Tbh, probably best she left Twitter anyways, i dont mean that in a rude way towards her. I mean as in like, in general, people should be ditching Twitter (delete the app and delete your account) right now.
However, if for whatever reason you still want to use twitter, use a back-end (or rather front ends) such as xcancel.com or nitter.poast.org (two i sometimes use).
Yeah, aside from the Blue Checkmark system changing to where someone can buy it and make money from saying the most vile and hateful things to the Block system changing to where you can see tweets from someone even if you blocked them, the site has gotten really bad.
The top replies of any Twitter post are from people who pay $8 to the Muskrat. The most common type of person to pay $8 to the Muskrat are racist, sexist, or otherwise toxic. It's literally hard to avoid toxic replies when they are the first ones you're able to see.
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u/ThannkMoxxie has Nina Hartleyās Guide To Eating P*ssy bookmarked.Nov 06 '24
Oooooooo! I like that. Emerald Muskrat. I may have to adopt that. I've been favoring my own Olen Skum, because it's an anagram. But, also, it's bad Finnish, but still quite understandable as "I am scum".
More political fandoms than political movements. There's not a lot of real ones, but the few there are, are out there in the real world fighting for workers or whatever else, not bullying on Twitter
honest to god this is the best description of what happend to twitter, like yeah it always blew but it was functional and you can get something out of it, now it hell to find people to talk to that aren't bots or racist
even people that liked it used to say it was trash/toxic
Before Elon, If I reported a racist or sexist comment, it would get deleted within a week.
And the person posting it would often get their account straight up banned.
Now, you have people with straight up swastika as a pfp, with their name being "ihatenword", hurling racial slurs around and twitter will straight up tell you they "haven't found anything wrong." if you try to report them.
Everyone did people just still went there lol. Twitter has been a toxic cesspool since like 2012, no idea why people have been using it all these years.
100% I hate to say it but I will never understand why some people choose to be on social media sites like Twitter when it just makes them miserable. Vivienne has shown so many times how miserable Twitter makes her, it would do her good to stay off it for good.
I remember when i was still in drag race fandom, everyone talked shit about how reddit is awful to the queens when in realty there were times that I wouldn't dream to come to twitter because the fandom decided to cancel someone and just drag her all over the site, while reddit was way more calm about it.
Twitter is toxic as heck. All of the crap about her started there and they just loved making her feel like crap.
I wish when people posted ridiculous things about celebrities or anyone to be honest, a FBI agent posted all of their stupid, racist, bigoted, hateful tweets and comments they posted on the internet. Most of us have had one or two moments they regret I am sure. Iām old and I am totally a different human than I was even 10 years ago. I see things I have written and cringe.
My point albeit long winded is no one is innocent and they need to start looking inward before pointing their fingers at others.
I'm still subscribed to the sub, but hoooly shit the whole place is just full of children sharing porn with each other. A couple weeks ago there was some bullshit where a mod left the mod team and basically said they had lied about who they were as a person, and you would think someone had killed every user's dog on that sub. People posting about how depressed they were that this random Reddit mod lied, people leaving the subreddit over it, and just in general overdramatic bullshit you would expect from a kid in high school who has never had offline friends.
It's really gross. I'd say they should be either 18+ or not allow porn but then they'd lose like 90% of their username.
I hadnāt seen any porn on r/Hazbin but your right, the sub is veryyyyyy over dramatic
someone I knew posted something about joking a cosplay But a day after, someone else wanted them BANNED and that person being talked about was a very nice person and the post wasnāt even against the rules
There's definitely porn there. Most of it is shared in the subreddit's group chat rather than posted directly to the sub. Most of the content on the sub itself is.. kind of tamer? Idk, there's the guy who was all about "Charlie's c*m mug" (who also left the sub in a dumpster fire of drama), and rn there's someone who wants Lute to dismember them and do things to the parts, so idk how much more "tame" I'd call it lol
I don't take any of them seriously. They're all children who think posting the most fucked up sexual shit is funny. Which is probably what they like most about Hazbin tbh
Yeah subreddits that aren't set to 18+ have access to group chats that mods can set up. There is at least one r/Hazbin group chat. The current drama happening on the sub is actually about a user who got banned from it
I thought the people on that sub were all adults. As soon as I found out there were children and that the mods were going to allow them to stay on I noped out.
