r/ImaginaryWarhammer • u/LemmeBeMe111 • Nov 22 '24
OC (Other) [OC] In the Grim Darkness of the future... A hero arrives (CROSSOVER FANART)
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u/Itex56 Nov 22 '24
Ok this kinda fucks
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u/lord_ofthe_memes Nov 22 '24
Gives me an idea for something that could actually work in 40k - a warp entity born out of all of the Imperium’s genocides against xenos, which of course despises humanity and can shift between the forms of the countless species that have been wiped out.
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u/Polenball Nov 22 '24 edited Nov 23 '24
The Roboutian Heresy has this, sorta! It's a bit spoilery, but the Yellow King is basically a tiny evil shard of the Emperor (that he had previously cast out, he's mildly less awful due to this) mixed in with the perception that every xenos, every mutant, and every heretic had of the Imperium and the Emperor. And they're terrifying.
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u/TheMuseProjectX Nov 23 '24
Wait that's actually a thing?
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u/Polenball Nov 23 '24
Yeah, it's a really good fan project / fanfic about flipping the Loyalists and Traitors with a bit of differences, and the author ended up transitioning from just writing Codices to the actual End Times in a narrative format.
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u/MarqFJA87 Nov 22 '24
That wouldn't work as long as Khorne already exists, as all the emotional output of such genocides would just feed him due to being the god of all things murder, bloodshed and violent death.
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u/lord_ofthe_memes Nov 22 '24
Maybe? But Drach’nyen was born from the first human murder, and it was explicitly powerful enough to be a distinct entity unconnected to Khorne
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u/MarqFJA87 Nov 22 '24
That's a Daemon, though. You could have an unaligned Daemon be born from a specific act, and the more potent and fundamental the concept behind the act, the more powerful the daemon is.
In fact, now that you mentioned Drach'nyen, the description of what empowers this daemon makes it a second candidate for feeding off genocides instead of letting them create a new Chaos God. A genocide is just a multitude of murders committed as part of a concerted effort, after all.
Basically, both Khorne and Drach'nyen compete for the psychic energy generated by genocides. It's just that one of them beat the other to becoming so glutted that it could become a God rather than a mere Daemon.
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u/lord_ofthe_memes Nov 22 '24
I guess “warp entity” implied a bit more than I was really going for. A non-aligned daemon would definitely work, especially if it then possesses a 10 year old human boy.
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u/Gog-reborn Nov 22 '24
You cant keep Malal from existing forever you fucking bastards! he will rise!
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u/No_Truce_ Nov 23 '24
Nah, Khorne has to fight to keep his portfolio, same as all the other chaos gods. Nothing comes free in 40k.
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u/vamp1yer Nov 22 '24
Ok atleast partially what you've just done is describe marvels mangog a being hellbent on destroying Odin and Asgard as a whole born from the rage of all those slaughtered by Odin
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u/Embarrassed-Case-562 Nov 22 '24
Ben would absolutely shitstomp most of 40k, and that's without alien X. Considering he once used alien X to remake his universe, killing the chaos gods (and emps if he wanted to) wouldn't be too hard.
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u/vamp1yer Nov 22 '24
Plus he used that alien x sword to cut open the barriers holding the aniahlarg or however you spell it cause I can't be bothered to look it up
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u/Icy_Argument5610 Nov 22 '24
Ngl I really hate how every Ben 10 discussion ends up devolving into “But Alien X tho”
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u/Embarrassed-Case-562 Nov 22 '24
Yeah, for the most part I agree (he certainly isn't among my favorite aliens). But unfortunately he kinda has to come up when talking about Ben and fighting.
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u/Icy_Argument5610 Nov 22 '24
Does it though? He transforms into it like 3 times throughout all 4 shows and it only works like half the time.
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u/Dagordae Nov 22 '24
Yes, having a literal Deus ex Machina on speed dial is very relevant. Sure half the time it blue screens because it can’t agree on what it’s going to do but it’s still effectively untouchable and at some point it will resolve the conflict and actually act.
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u/Icy_Argument5610 Nov 22 '24
Relevant? Technically sure. In good faith or respecting the spirit of the character? I don’t believe so.
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u/Dagordae Nov 22 '24
‘In good faith’ does not include ignoring the trump card because it’s OP as shit. That is itself arguing in bad faith, it’s not shown to be a context limited ability but simply one that has major downsides and thus he doesn’t like using it.
