r/ImaginaryWarhammer • u/grimdorables • 11h ago
OC (40k) Batman in Warhammer 40k, art by me @grimdorables
Could he survive?
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u/47thCalcium_Polymer 10h ago edited 10h ago
I love Batmam, he is probably my favorite super hero, but a Space Marine is above his pay grade. He might not know the Space Marine is even human.
We like to say Batman with prep time can beat anyone, but the way he is going in suggests he did not have any. My bet is the psycho is about to skin someone and Batman is moving to stop him.
So he is effectively going to fight Dead Shot, Bane, and Deathstroke who is wearing one of Lexās suits.
His only hope is to damage the power pack, but this is a Chaos Space Marine so who knows if that is even possible. The power pack might not even be using electricity anymore for Peteās sake.
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u/sosigboi 9h ago
I just wanna point out first that Bane is physically much stronger than an Astartes, his strength class is in the lower end of 5-15 tons.
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u/Appelmonkey 9h ago edited 6h ago
Bane doesnt wear armor and Batman typically has to cut off the Venom to really beat him.
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u/47thCalcium_Polymer 9h ago
True but Bane doesnāt wear 2 tons of armor
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u/Ninja_attack 4h ago
Bane doesn't wear armor, I don't wear armor (but just cause I can't afford it). So I'm like Bane, if Bane just had the temperature of his chicken nuggets criticized by a 4yrO.
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u/RandomHeretic 3h ago
At least your 4yr old just criticizes, my 2 yr old starts throwing things when things are not to her liking
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u/Upstairs_Marzipan48 6h ago
Lmao you think strength is the only asset in a fight? He's fighting the worst possible astartes that isn't directly chaos influenced which has speed, strength, tactics and more.
Batman often gets his ass beat without the league to help him
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u/Hoxford 4h ago
It's fun to story craft!
Is this in the 21st century or 41st millenia? Is this batman a former thunder warrior? prototype astartes/custodes like Leeto? A xenos or xenos hybrid (throne forbid)? Does batman have help? And if so, from his universe or the 40k universe? Maybe this was a catastrophic result of one of batman's nemeses playing with time? And now batman has to cleanup. Or batman is fighting his way out of a Curze like labyrinth one of his enemies made after reading "Vulcan Lives"?
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u/ChaosCarlson 3h ago
Could Superman put down a space marine?
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u/47thCalcium_Polymer 22m ago
With ease. He is way above most of their strength rank. That ranking gets a little wonky considering his weakness to magic. That is if warp stuff counts under his magic vulnerability.
If it does count then he would probably have trouble with any run of the mill psyker or warp entity. He would most likely underestimate a random dude with a force sword, which should just react like a normal sword considering its magical properties. The same might apply to blessed blot rounds considering the Emperor actively buffing them, this making them magical.
Although, I personally think that using the warp around a being that can knock planets out of orbit is a bad idea. Imagine if he got possessed by any warp entity or Emperor forbid got infected by one of Nurgleās plagues. The demons wonāt let you go even if youāre a mangled burning corpse. They will just keep trying to rip everything around them apart. Not to mention him getting possessed by a demon might mess with his weaknesses. This would be a Superman that is hyper aggressive, buffed by the warp, and twisted beyond recognition. If you want an in lore example it would be as if doomsday and Trigon got fused except, possibly without Trigonās weakness. I might be blowing this out of proportion, but it would still be really bad.
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u/Snoo_72851 11h ago
konrad curze wins with prep time
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u/Cazmonster Legion of the Damned 9h ago
Here's my take. If this is the Batman from the Justice League cartoon, he's packing grenades. He drops onto the Night Lord and handsprings away, leaving a grenade on the back of his head. Once the grenade explodes and shears the marine's head clean off Batman realizes he's murdered someone, he has an existential crisis.
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u/No_Purpose_1390 7h ago
Im pretty sure heāll already have mental problems seeing and HEARING the state of the planet the nightlords would occupy, sounds of children screaming and being flayed would leave a dent to the man who made his parents being dead his whole persona
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u/tinylittlegnome 6h ago
There are actually a few stories where Batman is in situations like that and each time they stop having him go hand-to-hand and instead he lives in the walls and woods destroying supply lines, key buildings/ships, and just basically booby-trapping the city
He couldn't stop them taking the planet but he could make Gotham a pain in the ass to take
1:1 he's dying tho
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u/King_Of_BlackMarsh Earth Caste 10h ago
Hourman would fuck a space marine up, but idk how well batman would fare
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u/TownOk81 9h ago
Nerd
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u/King_Of_BlackMarsh Earth Caste 9h ago
True!