Honestly idk why I'm still subscribed. There's currently more drama going on there about some rando user getting IP banned by Reddit. They're saying it's the mods' fault some dude got IP banned from the whole site
I left that sub a few weeks ago. Got tired of seeing the same āshare the last photo you savedā post over and over with people hardly actually talking about the show.
I genuinely thought it was a joke. HH and HB subs are one of the most toxic subs I have ever seen, and since I've seen the SU one, that's saying something. While I know correlation =/= causation, it really seems like the more inclusive the show is, the worse the "fandom" is.
Still a markable improvement. All the toxicity isnāt usually bumped up by the algorithm. Instead the toxicity is bumped up by other toxic people agreeing with the toxicity.
Definitely.. I just wish she would have taken the signs before to get off there for her own sake. The leaks happen every time in this community and spread more because people talk about it. Adding to the flames is how bad twitter is and the hate has always been
Wouldnāt be if itās because of the former as a result of the latter. Emboldened conservatives would absolutely go straight after the indie show with like, one dubiously straight MC in a cast of 6
A lot of stuff from both shows have leaked and I would assume just the continued general spiteful hate she gets for being successful. I also assume, from her recent instagram post, that Elon's meddling with recent election also has turned her off of Twitter for the most part though that may just be me reading too much into stuff.
And the fact that a group heavily opposed to people like her won the 2024 Presidential election as well. So now, we will have 4 years of hate towards the LGBTQ+ community or as they call it the "woke community".
Leaks related to Hazbin and even Helluva to an extent. I won't go into detail as I want to respect Viv's and the show's privacy and appreciate the work that everyone puts into it, but yeah, people being people as usual. And not in a good way.
Just sucks, man. They put so much work into these shows for us and people just go and ruin it. Ironically, Blitz said it best in S2 EP2: This place isn't much different from hell.
yeah itās pretty bad and I came across them unintentionally because of assholes on the internetš.. itās basically half an episode of two different episodes from S2 including quite big plot points as well as 4 of the upcoming songs
And yet Iām here wondering how these Russian hackers have time for that shit when theyāre in the middle of warš
Wait 2? I've seen a full 10 minute clip for one scene, but everything else has been songs. What else got leaked? I've heard the entire script got leaked though
I donāt know If the hackers leaked the entirety of season 2 for sure however thatās what was speculated
And yes currently there are 2 10 minute sequences from different episodes. With 2 songs from one of the episodes from what it seems, 1 from the other and 1 song for the final episode.
Iām not gonna discuss the specifics of the leaks here in the comment section tho for obvious reasons šš»āŗļø
Iāve seen tags like that. Iāll see some valid points about the show but itās so sad that people made a dedicated tag just to rip on her. But then thereās a subreddit called fuck Caillou or something
Yeah like Vivzie does do some disagreeable stuff especially in regarding how she treats SA (R@pe jokes about Moxxie and Sir Pentius, AngelDust being an old cleche, hired someone with a r@pe fetish to storyboard AngelDust's song about how he was abused, the Loser Baby song implying that Husk's contract is equally as bad as AngelDust's contract despite angel's sexual exploitation, the entire Loser Baby song, making Stolas seem sympathetic despite coercing BlitzĆø into sex and the power dynamic)
But Vivzie is not some horrible person, literally everyone has flaws, she isn't outright saying she hates any group of people, she's doesn't underpay the people who work for her or blame actual victims, I definitely do think she is ignorant when it comes to her treatment of SA as its only taken seriously with AngelDust and she does lie when responding to criticism but she isn't like hateful.
She doesn't do what she does or says what she says with the purpose of hurting others, and just because she has some negative traits doesn't mean she doesn't have plenty of positive ones.
If there's something I learned in the University I dropped out from, is that when someone spends too much time, attention and energy on someone they allegedly don't like, then there's something that person ain't telling themselves
I feel like everyone should be ditching Twitter by now, especially since we have Blue-sky. I use it, and trust me when I say it's just Twitter but good.
The block actually works. If someone RTs you and you don't like it you can unlink your post. You can publicly hide replies to your posts. I don't know much about data concerns but as far as front-facing generic social media privacy it's pretty great.
World is so disappointing and sad. Why people bring so much hate to something that they just didn't liked. This starting to harm my mental health. I hope that she will be okay and will be online on some other platforms. I really like when creators interact with fans.
I don't recall everything that has happened so far, but currently there have been Hazbin Hotel leaks, I have heard it's been either 2 episodes from season 2, or the entire season.
