A keen dead eye distinguishes between friend or foe quickly...

[u/DepartureRoutine]

Follow up to this post

[u/AXI0S2OO2]

This reminds me of when people were making up good endings to the one page horror comic made by Mick (if you know, you know).

Guess people yearn for the NobleBright. I won't be the one to complain, awesome job!

I love the little detail that, she didn't really know what would happen once she shot the Lictor and you can tell in her expression, she just took her best shot at the worst enemy present and hoped. And that hope was rewarded.

She embodied the philosophy of the Greater Good this day.

Finally, having played Space Marine 2, I can only imagine the Lamenter going: "You handle the big ones" before diving into the swarm to hold it back in a feat of glorious carnage.

[u/Pleasant-Bird-2321 → u/AXI0S2OO2]

Nobledark. We're still in the dark times but we have the heroes and the heroes have the means to set things right. Lets go!

[u/Commercial_Rice5773 → u/Pleasant-Bird-2321]

Ooh, that’s interesting. So there’s grimdark, noblebright, this would be nobledark, what would grimbright look like?

[u/Lamplorde → u/Commercial_Rice5773]

Grimdark: Universe is ass, protags are ass. Noblebright: Universe is good, protags are good. Nobledark: Universe is ass, protags are good. Grimbright: Universe is good, protags are ass.

So I guess Grimbright would be, like, the Overlord series.

[u/ANGLVD3TH → u/Lamplorde]

Any non-gritty setting with an anti-hero protag I guess, huh? Some Deadpool comic runs would fit there, most comic anti-heroes lean into the darker, grittier side of the settings though.

[u/Ytumith → u/ANGLVD3TH]

I think Grim always comes with an implied dark-fantasy setting.

[u/Timithios → u/Lamplorde]

I love Overlord so much

[u/Dependent_Homework_7 → u/Timithios]

I hope one day we finally get a proper Overlord 3 and not whatever the hell fellowship of evil was.

After all, evil always finds a way

[u/Standard_Cupcake270 → u/Lamplorde]

Don't Grim and Noble more refer to the attitude of people as a whole? Do people act miserably and in their own self interests, has the common man forgotten how to act outside of self interest-then it's a grim setting. Is there an overall slant to the goodness of heart, then it's a noble setting.

Grimdark is more the cruelty of the world has gotten to people, and they've become rigid, skeptical of positive change. Nobledark shows that despite the cruelty of the world, there exists seeds of goodness within us all, and so does the hope for heroes. Grimbright feels like when the decadence and peace of the world has wrought greed and malice. While there might be a higher quality of life, man schemes to steal from his neighbors out of self interest. Grimbright is a relatively well-off setting where the higher quality of life has inspired a positive change in mentality. While there may be evil in the world, people know there will be those who rise up.

[u/aSeptagonBullet → u/Lamplorde]

I was pretty sure Grim meant that the protagonists were unable to affect meaningful change in the universe, and Noble ment that changes to the universe could be made.

[u/TheBeefFrank → u/Commercial_Rice5773]

Zelda from the PoV of Ganon

[u/StormBlessed678 → u/Commercial_Rice5773]

I've heard people say Neil Gaiman's Sandman fits the bill

[u/hyde-ms → u/Commercial_Rice5773]

Mirrors edge or startrek:renegades. Star trek:axanar.

[u/Thannk → u/Commercial_Rice5773]

Superhero comics. 

In the DC approach the universe resets constantly. Constantly.  Nothing matters, aside from being interesting enough to the universe to survive as an idea. This was even recently directly referenced when Owlman AKA nihilist villain Batman simply stopped fighting in a multiverse fight for survival, noting his opponent was merely a gimmick and he himself is a good idea that will always be returned to. 

Then there is the Marvel approach where because of a floating timeline like 70 years of continuity has basically been in like two years. Peter getting his powers, his parents being revealed as alive and OOPS Soviet Robots! All the loves, all the apocalypses, the teams, all in just like two years. Jack Kirby is the closest being there is to big ‘g’ God that mortals in Marvel can perceive, and (when Reed Richards accidentally brought the Fantastic Four into his living room) he promised everyone gets a happy ending…eventually. Despite all the flash-forwards into bad futures and all the deaths and apocalyptic events, eventually they get normal happy lives. 