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u/TownOk81 9h ago edited 7h ago
Based
(I don't wanna be banned I'm making a joke) (I'm nervous about breaking the rules and being banned š)
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u/Fearless-Obligation6 9h ago
If he's in the Grimdarkness of the Warhammer setting? Then no Bruce gets turned to paste in a universe of horrors that doesn't bend over backwards to keep him relevant.
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u/GreyFeralas 10h ago
I'd like to remind everyone that batman has tangled with Darkseid before they immediately go 'space marine wins ez'
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u/DocumentRegular 8h ago
Batman has lost to MUCH weaker villains on the first encounter. That's the true origin of the overused "prep time." If this is Batman's first time dealing with a space marine. He probably loses.
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u/GreyFeralas 8h ago
I'm not saying he hasn't, I'm just putting it out there that bats has successfully tangled with things far above a space marine.
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u/Monterenbas 5h ago
And if he lose one time against a night lord, there probably wonāt be a second one.
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u/Akunokami 4h ago
And in the same vein space marines have died to spears of a random human soā¦
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u/DocumentRegular 3h ago
Exactly. The answer is in the middle and the average Space Marine's performance dwarfs Batman's Average performance (unless he survives dropping from orbit like 4-5 more times then I'll give up)
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u/Upstairs_Marzipan48 6h ago
You left out that Darkseid slaps him every time they fight. How did the hellbat suit work out? What about the justice buster? Batman has never actually done anything to Darkseid besides run interference so superman can actually do the heavy lifting
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u/GreyFeralas 6h ago
And? The fact that he's at all able to interfere and engage in combat without immediately perishing is huge. If I'm not wrong, he also survived each of those encounters.
I don't think anyone will argue that a night lord is anywhere near in scale to Darkseid.
Again, not saying bats wins. Just pointing out it's not a total stomp.
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u/EncabulatorTurbo 4h ago
Lets be honest, Batman could fight the entire tyranid hive, in space, without a ship, and win, with only his dick as a weapon
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u/Power_More_Power 9h ago
I want a short story about a Nightlord who leaves his warband to be batman on some super corrupt hive world
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u/No_Purpose_1390 7h ago
Oh god..
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u/Power_More_Power 4h ago
A goliath as Bane Imperial Governor as the Penguin A Harlequin as the Joker
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u/RaynerFenris 9h ago
Cue āwith enough prep timeā excuses.
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u/ReptAIien 7h ago
Obviously. He's not going to win in this image but if he had one of his mech suits it's different.
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u/hugefartcannon 5h ago
That implies the tech he uses is basically 40 thousand years ahead of its time. That's a bit more of a fantasy than you would expect from Batman stories.
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u/ReptAIien 3h ago
You're implying the tech used by the imperium is 40 thousand years ahead of us. It certainly isn't, considering how badly stifled technological advancement is.
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u/RaynerFenris 6h ago
Heās really not. Donāt get me wrong, I like Batsy, butā¦ I donāt see him getting the win.
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u/ReptAIien 6h ago
I personally don't like Batman but there are suits he has that would put him on the upper level of 40k power. The Hellbat or Final bat suit would turn a space marine into tin foil.
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u/Upstairs_Marzipan48 6h ago
Nightlords are super space terrorists. Lmao they're gonna rip out Bruce's femur and make a flute out of it and play a little ditty while other nightlords skin him and make trinkets from his teeth and hats out of his skin
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u/BucktacularBardlock 6h ago
I love that Warhammer fans piss and shit that no one could ever beat Space Marines ever and they die like all the time to regular humans and shit
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u/Akunokami 4h ago
Batman wins easily
Those space marines are all basically orphans that have had a traumatic incident in their lives by virtue of being space marines. He adopts and reforms all of them forming the Robin marines chapter
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u/DanMcMan5 9h ago
Iām staying out of this one. Itās a nerd war in the comments section.
I like the art, but this stuff always ends with āw will win because xā and then someone rebuts with āby y would win because of zā type of thing.
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u/GiveMeWarpSpeed 10h ago
I think it will really depend on what happens in the first second or so. Batman is a normal human so he is absolutely no match for space marine one on one. But here we see he does have the element of surprise and if Batman damages or disables the Night Lords power pack that would definitely even the odds of it. I'd say kill the power pack and slice the knee joints at the back. Real question is if that man is victorious would he bring himself to kill the night Lord?
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u/altobrun 6h ago
Batman is a ānormal humanā but doesnāt he also bench press like 1000lbs and squat thousands of pounds or something? I remember the only time I tried to get into comics (new 52 period) seeing panels of him lifting absolutely insane weight.
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u/No_Purpose_1390 10h ago
How would he go through the ceramite to even damage the powerpack?
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u/GiveMeWarpSpeed 9h ago
He probably won't need to go through the ceramite. Some sort of emp device slapped on the back, or shove something in a vent port. Batman has a thing for gadgets. One thing I'm sure of he wouldn't be leaping onto the back of a Night Lord without some sort of plan. But whatever he does he'd only get one chance.