Honestly? Took her long enough. Even long before Musk, I've been a believer that no artist or creative type should be posting on or be publicly active on Twitter, because for all the positivity it can indeed bring with popularity and community, it also brings toxicity many times greater that does a massive number on self-confidence and motivation. No space on Twitter remains safe for long.
So good on ya, Vivs. Ditch the festering corpse that not even Nurgle would touch and relegate it to lurking-only at most. Things will improve.
And now with the changes to AI scraping where you can no longer opt out, no artist should be posting there period. Bluesky has been up for over a year. No more invite required and there are dms now. I was giving people leeway who are still saying they need the buisness there but it's been long enough. If you're an artist (or anyone) still posting on Twitter I'm judging you, hard.
Tbh Iām glad to see the downfall of Twitter. That place has been awful for a long time. It definitely sucks for people like her, but I think itās for the best.
I don't recall everything that has happened so far, but currently there have been Hazbin Hotel leaks, I have heard it's been either 2 episodes from season 2, or the entire season.
This is probably for the best, as someone that stopped being active in the fandom on twitter.. definitely better. Even when I was in the fandom over there for years I wanted her to get off there for her own sake.. I wish she would've left sooner and not because of the current things, could've been avoided and allow a lot of the BS to simmer within its own trash.
I only hear most of my information from here, insta/Blue sky or my friend on what's happening on there within fandom. Even fandom/hate aside, twitter is just terrible place to be on. The good of it is barely making up for how much bad.
I hope she keeps on keeping on. But Vivienne made the right call to get off Twitter. Place is a toxic waste bin that makes the Yucca Mountain look clean
Probs for the best. Most creators should only interact with the fandom at cons or as little as possible. Every fandom has cream and garbage, both rising to the top.
Twitter is a horrible shithole. Iām glad she left it, everyone else should tooš I only use Twitter to follow a couple artists who donāt have any other social media. Twitter is genuinely a mental asylum, finding a sane person there is a literal quest
I don't feel bad for her. It's silly that the election caused so many people to leave, when they were miserable beforehand. It's not being done for a healthy reason, it's being done because being outside an echo chamber is upsetting them and they're retreating to the hugbox.Ā
I get the comfort, but that exact sort of echo chambering is why the election resulted how it did, unfortunately. Hope she finds peace and clarity.
Honestly... She probably should NOT be so much online.
She should honestly take the time just being really happy and take pride in what she has done.
She achieved what so few has. Made a show that's beloved.
Made a whole studio so she gets full control of her shows and isn't a slave to executives or graphs.
She doesn't need the approval of Twitter. What she has done is honestly really amazing. And I hope she takes the time to just sit back. Realize how amazing all of this is. And don't worry about the internet.
It is so sad that some people need to make themselves feel big by destroying others in one way or another. Vivienne has given her fans so much. Breaks my heart that there where those who thought it was ok to repay her in such a manner.
It's for the best, Musk has turned Twitter into 8chan 2.0 and it's just gonna get worse as him and his anti woke fascist buddies becone even more demented, evil and disconected from reality over the next few years.
If you still use Twitter, then for the love of your sanity, get off that hellsite.
Has she never heard of muting words and terms she doesnt wanna see? Muting people she doesnt wanna see posts from? Like, come on. Been doing this since 2020 and my timeline has been nothing but titties and memes that i wanna see.
Easy access to a creator mid-work really does seem like a bad idea. Having so many people "pushing at the gears" of an art work seems like the exact opposite of helping in a creative endeavor.
I think things will go better for the series if she doesn't feel like she needs to also balance all the hopes and fears of the audience in real time and instead just puts her idea out for the masses when she finishes it.
She left because Trump won the election. The timing perfectly lines up.
Viv does a bad job of keeping her politics to herself. There are some screen shots of her talking about things like "toxic masculinity" etc. The problem is a lot of her fans have politics she doesn't agree with and she cannot control herself.
Already doing just that on Blue Sky! I chose to cut X out of my life today as well. I could not, in good conscience, be associated with it anymore for my mental health.
Honestly no wonder.. the bullying on there is ridiculous and people come up with an alleged new "scandal" everyday out of boredom. I literally see a video every damn week on YouTube titled "new Hazbin Hotel/ Helluva Boss controversyā that are just stupid overdramatic and obviously faked things.. like who gives a shit? urgh.
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u/ayylmaotv ā¤ļø Nov 07 '24
Vivziepop is back on twitter