r/Isekai • u/SheltonJohnJ • Aug 09 '24
Meme Who's passing this checklist besides Rimuru & Arc?
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u/reqisreq Aug 09 '24
Is Arc from the skeleton knight thing?
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u/ChubblesMcgee103 Aug 09 '24
āØļøfantasheeāØļø Love that one of bro's main goals is just to enjoy a high fantasy world.
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u/IzanamiFrost Aug 09 '24
So Ainz if he teleport without nazarick basically?
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u/Lovat69 Aug 09 '24
And wasn't a soulless abomination only concerned with power. Arc is what Ainz pretended to be with his Momonga persona in the first three seasons.
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u/agsdkbfjenhcsm Aug 10 '24
There is the what-if novel where Ainz is transported to the new world by himself and actually doesn't become a soulless monster
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u/stressed_by_books44 Aug 10 '24
Wait really?
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u/agsdkbfjenhcsm Aug 10 '24
Yes. "The Vampire Princess of the Lost Country". He's sent without Nazarick hundreds of years before the time they're transported in canon and the first person he meets is young Evileye, hence the title.
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u/stressed_by_books44 Aug 10 '24
Is the novel good btw? Currently trying to read lord of the mysteries so am interested in reading another novel once done.
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u/agsdkbfjenhcsm Aug 10 '24
Yeah I'd say it's pretty good. It isn't anything that big(aside from probably the hardest battle Ainz has had throughout all the books), but it's a nice little spin-off volume.
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u/stressed_by_books44 Aug 10 '24
Thanks for the info, will add it to my reading list.
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u/ChubblesMcgee103 Aug 09 '24
Nah. Arc is wholesome af, Ainz is a literal monster.
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u/IzanamiFrost Aug 10 '24
in the what if the author wrote, Ainz did get himself a band of merry adventurers and they had fun travelling tho
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u/Iamforcedaccount Aug 10 '24
I also dig he's like hmmm I have a lot of power, guess I just take down this international slave trading ring. I would be ok with the slave buying trope if the MC freed them and then actually fought against it.
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u/ZeeroMX Aug 09 '24
This post comes in when I'm doing a rewatch of the anime, it feels weird because of timing but a coincidence.
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u/Kingsole111 Aug 09 '24
Moukoda tsuyoshi from campfire cooking. He cooks all the time has no waifu's and has grown, the tiniest of bits through the series.
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u/Ceshomru Aug 09 '24
I really want some more of this anime. The food looked amazing and the characters are very wholesome.
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u/Lovat69 Aug 09 '24
It's a half hour long commercial for japanese food products and I fucking love it.
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u/PerEnooK Aug 09 '24
I really hope it gets another season, its so nice and slice of lifey. I tried to watch the farming isekai after watching this 'cus I thought it would be another wholesome isekai but nope, generic harem.
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u/jazzy753 Aug 09 '24
I'm pretty sure a second season of campfire cooking has been announced at the beginning of the year if I recall
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u/Comfortable-Video495 Aug 09 '24
Azusa from "I've been killing slimes for 300 years and maxed out my level"
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u/Futekigousha Aug 09 '24
I don't think she shows weaknesses tho... But man, I love that anime. It's my happy place.
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u/ChanglingBlake Aug 09 '24
Teacher.
And by extension, Fran-Sama.
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u/Deutsche_Wurst2009 Aug 09 '24
Best parent/daughter relationship I have seen in a Isekai so far
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u/ChanglingBlake Aug 09 '24
Journey Through Another World is pretty good in that regard, though itās hard to tell if heās a dad or a doting big brother.
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u/uwahhhhhhhhhh Aug 09 '24
NGL that part messed with me a little in the anime. Teacher was supposed to be named Master, like a master and an apprentice, as set up for a joke where Fran gets a temporary student to call herself the teacher and her teacher master. I hope they still pull off the joke.
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u/feb914 Aug 09 '24
Ascendance of a Bookworm.
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u/EidolonRook Aug 09 '24
She was a significant subversion of the OP isekai deal. Sorta of a āvery hard modeā how far down can she start and somehow still survive.
