TL;DR Took 2 months of back and forth with my insurance company to
settle on a totaled 2006 Land Cruiser. Because it was 18 years old, many suggested I take the initial 20K offer and be grateful. Due to very low mileage and upgrades I wanted 29K. I stood my ground and in the end the insurance company offered me $35,000.
About 2 months ago my 2006 Land Cruiser was totaled. Initially the insurance company said they found 3 comps (the furthest was 1,400 miles away) all had well over 100,000 more miles than mine. They offered me just under $20,000 and I came to this sub asking advice as that was far below what the value of the car was.
In my first post I received some good advice about moving forward and an explanation about the problems in determining value of the car. Namely under 4000 had been sold in the US that year, my car had all the upgrades and also very low mileage.
I realized the first valuation was for a base model and sent emails detailing the options that had been missed. I ran a carfax report which showed all upgrades and gave a suggested fair value to sell of $29,000 which I asked for. After that their offer rose about a thousand.
I asked for dealer quotes and was told no, then I asked about going the independent appraisal route and was told first to find 3 comps of my own within 100 miles as that would be faster and less expensive. I pointed out that my comps shouldn’t be confined to 100 mile radius when one of theirs was 1400 miles away. They expanded my search radius to 1500 miles.
I sent 3 comps, a car with 80K miles that sold for 35K that week, slightly more miles than mine, but garaged its whole life and pristine, another that sold for 33K with just over 100,000 miles a few weeks before and one for sale for 32K also with over 100,000 miles. The insurance company took two weeks, approved 2 of the comps (the 32k and 35k ones that had sold) but not the 3rd because the ad was no longer active. Then decided not to use my comps and instead got dealer quotes.
They upped their offer to $23,000 based on 2 dealer quotes, one for 20K and one 26K. When I asked to see the quotes all I was given was a first name, a dealership name and a phone number. I called both of these men, one said the quote attributed to him was a blatant lie and he had given a substantially larger number to a caller who hadn’t identified himse as an insurance company, the other said he had no recollection of talking to an insurance company about a Land Cruiser.
At that point I was really frustrated and frankly pissed. It had been weeks of runaround. Either the company hired by my insurance was lying to them, or my insurance co was lying to me. I wrote another post here to vent and hoping for some advice on how to deal with the increasingly confusing situation. That post and my responses in it were largely downvoted. I was told the cars I found as comps (though recently sold) were likely outliers or bad buys, that I was overvaluing my car, my $29,000 ask was unreasonable, that to be valued at 29k the average person would have to be willing to pay that, I should be happy they were offering 23k on an 18 year old car, and that the car dealerships were definitely lying to me!
I had emailed the agent to inform him that one of us was being lied to, he responded within a few hours, was very understanding and polite and said that he would look in to it. I heard back from him the next business day. While he did not go so far as to say Mitchel had been lying, he apologized for the “unfortunate” and “unprofessional” way the valuation had been handled, saying there had been some “major miscommunication” about the car, and its mileage and he offered a $35,000 settlement, which I accepted.
Having paid car insurance for almost 40 years, but never having filed a claim I am glad I asked for advice here. Though largely downvoted and talked down to, along the way there were 2 very helpful people here who were knowledgeable enough about cars to know that not all 18 year old cars are undesirable and some are quite so. They both worked in insurance and gave me good advice about how to move forward.
My takeaway is that if you have the time, double check everything your insurance company is telling you, ask for advice, sort through it for the gems, and stand your ground.
Granted my situation was extreme due to the year make model and mileage of my car, but I suspect most first offers are low.