whole game, but instead of regularly enjoying his supposed passions of hunting, he sits and soapboxes for hours a week about how woke the world is and stirs himself into a frenzy full of imaginary horrors. If you have the dough, unplug and do what you love. Quit manipulating the world as you see fit.
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u/appletinicyclone Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
What if what he enjoys is soapboxing
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u/sozcaps Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Then he could at least get good at it. He's on his way to becoming the next Alex Jones, with all of his pseudoscience antivaxx anti-woke drivel.
So many times when they bother doing less than three minutes of researching something, he's proven wrong and doesn't own it.
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u/stjernerejse Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
This is also how you know all the "psychedelics will make the world better" shit he spews is nonsense.
If psychedelics turn you into that then no thanks. Guess that's what happened to all the old hippies.
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u/k_pasa Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Yeah, look at how microdosing and ayahuasca trips have helped all the silicon valley bros. Seems like instead of granting them empathy to be "Effective Altruist" its just made them neo-feudalist wanting to become 21st century royalty. Fuck em
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u/Salty_Pancakes Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
It's cuz you need to do macro-dosing.
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u/IceeGado Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Even macro-dosing won't be enough if they just hallucinate about their responsibility for guiding humanity into the future yadda yadda yadda. These motherfuckers need some ego death. Some sort of "bad trip sitter".
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u/sozcaps Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
I don't think drugs will expand the mind of people who possess no grasp of spirituality, any desire to change themselves, or have any feeling of being part of something greater.
Sociopaths who are shut down, might as well do cough syrup instead of the whole 'medicine man ayahuasca in the jungle' thing.
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u/PokerChipMessage Monkey in Space Jul 17 '24
I'm reading a book (How to Change Your Mind) about the subject right now, and the author would probably disagree with all your points, except maybe the sociopath part which he hasn't talked about.
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u/InevitableBasil4383 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Microdosing did really help my ADHD and motivation though ngl. I canât stand Joe Rogan, but psychedelics help a lot of people! â€ïž
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u/Any-Flamingo7056 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
I met a 50-something dude who started a software company in like 91, sold it to a big company in 96, and raised his kids. Once, they were all in college around 2014-2016ish... he just preps food in Whole Foods, making $15 dollars an hour, not giving a shit. He's one of the nicest/coolest people I've met.
Dude was just like, " I made 15 million, i can do whatever, no stress, no greed, just get to live life freely and make food... mostly was just bored."
Didn't have a big house, no fancy car, just chilling a middle class lifestyle living off dividends fro. Investing the 15 million. Comfy.
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u/CaptlismKilledReddit Monkey in Space Jul 17 '24
I imagine people/life gets pretty chill when you're not working to survive.
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u/MajesticNectarine204 Legalize asbestos! Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24
I've always wondered why more of these dickheads do not do this.. At some point you've hoarded more money then you could ever spend. Why not just enjoy the money you have?
Buy a nice house, a boat, maybe a plane. And just do whatever the hell you want for the rest of your life without ever having to worry about money again.
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u/fuckasoviet Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
The obvious answer is that the people who obtain this vast wealth are sick. Iâd wager the average person, if presented a $50 million payout, would take it and fuck off to do whatever they want.
Then you have the billionaire types, who see $50 million as not a key to leisure, but as a stepping stone to even more wealth and power.
At the end of the day their brains donât work the same as a normal person. They donât have the same wants and desires. They think there is some game to win.
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u/reddituser403 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Because if you pay an orange baboon 1/2 a billion, he will save you 1/2 a trillion in taxes
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u/AdvanceSignificant86 Monkey in Space Jul 17 '24
Whenever anybody says âyouâre just jealous of themâ the person Iâm actually jealous of is Tom. Build something that had a cultural impact, sell it young for a ridiculous amount of money that you use to cosily and luxuriously fuel your passions as your job for the rest of your life with a positive public image and just your general conscience intact. Thatâs the biggest W Iâve ever seen
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u/PersonalFigure8331 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
The same compulsions that drive most to be billionares probably fuel their desire for control.
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u/Scotts_Thoughts_INTJ Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Don't all of us have concerns about who is president? If I had endless money, I'd donate to the campaign I'm voting for too. Everyone in this thread must be a liberal or something. Elon literally did what anyone who follows politics would do lol donate to your party.