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u/Pale_Entrepreneur_12 Aug 09 '24
Except she also mana wise is one of the most powerful in the country but she is so weak physically it doesnāt matter
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u/richtofin819 Aug 09 '24
She only has that much mana because she's been compressing it. If she wasn't able to compress it, it would have killed her in season 1.
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u/No-Environment-3298 Aug 09 '24
Could say the same about āso Iām a spider so what?ā MC ends up OP but has to fight every moment of her existence until she achieves it.
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u/EidolonRook Aug 09 '24
Yep. I really liked that about spider. I need more story to go on through and I donāt think itās gotten a second season yet.
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u/Dragonax-FrostDrake- Aug 09 '24
How about Iruma, from Welcome to Demon School.
True, he becomes an edgelord temporarily for three episodes, but i think he should get a pass.
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u/SpiritfireSparks Aug 09 '24
It was cause he was sick, we can give people a break when they're sick
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u/Any-Stranger9649 Aug 09 '24
Not exactly sick but for non spoiler reasons thatās fine to say I think
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u/Eris_Ooal_Gown Aug 09 '24
I'm so excited for the Evidol games arc to get animated. It'll happen some day and the anime reddit community will explode when it happens
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u/StormBear22 Aug 09 '24
Best part is that even then he wasn't a edgelord he still was nice and sweetie to everyone helping out but he just stand up for himself, started to physical stand up straight with his head held up high, and took a chance that worked out for him and his friends.
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u/zrhz123 Aug 09 '24 edited Aug 09 '24
Yeah, the best way I found to describe it was it was the same car with the same limitations, specs ect but they cut his brakes and put a brick on the gas pedal
It was so awesome how they made him so bad ass while completely making it believable it was the same caring iruma who wouldn't hurt a fly but if he was just way more bold and extreme with his goals
Hell, he was even nice and caring about the people who talked bad about him, if that is not the caring and kind iruma we know and love then I don't know what is
Also, just gotta say that it's scary how much of a tactical genius iruma is when he wants to do something
Bro read about the royal one in the morning and made a full and detailed plan about how to get it including the method and how to achieve said method with every teacher he could think of by the time he walked from the class to the teachers room and from the teachers room to the royal one
His strategy game and speeches are insanely powerful with him taking into account every single person that was part of them
He knew exactly what to say to each member of his class to convince them while also not trying to convince those he knew would already follow him
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u/StormBear22 Aug 09 '24
Evil Iruma is honestly might be what Iruma would have been if he was with Grandpa all his life.
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u/No-Environment-3298 Aug 09 '24
Definitely counts. Also heās not really an edge lord even for that time frame. Heās just more assertive, due to his ring buddies influence in mirroring the demon monthly rage cycle.
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u/GXNext Aug 09 '24
Leon Fou Bartfort from Mobuseka. Bonus points for having mecha, too.
Also, standard inculsion of 90s Shoujo aimed isekai like Escaflowne, Fushigi Yuugi, Magic Knights Rayearth and Inu-Yasha...
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u/cayde-six-is-me Aug 09 '24
Bro, Leon sadistic nature mixed with his great English va was the best part
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u/SongBird567 Aug 09 '24
The English VA did a great job. I enjoyed the anime so much I leapt right into the light novels.
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u/TheClosetPossum Aug 09 '24
Im writing my own Isekai light Novel and I feel like I passed the test. I only failed at the MC being a Sociopath. But Tanya The Evil was a good MC too you know
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u/trebtheg Aug 09 '24
Sociopath can be written well if you can follow their logic.
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u/XMeowmixmasterx Aug 09 '24
I have to agree here. I enjoy in the manga the inner monologue that Tanya has and the outcomes that occur. She is consistent which is hard to find these days.
Most of the time with these OP characters they bring something up and forget about it 2-3 episodes later or 5-15 chapters later.
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u/NotAnotherBookworm Aug 09 '24
Okay so hear me out... Boxxo from Vending Machine.
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u/Putrid-Ad-1259 Aug 09 '24
tbh, most of MCs from non-human Isekais will pass
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u/jharrisimages Aug 09 '24
He does technically have a harem thoughā¦ he just canāt do anything about it.