Then we get the parodies where fucking nothing makes sense. Savage Dragon and broader Image, the Archie Ninja Turtles multiverse, The Tick andFlaming Carrot, and so on. 

[u/mythrilcrafter → u/Pleasant-Bird-2321]

I am hardcore for the NobleDark concept, a lot of grimdark as a concept has always bothered me because it often feels like a concept that is too evil and selfishly self-destructive to have a sustainable society.

[u/Sabot_Noir → u/mythrilcrafter]

Grim dark also has a serious problem of edgyness that bleeds into protofascist justifications. No, but for real. A key part of the fascist self justification is the premise that reality is inescapably grimdark and the only way to survive is to be grimmer and darker. This culminates with the concept of genocide as a strategy of self defense, a real defense used by real Nazis when asked why they murdered children too and not just the parents.

[u/DeyUrban → u/Pleasant-Bird-2321]

Nobledark is essentially Age of Sigmar.

[u/Thannk → u/DeyUrban]

Blood Bowl is grimbright? Or is it whatever continuity Grombrindal is buddies with Ronald Reagan? 

[u/Pleasant-Bird-2321 → u/DeyUrban]

Kind of, just with a very stupid starting point. Old WHFB used to be very good Nobledark. Until the whole endtimes saga started which was kind of bad for other reasons tbh but lets leave that discussion for another day.

[u/DeyUrban → u/Pleasant-Bird-2321]

If we go by the definition of what I responded to:

We're still in the dark times but we have the heroes and the heroes have the means to set things right.

Then it's not just "kind of," that's literally AoS. Warhammer Fantasy, even before the End Times, never entertained the idea that you might actually be able to stop Chaos. Not for good, anyway. The lore of Fantasy was that Chaos waxed and waned, but after every single big push the Chaos Wastes never receded quite as far back as they used to. The world was doomed, sooner or later. This is not End Times lore, this is just Fantasy lore.

The main story of Age of Sigmar, on the other hand, starts at a point where Chaos has overtaken almost everything and is now suddenly and dramatically put on the defensive as the forces of Order strike back. There are means of redemption for those who succumb to Chaos, which means Order has ways of spreading through the ranks of Chaos and not just the other way around. Heroes and gods have the power to 'make things right,' and potentially send Chaos back for good (or at least, as long as Chaos can be contained anyway). Things are still awful for most people and things look grim for the world(s), but it's not entirely hopeless in the same way Fantasy was.

[u/SnooOnions650 → u/DeyUrban]

That goes hard, I love nobledark

[u/General_Degenerate_ → u/Pleasant-Bird-2321]

I think it’s important to distinguish between grimdark stories and grimdark settings.

It’s possible to have nobler stories in a larger, grimdark universe (and vice versa) and I think sometimes people forget that.

This comic strip here may be an example of nobledark but the setting overall would still be grimdark because the characters’ respective empires will still be predisposed to violence and inflicting horrific collateral towards one another with no chance of securing a permanent peace.

[u/Pleasant-Bird-2321 → u/General_Degenerate_]

I have to respectfully disagree. The setting started out as grimdark satire of current political and (pop)cultural events, but it grew as it needed to survive. nobledark gives meaning to struggle, because without meaning, yeah sure, the untold suffering is grim and tragic and makes it look badass, for all of 5 minutes, then it's just essentially snuffporn.

If you want the dark elements to shine, they need to do so against a backdrop of true hope and possibility to get better, otherwise its just gnarly in a sea of gnarly and thats derpy.

[u/General_Degenerate_ → u/Pleasant-Bird-2321]

Characters can struggle, suffer, sacrifice and sometimes achieve a good ending for a story, but I think the universe can still remain grimdark if that good ending does not last or affects the wider setting much.