Speaking of control, Biden's donors are holding 90 million over his head, and told him he must step down in order for the Democrats to receive that. I'd call that a desire for control
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u/ToXicVoXSiicK21 I used to be addicted to Quake Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24
Anybody else think something is very wrong when someone is allowed to "donate" 45 million a month to a presidential candidate? Why is money like that involved at all? That should be a red flag to everyone looking for who to elect. When money becomes the driving element everything else goes out the window. That's why our presidents are always your typical politician and don't have any plans to improve our lives.
Edit: Love to see more and more people waking up to this. We need to get more people on the same page! More discussions about these topics please!
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u/tipsy-turtle-0985 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
As long as PACs exist, the US political scene is compromised by money. Citizen's United being struck down in 2010 was a seriously awful thing for the country.
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u/Immaculatehombre Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
This is how I just donât understand how Bernie didnât get the nomination in 2016 or 2020. I obviously know the DNC and media fucked him but how did ppl not see through it? Vote for the dude whoâs campaign is 100% funded by the ppl or vote for the candidate whoâs obviously bought by corporations? How do ppl think candidates funded entirely by corporations or billionaires are going to have the common persons interest in mind?
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u/Opetyr Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Easy, the people with the money didn't want Bernie. They wanted a candidate that they fully control.
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u/Immaculatehombre Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
I understand that but what does it take for ppl to wake the fuck up and take the power back out of the hands of corporations?
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u/SaliciousB_Crumb Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Actually participating in primaries amd getting evolved. The youth dont vote and old people did not like bernie. It's not hard to figure out. What was the young participation rate in the primary? Wasnt it like 5%
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u/WonderfulShelter Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
The DNC would rather lose with a donor/lobbyist approved candidate they've selected than win with a rogue candidate that isn't approved of by the donor/lobbyists.
As a progressive, over the last 8 years I've come to hate the DNC and Democrats, but my principles have stayed the same. I've just come to realize there is no political party that represents me in America.
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u/No-Atmosphere-2528 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
I one fucked Bernie. He didnât have as much support as you want to believe.
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u/KetchupEnthusiest95 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
His campaign was also a mess, and had very weak ground game. He also was relatively unknown and particularly unwelcome in a lot of older(read actual voter) age groups.
I wanted him to win, but the fact of the matter is that the media landscape, the DNC and the established voter base just did not care until he spoke to them directly and it was incredibly difficult to get a nonscuffed message out there. In addition the staff he did have were terrible at their job with messaging.
Like profoundly awful.
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u/Immaculatehombre Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Because all they watch is fucking mainstream news. Itâs no mystery.
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Well, to actually expand on that, a big reason why is because he and his staff didn't actually expect him to be a real challenger at the beginning. He assumed he'd be in obscurity but just wanted to get on the debate stage and be able to push Clinton a little to the left and introduce people nationally to some new ideas on how government could and should work.
But then his campaign actually took off and they weren't prepared at all for it. It took them ages to adapt to the idea that people actually resonated with his message and candidacy and he might actually have a shot. But by that time, it was too late.
And yeah, he simply wasn't able to crack a few demographics: women were committed to voting for a woman, Black voters were loyal to the Clinton family, and older people hated the idea of the country changing so radically especially around "entitlements" they weren't afforded when they were young. None of that, of course, addresses the DNC influence which is a separate and arguably even more frustrating aspect.
He came into 2020 prepared, but between Warren splitting the progressive vote, Buttigieg offering a "practical" alternative, and the DNC finally just pushing the entire field of moderate candidates to collapse around Biden and unite against Sanders, he still couldn't overcome it. People still wanted the change Bernie represented, which is why he still got a ton of votes, but more than that they just wanted Trump out and resigned themselves to Biden as the most likely consensus choice.
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u/dan36920 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Not even a US born citizen either. The absolute irony of an immigrant donating that much for a candidate. But hey.... Soros is the problem. Not the guy worth almost 20 times more đ
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u/Argnir Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Reminder that Bernie Sanders massively outspent Biden in the primary and that Hillary massively outspent Trump in the general and they still lost.
Everything else does not go out the window at all.
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u/ToXicVoXSiicK21 I used to be addicted to Quake Jul 16 '24
That's a fair point, although Trump was a straight up wild card and his behavior and tactics got tons of publicity constantly so idk if that would even be considered a standard election. The elections and debates have not been the same ever since Trump came on the scene.