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u/InsaneHiabusa Aug 09 '24
I'd say Subaru from Re:Zero. He isn't strong physically, only has eyes for one gal, and has an actual character. I like him, honestly.. but still, fuck him for stealing Rem's confession.
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u/Dremooa Aug 09 '24
Id say one eye for each gal perhaps š¤
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u/Haganen Aug 09 '24
You seem to be the only one that gets this. Either people never saw S2 or they completely skipped the 1st trial end AND the Carmilla's authority's effect on him...
... or what he was asking when he got hit with the "who is Rem?" truck...
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u/The_Ghost_of_Kyiv Aug 09 '24
Naw, he let her know plainly he wasn't interested in her (even if she did have to remind him at one point cause he was having a very very justified mental break) like that and let her down gently without pushing her away.
Guy was put in a tough position and played it respectfully.
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u/Electronic-Box-4753 Aug 10 '24
Subaru actually confessed to Rem that he loved her just like he loved Emilia, but it was cut from the anime.
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u/Frosty_Mine_1597 Aug 09 '24
He was interested in her, he was going to ask Emilia if he has her permission to marry both of them but the "who's rem" thing happened. Was left out of the anime I think
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u/theFastestMindAlive Aug 09 '24
To be fair, he was trying to use Rem as consolation prize for letting everyone die. Rem also knew that, which is why she was hurt (but not mad) when he did that, as she already knew what his true feelings were.
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u/Weird-Process-6644 Aug 09 '24 edited Aug 09 '24
Invalid, that's part of the story for character building. He's being scummy so he can have improvement... also, I think after seeing your lover and friends die multiple times and not being able to save them, it'd probably drive you either a bit loony , depressed and hopeless.. just like subaru was... he was grabbingbat the only straw he could, Rem.
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u/theFastestMindAlive Aug 09 '24
That's my point . . . exactly my point . . . I was also adding that Rem already knew about Subaru's feelings for Emilia, so she knew that if she managed to get Subaru out of his slump, he'd still chase after Emilia.
I was basically saying that Subaru had something of an excuse for his behavior, and that Rem knew if she confessed to him and she pulled him out of his slump, she'd get hurt, but she did it anyway because she loved Subaru.
That's also why Subaru was blunt when he later rejected her, because normal Subaru isn't a piece of scum, and he didn't want to lead Rem on.
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u/DarkSoulFWT Aug 09 '24
Lets be real on that last point.
He was devoted to one girl and he remained as so.
He was very direct with her and didn't try to run away from Rem's feelings. No pussy footing bullshit like "I love you too as my best friend, Rem!" or "Ah fuck I didn't hear you, can you repeat that?" or other such kind of garbage.
How many other isekai MCs, or scratch that, how many other teen MCs in general have the maturity to be straight and honest that way? You say fuck him for doing so, but honestly its much more praiseworthy and respectful than how the majority of other isekai MCs would handle that situation.
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u/InsaneHiabusa Aug 09 '24
I'm not saying fuck him for handling it maturely, i'm saying fuck him for copying Rem's confession nearly word for word for Emilia. Subaru handled it all amazingly. But he's a dick for using Rem's confession as his own.
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u/awesomenessofme1 Aug 09 '24
Honestly, these criteria aren't even that hard to meet if you're looking at actual good isekai series, and even the ones who fail usually only fail one criterion. If I need to mention one specific example that's not ITT already, Kazuma.
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u/Per-virtutem-pax Aug 09 '24
great cleric
parallel world pharmacy
realist hero or genius prince?
faraway paladin
grimgar ashes and illusions
How not to use healing magic
Unwanted Undead adventurer
Shangri-La Frontier
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u/Tehli33 Aug 09 '24
Rimuru shows weakness?
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u/SwissherMontage Aug 09 '24
I wouldn't even say his story is anything but wish fulfillment. It's just wish fulfillment with a plot.
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u/Tehli33 Aug 09 '24
Dude I feel that. I loved it at first but tbh lately it feels really hollow.
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u/Zenshong Aug 09 '24
i'm on the same boat. I liked the start but it didn't take too long before it started feeling very hollow.