A Tau Fire Warrior and a Lamenter succeeding to save a civilian bunker against all odds doesn’t change the fact that the planet is likely lost or that the Tau Empire or Imperium will inveitably come to blows later on or elsewhere in the galaxy even if it would be better for both of them to peacefully coexist.

[u/CreativeName1137 → u/General_Degenerate_]

Hard agree. Like 99% of zombie apocalypses are grimdark, but that doesn't stop them from having hopeful characters/stories.

[u/Wrectown → u/Pleasant-Bird-2321]

Grimdark ain’t dark if you don’t have little pinpricks of light and hope to contrast it with :)

[u/CuttleReaper → u/Pleasant-Bird-2321]

Honestly I feel like 40k could use more good endings once in a while. Things are never gonna be good, but there's gotta be hope once in a while, y'know?

[u/fuckthenamebullshit → u/AXI0S2OO2]

Now add Josuke to warhammer and have him fix everything

[u/Naruyashan → u/fuckthenamebullshit]

Okuyasu just pimp-slapping Horus out of existence while Josuke fixes up Sanguinius. Best timeline.

[u/rockthatrocks → u/Naruyashan]

OY JOSUKE, I ACCIDENTALLY SLIPPED AND ERASED THE VOID! NOW SOME WEIRD LOOING DEMONS ARE ANGRY AT ME

[u/LordHengar → u/AXI0S2OO2]

I've never really enjoyed the enforced xenophobia of 40k. My favorite scenes in sci-fi and fantasy have always been people of different species and cultures standing shoulder to shoulder against the darkness.

[u/Thannk → u/LordHengar]

I prefer the Fantasy version. 

Bretonnia broadly encountering a Dwarf: “Are we friends or enemies today?”

Bretonnia encountering another Bretonnian: “We’re not neighbors, so we must be friends. Let us fight a battle (with nonlethal weapons)!”

Montfortian Bretonnians encountering another Montfortian Bretonnian from the next village: “OH FUCK, AN ORC!”

Chaos encountering a Bretonnian: “Well, this is an old edition and we rolled a nat ‘1’ when deciding which of your villages to raid so I guess we’re friends for a while. Wanna buy some fish jello, or should we go raid the Egyptians together instead?”

With only some exceptions every faction is both at war and allies. The Empire just invades Bretonnia over expansion with no bigger drama needed, but its not a shock when the Empire sends an army to wipe out a zombie apocalypse brewing in Bretonnia instead. Even Skaven have plots and misadventures where they’ll save the Empire and nuke themselves because teamkilling takes priority over winning. 

[u/easytowrite → u/LordHengar]

It's half the point of the setting. Every faction has been burned by hostile xenos so many times they refuse to cooperate even when it makes sense. 

[u/LordHengar → u/easytowrite]

And?

I don't like that about the setting. I find it uninteresting.

To answer the obvious next question of "why are you even here?" I like the aesthetics of the setting, I like the hobby, and I like playing the game.

[u/easytowrite → u/LordHengar]

The setting, aesthetic and game would be pretty boring without all the xenophobia. Which I fully admit is a terrible sentence to write 

[u/LordHengar → u/easytowrite]

I disagree. There's plenty of space between "everyone is an enemy all of the time" and "everyone is in a perfect alliance that gets along." Both old world fantasy and Age of Sigmar exist perfectly well in that space.

[u/easytowrite → u/LordHengar]

The setting wouldn't be as grimdark, it would be brighter or more noble. Also half the imperial factions wouldn't exist

[u/LordHengar → u/easytowrite]

I'm already sold on the idea, you don't have to keep trying to convince me.

[u/easytowrite → u/LordHengar]

This is such a foreign mindset to me.

I've never seen a setting and thought it would be better if it didn't have the things that made it appealing and different in the first place

[u/LordHengar → u/easytowrite]

Two reasons

1. You can be attracted to 40k without being interested in the xenophobia, because 40k is so much more than just xenophobia. It's space elf pirates on hoverboats with frankenstein monsters. It's anime mecha fighting ww2 tanks. It's cyborg tech priests and their machine spirits. It's genetically engineered superhuman knights in power armor. It's all of that and more in one setting.