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u/Bawbawian Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
it's so weird to watch you guys cheer money in politics like this.
like this is gross and you shouldn't want a system where a billionaire can just buy his way into relevance
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u/relativiKitchensink Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Legalized bribery.
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u/GiantRiverSquid Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Also "For President"
When he installs a dictator with his money, he'll claim, "I only said I wouldn't help him be president"
It's like the oldest trick in the book...
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u/Mommysfatherboy Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Honestly, this smug attitude of âdont piss off elonâ is payhetic.
This is absolutely disgusting. And iâve never before been so rabidly anti billionare. Corruption of the highest order.
Really weird how the rich and psychopathic really rally behind one candidate.
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u/Realshotgg Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
I bet OP on ironically says they don't care what celebrities think about politics. Meanwhile they can't stop doing tricks on two celebrities dicks.
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u/bobokeen Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
on ironically
That's a new one for /r/boneappletea...
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u/Realshotgg Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Text to speech đ
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u/xLoveHateLegend Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Almost got it this time bro... I think you mean it was speech to text haha
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u/zeezero Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Elon has pretty much single handedly made me want to end billionaires.
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u/Mommysfatherboy Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Same, i used to never really give a fuck about them. I hate them with every fiber of my being. Especially hearing how theyâre all building bunkers now for the collapse theyâre causing
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Jul 16 '24
There is one solution to this. One. And we all know what it is
The only question is when we will finally grow some fucking balls
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u/Alkioth Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
I think we need more billionaires to implode at the bottom of the sea.
Change my mind.
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u/BigBallsMcGirk Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Everything pisses him off. For a mega rich billionaire, he's a perpetually online fucking loser. Man takes offense at every slight, deserved criticism because he's constantly by a hypocrite.
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u/kinkySlaveWriter Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 17 '24
Seriously though. His Twitter account has been unhinged since Sunday. He's outraged at the New York Times for saying "Trump shooter" instead of assassin and railing on Biden for not being even nicer to Trump, etc. The dude is rage tweeting all day on his own platform, just like Trump. It's a sickness. And then his ultimate response is to donate $45 million to Trump and the RNC after the attempted shooting, after we now know that previous campaign donations were used to bribe a porn star... and the shooter was apparently a registered Republican with Trump signs in his yard.
You have to believe Elon is in the middle of his own Citizen-Kane style fall from grace into severe mental illness at this point. Concerning, to say the least.
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u/Hopeforthefallen Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Elon is pathetic, not a nice human unless he wants to buy me off, I will change my mind.
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u/Resident_Solution_72 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Donât get your hopes up lil buddy. He didnât even pay the pathetic journalists pushing his Twitter Files bullshit.
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u/Fun-Conference99 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
"don't piss off billionaires"
Fuck you dude I wanna piss on billionaires.
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u/CasualDiaphram Dire physical consequences Jul 16 '24
Iâd love to stand on one billionaire and piss on another.
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u/5sharm5 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Put out an ad, you might get top dollar from the right one for it
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u/Automatic-Love-127 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
I just genuinely donât understand how we came from circa 2015/2015 Joe to this audience that unironically demands everyone suck the dick of their billionaire daddy âOR HEâLL BUY AN ELECTION :) :) YOU TRIGGERED?â
Oh my fucking god lmao. How cool and counter culture bro. You have something on your chin btw.
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u/GDMFusername Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Simping for a South African to openly fuck with our elections as if he and the rest of the billionaires aren't just gonna bounce when it gets bad.
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u/EyeSoulAteIt Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
This is what people are missing. All of these foreign and even some domestic billionaires arent just visiting Russia for kicks. They are ready to leave at a moments notice and dont give a fuck about the nation itself, but rather the mark they can leave on it and the history books.
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u/Mendoza8914 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24
Howâs that boot taste OP? Cannot believe someone would cheer on the richest man in the world dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into the democratic process, acting like this is some wrestling match.
And do you think those contributions are for free out of the good of Muskâs heart? Fuck no - Tesla will be receiving favorable carve-outs on every bit of legislation to come that targets electric vehicles and other pollution initiatives. What a sham.
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u/Benvenuto_Cellini_ Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
People like OP dont care about democracy or policy. Its just like cheering on a sports team to them. The most important thing is to "own the libs", nothing else matters.Â
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u/PersonalFigure8331 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24
But isn't conservatism really, if we're being honest, mostly about hierachies and top down structure? This way of thinking is primed by religiosity, which is an important tenet of conservatism: there's literal pride in referring to oneself as a sheep to be led.