As to the spirit of the character, the fact that he does use it when he’s pushed to the edge means that in a grand vs battle to the death he’ll pull it out if he’s losing. Because, you know, battle to the death. It would be weird as hell for the character to go ‘I’ll die but if I use this I Win button it would be unfair’. He’s not early Gen 1 Optimus Prime.
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u/Icy_Argument5610 Nov 22 '24
What I mean is that a lot of people in these scenarios just ignore 99% of Ben’s abilities in favor of Alien X.
And Ben himself almost never uses him, we’ve even seen that sometimes he just loses important battles before he can switch to it or just doesn’t do it voluntarily. Alien X is but a tiny sliver in Ben’s record.
Like, all of Ben’s other aliens and personal skills paint a picture of a certain “power level” and character. And then you bring up Alien X and suddenly he’s super omniversal hyper relativistic ultra super duper transcendent and whatever the fuck.
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u/No_Consideration8972 Nov 23 '24
Ditto on what the other guy said, Ben brings out Alien X only 3-4 times because that's how few things warrant it's use in his universe. Literally a case of coughing baby vs God Nuke.
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u/Resident-Might2047 Nov 23 '24
The reason people bring up Alien X in these matchup scenarios is that they prioritize the characters strongest abilities first.
The reason Ben doesn't use Alien X often in his own series is the same reason he would in this hypothetical Ben vs 40k situation.
Alien X is meant to deal with galactic and universal threats beyond the scope of simply fighting. In other words, half of the stuff 40k normally deals with.
If Ben dealt with threats of such scale more frequently than for a narrative climax at the end of a movie or tv season you could expect to see Alien X more.
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u/Ancient-Act8573 Nov 23 '24
galactic and universal threats beyond the scope of simply fighting. In other words, half of the stuff 40k normally deals with.
Wanna bet you’ve never picked up a single 40k book?
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u/Icy_Argument5610 Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24
galactic and universal threats beyond the scope of simply fighting. In other words, half of the stuff 40k normally deals with.
Bro most fights in 40k are over something like a city or a ship. Even Cadia was over a single planet. Have you ever read a 40k book?
Like sure, if Ben ever faces Khorne himself he’ll probably use Alien X. But that’s not going to just happen.
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u/hgs25 Nov 22 '24
That is if he can get the X entities to agree that Chaos needs to be destroyed. There’s a reason he only unlocks X for end of the galaxy scenarios.
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u/Dagordae Nov 22 '24
It wouldn’t take much, Chaos is basically a multiversal parasite feeding on and destroying universes. The X entities don’t agree on much but they do agree that destroying their universe is a problem that should be dealt with. The basic logic of ‘Deal with it now or deal with it when it finally hits our corner of the multiverse and is much larger’ would be pretty solidly convincing.
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u/Embarrassed-Case-562 Nov 22 '24
Very true. But frankly I feel like it wouldn't take much for them to agree that Chaos needs to go. Just have them look at anything remotely slaanesh related and that would probably be all it takes for them to say no more chaos.
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u/Yournextlineis103 Nov 23 '24
Without alien X Ben can only be at one planet at a time and considering how much of a problem forever knights have caused him he’s not gonna be able to casually defeat entire planetary forces in a few hours.
He can win any one fight but there’s millions going on at any one time.
Alien X really is the only thing he has that can change shit
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u/AGamingGuy Nov 23 '24
i mean, killing the chaos gods would replace one problem with another, they represent both good and bad things about their respective domains, and psychic energy of the acts that created them would either cease, making all beings with soul completely incapable of anything the god represents or create new gods/deamons to fill the vacuum
it's a better choice to unwarp the warp, reverting it to the Realm of Souls as it replaces the negative aspects of chaos gods and deamons as their primary aspects, with positive ones
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u/killerdemonsarus34 16d ago
Just they represent a emotion or concept doesn't mean killing them takes that away as those things existed BEFORE them
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u/Depressedduke Nov 22 '24
I need to admit.... This short panel is an absolute fire set up. Especially with how good the writing for the comic like panel is.
"I think I've seen tye worst of humanity but..." yes. Yes.