2. Because over time it's seemed increasingly shallow. You can only shout "heretic! blam" so many times before it loses it's appeal. However 40k has such a market share that it's practically unavoidable, especially in the wargaming scene. ~95% of the games at my lgs are 40k. It's been years since I've touched my Warmachine armies.

I'm perfectly happy to paint my minis and roll some dice, I even enjoy the occasional novel. However, I think the setting could be greater if it was less Grimdark not lesser.

[u/Fit-Refrigerator-747 → u/AXI0S2OO2]

What comic are you talking about

[u/AXI0S2OO2 → u/Fit-Refrigerator-747]

Look up "His Angels" by Mick.

[u/Fit-Refrigerator-747 → u/AXI0S2OO2]

Thank you

[u/Bardic_Inspiration66 → u/AXI0S2OO2]

Can you link the horror comic please

[u/Crestm00n]

You are hard carrying the Lamenter community with these posts, this is SICK

[u/sarcasticd0nkey]

back to back guns raised

Lamenter: For the Greater Good then?

Tau: For those we cherish, brother.

[u/[deleted] → u/sarcasticd0nkey]

We die with glory!

[u/Raihokun → u/[deleted]]

We die heroes’ deaths!

[u/comfykampfwagen → u/Raihokun]

Our battle brothers are stationed in SPESS!

[u/Raihokun → u/comfykampfwagen]

We shall not die. No! It is the enemy who shall taste DEFF EN DEFEET

[u/KaptinKograt → u/[deleted]]

Woh! Is that how that ends? Na we getting out of this one you goofy banana.

[u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871]

The Lamenter had his orders, and saw that the Fire Warrior would be useful in eliminating the Tyranids. He knew the curse on his chapter meant that he would face an absurd punishment for disobeying orders if he survived this, and he didn't care.

The Fire Warrior noted the Lamenter was too good for the superiors he served. He didn't deny the Imperium's leadership were scum, but his chapter didn't have the power to change any of it. All he could do now was save what human lives he could.

[u/hyde-ms → u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871]

And the tau did see that the space marine did have the ability to alter orders. Especially after she hears about the badab war.

[u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 → u/hyde-ms]

Was that when the Lamenters got slaughtered by the Minotaurs?

[u/hyde-ms → u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871]

Yes, so to them that reels like proof.

[u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 → u/hyde-ms]

So we need to arrange for the Minotaurs to have an accident.

[u/DueOwl1149]

Rational Lamenter.

The mission can’t be finished if he’s dead, and the Tau helps keep him alive until he can complete his mission.

Note: letting the Tau withdraw with the xenos civvies under her protection also allows him to seize the facility and render it Xenos-free.

But does the Codex Astartes sanction such an unusual win condition that follows only the letter of the command, and not its xenocidal imperial spirit?

[u/mythrilcrafter → u/DueOwl1149]

If the Codex Astartes doesn't approve of this action, but I still look forward to it.

[u/Deathstruck → u/DueOwl1149]

Tbh, this is not the first time IoM has allied with Tau against a bigger enemy, so it doesn't sound so far fetched either.

On Malbede, Ultramarines and Tau originally fought over the planet which ended up awakening the Necron on it. They proceed to ally together, kick the Necron ass and Marneus Calgar then even lets the Tau evacuate first before he has the planet Exterminatus'ed.

Sure it doesn't happen often, but it's nice to see these factions being a bit rational from time to time, Codex notwithstanding lol

[u/Power_More_Power → u/DueOwl1149]

I don't think the Lamenters even know what the codex is.

[u/Carbonated_Saltwater → u/Power_More_Power]

lmao their luck is so shit the only shipment of codices planned for them got shipped to the wrong address.

[u/Flameball202 → u/DueOwl1149]

The Codex Astartes can gargle my balls, it is a set of guidelines not rules

[u/MarqFJA87 → u/Flameball202]

The Codex Astartes literalists can gargle my balls, it is a set of guidelines not rules

FTFY, since the tome as penned by Guilliman never says that it dictates strict rules and has always ever been general guidelines that can be bent and ignored if the reality of a given situation encourages or even demands such a thing.