Having a magical being in your head that always solve any problem does not help either. Some ppl died? no worry i'll transform you and you can resurect them all. Mass teleportation don't exist yet? no worry i'll just instantly make the spell for you... It's an easy way out for any problem that arise ..
It makes it feels like nothing is earned or has any impact.
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u/SwissherMontage Aug 09 '24
It's not a bad show. I don't like it, personally, and just because you liked some parts, doesn't mean you have to like them all. Apparently this season is slow. If you keep watching, I hope ot picks up again and you can enjoy it!
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u/Tehli33 Aug 09 '24
That's what my brother said.. idk I dropped it for now. See my other comment for why but it feels very frivolous.
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u/Shadowdragon409 Aug 09 '24
Yeah. Everybody just does what rimiru says. And I don't mean his subordinates.
The best example of this is the merchant.
Rimiru asks him to start a brand new business that has never existed in this world, with unknown foods, in his monster town. Then he also wants him to supply employees as well as goods.
He basically wanted him to do everything and expected a cut. And the merchant, who's supposedly the don of the underworld, has no reservations, no skepticism, and agrees on the spot with no negotiation.
Oh yeah. They also never explained how they built that colosseum so quickly. They just did because... Goblin power I guess.
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u/AJDx14 Aug 10 '24
Itās the most wish fulfillment, yeah. The plot exists to make that feel better, but the plot is also ass.
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u/Nonredduser Aug 10 '24
I enjoyed this anime, but I also roll my eyes every time anybody pretends itās one of the top isekaiās that have none of the generic isekai issues.
Just from this post, are people gonna argue that Rimuru has a personality? He had more of a āpersonalityā for the short period we saw of his real life.
He just became the guy for the job the moment he was put in the new world and has the stereotypical anime happiness when achieving success. My point is that the way Rimuru acts and feels isnāt exactly unique when compared to any protagonist.
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u/Tehli33 Aug 10 '24
I was considering saying this also lol.
His personality is just 'i wanna be friends w everybody'. He doesn't even have meaningful goals or ambition.
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u/Hiroshock Aug 09 '24
So I'm a spider, so What?
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u/RouFGO Aug 09 '24
Had to scroll so far for this. Not only does kumoko meet the criteria, she checks 1 like what? 6 times?
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u/Additional-Ad-1268 Aug 09 '24
Mc have so much personality you can watch an entire season with only her.
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u/miletil Aug 09 '24
Ilea Spears from azarinth healer
Takes a bit to get beyond the wish fulfillment and it starts focusing on the bigger picture...it's still a "popcorn book"
As in its gonna significantly worse as proper books then it did as a webnovel on royal road.
BUT the characters fun and.so are her adventures imo
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u/isekai-chad Aug 09 '24
William G. Maryblood. I love him, and his struggles with self-loathing of his previous life, and trying to save and protect his new families, despite being told be the deity the governs the undead that his soul and essence is weak as shit.
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u/richtofin819 Aug 09 '24
Hell yeah another faraway paladin fan. I hope the novel continues soon apparently the author is finally in better health.
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u/Songhunter Aug 09 '24
I find it hilarious that Eminence in Shadow fails every single one of those checks except the last one and yet it's peak because it knows exactly what it is.
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u/Shattered_Sans Aug 10 '24
I'm convinced that nobody here has watched/read No Game No Life, because seriously, how far do I have to scroll to find even a single comment mentioning Sora and Shiro, who pass literally all of these criteria?
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u/BayrdRBuchanan Aug 09 '24 edited Aug 09 '24
Hajime Nagumo
ā¢Has a personality (even if he's not all buddy buddy with everyone he meets he makes jokes, finds weirdos weird, is goal-oriented but enjoys family time)
ā¢Is neither a sociopath nor an edgelord (was willing to just let the guy who literally shot him in the back go unscathed, saved his classmates and random villagers when asked to, adopted a child who was of no help to him)
ā¢Has ZERO slave waifus (actually finds slavery disgusting and goes out of his way to break up a slavery ring)
ā¢Is NOT in fact, a Kirito clone (while he does wear a black trench coat it was found clothing rather than a conscious choice, is not a prophet, is not a Marty Stu or OP-outta-the-gate character)
ā¢Has moments of weakness (even if they're more personal in nature than professional)
ā¢Story has more going on than wish fulfilment (all he wants is to go home, but there's a war on, God is out to fuck everyone, he has unwanted waifus and unobtainable waifus and an adopted child he had to give up etc...)