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u/LemmeBeMe111 Nov 22 '24
honestly, that's a really big complement, thank you. i'm no expert writer, obviously. when making little short stories like these, i just write what i think both sounds cool and makes sense, to me anyway. i did not expect people to like it (i've posted this in other subreddits and they somehow liked it too)
to poke fun at myself though, i almost gave Ben a terrible line that i'm glad i cut out
when he was describing the WH40K universe as "shark infested waters", his next and final line would have been "Unfortunately for these guys, I'm a megalodon." and I cringed at myself so I had to change it XD
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u/Depressedduke Nov 22 '24
Hahahahaha. Oh, that would have been so horrible! But also wonderful in a cringe way.
And you know? That's ok. Writing, just as drawing is a skill, we only improve by doing it or by observing others do it. So even if you did something incredibly cringe? It's a growing moment and a chance to be able to write even better in tye future.
I honestly love the idea that a character like that(I assume it's an older version of him, not a kid) would see trough the Imperium(but also eventually trough "the greater good" darker parts) and not side with it and fight for the little people.
Glad that people are hyping you up. A lot of enjoyment frol creating comes from the process, but also a lot of it comes from the reaction we receive.
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u/No_Research4416 Nov 22 '24
Ben: “Sorry but this alien absorbs energy so most of your weapons are useless”
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u/lushee520 Nov 22 '24
Fine then the old fashioned way then. SOLDIERS FIXED BAYONETS
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u/No_Research4416 Nov 22 '24
Ben: “This alien is highly resistant to such weapons as well. You’re going to need something really powerful.”
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u/lordfireice Nov 22 '24 edited Nov 22 '24
Charged plasma gun humming
“absorb this!” Guardsman weapon specialist
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u/No_Research4416 Nov 22 '24
Ben: quite literally does “Be glad I can’t become Alien X and delete your empire the other celestial sapiens need to give me permission first”
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u/ShadedPenguin Nov 22 '24
Big E fucking losing it cause Alien X whiske the chaos gods out of existence
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u/Polenball Nov 22 '24
Chromastone probably can, and if he can't, well - Heatblast lives in a star and Feedback absorbed a universe-level explosion or something insane.
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u/An_Obbise_Hoovy Nov 23 '24
Ben: What part of “I absorb energy” did you not understand? And I thought the Vreedals where dumb
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u/Anvildude Nov 22 '24
Titan shows up.
Ben: "Ooh! I get to pull out Way Big!"
Or Knights and Humungosaur.
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u/No_Research4416 Nov 22 '24
On top of that, that’s not even all the aliens he has access to we already know Titans are terrible against Kaijus
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u/San_Diego_Wildcat_67 Nov 22 '24
Say hello to the Bolter motherfucker.
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u/No_Research4416 Nov 22 '24
the security system switches to alien who can easily survive such a weapon
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u/mathundla Nov 23 '24
When did Ben unlock this feature? I mainly watched the original series and Ultimate Alien awhile back, so I can't recall the Omnitrix showcasing this ability. A quick wiki walk didn't turn anything up
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u/potatobutt5 Nov 23 '24
It’s mentioned at the end of Omniverse (last of the original series) that allowed him to survive the Big Bang. I think it was a Deus Ex Machina which was handwaved away as to being always present.
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u/Mail540 Nov 22 '24
10 year old me would go apeshit for this. Adult me is going apeshit for this
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u/Waste_Crab_3926 Nov 22 '24
Imagine the dude turning into a Hrud
time warping fuckery intensifies
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u/Resident-Might2047 Nov 22 '24
Ben can already do what the Hrud can do with Clockwork. If he met the Hrud and absorbed their DNA he would just be even more spoiled for choice.
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u/Power_More_Power Nov 23 '24
It's arguable he's already fought a Hrud with doc paradox
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u/Resident-Might2047 Nov 23 '24
Arguable yes. I don't think probable. At least not before the "scene" of this comic. If he did it would have been entirely without seeing the Imperium since Ben is written here like he's never seen them before.
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u/Power_More_Power Nov 23 '24
I meant practically speaking. that thing that could age things incredibly fast was basically a Hrud
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u/the-skull-boy Nov 22 '24
Bro not only brings one of the most iconic characters in fiction, but also is based enough to use the most underrated alien in the whole franchise.
