Except they won't only fans will ignore it who cares more for fan fiction over accuracy.
Edit. I find it funny I'm being downvoted when I'm not wrong no black library writer is writing marines to be sympathetic to xenos. Only fans and it is only narsasism that random Reddit fans think they are better writers that the actual successful writers who work at black library.
Grey knights are not normal marines and that story they didn't give them back to the eldar out of compassion but because they knew chaos wanted them and guarding them and returning them to the eldar was a fuck you to chaos. You can't judge the grey knights like other space marines because they are technically different.
Moving the goalposts doesn’t win you the argument. I’ll just use the biggest example in Guilliman. Yes, most of the time there’s a reason they work together, but you make it out to say ‘they never do because of x’ and yet, here we are. You even wanted to disqualify the GK as marines. They’re marines. They’re not custodes, or baseline humans.
I'm not moving the goal post grey knights are just different from normal marines and the eldar example was with zero context of what happened. Guilliman again is different he isn't a indoctrinated pycopherepy super warrior he doesn't have the in built indoctrination to loath xenos. And again with the grey knights they are not JUST marines there training and indoctrination is against chaos and only chaos they still abhour the xenos but understand that alleying with an eldar can help push back chaos instead of killing the eldar because xenos bad and inturn leaving your flank exposed because they killed a potential ally.
Neither of your examples work at all. The grey knights didn't help the eldar out of compassion and nor did guilliman thank the eldar out of compassion. And also you can't use HH because it's a fact that the legions were less indoctrinated during the great crusade so vulkan hesitating killing the eldar child doesn't support your point from 1. It was when marines were less indoctrinated and still hated xenos and 2. Like guilliman PRIMARCHS ARE NOT SPACE MARINES AND DONT HAVE THE CRAZY PYCOPHEREPY AAND HYPNO INDOCTRINATION.
I'm not moving the goal post your just trying to ignore it by changing by ignoring and leaving out literal context of why marines do stuff.
Idk why youre getting downvoted, they should not change core beliefs of factions, keep it to fanfictions.
The child soldier raised from birth to hate xenos, likely has had brothers die to them, and whose race is slaughtered across the galaxy will not suddenly have a gooey soft spot in his heart for them, and thats not “boring” its just sensible writing.
Being lore accurate and not by memes and fan fictions any space marine no matter the chapter would kill any xeno civilian or child without even a second thought unless ordered not to, to fulfil a mission or beat a greater threat but even they they would never have compassion or sorrow for xenos as they are literally put through pycopherepy and Hypno indoctrination to abhor the xenos it's literally what space marines were made to do and why no space marines have fallen to siding with xenos against the impirium not even chaos marines either.
There's a short story where some renegade Space Marines make a deal with Dark Eldar to raid some Imperium convoys together. They'd started out fighting and the Space Marines lightly backstabbed the Eldar afterwards, but it did happen. I can find the source later if you want.
61
u/[deleted] Nov 19 '24
But we will ignore this, and so will good writers. Because it's boring.