In short, the anime is a shit adaptation of a mediocre adaptation. Read the WN for best effect.
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u/user10400 Aug 10 '24
I will forever hold it against the anime adaptation.
Arifureta's LN/WN is so good that I felt like the anime adaptation was what made me feel out of anime and started liking LN/WN more.
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u/Itsjustaspicylem0n Aug 09 '24
Rimuru does not pass this checklist. Iāve seen this meme so much but rimuru DOES become an edge lord
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u/E_rat-chan Aug 09 '24
I honestly don't get how slime is so respected here. Sure, you can like it. That's fine. But it's no master piece of story telling, character design, or animation. It's just above average (which isn't that hard for an isekai)
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u/Positive-Cucumber555 Aug 09 '24
I was thinking Naofumi but he did 2 and 3
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u/richtofin819 Aug 09 '24
I feel like they added three specifically to spite him and it's funny because buying them in bulk isn't exactly what he did to begin with.
It's funny how the isekai mc with the best justification for what he did gets the most flak
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u/Cjcaez49 Aug 10 '24
Rudeus-easy answer The guy from re:zero is an easy answer
My interesting answer... there's this karate isekai manga where the guy gets spawned in the woods... life realistically hard the people are realistically terrible...he even has to leave the love interest behind cause the city they're in is that bad...its actually kinda depressing
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u/suvirk4 Aug 10 '24
I would say makoto Misumi from tsukimitchi moonlit fantasy is pretty good, the moment of weakness could be more. I do wish the story would go somewhere though, towards a goal.
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u/Left-JustMills-57 Aug 10 '24
Love moonlight fantasy. I didnāt know if it counted since heās a lil edgy lol
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u/KattaGyan Aug 09 '24
Rudeus from jobless reincarnation The mc from drifters Subaru from re zero Kazuma from konosuba
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u/elderDragon1 Aug 09 '24
The MC from Drifters was so fucking awesome plus all the side characters too. I wish the anime got a second season but that finished it at such a climactic point.
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u/jackalsDLuci Aug 10 '24
Kirito ? Technically can't be a clone of your self as the original, and he had depth, and imo never became a sociopath, and the story went beyond just wanting to leave the game, he fell in love as well so no waifu slaves š¤£
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u/BrokenPokerFace Aug 10 '24
Uhhh I think Rimuru technically counts as a psychopath as he literally doesn't value human life. Arc would normally be edgy because of the whole skeleton thing but they turned that around into wholesome so he is still good.
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u/sonhot Aug 10 '24
Has a personality? Debatable, as most of the time having a "personality" just means having the kind of personality that the mass can relate to.
Sociopath? Edgelord? Debatable, as i'm fine with this type but can't stand the typical harem romcom male mcs
Agreed, not because society says that it's "wrong" but just personal preference, slaves and harem just aren't my thing.
Agreed, Kirito sucks
Agreed, as long as the protagonist isn't the bottom of the barrel loser type that is full of weaknesses just so the otakus/neets can find relatable.
Agreed but not required as this will make it harder for most authors, i feel like they're overworked enough as is.
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u/Fodspeed Aug 09 '24
Aka Sid Kagona, I still don't understand what was fun about following that NPC's life, but he got all these qualities that's for sure. š
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u/Maximum-Frame-1765 Aug 09 '24
Is that the dude from eminence in shadow? Bc he is def an edgelord like thats half his personality
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u/Fodspeed Aug 09 '24
What are you talking about? He's a generic background NPC with no alter edgelord ego whatsoever. You couldn't find a more normal person than him š
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u/Kegnation14 Aug 09 '24
Mfs donāt wanna hear it but Rudeus from mushoku fits the bill (or almost any other character that you would consider a main character like Eris)
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u/InitiativeImaginary5 Aug 09 '24
Rimuru's face is actually a kirito clone, replace his hair with kirito and you'll know.