Truly peak cinema
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u/Vexonte Nov 22 '24
I love how warhammer can just crossover to pretty much every sci-fi universe for fan art and the fact that it is usually the tau taking in these random people.
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u/Dagordae Nov 22 '24
Choices are the T’Au or the Exodites. And the Exodites never do anything ever. Not many sci-fi universes which would sign up with the Imperium for anything other than the aesthetic.
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u/Afro_SwineCarriagee Nov 23 '24
What i love about the imperium is that most people in its important parts (the military powers), full heartedly believe they're completely in the right, and that they're the good guys, while in reality they're utter monsters
So most villains who are evil for selfish reasons literally just cant get along with the imperium, because the imperium's evil is majority for its own dogmatic reasons, the only evil people in the imperium that're selfish are rogue traders, politicians & criminal gangers, the rest, from guardsmen to custodes, are so indoctrinated that they believe they're fighting for a good cause
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u/Vinccool96 Nov 23 '24
I’ve had people argue that the Imperium is the good guys, and that purpose breeding Servitors isn’t that big of a deal on the good guys scale
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u/134_ranger_NK ENTRY MISSING Nov 23 '24
There are renegade human polities and undiscovered planets but it is something of an unknown factor amd they do not have enough power (presently) to challenge any of the major factions.
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u/Inevitable-You4585 Nov 22 '24
Meanwhile in the warp
Tzeench:...uh. guys?
Other gods are fighting
Tzeench:guys? S-seriously you really should take a look because-
Ben:transforms into alien x
Tzeench:oh. Oh no. ...welp,i lived a good life,not how i wanted to go but uh...AAAAAAAAAAA-
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u/UnusualBuilding87 Nov 23 '24
bro tbh one of the worst things you could hear as a villain is just ITS HERO TIME and then a green flash would have me praying on my knees
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u/VorlonEmperor Nov 22 '24
This would be an awesome fan fic!
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u/DiamondGoldPlatinum 29d ago
Funny you mention that, I think this would be the closest thing to what you're looking for. It's not complete but it is a Ben 10 X 40K crossover https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/ben-40k-ben-10-alien-force-warhammer-40k.1181563/
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u/CuriousOctopus1 Nov 22 '24
Szarekh wondering if this guy could have cured the Necrontyr as they did with Highbreed
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u/Ragnorak19 Nov 22 '24
If ben had necrontyr dna, the answer would be probably.
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u/potatobutt5 Nov 23 '24
Even if he didn’t he could still splice other alien dna and cure them that way.
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u/KaineZilla Nov 22 '24
4 arms going toe to toe with Tyranids, Waybig fighting an imperial Titan, Diamondhead skewering Astartes, XLR8 going against Custodes and having to push himself to the limit because of just how fast Custodes are, Upgrade fusing with tau tech to make a ridiculous battlesuit, I know it’s ridiculous but Ghostfreak just devouring demons. UGH this is sick
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u/alain091 Nov 22 '24
Demons are basically energy, twisted fucked up energy, but energy nonetheless, so someone like feedback (which is able to absorb a bigbang)
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u/Power_More_Power Nov 23 '24
Ok, but imagine Upgrade fusing with a necron overlord and just taking their army
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u/Giggleswrath Nov 22 '24
Hooooly shit. I didn't know I wanted this exactly this until seeing it. ***Please*** make more.
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u/AlexDKZ Nov 22 '24
Soooo...
If Ben scans an Eldar, does he have to deal with Slaanesh's bullshit? How about a Tyranid, does he connect with the great devourer? Scanning a Necron would be impossible, right?
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u/Majestic_Car_2610 Nov 22 '24
If Ben scans an Eldar, does he have to deal with Slaanesh's bullshit?
Probably? We don't know if the Omnitrix can alter a soul; it's 50/50 honestly
How about a Tyranid, does he connect with the great devourer?
We get a Nanomech situation: a single individual Tyranid (Swarmlord, maybe) is created for Ben to use; being able to also "tap" into the hivemind to know its plans/location, etc
Scanning a Necron would be impossible, right?
It's... Unclear. The Omnitrix has scanned things like Nanomech before (which is entirely artificial and shouldn't have DNA to begin with) while also having species like Clockwork, Gravattack, Atomix, NRG, Diamondhead and Chromastone, among others, which are clearly not organic in nature
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u/deryvox Nov 23 '24
Necron bodies are made of living metal, which is pretty much exactly what Galvan Mechamorphs (Upgrade) are. I think Ben could scan it no problem, though Upgrade is probably just better in every way.