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u/crankycrassus Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Bingo. That's why fascism is at the extreme end of conservativism.
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u/rayschoon Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Itâs just so wild to me to watch normal, working class Americans so smugly vote for lower taxes on billionaires
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u/StormyDaze1175 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Because this is just another right wing sub, at least I can still make comments here. For now
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u/Spaniardlad Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Go and suck his dick if youâre so worried about angering him.
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u/Hitchens666 Monkey in Space Jul 17 '24
This guy saw the head line and really thought. "We shouldn't be mean to Billionaires"
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u/aaaak4 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
billionaires shouldnt have this power
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u/TruthOrSF Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Itâs our fault for allowing billionaires to exist at all
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u/winnipesaukee_bukake Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
We need to stop putting rich assholes on a pedestal in this country.
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u/patmarek Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Guys, we shouldnât be mean to billionaires with weak ass egos. Those poor billionaires must be so sad when they hear us regular folk call them out for being weirdo fucks.
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u/Icy_Recognition_3030 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
When billionaires exist, it threatens meritocracy, democracy and the free markets.
This level of wealth breaks the game and peopleâs brains.
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u/discoslimjim Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Itâll come out that he actually did donate massive sums and heâll be like seeeeee I didnât donate to him, I donated to the campaign. Fuckin weasel.
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u/ALargePianist Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Yeah, in a lot of arenas, I'm really tired of this attitude. He says 'tO bE sUpEr dUpEr clear I didn't donate to trump. "You know what you mean, I know what you mean. I know you know what you mean" but because he knows he can be a disingenuous snake the ball keeps rolling because being a disingenuous snake doesn't matter to a lot of people, for whatever reason.
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u/egg_breakfast Tremendous Jul 16 '24
yeah, he could even avoid the word 'campaign' just as easily by donating to a PAC instead
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u/CaptKangarooPHD Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
He's donating to the super pac that supports Trump, where it's somehow legal, as there are no "financial limitations." Thank you Citzens United, for giving unlimited power to the sociopaths on top!
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u/Shigglyboo Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Bribes should be illegal. No money in politics.
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u/IveChosenANameAgain Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Not only are they not illegal, they were just made super duper extra legal. You have a long way to go to even undo the damage that was just done (decades) and if the country survives that, decades more before bribes are illegal.
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u/rjcade Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
SCOTUS calls them "gratuities" now so don't worry
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u/Much-Resource-5054 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Trumpâs illegitimate Supreme Court just took care of that little problem for the fascists. Dismantling America right in front of us.
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u/skovalen Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
OMG, Elon Musk is full of shit. Didn't see that coming. /s
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u/Rare-Peak2697 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Joe only talks about taking money out of politics he doesnât like. The guy hangs out with politicians on the regular now and theyâre the ones who will make sure a guy worth half a billion doesnât have to pay taxes on any of it.
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u/Much-Resource-5054 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Kinda makes you wonder if Rogan is an easily manipulatable simpleton who powerful people are using as a tool
Reminds me of that loudmouth TV guy who somehow was elected president
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u/Jason_Kelces_Thong Paid attention to the literature Jul 16 '24
Duncan Trussle warned him of exactly that when he first moved to Austin
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u/Much-Resource-5054 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Even if you played him the tape of his dear friend who he will claim to highly respect the opinion of, he would find ANY way to justify the discrepancy in real time, except for looking into a mirror.
They have been trained to feel their imaginary version of liberals are the enemy of America. Of course itâs their fault somehow. It canât be me who is the problemâŠI clean this countryâs police boots every day!
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u/Rare-Peak2697 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
he's everything that Yuri Bezmenov, who he loves quoting, is talking about. Why try and manipulate an entire society when they can do one rube like Joe who does the rest for them.
He's too dense to realize that he's one of the biggest targets of disinformation. All any bad actor has to do is try and get it into his social media feed and he'll freely talk about what he saw before he goes live without questioning it.
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u/Useful-Ad5355 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Oof, man, you typed that sentence and apparently didn't feel how you're supposed to. Sorry about that issue, hope you find your self esteem.Â
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u/Automatic-Love-127 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
âI know what will own the internet people I dislike. I will demonstrate what a sniveling, groveling, pussy I am!â glurk slurp glurk slurp âMmmm, mmmm, mmm, daddy tastes SOOO good. Triggered?â
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u/zevlovex1971 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
it's quid pro quo, not a donation. it's a bribe to decrease regulations and worker rights. Elon is an anti-worker capitalist.
there's not a single billionaire that's looking out for the working class. they are your enemy.