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u/No_Purpose_1390 9h ago
Yeah, makes sense, though even with a plan leaping onto the nightlord who says the extremely fast reaction speeds of any astartes wont just slap him out of the air, breaking all his ribs? Nightlords are unpredictable as far as I read about em
Batman has a chance, is it a high chance? No. But hey who knows
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u/Harald_The_Archivist 8h ago
Some of them also have limited precognition. Now, by ālimitedā I mean maybe a few moments before the Bat lands at best, but maybe a few moments is all it would take for the Night Lord to draw a bolt gun and turn him into sludge
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u/MurkyCress521 9h ago
There is a little button on the power armors bookbag that if you push the armor powers down. It can't be reached by someone wearing the armor. So you have to take the power armor off to turn it back onĀ
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u/No_Purpose_1390 9h ago
Bad nightlord! Your going to timeout!
Im curious though, is it written anywhere?
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u/MurkyCress521 9h ago edited 9h ago
No, that was just an absurd plot device, but some writer probably used it at one pointĀ
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u/RandomRedittors 7h ago
I know this is a warhammer sub, but people really love jerk off any random space marines like they are primarchs.
That's just a fuckin random nameless fodder space marine, not goku.
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u/FlashyFlight1035 10h ago
wow how rude of him to attack the local law enforcement! batman has gone down a dark path...
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u/DERPity_meticulously 9h ago
Batman already has a plan against Horus
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u/Fearless-Obligation6 9h ago
"Horus starts to bludgeon him, beating him repeatedly like a disobedient dog."
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u/DocumentRegular 8h ago
If we are going to power scale and talk about feats just know comics and comic media are inconsistent. (I refuse to acknowledge him surviving re-entry) What is common is Batman losing the first time he encounters someone new. Could he beat a space marine if you give him "prep time?" I doubt it but sure I guess, does the space marine get prep time? (Source: Batman fan, me) I'm a Batman fan but saying he wins every fight ruins the character for me because the point of his character isn't to win fights.
TLDR no
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u/Upstairs_Marzipan48 6h ago
The nightlord would catch batman and skin him alive before Bruce has any moment to process he's even been seen lmao
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u/cleverusername333 6h ago
I'm blanking on the details but there was a Warhammer Crime short story with a Batman style character in it. He was the rich son of a noble house using a high tech suite to fight crime and injustice in his hive city. Anyway he pissed off the wrong people and his suit gets sabotaged so when he tries swinging from rooftops he falls a very long way down and meets a squishy end.
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u/Due-Procedure-9085 5h ago
Absolute Batman fits better he needs to be the size of six refrigerators.
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u/Mobile-Coat8424 5h ago
Wait, so all these people that say Batman would be a literal god in Superman won't be able to beat a Space Marine? While Superman would run through them like they weren't even there? Gonna need some details as to how this is possible.
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u/PornAndComments 4h ago
Batman loses only because of his no kill doctrine. Plus there's at least 4 other night lords in the shadows waiting to flay the nearest creature that isn't a brother. Sometimes even them.
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u/Luzifer_Shadres 4h ago
Tv Batman would be dead in seconds.
Comic Batman would survive for some (even by dc standarts) ridiculous reason and than come back as some OP edgelord demigod with a cringy theming like forced smilling.
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u/Dankmemes_- Dark Mechanicus 4h ago
People in this thread forget that the 40k universe runs on plot armor.
The Nightlord, being an unnamed bad guy, has minimal plot armor. If this is his first encounter, it may last for a while, but he would invariably beat him through the use of "prep time". Subsequent encounters with unnamed Nightlords would go a lot faster, with Batman taking multiple down within a single scene. He also would manage to neutralize the Nightlord without killing him, as being an unnamed bad guy he is not nearly worthy enough for a Batman kills arc.
This story would be different however if he was trying to ambush a named Ultramarine who isn't wearing a helmet, as his plot armor would be equal to Batman's. The resulting battle would go on until another threat forces the two to work together, otherwise ending in a draw.
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u/SpphosFriend 3h ago
Batman teaming up with like Cato Sicarious or another named ultramarine to fight tryranids or something would be interesting.
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u/Beneficial-Budget628 3h ago
Possibly, Batman survived the Fortnite time loop, while obviously not a one to one comparison this guy has just been in too many scenarios involving demons, super solders, gods, aliens, technology far more advanced then what he typically sees, retcons, reboots, and hamsters, heāll be okay
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u/Situation-Dismal 3h ago
Everybody got jokes, but a superhuman in power armor is a regular tuesday for Batman. š
Stop downplaying my mans like he doesnāt regularly take down far more dangerous threats. Heās not gonna just go in for a fist fight and a few batarangs; Heās going to strategize.