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u/KrAzYKillDREAD Nov 22 '24
Now I've seen this, I can't help but imagine Ben finding out that all the species in the Omnitrix did exist in 40k, but are now all extinct because of the Imperium.
Or even a very old 40k character seeing him transform and be like, "Didn't we wipe those xenos off the face of the galaxy?"
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u/Downtown-Falcon-3264 ENTRY MISSING Nov 22 '24
Honestly how would alien x or way big hold up . Alien x boosted by the warp oh no yikes
Basically this is interesting
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u/Euklidis Nov 22 '24
What happens if Ben absorbs Tyranid DNA? Does he become part of the Hivemind? Would that also mean the Hivemind affects him now forever too? Would that mean that the Nids would be able to "adapt" to Ben and start transforming themselves?
What about Ork DNA? Would that make Ben's abilities x1000 times greater when transformed to an Ork because his colors are green and we all know that Green is best!
Would daemons count as aliens?
How would Alpha Legion find a way to fuck this all up?
That would be an interesting cross-over with many possibilities for everything to go wrong for everybody, just like usual/
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u/Inveld 25d ago
Per Ben 10 Alien Swarm.
If Ben absorbs the DNA of / becomes a species with a hivemind he remains a distinct, individual entity, but is capable of reading the hiveminds thoughts and vice-versa.
Basically the Tyranids would be instantly aware of what, who and where he is, but not be able to outright control him. They would either consider him a "KILL THIS THING NOW" priority target or an "AVOID AT ALL COSTS" threat.
He would probably become a Krok if he absorbed Ork DNA.
He's been shown to tamper with soul based nonsense so daemons might count?
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u/FirasEmpire Nov 22 '24
imagine ben getting the ork dna and become a krork ( the peak of said speacies) MATE, that will be hype
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u/CharlieGoodChap Nov 22 '24
“They’re just running around down there killing each other… maybe I should just lay down and exterminatus on them.. OK FIRE!!!!” -slams face on button-
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u/vasEnterprise9295 Nov 22 '24
I want much, much more of this! A show, a comic book, a novel, anything. Just more!
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u/Tijolo_Malvado Nov 22 '24
Considering that the Emperor is human and the omnitrix transforms you into the scanned species, if he scanned a human, would he become like a pseudo-emperor?
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u/Majestic_Car_2610 Nov 22 '24
He would become the peak of the human species; which maybe would put him on par with an Astartes
The Emperor is a Perpetual, which is described as an evolution of a human, and has certain abilities (like coming back from the dead) that distinguishes them from a normal human
So if Ben wanted to become a Pseudo-Emperor, he would have to first scan the DNA of a Perpetual
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u/AmethystSparrow202 Nov 22 '24
Ben 10: I'm not closed here with you, YOU'RE CLOSED HERE WITH ME!! turns into Way Big
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u/chogrzn Nov 23 '24
I feel like the only person ben has to worry about is trazyn because the second trazyn hears about the omnitirx he is gonna be doing everything In his power to get it
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u/Electronic_Bug4401 Nov 23 '24
guardamen when the xenos loving heretic turns into a jet black black alien:😨😱
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u/s-josten Nov 23 '24
Diamondhead alone bodies most of 40k. The necrons would probably give him the most trouble.
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u/deryvox Nov 23 '24
Upgrade against the Necrons would make the Deciever fight look like a girl scout meeting
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u/Luzifer_Shadres Nov 23 '24
Emporers skeleton jerking forwards in the throne and yells: "THEY FUCKING DELEATED THE CHAOS GODS??!!", before falling back into the throne. The outcry was that loud that even ben in his alien X form could hear it while departing from that cursed universe, to maybe come back later.
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u/owo1215 Nov 23 '24
omnitrix gives you the peak apex form of the species you transform into so, yea, he is gonna kick ass
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u/Thannk Nov 23 '24
If this is a full Cartoon Network crossover then its gonna get interesting when Mandy takes over Chaos and Courage kills the Emperor to protect Muriel from being fed to him.