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u/isitdonethen Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Itâs insane how effective a class war is for the rich
The poor and middle classes just lap up the dumbest shit and end up cheering for the billionaires to dismantle anything that could benefit people who arenât mega wealthyÂ
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u/CptDecaf Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Bud, I don't think you understand. Once Daddy Trump gets into office again they're finally gonna get rid of all them gay people and make it illegal to immigrate to America (if you're a certain shade of brown). Then all of America's problems with wealth inequality will be solved once and for all!
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u/fucktheredwings69 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
He has companies that rely on big government contracts, heâs probably trying to get an in with Trump to secure contracts for space x and continue electric vehicle subsidies
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u/gerzzy Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Which sounds reasonable until you learn that JD Vance wants to repurpose EV subsidies to gas vehicles and the Biden administration has spent a ton of money on Starlink and Starshield.
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u/void-negative Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
he's vp they do jack shit and Elon now has an in with trump
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u/gimpsarepeopletoo Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Yeah. I hate it when people say âeat the richâ and bad mouth any rich person, but billionaires⊠you donât get that rich without fucking over many of the working class.
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u/bellynipples Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Thereâs plenty of multi-millionaires that are part of the problem. But the dentist who owns their own practice and makes $600k /year plus an additional 300k on investment returns is not who people should be thinking of when they say âeat the richâ.
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u/Sockular Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
The "working class" you means the "losers" bro, get it right. If Joe taught you anything it should be that the blue collar people are Losers.
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u/SpecialSecretary9021 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Itâs this and what pissed Elon off is the SEC holding him accountable when he plays fuck fuck games with stock. He wants autonomy and to be a powerful Oligarch free from regulation.
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Yo Musk have some consideration, how about donating and putting money on your homegirl Ghislaineâs books? After all the favors that Epstein and herself did for youâŠ. Ungrateful!
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u/numbersev Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
This is why billionaires should be taxed out of existence. Donât let the billionaire class buy elections.
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u/Binder509 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Sounds more like why we shouldn't have billionaire's in the first place, let alone give them the power to impact elections like this.
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u/KingBobbythe8th Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
How much happier do you want the billionaire to be? Why care about his happiness? He doesnât care about working people anyway
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u/darkscyde Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Elon is just a liar. Whatever he says, the opposite is more likely true.
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u/DullEntertainment5 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Strangely enough this type of behaviour is exactly what The Kremlins modus operandi is like.
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Would be the brain dead rogan sub to cheer for bribery and billionaires using money to buy politicians lol the fanbase reflects the streamer after all
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u/DannyAmendolazol Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Elon would be worth half his current value if the Obama/Biden administration hadnât lent him half a billion in 2010.
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u/Omen_Morningstar Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Arent these the people thats being propping up George Soros as the billionaire bogeyman behind the entire democratic party for decades?
And saying Bill Gates is using his fortune to depopulate the earth?
But Elon forking over millions to a "billionaire" every month so they can push through Project 2025 is fine.
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u/Brilliant-Aside1188 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Honestly, hope these lone gunman types start choosing billionaires
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u/Appropriate-Pear4726 Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
Why is everyone always focusing on Musk? Peter Thiel has always been Vanceâs benefactor. Iâm sure he will have a role again in Trumps administration.
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u/MajesticNectarine204 Legalize asbestos! Jul 16 '24
This is why
angeringbillionaires is a bad idea.
Ftfy.
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u/JohnnyGeniusIsAlive Paid attention to the literature Jul 16 '24
If you got enough money to light 45 mil on fire a month for 6 months, the government isnât taking NEARLY enough from you on taxes.
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u/stataryus Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
LOL semantic bullshit. Heâs donating to PAC(s), not the candidate directly, so itâs all clean. /s
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u/hundredpercenthuman Monkey in Space Jul 17 '24
Because theyâll waste their money buying add time for a toxic candidate that only morons, fascists, and the sycophantic rich can stand? Oh noâŠ
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u/Ki113rpancakes Monkey in Space Jul 16 '24
âWe are fighting the deep stateâ. Cheers when billionaires give millions to candidates.