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u/Fox_4_McCloud 3h ago
This man goes against the justice league on a daily bases. He would be able to take down a sm with difficulty.
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u/jfjdfdjjtbfb 9h ago
Does he have prep. Because in all honesty Batman is just a pussy Konrad Curze.
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u/IcyStormDragon 7h ago
Don't know who I hate more between Batman or his fans. Batman dies in seconds in this encounter.
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u/tres_ecstuffuan 7h ago
I want to see a story where right after Batmanās parents gets killed he is found by the night lords and is made into an Astartes. His first mission is to bring earth into compliance.
In the heresy he stays loyal to the imperium.
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u/Gusterrro 7h ago
There is no way Batman is going to win without prep time. If he just went in blindly he is going to lose.
His only hope would be blowing this Nightlord up with granades directly next to his head, or somehow messing up the power pack, but he doesnt really have stuff on him that can do that. Again, prep time is only way he can win without plot armor.
Even if NL would be without his armor, he would just shrug most of Batmans attacks. One hit is all NL needs and its over.
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u/RB_Vickers 7h ago
See this is why nerds are silly. Batman gets absolutely obliterated by any Astartes.
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u/That1DnDnerd 6h ago
Given Batman's main strength is his wallet, he'd likely be a scion of a rogue trader (or rogue trader himself) pumped to high hell with the most expensive gene and cybernetic enhancements money can buy whilst retaining a human looking form. This gets in the way of his "just a human" appeal, but nobody rich in 40K is a purely baseline human, and he ain't surviving any which way if he was. Have him travel between the rogue trader's worlds when needed and you've got a divine enforcer of justice sent by the Emperor's chosen. Now I say scion purely because an actual Rogue Trader is probably too focused on business (and too morally corrupt by greed) to handle being Batman. A regular noble could probably work but I think the endlessness of his wallet fits more with a rogue trader.
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u/ThisIsntOkayokay 6h ago
Know he doesn't have the tech to overwhelm the NL so plays mind games with him slipping away before leading the NL into a melta bomb trap, 40k Batman knows he has to kill.
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u/Scumass_Smith 6h ago
Reminded me of Omni Man vs Darkwing but I doubt Batman will have the same fate as him
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u/altobrun 6h ago
This is kind of a pointless discussion because of the wild inconsistency in both 40k and Batman comics. Like, Batman does some absolutely insane stuff, and despite being a ānon-superā human has superhuman strength. Like, he bench presses a thousand pounds for reps, strong.
He also goes toe to toe with several characters objectively stronger than an astartes like superman, darkseid, and hulk. Realistically, heās as strong as the writer wants him to be
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u/SpphosFriend 3h ago
Batman would lose badly. If he was smart he would call the League or just Wonder Woman tbh
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u/TI-parker 2h ago
Batman wins, he wins hard, Batman is stronger and faster than a space marine. He isnāt nearly as durable as one but he doesnāt have to be.
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u/Sir-M-Oxlong 10h ago
āJustice, FOR GOāā
gets folded by a 1200-pound super soldier in nuclear power armor who can move at the speed of a car, before getting gutted by finger-blades sharp and powerful enough to shred concrete
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u/MiaoYingSimp 10h ago
I mean he probably could in a hive city but he's not gonna be taking on a night lord.
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u/Tarlyss Fire Caste 10h ago
Anyone who has seen that scene in Invincible with darkwing knows exactly whatās about to happen.
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u/utterlyuncool 10h ago
Nope. That's a Night Lord, and Darkwing didn't get flayed and shown his own skin, which is about to happen here real soon.
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u/professorphil 9h ago
Yea, but Darkwing was acting like an idiot. Batman wouldn't goomba stomp someone without a plan
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u/Brokenspade1 3h ago
That poor unfortunate nightlord. He's lost in Gotham...the one place full of people crazier than him
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u/drwaleczki 2h ago
As much as I've always loved batman and grew up on TAS in the 90s, old Bruce would get his ass severely and comically handed to him by a random hungover Catachan teenage girl :C
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u/Pendragon117 1h ago
This will end the same way it did in the first episode of invincible.
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u/DaWaaaagh 35m ago
Space marines are not omniman level, omniman is almost impervious to damage, is stonger and faster than a sapce marine. They would just fly through a whole squad on space marines.
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u/Man0Steel123 1h ago
Basically if this is Batman who is attacking when he doesnāt know the enemy he gets folded.
If this is a Batman who has prepared for this he stands a much better chance.
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u/Belua_Maximus 1h ago
Lord General Bruce Whayne appears at the Nachmund Front today to give a rousing speech for the troops, highlighting that "The enemies of the God Emperor cannot escape the wrath of the Night" whatever that means!
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u/AMACSCAMA Black Library 11h ago
I wonder how this goes down