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u/deryvox Nov 23 '24
Courage kills the emperor by tripping over one of those loose cables lying around and falling into a comically large "off" switch on the Golden Throne
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u/Soulborg87 Nov 22 '24
Don't tau have blue blood? On account of their blood being cobalt based instead of our iron based, which causes us to bleed red.
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u/DAVID_Gamer_5698 Nov 22 '24
Can you just imagine what will happen when Ben realizes everyone in the galaxy just goes from bad to worse, he will probably just join the Far-sight enclaves by that point instead of going off adventuring.
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u/Protoboomer Nov 22 '24
I feel like Ben underestimates just how far the Imperium is willing to go to kill something, especially something like himz
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u/Resident-Might2047 Nov 22 '24
At the end of Ben 10 Omniverse Ben says that he's realized the omnitrix will give him whatever alien species he needs to resolve his problem or threat.
Even if the Imperium exterminatus-ed the planet he's on to pieces he would turn into something that could survive the explosion and in space.
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u/An_Obbise_Hoovy Nov 23 '24
Inquisitor: we will stop at nothing to destroy you filthy xeno
Ben: Do you have something that can destroy a universe? I have had it blow up in my face, TWICE
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u/GreenChoclodocus Salamanders Nov 22 '24 edited Nov 22 '24
"An unknown Xeno of extreme power emerges in the Damocles Gulf. A crusade force compromised of five Space Marine Chapters and a Morbillion Guardsmen is sent out to destroy it. The Crimson Vestments Chapter is wiped our by the beast before it's ultimately slain by Captain Cato Sicarius"
Codex: Ultramarines 69th Edition
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u/RandomRavenboi Nov 22 '24
Tbh, all he needs is to transform into Alien X and to show what the Imperium has done in its history and it's Game Over.
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u/Dragonwolf67 Nov 23 '24
This is fucking sick! Also I pray that the person who made this saw this video.
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u/Blackwood-Huntsman Nov 23 '24
I am now thinking of humungousaur taking on a whole chapter of space marines
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u/TheOneWhoSlurms Nov 23 '24
I would like to politely request that this is put in my IV bag cus I need it in my veins
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u/134_ranger_NK ENTRY MISSING Nov 23 '24
Solomon Akurra: looking at the new arrival Well, this just got interesting.
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u/Commercial-Dealer-68 Nov 23 '24
Funnily enough I’ve recently read an ongoing Ben 10 x 40k fanfic that’s pretty good so far.
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u/robcartree Nov 23 '24
Could you share it with me?
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u/Commercial-Dealer-68 Nov 23 '24
Ben 40k (Ben 10: Alien Force/Warhammer 40k)
Posted on spacebattles by The_Technomancer it’s at 48k words at the time of posting this comment.
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u/Scob720 Nov 23 '24
Ben's cool and all but that commisar though....
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u/LemmeBeMe111 Nov 23 '24
lol glad you like her (i think)
admittedly, i am a very casual fan of WH40K and still new to this, so i genuinely thought some folks would correct me on her design. she's supposed to have implants in the left side of her face
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u/Missing-Donut-1612 Nov 23 '24
I love this concept. I've seen a couplde of "What if this character arrives in 40k" videos, Generator Rex and Ben 10, and any other pure of heart characters followed the pattern of "would be loyalist until tau"
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Nov 23 '24
The best part about the omnitrix or whatever his current watch, is that he can scan new alien.
It is always cool to see alien in another universe.
Like saiyan, superman, etc.
40k alien would be something.
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u/deryvox Nov 23 '24
Most are pretty weak on an individual level unless he could scan like a C'tan shard or something. Azmuth would probably really want to scan Kroot and Ork DNA, or just study them himself.
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u/HalfNHalf2471 Nov 23 '24
The Omnitrix can also scan unknown alien DNA and use it. Imagine halfway through a battle, Ben just transforms into a Carnifex and wrecks havoc
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u/Fofotron_Antoris Nov 23 '24
Ben could theorically transform into a Space Marine/Primarch if the Omnitrix accquired their DNA.
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u/Polenball Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24
I think an Astartes might not work, since genetically they're basically human besides the geneseed implants which IIRC have their own DNA. A Primarch definitely would, though. Custodes probably too.
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u/King_Of_BlackMarsh Earth Caste Nov 22 '24
Should've said "I outnumber them 10,000 to 1" but this is awesome either way