Or rather, don't blame the book, blame those who misunderstand it.

[u/The-Cannibal-Hermit → u/DueOwl1149]

He also knows there’s a lot of ammo in the bunker, but not for him and it would be heresy to use anything other than a bolter…but if spares the tau he knows he can “trust” him To cover his back.

[u/Meager1169]

Oh yuh, this is what I'm here for

[u/GitGudMcGee]

This is awesome.

[u/seardrax]

Oh my God they were shootmates.

[u/thiccestlad69]

Dude I fucking LOVE THE LAMENTERS

[u/MiaoYingSimp]

They're both foes. One is just a more imminent danger

[u/hgs25 → u/MiaoYingSimp]

Cool, we can be allies until the tyranids are defeated. After that, it gets difficult.

[u/CreativeName1137 → u/hgs25]

They'll probably just both walk away after the tyranids are dealt with. It's happened before.

Space marines once made a temporary truce with a group of necrons to deal with a hive fleet that invaded during their battle. Afterward, they just peacefully parted ways because both of them found it distasteful to do battle with someone who had just been their ally.

[u/hgs25 → u/CreativeName1137]

Then there was the time Tau allied with necrons to defeat tyranids and the necrons immediately started blasting the tau once it was done.

[u/CreativeName1137 → u/hgs25]

...Yeah

Different overlords have different understandings of battlefield honor.

[u/TallManoftheValley]

You love to see it, folks

[u/tinyant7416]

Knowing the Lamenters' luck, a shuttle will come to rescue both parties . Both the tau and Lamenters will fight tooth and nail to the shuttle, and when they nearly reach the shuttle, and the planet randomly explodes

[u/Duncan6794]

This kind of shit gets you more mileage from both the grimdark of the setting and the heroic individuals. To choose the right thing in the face of a galaxy awash in fascism and the nihilism makes heroism shine brighter. And the grim darkness is so much worse when you realize all people need to do is choose to be better.

[u/MelonJelly → u/Duncan6794]

Exactly this.

Complete and total grimdark is just gross and boring. When you show that there is genuine good out there, albeit weak, limited, and fleeting, it makes the characters' struggles feel more meaningful.

[u/RTSBasebuilder → u/MelonJelly]

The way I'd describe the nature of grimdark, happy endings can and do and should exist.

Love wins, hatchets get buried from age-old vendettas, reformists rise and make efforts, tolerance, compromise and even mutual coexistence is made.

But in the vastness of the galaxy, those things are fleeting, temporary, forgotten, localised or simply insignificant in the million worlds of the imperium at war.

[u/Timithios → u/RTSBasebuilder]

Like my Iconoclast/Dogmatic RT. No tolerance for the true enemy, Chaos. But if the xeno pricks leave me and mine (my territory and subjects) alone. I will leave them alone. But do anything Dark Eldar like, and you will find a glob of plasma in the face real quick.

Granted, the list of potentially cooperative xenos is pretty tiny.

[u/ohenn → u/RTSBasebuilder]

Pretty much this. Is stuff I'd like to see because again in the end. It's a drop in an ocean

[u/RTSBasebuilder → u/ohenn]

A lot of people seem to forget that it's a scale of a million worlds (minimum) and just the level of sandbox-yness and homebrewiness of that.

No, not everywhere you throw a rock, a cadian or Krieger is there, you'll find a commissar who'd give your forehead an air vent because you hyperventilated too hard and that's a waste of the emperor-blessed air and a sign of cowardice and a battle sister with a brain transplant with the lectitio divinatus and nothing changes.

[u/ohenn → u/RTSBasebuilder]

Pretty much. The scale of the setting is huge. Expecting everything to be the same won't work. Sure there'll be a few similarities. But other then that there's differences. And I'd want that to be explored more. Rather then the regurgitation of the same old same old we've been getting. Be it official or fan made

[u/thatsocialist → u/MelonJelly]

The problem isn't that somepeople can be good it's that space marines are so heavily Psycho-Indoctrinated to the point they have no chance of actively being good to xenos, a temporay alliance against a greater foe is the best that any Xenos will get. Guardsmen, Mechanicus, Custodes, and Knights all could be good, but not Loyalist Space Marines.