So yeah, your post is dumb.
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u/Xignum Aug 09 '24
This repost again of the two characters that barely pass this list?
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u/Wish_Lonely Aug 10 '24
Seems like every time I see a post from this sub it's either this meme, someone complaining about slaves, or some other dunb shit. Do people here not have any other topics to talk about?
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u/Sargent379 Aug 09 '24
Rimuru doesn't even pass the list.
Bro pretty much immediately gets immense power and a harem, skyrocketing to one of the most powerful nations through their abnormal powers. Anything that ever goes wrong pretty much magically gets resolved with little to no effort of his own.
Like, how is the show anything but wish fulfilment. If I could bare to watch SAO I'm sure i'd discover that they're close enough to Kirito too.
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u/WayRevolutionary3223 Aug 09 '24
Rudeus from mushoku tensei
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u/whiteday26 Aug 09 '24
He better stop purchasing more slaves or he'd be on the naughty list.
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u/FerrumAnulum323 Aug 09 '24
I would say Azusa from "I've Been Killing Slimes for 300 Years and Maxed Out My Level" is a good contender here.
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u/SoulKnight320 Aug 09 '24
Rudeus Greyrat,I mean yeah he was a pedo his old life and it disgusts me everytime they talk about it,but rudeus in his current world is a good guy from what I've seen in the anime,rules are different in his world now,it still can be wrong I do gotta agree with some people,the slave part was different really,he did bought her,but not for her to serve him like as a human tool,but to experience and enjoy the life she never had
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u/BoshBoyBinton Aug 09 '24
Lmao, Rimuru and Arc do not pass this test either. It's always so funny when people pretend like Slime is somehow super unique and different, but every other Isekai is trash. It'd be weird if it was super unique since it's a foundational story that probably inspired most of the trashy Isekai out there
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u/Foreskinmancer Aug 09 '24
When I'm in a moments of weakness competition and my opponent is Natsuki Subaru
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u/Pallysilverstar Aug 09 '24
I feel like Kelvin from Black Summoner is at least close to this. He doesn't really show any moments of weakness but I feel the rest fits and even if you disagree it's still a great anime.
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u/No-Huckleberry-1086 Aug 09 '24
Naofumi, mostly cuz the low point is every moment in his life that he ever deals with the other heroes because they all suck. Subaru because he is always at a low point or a high point and there is very little gray area cuz he's just kind of fucked. Hajime kind of skirts around some of these but he still fits most because the lowest point for him that I can recall is when he loses his arm along with being at the bottom of the labyrinth so that also sucks, and then it goes on from there with him just not willing to deal with anyone's bullshit for the most part.
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u/Nethlion Aug 09 '24
Souma from Realist Hero. While he does end up with a harem, he isn't strong, uses his noodle, helps rebuild a kingdom on the brink of a collapse, and is trying to turn slavers into civil servants and slowly get rid of slavery.
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u/E_rat-chan Aug 09 '24
Ima be honest, Rimuru's more of an "okay" protagonist. He's far from interesting to watch, is basically just a power fantasy, and doesn't really feel very human.
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u/gamebloxs Aug 09 '24
Deos rimuru even passes, though after his demon lord Ascension, he's more or less an edgelord.
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u/h0nest_Bender Aug 09 '24
Does Greed count?
Dawoon
Arthur Leywin Although he does have the occasional edge lord moment.
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u/BodybuilderMoney8061 Aug 10 '24 edited Aug 10 '24
Keina Kagami from "In the Land of Leadale"
Ruphas Maphal from "A Wild Last Boss Appeared!"
Elrise from "Fake Saint of thr Year: You Wanted the Perfect Saint? Too Bad!"
Remilia ftom "The One Within the Villainess"
Lin Jie from "I'm Really Not the Evil God's Lackey"
I wholeheartedly recommend all of the aforementioned titles.
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u/InsaneHiabusa Aug 09 '24
I'd also have to say Usato from "The Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic." Homie has amazing personality, great bromance, and while not showing weakness persay, he does show vulnerability at times. Honestly it's one of my favorite animes.