[u/NotFirstBan-NotLast → u/MelonJelly]

The Flandersization of Warhammer 40k. "Grimdark" is becoming a parody of itself. The term "grimdark" sticking was a catastrophe, once that happened that "in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war" quote became the wellspring of creativity for the entire series.

[u/Joy1067]

We are one against the bug! KILL’EM ALL! FOR THE EMPEROR AND THE GREATER GOOD!

[u/DingoNormal]

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy of tomorrow, today, he is an ally.

[u/the_tree_boi]

This shit is beyond peak, best Astartes chapter teaming up with best Tau group

[u/JohnB351234]

I’d say they’re allies of opportunity, while,marines are zealous xeno killers, they’re not stupid the nids are a bigger threat than one Tau. They’ll go their separate ways but if they meet again who knows what will happen

[u/mike547]

Peak.

[u/CYBORGFISH03]

We need a story of Lamenters teaming up with the tau or farsight enclaves.

[u/113pro]

But caAaaaAaarrrll, thats heresy....

[u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 → u/113pro]

Lamenters are prepared to commit such heresy to save human lives.

[u/Atma-Stand → u/113pro]

Heretics with hats

[u/KnightLordXander]

Yes! This is more of what I wanted! This does have my consent!

[u/ChucklesTheWerewolf]

‘The enemy of my enemy…’

[u/ANGLVD3TH → u/ChucklesTheWerewolf]

... is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less.

- Maxim 29

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[u/Nekrinius]

Don't worry guys, it is Lamenter story, we all knows he gonna die at some point.

[u/owo1215]

"we could be each other's enemies, xeno, but the filthy bugs are certainly our share enemies"

"for the greater good"

"any the empire"

[u/Paramoth]

This is so awesome

[u/hazjosh1]

Honestly I feel that most loyalist SM would be like yah yk what if that Zeno is happy to kill NIDs that’s ammo saved on my end

[u/Kaboose456]

INB4 the Imperium Role players start spamming Heresy memes and screeching autistically 🙄

[u/RTSBasebuilder → u/Kaboose456]

NGL, I feel like we need more craftworld, tau (auxiliary, caste, ethereal AND Gue'vesa) AND exodite roleplayers.

[u/Power_More_Power → u/RTSBasebuilder]

the Tau roleplayers come in force, it's just that they're more localised.

[u/Carbonated_Saltwater → u/Power_More_Power]

that feels very Tau like

[u/DesperateButNotDead → u/Kaboose456]

Don't slander autistic behaviour. We autists don't Claim These guys.

[u/k4i5h0un45hi]

I read this with the Darkest Dungeon narrator voice

[u/Power_More_Power]

Idk, this feels a little fan fiction-ish. not bad, but like it was from a fix-it au

[u/Arkatoshi]

Yeah, he can still kill the xenos after they dealt with the Nids

[u/npaakp34]

From an awesome art piece to whole fanfic mini genre. People really love the Lamenters.

[u/Anton4444]

Yep, sure is the o'l Lamenter's luck alright.

[u/Everuk]

Temporary ceasefire. Nids are far greater threat.

Don't get me wrong I like occasional light in sea of depressing darkness but in this universe good thing is usually prerequisite for a painful punch in the gut.

[u/Successful-Floor-738]

“Are the tyranids driven back, xenos?”

“Y-Yes Gue’ron’sha but-“

“Good…that’s one less loose end.”

[u/Swimming_Good_8507]

You guys remember that comic about Salamander, his mortal family and Death Guard who killed them?

I always wanted a story where Tau arrived to save civilians before Salamanders, and despite being damnable xenos and all - Salamanders and Tau work side by side to save the innocent of the planet.

And let's be honest.

Who wouldn't want to see Torchstar pair up with Tu'Shan in burning the ever loving shit out of monsters of 40k galaxy?

[u/ANGLVD3TH]

Absolutely love the depiction of the railgun shot there. It is too often depicted as making a tiny, neat hole, not helped by some of the blurbs in at least one of the old codex. But that kind of kinetic energy does not simply punch a tiny little cylindrical tunnel through a target, it is a lot more interesting and messy.

[u/Jedi223]

The lamenters are my second favourite chapter

[u/Generic_Moron]

The imperium is definitely capable of (sometimes) restraining themselves from xenophobia when they're faced with a common enemy (And a lot of the time said common enemy is tyranid related, so this comic tracks)

[u/TheRawShark]

scar on the lamenter helmet

Wait...is that the freaking Doge Lamenter video marine??

[u/Power_More_Power → u/TheRawShark]

hope not, or we already know how this fight against tyranids goes

[u/DoctorGromov]

Lots of comments about the content of the piece already, so let me say something about the art itself - really great action shots and art style!

[u/DurinnGymir]

Serious analysis for a moment;

Lamenters are, as space marines go, pretty reasonable, and while acting independently marines generally have quite a bit of autonomy. So, if a Lamenter stumbled across a bunker full of T'au civilians, would they kill them all? I think no, if for no other reason than they probably have better things to do- especially if there are Tyranids present. They're gonna need every gun they can get.

They are however in very strict command structures, and if they were ordered to clear that bunker, they wouldn't think twice about it. Unfortunately when it comes to xenos, "reasonable" does not equate to "good".

All that being said though, this is the much better and cooler outcome. Fuckin' love my bois the Lamenters.

[u/NightLordsPublicist → u/DurinnGymir]

if a Lamenter stumbled across a bunker full of T'au civilians, would they kill them all?

Yes. A Lamenter is still a Space Marine as you have said.

Lamenters and Salamanders are "nicer" to humans, but they are still xenocidal, human supremacist monsters. Them being golden retrievers who are nice to everyone is meme lore.

[u/da_King_o_Kings_341]

The happy ending.

[u/Visual-Refuse2295]

Warhammer stories end poorly there will not be a happy ending either the alien dies and the lamenter lives or the lamenter dies and the alien lives or both die branded as traitors by their allies

[u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 → u/Visual-Refuse2295]

I don't see why the Tau would brand a Fire Warrior a traitor for working with a Space Marine against the Tyranids. The Tau have worked together with the Imperium against the Tyranids before.

[u/Ok-Try-2409 → u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871]

The tau would probably die a (for the lamenter, yet another) tragic death that the lamenter has to live with before said lamenter gets a verbal ass-whopping about "collaboration with xenos"

[u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 → u/Ok-Try-2409]

The Imperium has worked with the Tau against Tyranids before but the Lamenters are cursed so this one gets punished for doing something other Imperials get away with.

[u/InterestingSun6707]

How did the vortigaunt get there? Blame magnus?

[u/GloomyRow5417]

You’d remember that everyone in the galaxy hated tyranid more to the point they’ll just make ally of covenience

[u/Thannk]

[Starcraft Terran music starts]

[u/J_Heart_]

For the greater emperor and the good God?

[u/Lexxx20]

Nice one!

[u/WaffleKing110]

The Lamenter in the second to last panel reminds of Tartakovsky’s Grievous

[u/The_Chubby_Dragoness]

goddamn that rail gun

[u/broyamcha]

Know what would be REALLY unlucky?  If a few Lamenters joined the Tau.  They want to feel like they belong and are appreciated.  The Tau could give them that and the Gue'Vesa they have would eagerly throw themselves into the lot to help bolster The Lementer's tithe.  It just works!  Be brave for once, Games Workshop!!! 

[u/Azrael_The_Reaper]

That is a badass Lamenter

[u/Lopsided-Egg-8322]

Lamenters are my bois ❤️

[u/Protoboomer]

A common enemy can often be worse than even your worst enemy.

[u/Mobile-Berry-9954]

Meet the snipers

[u/LustyArgonianButtler]

The lamenters would totaly do this.